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eDwanD
post Mar 3 2017, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Mar 3 2017, 02:48 PM)
I've been following Ryzen for a month now. Since Ryzen r7 benchmark is out, am i safe to assume that even if i continue to wait for their Ryzen r5 1400x the performance is same as Kabylake i5 7500? Purely just for gaming. rclxub.gif
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unfortunately, no more r5 1400x, but r5 1600x and r5 1500x XD with higher clock.

R5 1600x (6C/12T) BC 3.6/TC 4.0
R5 1600x (6C/12T) BC 3.5/TC 3.7

amd believe will outperform i5 7600k by 64%


Good brief about Ryzen:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3173372/com...en-7-chips.html
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Mar 3 2017, 05:06 PM)
Here are the videos I took at the brief by AMD staff.




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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Mar 3 2017, 03:23 PM)
That's heavily overclocked old processor.
If you look at games with modern standard ( DX12, vulkan ), Ryzen can fight on par Intel. So it really depends on game developers now to optimize.
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@4.2Ghz his i5-3570k is not heavily overclocked imo. tongue.gif
To be fair, FarCry primal is heavily single threaded but i expect better result with The Division.

One thing i noticed is that he used RX-480 in his test while most other reviewer used Nvidia cards, is it AMD infamous driver overhead/improper multi-threaded causing such abysmal performance?

goldfries i saw your post last week at FB that u use RX-470 G1 to test Ryzen? What is the result?
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post Mar 3 2017, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Mar 3 2017, 05:06 PM)
unfortunately, no more r5 1400x, but r5 1600x and r5 1500x XD with higher clock.

R5 1600x (6C/12T) BC 3.6/TC 4.0
R5 1600x (6C/12T) BC 3.5/TC 3.7

amd believe will outperform i5 7600k by 64%
Good brief about Ryzen:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3173372/com...en-7-chips.html
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if their r5 1500x is about the same price as i5 7500, it will be worth the wait. too bad they didn't disclose the pricing.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 3 2017, 05:50 PM)
goldfries i saw your post last week at FB that u use RX-470 G1 to test Ryzen? What is the result?
Was on RX 470 initially because I thought I saw the benchmark lower than expected.

Once I found out it was some other stuff I run in the background, I stopped doing benchies on it and went on to GTX 1080.

The reason I tested on RX 470 first is because IF the RX 470 under performs then then that's going to be really bad and need not test higher end cards.

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QUOTE(area61 @ Mar 3 2017, 04:11 PM)
Where is the price cut bro? hmm.gif
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Nothing official, only one US seller did it.

QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 3 2017, 05:50 PM)
@4.2Ghz his i5-3570k is not heavily overclocked imo. tongue.gif
To be fair, FarCry primal is heavily single threaded but i expect better result with The Division.

One thing i noticed is that he used RX-480 in his test while most other reviewer used Nvidia cards, is it AMD infamous driver overhead/improper multi-threaded causing such abysmal performance?

goldfries i saw your post last week at FB that u use RX-470 G1 to test Ryzen? What is the result?
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That particular test was toward more mainstream setup, RX480 he claimed are best mainstream GPU ma.
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post Mar 3 2017, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(area61 @ Mar 3 2017, 04:11 PM)
Where is the price cut bro? hmm.gif
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http://www.techspot.com/news/68310-ryzen-a...ross-board.html

No? Online retailers not Intel my bad.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 3 2017, 04:15 PM)
Since when?

Even AMD doesn't talk about Gaming performance much BUT if you look at benchmarks, they're actually on par with Intel offering in most cases while being behind on some.


You're getting it all wrong.

Ryzen is not ABOUT GAMERS, Gamers is just 1 part of it.

Ryzen is about unprecedented computing power at certain price level, and they did it.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 3 2017, 04:16 PM)
Also, only one online store had price cut. Intel never gave any price cut.

Lead in game performance? Lead, by a bit in most cases. smile.gif

It's no wonder you're not excited, your news all wrong and expectations donno come from where also.
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Okay, maybe my expectations were quite different (but not that different from many). In the end, it didn't quite get where I wanted it ('gaming performance' in particular still behind Intel).

Reading the reviews, praise for the sheer power of Ryzen for content creators, which is not something I would be interested in. No way this is a 5/5 from me, just my opinion.

The AMD Ryzen 7: plenty of power, but underwhelming gaming performance
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-amd-ryzen-7-review/4/

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Mar 3 2017, 06:48 PM)
http://www.techspot.com/news/68310-ryzen-a...ross-board.html

No? Online retailers not Intel my bad.
Okay, maybe my expectations were quite different (but not that different from many). In the end, it didn't quite get where I wanted it ('gaming performance' in particular still behind Intel).

Reading the reviews, praise for the sheer power of Ryzen for content creators, which is not something I would be interested in. No way this is a 5/5 from me, just my opinion.

The AMD Ryzen 7: plenty of power, but underwhelming gaming performance
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-amd-ryzen-7-review/4/
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Price + Performance = YES

Doesn't lose out much either, still a worthy upgrade for any of us.
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Mar 3 2017, 06:48 PM)
http://www.techspot.com/news/68310-ryzen-a...ross-board.html

No? Online retailers not Intel my bad.
Okay, maybe my expectations were quite different (but not that different from many). In the end, it didn't quite get where I wanted it ('gaming performance' in particular still behind Intel).

Reading the reviews, praise for the sheer power of Ryzen for content creators, which is not something I would be interested in. No way this is a 5/5 from me, just my opinion.

The AMD Ryzen 7: plenty of power, but underwhelming gaming performance
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-amd-ryzen-7-review/4/
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AMD has been teasing Ryzen as back to high performance market and great for content creator. It is user's wrong perception that high performance must means gaming.

Also should not dismiss Ryzen's lack of performance in gaming now as conclusion. For so many years, AMD been missing from high end gaming market, so game developer didnt spend much resource/time to optimize their game for AMD. AMD claimed they're working with developers now to optimize their game, how to see how 'far' these optimization can help laugh.gif

As previous, if you're pure gamer looking for upgrade, Kabylake i5/i7 still best option, proper optimization + high clock speed out of box.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Mar 3 2017, 07:39 PM)
AMD has been teasing Ryzen as back to high performance market and great for content creator. It is user's wrong perception that high performance must means gaming.

Also should not dismiss Ryzen's lack of performance in gaming now as conclusion. For so many years, AMD been missing from high end gaming market, so game developer didnt spend much resource/time to optimize their game for AMD. AMD claimed they're working with developers now to optimize their game, how to see how 'far' these optimization can help  laugh.gif

As previous, if you're pure gamer looking for upgrade, Kabylake i5/i7 still best option, proper optimization + high clock speed out of box.
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Let's wait and see Ryzen 3 / 5 first. It's still too early to say anything yet. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 3 2017, 02:32 PM)
Dev still need to code for it, and i think Ryzen SMT is still not fully utilize in current software solution, heck HyperThreading used to give me negative scaling in some games many years ago but now not anymore.
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Yeah there was once upon a time HT causes issues for games, its the same here for amd i assume , this cpu is a multi threading beast is all i can say
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Mar 3 2017, 06:48 PM)
Reading the reviews, praise for the sheer power of Ryzen for content creators, which is not something I would be interested in. No way this is a 5/5 from me, just my opinion.
Well if you go higher resolution, the gap diminishes.

If you are running graphics card like GTX 1060 and below, the gap is negligible.

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post Mar 4 2017, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 4 2017, 07:53 AM)
Well if you go higher resolution, the gap diminishes.

If you are running graphics card like GTX 1060 and below, the gap is negligible.

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I think not so much gap in between asal can 60FPS solid in between. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Mar 4 2017, 08:41 AM)
I think not so much gap in between asal can 60FPS solid in between.  cool2.gif
I'm the type that doesn't feel good when my GPU is not running at max possible speed. biggrin.gif

But yeah actually once it hits 60fps range no one cares. As long as gaming janji smooth.

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If you want to game with Ryzen, disable the SMT (AMD's version of hyperthreading), then it can match 6900K in gaming:

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 4 2017, 08:48 AM)
I'm the type that doesn't feel good when my GPU is not running at max possible speed. biggrin.gif

But yeah actually once it hits 60fps range no one cares. As long as gaming janji smooth.
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1080 , 2K and also thinking of graphic gamers with 4K in mind @ 60FPS is already legit I think. hmm.gif

Please show us if you got leak Ryzen 5 thumbup.gif
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http://wccftech.com/ryzen-7-1800x-overclocked-58ghz-ln2/


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QUOTE(meons @ Mar 4 2017, 10:25 PM)
Good news, right.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 4 2017, 07:53 AM)
Well if you go higher resolution, the gap diminishes.

If you are running graphics card like GTX 1060 and below, the gap is negligible.

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If you put 1080Ti or Titian XP into the mix, Ryzen 1440P performance is just like 1080P again.
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AMD CEO Says Ryzen Gaming Performance Will Improve With Future Patches And Developer Support

Read more at http://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-gami...6ZVpMfGHVFvg.99

Ahaaaa,get prepare for better gaming performance? XD

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