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 Car Care and Detailing [V4], Caring for your car apprearance

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kalvinkhoo
post Sep 23 2014, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 22 2014, 08:18 PM)
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If wanna try opti is like moving to a new line... cry.gif


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THat Opti-Coat not sure what is it i saw the price tag, i need tie my stomach! shocking.gif


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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Nice thing, until now im able to get 2000 sand paper only. Where u get 2500k?
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post Sep 23 2014, 10:10 AM

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Since everyone is into orange peel removal now, let me give a lil bit of minor push too biggrin.gif

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Using velvet pad with compound via Dewalt rotary.
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post Sep 23 2014, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 10:07 AM)
thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  Nice thing, until now im able to get 2000 sand paper only. Where u get 2500k?
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Mine are Megs Unigrit, brought in by a friend coming back from the US loooooong time ago. Have you tried calling up Osren? I think they also have some good quality Nikkens and also others....
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post Sep 23 2014, 10:15 AM

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1st attempt at OP removal on scrapped Civic hood. Sanded with hardware shop sandpaper 1500 > 2000. Compound with Osren compound to remove sanding marks and finally polished. I suspect i removed quite a bit of clear coat in the process but since it's scrapped panel biggrin.gif

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post Sep 23 2014, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 10:07 AM)
THat Opti-Coat not sure what is it i saw the price tag, i need tie my stomach!  shocking.gif
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What's the current local price tag anyway? Oh...and there are other options..... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Sep 23 2014, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 09:51 AM)
Moving forward a few months...got myself some sanding disc and this time using an ROB....
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Literally transformed your ride into a moving mirror now notworthy.gif Mad respect man.
kalvinkhoo
post Sep 23 2014, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 10:12 AM)
Mine are Megs Unigrit, brought in by a friend coming back from the US loooooong time ago. Have you tried calling up Osren? I think they also have some good quality Nikkens and also others....
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Wow, i thought no one using Unigrit no dare to ask. But reading through other forums it sounds not that bad. I havent really expose to KL detailing industry like Osren and Opti yet im always in Meguirs. Maybe i should try calling up to get the sand paper. Need to touch up all this. shakehead.gif

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post Sep 23 2014, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 10:25 AM)
Wow, i thought no one using Unigrit no dare to ask. But reading through other forums it sounds not that bad. I havent really expose to KL detailing industry like Osren and Opti yet im always in Meguirs. Maybe i should try calling up to get the sand paper. Need to touch up all this.  shakehead.gif
Then you should give Osren a call or drop down at their place for a visit, very friendly folks over there. Megs may be superior in chemicals and abrasives, but Osren has quite an impressive line up of tools, cloths, accessories, etc. at very decent pricing.
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post Sep 23 2014, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 10:32 AM)
Then you should give Osren a call or drop down at their place for a visit, very friendly folks over there. Megs may be superior in chemicals and abrasives, but Osren has quite an impressive line up of tools, cloths, accessories, etc. at very decent pricing.
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Sounds cool, wanna drop meet up and drop by together? unsure.gif
But I like to ask a lot one leh me KIASU KIASU!
Oh yea my tools coming next month... Where can i get 3inch backing plate? So i can use the pad from the DA polisher! icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 23 2014, 10:44 AM

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Lol.. Pushing me to wetsand ya.. I rikeee.. How I wish I have the PTG so that I can monitor my CC condition.. (ayat mau pinjam PTG sweat.gif )


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I nubis also.. Just trying to use OPT product..

You stay around cheras IINM.. You can get Makita at roundabout taman muda.. Call Ms Yen from Soon Heng sdn bhd distributor for Makita - 03 4297 6898.. But the price as last time i checked RM890..

Where do you get 2000 sand paper?

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Fuuuu... Nice... drool.gif

I have velvet pad.. Is it easy to use?

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Wahlao.. now everyone pushing for sanding process.. you all make my hand itchy wehh..

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post Sep 23 2014, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 10:16 AM)
What's the current local price tag anyway? Oh...and there are other options..... whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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post Sep 23 2014, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 23 2014, 10:44 AM)
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Lol.. Pushing me to wetsand ya.. I rikeee.. How I wish I have the PTG so that I can monitor my CC condition.. (ayat mau pinjam PTG  sweat.gif  )
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I nubis also.. Just trying to use OPT product..

You stay around cheras IINM.. You can get Makita at roundabout taman muda.. Call Ms Yen from Soon Heng sdn bhd distributor for Makita - 03 4297 6898.. But the price as last time i checked RM890..

Where do you get 2000 sand paper?

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Fuuuu... Nice...  drool.gif

I have velvet pad.. Is it easy to use?

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Wahlao.. now everyone pushing for sanding process.. you all make my hand itchy wehh..
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Haha.. But OPT so expensive doh.gif doh.gif

I already order the Makita. Much cheaper! brows.gif

I get it from my friend who work in a maintainance company. U wan i can get for you but a bit exp. RM3.

By the way Velvet Pad cuts alot man i feel that... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif But i heart no doubt just to ask since the velvet pad cuts a lot can it cut orange peels?

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post Sep 23 2014, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 10:53 AM)
Haha.. But OPT so expensive  doh.gif  doh.gif

Depends on 'type' of washing you're looking for.. I'm looking into something fast and easy but able to clean thoroughly..

I already order the Makita. Much cheaper! brows.gif

Uik? where you get it? U might want to share as most of us are looking into makita if the price cheaper than others..
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I get it from my friend who work in a maintainance company. U wan i can get for you but a bit exp. RM3.

Right now still in 'thinking' mode..  rclxub.gif

By the way Velvet Pad cuts alot man i feel that...  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif But i heart no doubt just to ask since the velvet pad cuts a lot can it cut orange peels?

I've seen a lot of detailers use velvet pad to level OP.. 1 of the master told me that using sand paper 'easier to control' i/o velvet pad.. So I just keep my VP first..
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post Sep 23 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 23 2014, 10:44 AM)
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Lol.. Pushing me to wetsand ya.. I rikeee.. How I wish I have the PTG so that I can monitor my CC condition.. (ayat mau pinjam PTG  sweat.gif  )
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I nubis also.. Just trying to use OPT product..

You stay around cheras IINM.. You can get Makita at roundabout taman muda.. Call Ms Yen from Soon Heng sdn bhd distributor for Makita - 03 4297 6898.. But the price as last time i checked RM890..

Where do you get 2000 sand paper?

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Fuuuu... Nice...  drool.gif

I have velvet pad.. Is it easy to use?

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Wahlao.. now everyone pushing for sanding process.. you all make my hand itchy wehh..
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Hmm how to describe. Not as smooth as polishing the paint that's for sure. The velvet pad won't exactly glide smooth on the paint and the fact you need a steady and constantly moving the buffer and also evenly cover the entire panel. Mind you, the panel gets real hot after that. I'm on 1400rpm. For edge and corner, I switch to small 3" velvet pad and with the small pad, much more easier to control.
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post Sep 23 2014, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Sep 23 2014, 10:40 AM)
Sounds cool, wanna drop meet up and drop by together? unsure.gif
But I like to ask a lot one leh me KIASU KIASU!
Oh yea my tools coming next month... Where can i get 3inch backing plate? So i can use the pad from the DA polisher!  icon_idea.gif
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Just drop by there and look for Hendry. Sell my name if you want...and ask away. I've once brought one of the members here and we spend like around 2 hrs there...Q&A sessions....hahaha....

You should be able to get the 3" backing plate from them...they have Lake Country, Buff and Shine, etc.

QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 23 2014, 10:44 AM)
Lol.. Pushing me to wetsand ya.. I rikeee.. How I wish I have the PTG so that I can monitor my CC condition.. (ayat mau pinjam PTG  sweat.gif  )
No problem with that....but I need to find out who's holding on to it though....hahahah....

QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 23 2014, 10:52 AM)
you mean this?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

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Aiyo....that's paint la. I'm referring to other types of coating....like 22ple, Sonax, ArtDeShine, DG Nano Glass, etc. can now buy locally and DIY already....
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post Sep 23 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 11:02 AM)
Just drop by there and look for Hendry. Sell my name if you want...and ask away. I've once brought one of the members here and we spend like around 2 hrs there...Q&A sessions....hahaha....

You should be able to get the 3" backing plate from them...they have Lake Country, Buff and Shine, etc.
No problem with that....but I need to find out who's holding on to it though....hahahah....
Aiyo....that's paint la. I'm referring to other types of coating....like 22ple, Sonax, ArtDeShine, DG Nano Glass, etc. can now buy locally and DIY already....
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Sounds interesting eh. By gf sure bruce.gif moneyflies.gif bruce.gif !! so they bring Lake COuntry... INTERESTING! wub.gif
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post Sep 23 2014, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Sep 23 2014, 11:00 AM)
Hmm how to describe. Not as smooth as polishing the paint that's for sure. The velvet pad won't exactly glide smooth on the paint and the fact you need a steady and constantly moving the buffer and also evenly cover the entire panel. Mind you, the panel gets real hot after that. I'm on 1400rpm. For edge and corner, I switch to small 3" velvet pad and with the small pad, much more easier to control.
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Thanks for the feedback master..

QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 23 2014, 11:02 AM)
Aiyo....that's paint la. I'm referring to other types of coating....like 22ple, Sonax, ArtDeShine, DG Nano Glass, etc. can now buy locally and DIY already....
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Lol.. At first I was so shocked to see aeon selling this.. later only know it's different.. doh.gif

Master, may I know the 'durability' of all products you listed here?


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post Sep 23 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Sep 23 2014, 11:13 AM)
Master, may I know the 'durability' of all products you listed here?
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That's a very subjective and difficult question to answer......... sweat.gif sweat.gif

Just put it this way la...if properly maintained, all these coatings can easily go through the 1 year mark. I have the 22ple VX1 Pro on my current ride and it's still beading and sheeting cleanly after 2 1/2 years, but the horizontal panel barely scrape through the 2 yrs mark....though I blame that to the crazy haze and dry spell that we had early this year.

But these coatings aren't 'bullet proof' and they're also prone to water marks and wash marring. Although still beading and sheeting water very well, I can see swirls has developed on my car and soon, I'd need to remove the coating and re-apply. So, even if the coating do last very long, they aren't swirl/damage-proof. I'm of the opinion that people like us don't really need to spend money for something that can last 3 years, or 5 years or 'permanent' coatings. It's just an alternative to normal wax/sealant so as to provide a TEMPORARY protection for the paint. To me, the main advantage of these coatings is you don't need to re-apply them as often as normal wax/sealants. The thickness and hardness of the coatings also provide SOME advantage against normal wax/sealant but the main reason is what I've stated before.
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