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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V6

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post Sep 10 2014, 09:49 PM

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So I am second one to check in. Thanks to the TS !
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post Sep 11 2014, 04:35 PM

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In RHB Bank to take up their offer of 2.5% SC for the ASNB funds. Signed up to buy the 3 ASG funds and ASN-3 fund.

Was told that for fixed price and variable price funds, the dividends are all pro-rata. This some how was different from what I heard before.
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Thanks to some of the sifu's for replying my PM's relating to the ASNB funds. notworthy.gif

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post Sep 11 2014, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2014, 04:43 PM)
eh I tot only the fixed price fund are pro-rated. Once I called ASNB, asking about the AS1M. then they promo me about ASG & ASN3. They said even if u invest 1mth from dividend date, u still get full % of the dividend  nod.gif 

Now why the RHB staff said both variable & fixed funds are pro-rated hmm.gif  rclxub.gif
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It is the RHB Bank branch manager. He said he tot the same as you mentioned then he double checked it. Anyway I bought just some ASN-3 not so much because of the coming dividend. smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2014, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2014, 05:02 PM)
My bad  blush.gif 

as I said earlier, I'm not expert on Variable pricing fund.  u can ask [Ancient]-XinG- or wil-i-am  notworthy.gif
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No problem. I am learning from you guys on ASNB funds. smile.gif rclxms.gif
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post Sep 12 2014, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2014, 11:02 PM)
bank (mbb,RHB or CIMB) & PM are ASNB agents. it's their job to issue passbook.

only that they "not keen" to open new account for non-bumi (fixed pricing fund) because the hassle they need to endure & in the end no units available  nod.gif

from what I heard, ASNB also the same case  cry.gif
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Ya, I asked about fixed price funds yesterday, the bank said cannot open new account as no units available. Ended up open new accounts for variable funds. sad.gif
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post Sep 12 2014, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Sarah Jessica @ Sep 12 2014, 12:20 PM)
Feeling lucky today.. Managed to get 1.5k ASW2020 & 500 ASM  rclxms.gif
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Congratulations !! rclxms.gif Done in the bank or ASNB office ?

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 12 2014, 05:52 PM)
then should be okay, because u got BR 3mth FD  nod.gif

The first shot has been fired by Strd Chrtd Bank, so Now we could expect some FD Promo "war" soon among banks in Malaysia nod.gif
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QUOTE(giko @ Sep 12 2014, 05:59 PM)
SCB is trying to get some "cheap" fund before the impeding increase either this month or in Nov. The bottom line is rates WILL increase; just a question of WHEN!  smile.gif
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Interesting to note this thread and the FD thread have some common guys ! rclxms.gif

davinz18, I like your statement:

"The first shot has been fired by Strd Chrtd Bank"

It will be interesting to see how the FD "war" among banks will develop ! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 13 2014, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 12 2014, 08:23 PM)

But for me la I stop for eying for fixed price in asnb ad. Now I eying on variable fund and fd war only. Asg is getting interesting lol. Expect highest NAV for this year will more thn 1.22 under 1.30..
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I can't even open fixed price account in RHB. So for now, just sapu whatever I can on ASN-3 and 3 ASG funds. Let their dividends average out instead of concentrating on the Health fund promoted by the manager.

Envy guy3288 on his "conquest" of the fixed price funds ! notworthy.gif

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post Sep 13 2014, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 13 2014, 08:46 AM)
Dun just sapu variable funds as u need to ensure it suits yo risk appetite
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The ASG funds looks more like the same risk as they seem to be investing at the various banks. I put those funds that I can risk in UT. So risk averse in a way. smile.gif

My main purpose is not to put all money in one ASNB funds but spread it out as dividends go up and down for these funds.

QUOTE(sms2u @ Sep 13 2014, 08:54 AM)
is there a limit to purchase for variable fund? If no, cannot use sapu
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My sapu means simply buying. Not sapu lots & lots of them. tongue.gif But before that already did some research eg I buy less of ASN-3 vs ASG funds. ALso diff proportion of the 3 ASG funds biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 13 2014, 02:21 PM)
No worry.. Hehe. Asg in the past 10 have good total ROI. and the 3 fund only health is equity if not mistaken. And the fund proportion investment is all stable company like maxis pb mbb br axiata aeon drb.
And I compare to those fixed price all, more or less the same company. Just asg is directly affected by klci...
For the past 10year asnb product can consider as low or middle risk..
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 13 2014, 03:08 PM)
Agreed. The common companies I see in the funds AR is Sime Darby, Tenaga, Maybank, CIMB, SP Setia, UMW, FGV, Axis Reit, Telekom, Petronas Dagangan, MISC, IOI Corp & Maxis  nod.gif
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For the 3 ASG funds, I overweight in Kesihatan, Persaraan and Pendidikan in decreasing order. biggrin.gif

ASN-3 is even lower than Pendidikan. Just to open the acct so next time easier to buy it. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 13 2014, 08:13 PM)
ASN-3 is selling quite fast these days compare few years back. Last time I heard around 500mil units sold. Now I think already reach 600mil units Mark (out from 1bil units fund size). Last year, only around 200mil ASN3 units are subscribe  nod.gif
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The past performance of ASN-3 not that good compared with ASG funds. The manager was discouraging me to buy it. Just bought the minimum to open an account. Anyway, past performance does not guarantee future performance. That was the often said disclaimer. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 13 2014, 02:21 PM)
No worry.. Hehe. Asg in the past 10 have good total ROI. and the 3 fund only health is equity if not mistaken. And the fund proportion investment is all stable company like maxis pb mbb br axiata aeon drb.
And I compare to those fixed price all, more or less the same company. Just asg is directly affected by klci...
For the past 10year asnb product can consider as low or middle risk..
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Yes, ASG Kesihatan is labelled as Equity.

All 3 ASG funds top 2 holdings are banks, PBB & MBB, based on July 2014 report. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 14 2014, 12:06 PM)
K only. Next term only see pendidikan.
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So far, highest return is K. I invest in all 3 so as to average out the returns for ASG. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 14 2014, 04:02 PM)
So far, highest return is K. I invest in all 3 so as to average out the returns for ASG.  rclxms.gif
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I looked at the fact sheet again. The yield of Pendidikan for 2014 and 2013 is 6.60% and 6.77%. Whereas K is 6.27% & 6.56% respectively. So actually Pendidikan return is the highest among the ASG funds. So should have look at the yield instead of pure income distribution (net sen/unit). The price of the fund affects the yield. smile.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 14 2014, 05:58 PM)
Dun look at Yield coz they took dividend declared/NAV after distribution
Should look at Jumlah Pulangan for Variable funds
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Where is this "Jumlah Pulangan for Variable funds", is it in the AR ?
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 14 2014, 06:01 PM)
SOS Why 80% unit trusts holders under performed?

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/sosfinance/59854.jsp

There was some discussion on UT vs ASX earlier.

Bottom line is, only a few are doing well. So, don't blindly jump into UT thinking the grass is greener there.

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Do you have the link for the discussion on UT vs ASX. Thanks !
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2014, 04:43 PM)
eh I tot only the fixed price fund are pro-rated. Once I called ASNB, asking about the AS1M. then they promo me about ASG & ASN3. They said even if u invest 1mth from dividend date, u still get full % of the dividend  nod.gif 

Now why the RHB staff said both variable & fixed funds are pro-rated hmm.gif  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 11 2014, 08:27 PM)
Fixed price - Dividend based on min balance in each month
Variable price - Dividend based on available balance b4 ntitlement
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Hi guys,

In RHB Bank today. Asked the manager again on variable price dividend. Told him I heard variable price funds are NOT pro-rated for dividend distribution. He called another person who called back again to confirm. So the variable price fund dividend is based on available balance b4 entitlement.

Thanks ! smile.gif

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 15 2014, 04:39 PM)
Those who are familiar will know that ASNB's mantra is "competitive and consistent returns" which is why they are the very few fund managers that c/f earnings to the next financial year. They may not win many awards or have bumper yields often but they have the track record of providing returns year in and year out.

A lot of people miss this point and just go for those with recent high returns or has 5 stars/rating funds  doh.gif

If you're looking for decent, stable returns with low risk, ASNB's funds are it. If you really want to chase double-digit returns, go for hedge-fund terus lah lagi power  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2014, 05:02 PM)
wow u read my mind, only that I didn't express it like you  wub.gif  notworthy.gif
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Yes, I really hate those UT that I bought >5 years ago. Some drop by 10 to 30% in 1 year but could recover like yo yo later. Consistent return is much better than one that swing up and down like no control whatsoever. nod.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2014, 06:09 PM)
okay. Now I know the actual thing.

Thanks for confirming with the manager  rclxms.gif
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It proves that even bank manager may not know the fact/details. The manager is kind of young. Last week he even told me he has checked before but today turns out the other way round. But at least he did call to someone else who still need to double confirm on this. You guys are the one that know all ! notworthy.gif
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For those wanting to open new account to buy fixed price fund, no way to open the new account now ? Or have to wait when there is units available, then open new account to buy it ? The RHB manager told me cannot even try.

Sorry, hope I did not sound like broken record. Cannot seem to get a clear answer for the above.

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