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This is the tread for discussions related to all kinds of PNB funds
Please refer to past discussions for information already discussed:

V1 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/347861
V2 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1120959
V3 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2256158
V4 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2940861
V5 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3142199

Kindly read FAQ to know more about ASNB funds for newcomer.

ASNB UNIT TRUST TRANSACTION
SALARY DEDUCTION
EPF MEMBERS’ INVESTMENT SCHEME
CLAIM OF DECEASED ACCOUNT
ELIGIBILITY TO INVEST
LOST ASNB INVESTMENT BOOK
UPDATE/ CHANGE PERSONAL PARTICULARS
INTERNET BANKING FACILITY

Funds:

1 - SEKIM AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL (ASN) **

Financial Year End: December 31
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2008 - 5.50
2009 - 5.20
2010 - 6.00
2011 - 6.05
2012 - 6.30
2013 - 6.45

2 - AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL 2 (ASN2) **

Financial Year End: June 30
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional 2(ASN2) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.20
2010 - 5.20
2011 - 5.50
2012 - 6.50
2013 - 7.10

3 - AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL3 IMBANG (ASN3) *

Financial Year End: November 30
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional 3 (ASN3) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 7.00
2010 - 5.50
2011 - 6.00
2012 - 6.30
2013 - 6.40

4 - AMANAH SAHAM GEMILANG - PENDIDIKAN (ASG-P) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Gemilang Pendidkan (ASG-P) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.50
2010 - 5.50
2011 - 5.60
2012 - 7.00
2013 - 7.10

5 - AMANAH SAHAM GEMILANG - KESIHATAN (ASG-K) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Gemilang Kesihatan (ASG-K) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.00
2010 - 6.00
2011 - 6.10
2012 - 7.10
2013 - 7.20

6 - AMANAH SAHAM GEMILANG - PERSARAAN (ASG-P) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Gemilang Persaraan (ASG-P) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.00
2010 - 5.00
2011 - 5.10
2012 - 7.05
2013 - 7.30

This post has been edited by [Ancient]-XinG-: Sep 10 2014, 04:51 PM

7 - SKIM AMANAH SAHAM BUMIPUTERA (ASB) **

Financial Year End: December 31
Historical Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2008 - 7.00 + 1.75
2009 - 7.30 + 1.25
2010 - 7.50 + 1.25
2011 - 7.65 + 1.15
2012 - 7.75 + 1.15
2013 - 7.70 + 1.00
(Dividend) + (Bonus)

8 - AMANAH SAHAM WAWASAN 2020 (ASW 2020) *

Financial Year End: August 31
Historical Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 (ASW2020) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 7.00
2010 - 6.30
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.70

9 - AMANAH SAHAM MALAYSIA (ASM) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Malaysia (ASM) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.25
2010 - 6.30
2011 - 6.38
2012 - 6.80
2013 - 6.50

10 - AMANAH SAHAM DIDIK (ASD) **

Financial Year End: June 30
Historical Amanah Saham Didik (ASD) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.30
2010 - 6.35
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.80
2014 - 6.60

11 - AMANAH SAHAM 1MALAYSIA (AS 1MALAYSIA) *

Financial Year End: September 30
Historical Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) Dividend Rate for past 3 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2010 - 6.38
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.80

* - Eligible to all MALAYSIAN
** - Eligible to all BUMIPUTERA

Common Q and A:

- For Non Bumiputera, THE ONLY available funds for you is variable fund, those with the (*) and funds number 3, 4, 5, and 6 mentioned above. And there is NO MORE units left to buy all the other fixed priced fund. And thus YOU CAN'T purchase online. Please do take note before having any questions regarding the matter mentioned above and we will NOT giving out the same answer again and again.

- For Variable Price UT, the price (NAV) will be different EVERY SINGLE DAY. Thus, the unit you purchase will not be always the same and also decrease by 5% for a single transaction. The 5% lost is the service charge. For example, the NAV price for today is 1.912. When you purchase 100 units of UT, its not 191.20 MYR, but you have to cash out 125.16 MYR for the 100 units.

Variable Price UT are (Based on NAV) : ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG - Pendidikan - Kesihatan - Persaraan
Fixed Price UT are (1.00 MYR per unit): ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M

Credit to :

Original Poster V1 doremon
Original Poster V2 cherroy
Original Poster V3 aeronic
and all the contributor a.k.a forumers who give vital and essential information in the past.

1st to check in

So I am second one to check in. Thanks to the TS !

Check In..V6 now

Thanks to [Ancient]-XinG-

Hey guys, I would appreciate some advise.
I have been quite lucky in getting some money in ASW 2020, almost 10 k within a few days. Do you guys think that I should keep putting in some money in ASW, or wait for other funds like AS1M etc. on 1st. October?

Is it not a smart move to put more fund on ASW 2020?
Initially I was thinking that I should not put more funds because dividend has been declared, but for fixed price it is counted monthly, so this shouldn't be concern if I am able to hold the fund for one year, yes?

What is your advice, should I keep trying to put money in ASW 2020?
Thanks guys.

whichever fund u managed to get, u invest in it

if u can get ASW2020, then invest on it. When the time come for AS1M, u try for that

mind asking, where u normally "try" your luck?

Thanks, so I should try and put more money in ASW 2020 yeah?
There is no risk right associated with all this fixed price funds?
(Sorry very new on this).

- I am somewhat a student, so I have the time to actually try at a few branches...(I managed to get lucky once at ASNB), the first few times I actually did not get any funds...

I dun mind which specific Fund (i.e. ASW/ASM/AS1M) as long as I manage to top up any1 of them

yup, should try to put more into ASW2020 if u get the units.

There's minimal risk for ASNB fixed price fund. It's fav scheme for most of us (that's why it's sold out for non-bumi)

That's why I said, if u get ASW2020, juz hentam only. Not always u will get the units. it's depend on luck & unit availability

AS 1Malaysia suspension of transactions: 25 to 30 September 2014
http://www.asnb.com.my/poster_penangguhan/...20AS1M_BI_C.pdf

please enlighten me...is there a 'specific time' to try our luck in Fixed price ASNB fund? i.e. more chances of people will sell on the beginning of the month? @@ thanks

No specific time
Having said tat below is best opportunity to top up:-
ASM 1st Apr
ASW 1st Sep
AS1M 1st Oct

and before any huge celebration.

I got the initial 1000units when the funds first launched but have not add in more money into it. Was never financially savvy and now regret. How to know when can buy more units anyway?

In RHB Bank to take up their offer of 2.5% SC for the ASNB funds. Signed up to buy the 3 ASG funds and ASN-3 fund.

Was told that for fixed price and variable price funds, the dividends are all pro-rata. This some how was different from what I heard before.


Thanks to some of the sifu's for replying my PM's relating to the ASNB funds.

This post has been edited by bbgoat: Sep 11 2014, 04:36 PM

1st of all which fund you're referring to?

ASNB have a list of fund under it. Both Fixed pricing & Variable pricing

eh I tot only the fixed price fund are pro-rated. Once I called ASNB, asking about the AS1M. then they promo me about ASG & ASN3. They said even if u invest 1mth from dividend date, u still get full % of the dividend

Now why the RHB staff said both variable & fixed funds are pro-rated

ASW2020... dont know much other than that

It is the RHB Bank branch manager. He said he tot the same as you mentioned then he double checked it. Anyway I bought just some ASN-3 not so much because of the coming dividend.

u have just missed the opportunity to buy on 2nd Sept. That day kinda have "mega-sale" for most of us.

anyway as u already have the passbook, u can try your luck on getting the units anytime when you're free.

Oh dear! just my luck. anyway, thanks davinz18 for your reply. Hope to learn more from you sifus

My bad

as I said earlier, I'm not expert on Variable pricing fund. u can ask [Ancient]-XinG- or wil-i-am

No problem. I am learning from you guys on ASNB funds.

No worries. u juz try you luck when u have the time. we cannot predict when there's will be unit available

From my experience.

No. ASG is not pro rated. Now only I realize. LOL. Maybe this is the reason why dollar cost averaging is being used in variable funds.

u got check your ASG dividend? maybe got pro-rated?

OT


This post has been edited by davinz18: Sep 11 2014, 06:03 PM

Need ya advise folks...i just bought a property at 4.5% interest for the loan. You think its best to dump savings into the flexi loan or into ASW2020?

ASB2 attracts 57,432 subscribers buying 1.16b units
http://www.nst.com.my/node/32332

Choose ASW2020 coz Dividend (6.60%) is higher than bank interest @ 4.5%

Txs for your reply wil-i-am. Just hope i can get hold of future ASW2020 units. Cheers!

Fixed price - Dividend based on min balance in each month
Variable price - Dividend based on available balance b4 ntitlement

Not bad considering a lot of bumi are in "wait & see" mentality

Anyone trying getting new passbook for ASM or AS1M at ASNB? Was told that need a passbook at bank or pos malaysia else can't buy new units.

bank (mbb,RHB or CIMB) & PM are ASNB agents. it's their job to issue passbook.

only that they "not keen" to open new account for non-bumi (fixed pricing fund) because the hassle they need to endure & in the end no units available

from what I heard, ASNB also the same case

This post has been edited by davinz18: Sep 11 2014, 11:04 PM

Ya, I asked about fixed price funds yesterday, the bank said cannot open new account as no units available. Ended up open new accounts for variable funds.

I just let go my 5000 units AS1M non bumi units last week. Increase to about 5500 units I think.
Must have sold off now.

Should have notify earlier so that regular forumers can try Luck

Feeling lucky today.. Managed to get 1.5k ASW2020 & 500 ASM

Agreed.. without any passbook, we can forget about trying to get any Amanah Saham units (fixed price)

Congratulations !! Done in the bank or ASNB office ?

This post has been edited by bbgoat: Sep 12 2014, 12:45 PM

Congratulation! wah u managed to get quite a sum there

Anyway I only managed to get rm500 ASW & rm100 ASM

even if there's unit available that time, they still insist cannot open new account (and say No units available)

then how to start if can't open new a/cs?

need to wait for ASNB to announce fund size increase & open for new subscription (which a lot of non-bumi waiting since 2010)

based on some "expert", the wait could be even longer now

This post has been edited by davinz18: Sep 12 2014, 04:32 PM

so back to square 1...

1. RM6k into PTPTN/SSPN for the 6K tax relief (2013 dividend was 4.25%)
2. RM60k voluntary EPF contribution (2013 dividend was 6.35%)
3. Balance to FD (MBSB 5 yr @4.7%)

davinz, any other investment? TQ

well, u already got everyting figure out. There no more "safe" & "kinda low-risk" investment left.

Anyway don't u think 5yr FD not too long? People expecting OPR to increase near term

This post has been edited by davinz18: Sep 12 2014, 05:22 PM

Yes, i thought about it. Just placed a nominal amount in mbsb last month as most are in BR's 3-mth FD's @ 3.6%.

The 18th Sep BNM meeting will be the first indicator where to move the funds as both mbsb & BR are very slow to increase their rates after the July increase!

then should be okay, because u got BR 3mth FD

The first shot has been fired by Strd Chrtd Bank, so Now we could expect some FD Promo "war" soon among banks in Malaysia

SCB is trying to get some "cheap" fund before the impeding increase either this month or in Nov. The bottom line is rates WILL increase; just a question of WHEN!

Interesting to note this thread and the FD thread have some common guys !

davinz18, I like your statement:

"The first shot has been fired by Strd Chrtd Bank"

It will be interesting to see how the FD "war" among banks will develop !

Well there's Not much Amanah Saham units available (fixed price), so we all "park" at FD & others places like what giko listed in previous post. When ASx available, we all shall "transfer" back to ASx

yeah, should be interesting to see the so-called FD "war" among banks

I was looking for other investments but ASNB funds kinda hard to get! May just venture into REITs as the returns seem reasonable OR may go back into the stock market...

I think other banks are just going into the wait & see mode until Sep 18...

Imo. Maybank started it with 3.85 which never been done by them b4.. And its from 3.15 previously.

But for me la I stop for eying for fixed price in asnb ad. Now I eying on variable fund and fd war only. Asg is getting interesting lol. Expect highest NAV for this year will more thn 1.22 under 1.30..

got some too at CIMb today.

wah, so easy lah. can teach how to get the units? TQ

Congratulation! wah u managed to get big amount today

I managed to get small amount only

Thanks..

I did at Maybank. Not many people today, so can try few times

wow! rm5000/transaction for ASM Seldom I see non-bumi get that much per transaction

I can't even open fixed price account in RHB. So for now, just sapu whatever I can on ASN-3 and 3 ASG funds. Let their dividends average out instead of concentrating on the Health fund promoted by the manager.

Envy guy3288 on his "conquest" of the fixed price funds !

Dun just sapu variable funds as u need to ensure it suits yo risk appetite

is there a limit to purchase for variable fund? If no, cannot use sapu

No limit as it depends on (i) the availability of units for each Fund n (ii) yo bullet

The ASG funds looks more like the same risk as they seem to be investing at the various banks. I put those funds that I can risk in UT. So risk averse in a way.

My main purpose is not to put all money in one ASNB funds but spread it out as dividends go up and down for these funds.

My sapu means simply buying. Not sapu lots & lots of them. But before that already did some research eg I buy less of ASN-3 vs ASG funds. ALso diff proportion of the 3 ASG funds

This post has been edited by bbgoat: Sep 13 2014, 09:19 AM

Gud decision on doing some research before investing. I'm telling tis to almost everyone I know, but they're not doing it. Simply jump into any investment when others say is good. last2 when there's loss or less profit, then they blame others for not telling them

All ASNB fund have no limit, except ASB & ASB2..

So now all depand on units availbility & your $$

Wise decision

http://www.asnb.com.my/ASG_e.php#produk

No worry.. Hehe. Asg in the past 10 have good total ROI. and the 3 fund only health is equity if not mistaken. And the fund proportion investment is all stable company like maxis pb mbb br axiata aeon drb.
And I compare to those fixed price all, more or less the same company. Just asg is directly affected by klci...
For the past 10year asnb product can consider as low or middle risk..

Agreed. The common companies I see in the funds AR is Sime Darby, Tenaga, Maybank, CIMB, SP Setia, UMW, FGV, Axis Reit, Telekom, Petronas Dagangan, MISC, IOI Corp & Maxis

And ytl too. They dint invest in aviation industry. Lol.

For the 3 ASG funds, I overweight in Kesihatan, Persaraan and Pendidikan in decreasing order.

ASN-3 is even lower than Pendidikan. Just to open the acct so next time easier to buy it.

This post has been edited by bbgoat: Sep 13 2014, 04:40 PM

congrats. did u pay for service charge?

No SC for fixed price funds

All 3 funds in ASG invest in equity with different weightage

Yup, YTL Power...
I think I saw AirAsia Berhad in ASM Annual Report 2014 AirAsia X Bhd Not in the list because it's loss making Company

This post has been edited by davinz18: Sep 13 2014, 08:08 PM

ASN-3 is selling quite fast these days compare few years back. Last time I heard around 500mil units sold. Now I think already reach 600mil units Mark (out from 1bil units fund size). Last year, only around 200mil ASN3 units are subscribe

The past performance of ASN-3 not that good compared with ASG funds. The manager was discouraging me to buy it. Just bought the minimum to open an account. Anyway, past performance does not guarantee future performance. That was the often said disclaimer.

Yes, ASG Kesihatan is labelled as Equity.

All 3 ASG funds top 2 holdings are banks, PBB & MBB, based on July 2014 report.

This post has been edited by bbgoat: Sep 13 2014, 08:35 PM

Spot On

I think tis year dividend should be good. Past few years they keep c/fwd the profits. Year 2010 & 2011 they announce same rate (6sen)

http://1-million-dollar-blog.com/dividends...saham-gemilang/
http://1-million-dollar-blog.com/dividends...ham-nasional-3/

how do u guys know when got release? nasib?

nasib la... Sometime Big catch, Sometime Small catch. Most time No units at all

do you visit the banks everyday?

No lehh.. see their category of fund... http://www.asnb.com.my/ASG_e.php#produk

This year no econ breakdown, so I think will at 7.00 to 7.30.

Hehe. Last year real good.

wei where got time to visit everyday... money growing in tree?

can lah, during lunch time...

last few year ASG outperform ASN3. Tis year, need to wait for ASN3 then only can compare.

dun wan la..

This year ASG still beat ASN imho. Because the massive inward flow happen during Q2 end and Q3 compared to the promotion done by ASG during Q1

I've no comment for Now. The variable pricing fund dividend not like those fixed pricing one where we can somehow predict the outcome