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nexona88
post Sep 16 2014, 01:20 PM

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Balance of AS1M units for Bumiputera investors is less than RM1 bln — PNB

AS1M, a fixed price fund with a size of RM10 billion units, was launched on July 31, 2009 by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak. It is open to all Malaysians with an allocation of 50 per cent for Bumiputeras, 30 per cent for Chinese, 15 per cent for Indians and five per cent for other ethnic groups.


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post Sep 16 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 16 2014, 02:22 PM)
Interesting infor.

Can't get to ASNB today, some web problem from my end.

Do you know the take-ups for the bumi and non bumi for all the fixed price units?

Bumi take-ups are about the same in all the fixed price units or is there one with very good/bad bumi take-up?

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ASNB website have some problem. it went back to the old interface

I'm sorry, I don't have the information.. u need to ask ASNB directly for it icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 16 2014, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 15 2014, 07:21 PM)
i intended to transfer 100K to my sis account, asked 2 counters to do it, one counter staff process the sell transaction, another counter get ready to take up the unit sponteneously, guess what, able to capture 50K, the rest  gone with the wind within few seconds.
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I used to know someone who offered the PNB officers some tips, for exchange they will help you to "reserve" the amount of fund you desire whenever the opportunity arises, and notifies you to immediately bring over your money for purchase.
Downside is you need to be always available, ie. not really viable for the working people. True enough, he managed to buy extra units for it not long later, despite the funds being fully subscribed most of the time.

I Have also heard of people having friends working at PNB-appointed banks, who will help them to purchase whenever units are available. That is why the funds are always unavailable to the rest of us, because the moment someone sells, these bankers and PNB officers immediately grabbed them.
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post Sep 16 2014, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 16 2014, 07:26 PM)
I've been saying it for a few threads now (since V4 I think), it's highly unlikely that they'll be ALLOWED to issue anymore new fixed priced funds or allow for the funds to grow other than via dividend distribution. ASB2 in my view was a freak of nature, pure luck. Najib just went against BNM and SC to entice the younger gen-y group.

Fixed priced funds provide too much systemic risk towards the local stock market. In the event of another 97/98 were ever to happen again, it would be too much of a strain on PNB/ASNB's finances to honour the RM1 per unit valuation when the actual NAV drops below RM1. Remember, their assets under management or units in circulation now is much, much larger now than it was almost 16 years ago.

I've read somewhere that some guy did some calculations and all of ASNB's fixed priced funds if added together actually represents about 300+ points of the KLCI. So in theory, if another 97/98 were to happen again and people withdrew from the local stock market the same way that people did back in 97/98, KLCI can lose 300+ points just from 1 fund manager alone  doh.gif

If you can understand this point that you'll understand why we all have to live with the existing fixed priced funds and its current size limitations tongue.gif
ps: I've also heard rumours that SC may also consider stopping PNB from paying dividends in units to stop the fixed priced funds from growing any larger  ohmy.gif
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very good explanation for all of us especially those who are unfamiliar with the SC policy & Bursa rclxms.gif

I cannot imagine ASNB stop paying dividends in units for the fixed priced funds cry.gif
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post Sep 16 2014, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 16 2014, 08:27 PM)
Just maintain saving account or current account with the agent bank, authorise the bank to "transfer" the money from bank account to ASX fixed price fund.
Just to make sure the saving/current got sufficient balance.
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can we do that? without we present at the branch? hmm.gif
I mean for "ordinary" customers hmm.gif

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 16 2014, 08:56 PM)
Need connection and relationship, that is why bank has so call relationship banking..
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u mean those min 250k balance in bank account services thingy hmm.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 16 2014, 08:58 PM)
No dividend and fixed price, then how to grow?  cry.gif

Same as keeping the money under the pillow.  yawn.gif

SC has the power to tell PNB what to do?  icon_idea.gif
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IINM PNB did pay unitholders with cheque & not reinvested as new units nod.gif

yup. SC have the "power" to tell PNB, but Najib have the "main power" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 16 2014, 09:28 PM)
Dividends in cash and not as reinvested units, I see.

Not that bad as that will give me a good excuse to diversify/jump to another investing vehicle without that much regret. Ha.
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yeah.

I think there some reason why PNB stop giving cheque & started to do reinvest in new units hmm.gif

for me, better to give as new units than cheque. If give cheque, there's possibility I may use it & in end the balance in passbook don't add up tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2014, 09:42 PM)
ASNB can submit features of new Fund (i.e. fixed pricing) to SC but subject to approval
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Main point is would SC approve new fixed pricing fund nod.gif

Based on hyelbaine previous post, SC worried ASNB fund getting "too big" & will effect bursa if there's any market crash nod.gif
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post Sep 18 2014, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2014, 02:07 PM)
I know AmInvestment Services offer AmIncome (MM) with fixed buy/sell price @ 1.00 each
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still available now? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 18 2014, 04:25 PM)
Sorry that I was not clear with my query.

I was referring to govt bodies like ASNB "helping its citizens" with better returns. I was not referring to units with fixed prices.

Any other countries? Or are we the only one?
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I think we're the only one in the world offering Fixed Pricing UT by govt bodies icon_rolleyes.gif

Malaysia Ke Arah Kuasa Besar Dunia laugh.gif
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post Sep 18 2014, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2014, 06:19 PM)
Yup
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how the dividend rate? something like ASNB fixed pricing? hmm.gif
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post Sep 18 2014, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2014, 06:22 PM)
Less than 3% pa payable monthly
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let's say I invest 10k. 3% dividend.

so dividend would be rm25/monthly hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2014, 06:29 PM)
Tis product for u to park xces Funds on short term basis
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but 3% is quite low. Even Affin & CIMB give 3.25% for 1mth FD icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2014, 06:42 PM)
No minimum duration for tis product
U decide how long u need (min 1 day)
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wow! 1 day also can shocking.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2014, 06:45 PM)
Tats y u can't compare tis product with Bank 1 mth FD
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yeah, you're correct notworthy.gif

okay we better stop now. It getting OT tongue.gif
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QUOTE(daniellee80 @ Sep 18 2014, 11:30 PM)
hey guys,
why do you think bumiputeras would purchase the ASM, ASW 2020, AS1M, when they can purchase ASB which yield much better returns? 7 + 1 %?
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yes, simply because they already max their ASB limit tongue.gif

Another thing, the bonus is for keeping more than 10years. less 10years no bonus icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(daniellee80 @ Sep 18 2014, 11:37 PM)
wah, so many of them already max out? O.o

btw, did any of u guys manage to get the fixed price today?

also, if u guys can choose to invest in either ASW2020, ASM or AS1M, which one would you prefer and why? hehehe smile.gif
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yup, don't underestimate them notworthy.gif then u have ASB2 scheme for those guys..

I think got 1 forummer managed to get some units today

few years back, I would pick ASW2020, ASM then lastly AS1M. Nowadays all give almost the same rate (maybe have 0.1-0.3sen difference only). The fixed pricing fund are so predictable unlike those variable pricing funds.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 18 2014, 02:24 PM)
Not sure on whether on this coming October 2014, will the gov announce some special fixed price funds or not..  blush.gif
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 18 2014, 02:59 PM)
Malaysia Budget 2015 announcement which would be held on 10 October 2014..

I recalled last time that the details of AS1M was also out during the budget announcement..

Hope for miracle..  blush.gif
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The chance for new fixed price fund are so slim whistling.gif
SC worried ASNB funds are getting "too big" & may pose some risk to bursa if there's any crash / mass withdrawal by unitholders smile.gif

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