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MyWifeCar
post Sep 23 2014, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 23 2014, 03:22 PM)
I dont think we have 'brand' for IPA.. Correct me if im wrong..

I bought IPA from forumer here..
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I think IPA is the nama bahan kimia, for branding purpose you may find something like "Pre wax cleaner" "Eraser" "Remover" etc.

Just that since most of the detailers are OCD-ed, they prefer it "pure". biggrin.gif Hence they will use those that meant for makmal level kind of cleaning agent.
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post Sep 23 2014, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 04:55 PM)
Was told it was Opti-Coat before apply.
Well, it was done by the brand owner himself, guess it should not be the issue of application. The car was only 3 months old.

This is my own experience and also of my friend, who knows nothing about detailing. How others experienced it maybe different. Not sure if there is anyone else that can share...

Maybe what krismas said is correct, the Optimum shampoo helps in retaining or adding the durability of the coat. Should have told my friend this... He refused to use ONR simply because no bubbles    sweat.gif

But I was thinking, why not the vertical panel while only horizontal panel that was affected only... Is it heat issue or what..?

Actually I was told of the warranty period, but since nothing in hand-writting, should I go back to the detailer?

What would shops/detailers do in issue like this? Re-apply the coat?
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Sounds convincing with ONR after applying Opti-Coat. Well i havent use ONR yet u mean ONR not producing any foam at all?

krismas I always use Meguairs Gold Class Car Wash, would it affect the Opti Coat if one day I plan to coat on the body? hmm.gif

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post Sep 23 2014, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 04:21 PM)
Which thread u got from? Maybe a link i can have a look.  biggrin.gif
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Google abang... https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1961497/all
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 04:09 PM)
Ok. This stirred my curiosity again. Not directed to you in particular ya....How to know when the water has been 'softened'?
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Ok well, according to Autogeek forum, whereby in certain areas many people need to deal with hard water, as in even when they washing their car with any their favorite shampoo, they needed to rinse real often else the waterspots etch in like within minutes. Adding one cap of ONR helps "soften" the water for them.

Alright, I better stop lol... Too many Meg's die hard and anti OPT here.
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 04:55 PM)
Was told it was Opti-Coat before apply.
Well, it was done by the brand owner himself, guess it should not be the issue of application. The car was only 3 months old.

This is my own experience and also of my friend, who knows nothing about detailing. How others experienced it maybe different. Not sure if there is anyone else that can share...

Maybe what krismas said is correct, the Optimum shampoo helps in retaining or adding the durability of the coat. Should have told my friend this... He refused to use ONR simply because no bubbles    sweat.gif

But I was thinking, why not the vertical panel while only horizontal panel that was affected only... Is it heat issue or what..?

Actually I was told of the warranty period, but since nothing in hand-writting, should I go back to the detailer?

What would shops/detailers do in issue like this? Re-apply the coat?
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Your detailer will have do a proper cleaning of the car for re-inspection, if it is not performed like it should be, he should redo the coating for you, along with any paint correction/preparation that is necessary.
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post Sep 23 2014, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 05:02 PM)
Sounds convincing with ONR after applying Opti-Coat. Well i havent use ONR yet u mean ONR not producing any foam at all?

krismas I always use Meguairs Gold Class Car Wash, would it affect the Opti Coat if one day I plan to coat on the body?   hmm.gif
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ONR do not produce bubbles like those "snow car wash"... Well, telling someone noob on detailing is like that, no bubbles mean not clean, period. I still laugh even though he is my best friend, hysterically. biggrin.gif

Well, there are plenty of other coating that is easily available in the market. But if you want to try Opti-coat, then should probably use ONR or optimum related products... since it can prolong the durability of the coating, maybe. I say maybe because so far don't see much feedback on the post application.

Maybe paint coating is not a really good idea to detailers, like me and quazacolt. Even after apply paint coat, I still wash my car and wax it like crazy... biggrin.gif

I am not OCD.

This post has been edited by MyWifeCar: Sep 23 2014, 05:10 PM
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post Sep 23 2014, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 04:55 PM)
But I was thinking, why not the vertical panel while only horizontal panel that was affected only... Is it heat issue or what..?
From what I understand, Opti Coat is polymer/acrylic type of coating...so they inherit the same problem as acrylic paint - expanding when hot and contracting when cold. In our weather, this would translate to opening up of the pores and trapping minute particles of dirt. More prone on horizontal panels as dirt/water on horizontal surfaces won't run off as easily as vertical panels. Even my VX1 and normal waxes/sealants lasted far longer on vertical panels as compared to horizontal panels.

QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 05:02 PM)
krismas I always use Meguairs Gold Class Car Wash, would it affect the Opti Coat if one day I plan to coat on the body?  hmm.gif
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Not too sure about this...but I highly doubt it. But if it does, there's definitely something wrong with Opti Coat. Anyway, just something to note. The beading/sheeting effect of most coatings are normally on its upper most layer. Like Opti Coat, the beading/sheeting may deteriorate due to contamination of its upper most layer, but the protection is still there. If the coating is good enough, you can actually 'deep clean' the surface and the beading/sheeting would come back.

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 23 2014, 05:03 PM)
Alright, I better stop lol... Too many Meg's die hard and anti OPT here.
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Hey...I'm fond of Optimum products too man....and still an avid user of some of them. Just that I don't like how some people are over-hyping their products.....

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post Sep 23 2014, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Sep 23 2014, 05:02 PM)
SOrry sorry i scared got wrong info hehe. DOes it need to be diluted or can be use directly?

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 23 2014, 05:03 PM)
Ok well, according to Autogeek forum, whereby in certain areas many people need to deal with hard water, as in even when they washing their car with any their favorite shampoo, they needed to rinse real often else the waterspots etch in like within minutes. Adding one cap of ONR helps "soften" the water for them.

Alright, I better stop lol... Too many Meg's die hard and anti OPT here.
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Bro dont say like that leh, I still see what you typing there and learning some info of Opti. Im not die hard Meg's just that i been sticking with it for so some time d. laugh.gif laugh.gif


QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 05:09 PM)
ONR do not produce bubbles like those "snow car wash"... Well, telling someone noob on detailing is like that, no bubbles mean not clean, period. I still laugh even though he is my best friend, hysterically.  biggrin.gif

Well, there are plenty of other coating that is easily available in the market. But if you want to try Opti-coat, then should probably use ONR or optimum related products... since it can prolong the durability of the coating, maybe. I say maybe because so far don't see much feedback on the post application.

Maybe paint coating is not a really good idea to detailers, like me and quazacolt. Even after apply paint coat, I still wash my car and wax it like crazy...  biggrin.gif

I am not OCD.
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Agree about that, i keep on find free time to wash my car. Worried that it will fade faster. But now days been busy i only able to wash after 9-12 days. rclxub.gif
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post Sep 23 2014, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 05:26 PM)
From what I understand, Opti Coat is polymer/acrylic type of coating...so they inherit the same problem as acrylic paint - expanding when hot and contracting when cold. In our weather, this would translate to opening up of the pores and trapping minute particles of dirt. More prone on horizontal panels as dirt/water on horizontal surfaces won't run off as easily as vertical panels. Even my VX1 and normal waxes/sealants lasted far longer on vertical panels as compared to horizontal panels.
Not too sure about this...but I highly doubt it. But if it does, there's definitely something wrong with Opti Coat. Anyway, just something to note. The beading/sheeting effect of most coatings are normally on its upper most layer. Like Opti Coat, the beading/sheeting may deteriorate due to contamination of its upper most layer, but the protection is still there. If the coating is good enough, you can actually 'deep clean' the surface and the beading/sheeting would come back.
Hey...I'm fond of Optimum products too man....and still an avid user of some of them. Just that I don't like how some people are over-hyping their products.....

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Well I sure hope I ain't over hyping, but just sharing info since I used them a lot. It is just like Megs has been here longer than Optimum, so everywhere you only see people knowing 105/205 compounds, and they totally saying the likes of Hyper Polish is crap (due to not knowing what it is). Likewise, my car has Opti Coat therefore I would like to see how far I can keep it going.

The other cars in my household, I feel free to play around with the likes of Duragloss Enviroshield, CQuartz, Ultima Paint Guard Plus.
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post Sep 23 2014, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 05:09 PM)
ONR do not produce bubbles like those "snow car wash"... Well, telling someone noob on detailing is like that, no bubbles mean not clean, period. I still laugh even though he is my best friend, hysterically.  biggrin.gif

Well, there are plenty of other coating that is easily available in the market. But if you want to try Opti-coat, then should probably use ONR or optimum related products... since it can prolong the durability of the coating, maybe. I say maybe because so far don't see much feedback on the post application.

Maybe paint coating is not a really good idea to detailers, like me and quazacolt. Even after apply paint coat, I still wash my car and wax it like crazy...  biggrin.gif

I am not OCD.
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One sealant you can try, which I like the most is Prima Hydro Max. Wipes like a QD, but wow...
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post Sep 23 2014, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 23 2014, 05:03 PM)
Alright, I better stop lol... Too many Meg's die hard and anti OPT here.
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to be honest i think most, if not all of us are very open here.
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 23 2014, 05:09 PM)
ONR do not produce bubbles like those "snow car wash"... Well, telling someone noob on detailing is like that, no bubbles mean not clean, period. I still laugh even though he is my best friend, hysterically.  biggrin.gif

Well, there are plenty of other coating that is easily available in the market. But if you want to try Opti-coat, then should probably use ONR or optimum related products... since it can prolong the durability of the coating, maybe. I say maybe because so far don't see much feedback on the post application.

Maybe paint coating is not a really good idea to detailers, like me and quazacolt. Even after apply paint coat, I still wash my car and wax it like crazy...  biggrin.gif

I am not OCD.
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but seriously, the last time i wash my car was months ago, so lol.
and when the wax/sealant/topping still last, f*** coatings la laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 23 2014, 07:30 PM)
rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
but seriously, the last time i wash my car was months ago, so lol.
and when the wax/sealant/topping still last, f*** coatings la laugh.gif
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I hope I can do it like you, but... But... At most 10 days I betahan already, even a fast wash I will do.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 23 2014, 07:38 PM)
I hope I can do it like you, but... But... At most 10 days I betahan already, even a fast wash I will do.
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i'm just lazy la, lazy is not good sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 23 2014, 07:30 PM)
rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
but seriously, the last time i wash my car was months ago, so lol.
and when the wax/sealant/topping still last, f*** coatings la laugh.gif
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Actually it is an experience too on how to apply coating... But i find it rather more pleasing to apply if you have someone to help you doing the buffing. biggrin.gif

Still have 1 bottle 30ml with me ... GTechniq.
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post Sep 24 2014, 12:06 AM

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OPT fans here wave.gif Well, I'm not selective or particular brand alone. Just find something useful and use it often. Anyway, finally got the opportunity to polish and opti-coat a truck last week...

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It has been one week since the application. Will give it a wash this weekend and looking forward to seeing the insane beading biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Sep 23 2014, 07:06 PM)
Well I sure hope I ain't over hyping, but just sharing info since I used them a lot. It is just like Megs has been here longer than Optimum, so everywhere you only see people knowing 105/205 compounds, and they totally saying the likes of Hyper Polish is crap (due to not knowing what it is).  Likewise, my car has Opti Coat therefore I would like to see how far I can keep it going.

The other cars in my household, I feel free to play around with the likes of Duragloss Enviroshield, CQuartz, Ultima Paint Guard Plus.
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Thanks for still sticking around. Any info shared from somebody who's been long using a particular product from a particular brand is very much appreciated. I for one, am getting old and a little tired of trying out and comparing such and such products so that people can get a more un-biased info instead of getting them straight from the seller/marketeer or brand representatives. Furthermore, recently there's been quite a surge of new products coming out from several manufacturers and, damn they're getting more and more attractive....

Just keep an open mind bro. There's really no such thing as THE best product or THE best technique/method; there's only what's BEST SUITED to each individuals when it comes to personal use. Commercial professionals, and especially those who are committed to a particular brand, has the responsibilities to push their product and utilies the products strong points to the fullest. Most would withhold the products' weaknesses so that others won't take advantage of those weaknesses to gain that certain commercial edge. So, in other word, when it comes to the already established brands, it's not about the brand/product, it's about the person representing them.

Here in the DIY world, we look for both the strong points and the weaknesses and relay/share that info so that others can make a more 'educative' decisions based on their own personal preferences and limitations.

Again, keep an open mind. Such is the proverb: ""天上有天, 人上有人".

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Sep 24 2014, 08:52 AM)
OPT fans here  wave.gif Well, I'm not selective or particular brand alone. Just find something useful and use it often. Anyway, finally got the opportunity to polish and opti-coat a truck last week...

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It has been one week since the application. Will give it a wash this weekend and looking forward to seeing the insane beading biggrin.gif
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Love the huge truck in detail thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

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