Yeah i'm a little puzzled as well after watching Joker review of the R7-1700 vs i7-7700k. Still waiting for more review of the 1700s and then left R5-1600x/1600 before i decide i need an upgrade or not.

Agreed.. I think better wait for Ryzen R5.. Maybe by then those minor problems should be fixed.
There are also reports of new drivers for Ryzen coming up later on as well as BIOS updates.

This should hopefully mean that software devs can stop slacking off and begin optimizing their software for multithreading

As a guy that works with video transcoding, virtual machines and games... this thing is perfect

Good for you then...

But i found something from LegitReviews



AMD never learnt from past.
Really hope that performance improved later on

Interestingly someone on reddit mentioned this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/...egation_thread/

AMD has already told all of us reviewers of this matter.

Our systems are all set to High Performance to ensure review goes well.

With the Ryzen around I got my video work done so much faster. I made a few videos with ~30 minutes length, having even enough power to re-render which I usually won't.

Depends on games, you see my benchmarks.





As you can see, some are on par while in certain cases it's far behind.

I saw other review hitman is on par. Anyway, currently. ryzen got gaming threading problem.

gaming, ryzen should behind of 7700k coz, ryzen wont oc than 4.1 and seems bottleneck of gpu.
As u can see,sameofresult, 7700k still better job done than 6900k。
As amd promote, it's not compare single core performance with 7700k.

As result,
ryzen 7 is competiotion for 6800k ++ , performance of highest 4.0ghz may slower bit than oced 4.3++ 6900k etc, but still done well job in workload and decent gaming under lower tdp.



This post has been edited by eDwanD: Mar 3 2017, 12:52 AM

For whats worth, if someone chooses to spend more than RM 1.5k on the CPU alone then goes on to play at resolutions below 1440p seems kinda stupid.

Ryzen results seem pretty clear to me. You want 80% performance of a i7 6900K at less than half the price, you go for any of the Ryzen 7 chips. Provided you are clever enough to game with a decent 1440p/4K resolution.

You want to game at 1080p, do the world a favour and get the i7 7600K. RM 1.5k for a i7 7700K that seems only good for gaming is not worth it over the much cheaper and similarly capable in gaming i5.

i7 7700K has no place on the planet for 4k gaming as you could just get the cheapest R7 1700 and park the bottleneck on the GPU.

And for those hoping that the 6 core and 4 core R5 will be better at gaming than the R7, you will be disappointing yourself. The six core is basically a less capable 8-core die, which means 2 cores are disabled but the performance would be roughly similar in single threaded applications and gaming. The four core would probably in the same boat as well, or it might be a different die all-together-I'm not sure.

A lot of chatter that the SMT has issues for gaming, remains to be seen if that is really the case. If it was, what was AMD doing all this while not sorting that issue out, is a mystery.

Wanna game at 1080p, get the i5 7600K, OC the shit out of it.
For everything else, anything above an OC'ed R7 1700 is really not worth it.

my 2 sen

This post has been edited by area61: Mar 3 2017, 01:11 AM

Hope to see overclocking review of R7-1700 using B350 mainboard, might be a good "budget" setup for those that want a mixe of gaming and productivity performance.

But in reality the higher resolution you go the less processor power you need to not getting CPU bottleneck in games because of lower frame rates unless the card you using need really need beefy processor to feed it like Titan XP Sli.

After looking at many Ryzen reviews tonight i finally see the i5 albeit getting high average FPS, the minimum FPS is much lower.

If i can get similar IPC like the R7 but with much lower price for gaming, that's already a win imo and i'm talking about the 6 cores.

haha not bad

I guess either Intel 'influence' the result ( famous Intel trick ) or reviewer OCed their Ryzen 7.

I cant believe took few years, blame both Intel ( for not moving forward as no competition ) and AMD ( for not provide enough competition ).

That is what I'm more interested at, thank you

Same, I set my mind on 1700 already since I will overclock it no matter what ( now or later )
I do want a good B370 mobo, since it can overclock and I dont use multi-GPU.

Subjected to GPU also.

Some people don't need more than a GTX 1060 to game but wants to produce content fast, then it's justified to have spend more than RM 1.5k on processor and less on GPU and monitor.

Too many review/benchmark to read ( wait weekend ), so instead I read this interesting article. Compared a stock Ryzen 1700 DDR4 system against old i5 3570K ( OCed 4.2GHz ) DDR3, and Ryzen lost.
However based on comment/feedback from user, the gap close as display resolution get higher, and if the game are DX12 and Vulkan optimized. AMD also working with developers to optimize their games.

Sad result in The Division


Surge above in DX12 in AotS


http://www.pcworld.com/article/3176100/com...der.html?page=2

AMD seems to suggest that its not optimized for gaming yet(based on their statement to pcper) and all this while games have been optimized by default for intel as it has been the performance leader for the past decade. I'll reserve my judgement when the entire Ryzen product stack is out. If till then they still have performance issues in gaming, then gamers will have to default to intel for gaming.

Gamers Nexus got it right. R7s are i7 in Productivity at half the price and a slightly overpriced i5 in Gaming. Well 1/2 x 2 is really 1.

Buyers really need to check their need before splurging their money and have to stop being lazy and start reading more than one review..