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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V6

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HJebat
post Sep 20 2014, 03:24 PM

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As long as PNB is able to annouce >6.35% for AS1M's dividend, I consider that as a good return nod.gif
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post Sep 21 2014, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 20 2014, 06:57 PM)
U use EPF 2013 rate as benchmark?
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No la...but expect PNB to outperform EPF's rate biggrin.gif
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post Sep 22 2014, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 21 2014, 10:55 AM)
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AS1M (blue line) has performed better than EPF for the past 4 years.

My view is, all the ASX will do better than EPF. Why? My guess is the fund size of EPF is just too big.

Expecting 6.60% for AS1M next week. Will treat my family to a good dinner for anything higher than 6.60%.

Cheerio.
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Even 6.61% also treating family to a good dinner? You must have substantial amount in AS1M to be able to do that brows.gif

Maybe Paddy's Coffee House in NWS? tongue.gif

OK, seriously, AS1M is an equity income fund while most of EPF investments are in low-risk fixed revenue instruments. So, generally ASX should/must perform better than EPF in terms of return rate. Else, where want to cover their malu face? laugh.gif
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post Sep 23 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 22 2014, 09:40 AM)
Hai ya, mana boleh ini, 1+1=11?

Normal dinner is maggi mee. Good dinner is maggi mee PLUS eggs!

0.1% of RM10K = RM10

0.1% of RM50K = RM50

I can buy quite a lot of eggs! Ha.

Hope for a BIG number this week!
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Like that also can ar? biggrin.gif

If it is indeed a big number for AS1M, some readers might opt to withdraw the dividend & invest in Nestle stock...since we know there is one hardcore maggi mee consumer around laugh.gif
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post Sep 25 2014, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 23 2014, 01:09 PM)
Ha ha, very insightful!

Nestle is in my list to watch but it is now not at the right price to buy. Yes, some will say it will go even higher but the upside is getting smaller and harder to reach. My 2 cents.
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Nestle caught my attention too rclxms.gif Referring only to its price attribute, I've seen it rose from RM29-30 to today's >RM60 quotation.

Don't dare to calculate what is the % of return rate if I purchase it then vs the % that I've received while holding the ASX... sweat.gif
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post Sep 27 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 25 2014, 12:44 PM)
I was curious and did a comparison.

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I know AS1M only started recently but using the average 6.5% pa dividend, I plotted the returns since 2000 for AS1M & Nestle.

Only in recent years, Nestle did better than AS1M. Nestle price trend seems to reach a flat line now, undecided whether to increase further or take a breather.

Yes, I did not include Nestle's dividend in there.

With Nestle, the profit is only on paper until you sell it. It may drop (small or big) in the coming recession. With AS1M, no worry, the amount is always there and cannot go down unless you withdraw.

Cheerio.
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Yes, I see your point. But I share the same belief with one wise apek that prefers company that sells consumer staples with strong brand names laugh.gif As long as that company is able to sustain its economic moat, that wise apek prefers to hold on to it forever. I think Nestle is one example of that sort of company in Bolehland. I expect the profit/upside potential of this stock is more than that can be offered by ASx; even if it's only on paper.

With ASx (especially the fixed-price fund), either market bloom or doom, the RM1 is always there. We wouldn't know the exact figure when the economy is good or bad because PNB controls the the price (maybe to enable the funds to have adequate amount of units to accommodate mass withdrawal during crash periods). As a result of that, depositors will receive average returns.

I'd love to associate myself with Nestle for some pleasant & respectable return, and will still hold on to ASx for some moderate & acceptable income. Either way, I find it comfortable to invest and grow my money icon_rolleyes.gif




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post Sep 27 2014, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 27 2014, 12:29 PM)
The main core reason that why ASNB stop introducing fixed price fund. I come across that IF, all the funds under PNB is variable funds, will they perform better? Or worse? Or real excellent that providing > 7% pa. Because we know that they ALWAYS reserve some % to overcoming bad years.
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We may have a clue of the actual fixed-price funds' return rate if the PNB president keeps revealing the precise income distributions for unit holders. For this year, PNB has the capasity to distribute 8.4 sen for AS1M (but distributed 6.6 sen) & 9.3 sen for ASW (but distributed 6.6 sen). I can't remember/find the figure for ASM, maybe someone else can try to dig it out.

If PNB is willing to disclose the exact amount to public on annual basis, then we can trace the real return rate & serve as a good indication versus other investment intruments. Thereupon, we will know ASx can perform & provide better or worse return rate than others.
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post Sep 27 2014, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 27 2014, 01:54 PM)
you're not alone. a lot of people I know do shares trading (for more profit but with higher risk) & also invest in ASNB fund for their low risk stable income.. u get best of both worlds  tongue.gif

Only problem now is lack of new units for the fixed price ASx fund  cry.gif
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Can share share your investment portfolio? brows.gif

Currently what stock or ASx fund are you holding?
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post Sep 27 2014, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 27 2014, 11:10 PM)
PNB can pay up to 8.8sen for ASM, but they pay 6.6sen only
http://news.abnxcess.com/2014/03/asnb-decl...-asm-investors/
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Ah, good job...so for this year tracking purposes :
ASW - 9.3%
ASM - 8.8%
AS1M - 8.3%
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 27 2014, 11:10 PM)
Have ASW2020, ASM & AS1M  icon_rolleyes.gif

Share investment  brows.gif
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Share investment brows.gif as in tarak ada or ... hmm.gif
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post Sep 29 2014, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 27 2014, 11:27 PM)
ikan bilis investor oni sweat.gif

so ASW2020 is the best ASx this year (actual income) flex.gif

ASW - 9.3%
ASM - 8.8%
AS1M - 8.3%
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Do you by any chance, have last year's or past years' actual income for the 3 fixed-price fund? blush.gif

PS: Why did you delete your post to will?
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post Sep 29 2014, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 29 2014, 09:55 AM)
U can obtain their past performance via ASNB website
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Mana? Mana? Tarak ada wor...

Only found the income distribution, not the actual income that can be distributed sad.gif
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post Oct 2 2014, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 29 2014, 12:34 PM)
ASD - 11.5% (another fixed price fund which top the list).
sources: http://ww3.utusan.com.my/utusan/Korporat/2...-660-sen-seunit
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Ok, noted...thanks for the feedback.


QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2014, 04:49 PM)
2013 (actual income they can pay)

ASW - 9 sen (6.7sen) LINK
ASM - 8.4 sen (6.5+0.3sen) LINK
AS1M - 8 sen (6.7sen) LINK

My Report for Now sweat.gif  icon_idea.gif flex.gif  flex.gif
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Fuiyoh, caya sama lu la...give sama you my gratitude rclxms.gif


QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 29 2014, 05:26 PM)
Click the respective Fund's AR
http://www.asnb.com.my/asw.htm
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Found it! thumbup.gif

Tenkiu, tenkiu wink.gif
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post Oct 28 2014, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 27 2014, 02:17 PM)
got some asw today
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Wow, looking at your hit rate...is it OK to assume that you have appointed a counter staff to assist you in purchasing ASx units?
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 28 2014, 10:00 PM)
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Can share how do you reward the staff for the aid given to you?

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