Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V60, From A to E mount!
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 Sep 1 2014, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(themanwithnoname @ Sep 1 2014, 11:38 AM) Haha please dont. And im not assosiated anyway with Sony. yup. the incredible sharpness and high contrastAnd I hated sony systems before this, before the a6000. And still hated the others besides a6000 and the a7s  Can you feel the M-Soul inside?   |
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Sep 1 2014, 04:20 PM
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New a6000 user reporting in!
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Sep 1 2014, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(The 1 Coward @ Sep 1 2014, 04:20 PM) New a6000 user reporting in! Congrates. Welcome to the future. Hahahanyway, what lens are you using? CZ ? Pos some pics! |
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Sep 1 2014, 05:55 PM
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Sep 1 2014, 07:54 PM
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Sep 1 2014, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(magicalass @ Aug 31 2014, 09:27 PM) sifus, any tips on choosing a good tripod ? I have the Q999s which is the most compact version when folded up. The rest is similar.height about photographer's height, shud be rather heavy to prevent shake ( about how heavy? for a6000 ) anybody tried these https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3332150 ? This tripod is very stable when open up, compare to other brand tripod that i tested. and it is very light and compact. I would say value for money for budget users.  |
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Sep 1 2014, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 30 2014, 10:42 PM) The 1.8/24Z... Mmmmmm. Thanks dude!Somebody selling second hand over at Photomalaysia. 2.6-ish-k if I'm not mistaken. Still in production I think. To A6k users, mind sharing your experience on it's low light high ISO performance? I'm actually planning to downgrade (again) after finishing up all my responsibilities that would be better done with my full frame d600 + 35 1.4 ART currently and I was thinking of getting a combo that will save me some money. I realized that I was spending far too much money on a hobby that I will probably not have alot of time for as I grow older. I know that a Fuji system will probably have better ISO performance (I used to own a XT1 + 23mm 1.4 and 56mm 1.2 at one point, got it at a crazy good price), but after trying out many fuji's, I never grew to like the image quality it produced. I'm pretty sure I'm quite alone in saying this, but I feel like fuji pictures (esp their raw files) tend to be more mushy. After comparing flickr pictures (no pixel peeping though) of the CZ 24mm 1.8 and the fuji 23mm 1.4, I'm pretty sure that I personally prefer the pictures produced by the CZ. With that being said, I'm also considering a second hand a7 and 35mm f28 combo; which is basically a full frame version of a6k and the 24mm 1.8. My big question is this: How much advantage does the full frame a7 sensor have over the a6k; no doubt a big advantage, but how much? The thing is that because 1.8 on the a6k will give me the DoF equivalent of the 35mm f2.8 on the a7, BUT will let in more light (nearly one stop worth of extra light?). So I was thinking if this would be a good trade off since lets say that the ISO 6400 of the A7 is equivalent to ISO 3200 on the a6k, then it would be a good trade off (the only advantage the a7 has now then, would be the extra dynamic range), but I get to save at least RM1.5k going for the a6k. And I only plan to use one lens most of the time (which is a 35mm equivalent)... Any thoughts? |
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Sep 1 2014, 08:46 PM
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Does anyone of you use L-Plate for their nex? Do you know where to get it locally especially for nex6?
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Sep 1 2014, 10:33 PM
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can a6000 do panorama shot?
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Sep 2 2014, 12:17 AM
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Me no pro but just want to share a random photo.
 DSC01399 by kizwan.chronos, on FlickrThis post has been edited by kizwan: Sep 2 2014, 12:19 AM |
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Sep 2 2014, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Sep 1 2014, 10:33 PM) can a6000 do panorama shot? can ya... |
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Sep 2 2014, 12:43 AM
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i wan ask how to shoot slo mo video on a6000
i see review from thecamerastore tv, they can shoot slo-mo in 1080p 60p, half speed is it if my frame rate put 60, i hv to my shutter speed to 1/120 and above? i go google the method, tried it but no slow down of the video  |
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Sep 2 2014, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(DonDropUrSoap @ Sep 2 2014, 12:43 AM) i wan ask how to shoot slo mo video on a6000 The way I'd done it is by recording @1080p 60p then using video editor like Adobe Premier, slow down the video to 40%. Then you'll get nice slo-mo video.i see review from thecamerastore tv, they can shoot slo-mo in 1080p 60p, half speed is it if my frame rate put 60, i hv to my shutter speed to 1/120 and above? i go google the method, tried it but no slow down of the video This post has been edited by kizwan: Sep 2 2014, 12:52 AM |
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Sep 2 2014, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE(Decky @ Sep 1 2014, 08:30 PM) Thanks dude! dont we all overspend on this crazy hobby? haha~ buy and sold XE1+35F1.4... was fun and crazy to play natural light on high iso, but the AF drives me crazy...To A6k users, mind sharing your experience on it's low light high ISO performance? I'm actually planning to downgrade (again) after finishing up all my responsibilities that would be better done with my full frame d600 + 35 1.4 ART currently and I was thinking of getting a combo that will save me some money. I realized that I was spending far too much money on a hobby that I will probably not have alot of time for as I grow older. I know that a Fuji system will probably have better ISO performance (I used to own a XT1 + 23mm 1.4 and 56mm 1.2 at one point, got it at a crazy good price), but after trying out many fuji's, I never grew to like the image quality it produced. I'm pretty sure I'm quite alone in saying this, but I feel like fuji pictures (esp their raw files) tend to be more mushy. After comparing flickr pictures (no pixel peeping though) of the CZ 24mm 1.8 and the fuji 23mm 1.4, I'm pretty sure that I personally prefer the pictures produced by the CZ. With that being said, I'm also considering a second hand a7 and 35mm f28 combo; which is basically a full frame version of a6k and the 24mm 1.8. My big question is this: How much advantage does the full frame a7 sensor have over the a6k; no doubt a big advantage, but how much? The thing is that because 1.8 on the a6k will give me the DoF equivalent of the 35mm f2.8 on the a7, BUT will let in more light (nearly one stop worth of extra light?). So I was thinking if this would be a good trade off since lets say that the ISO 6400 of the A7 is equivalent to ISO 3200 on the a6k, then it would be a good trade off (the only advantage the a7 has now then, would be the extra dynamic range), but I get to save at least RM1.5k going for the a6k. And I only plan to use one lens most of the time (which is a 35mm equivalent)... Any thoughts? here's my 2 cent. if you think fuji are mushy, Sony NR are even more mushy. the CZ vs fuji is 'give and take', CZ is known for their micro contrast, give details in gradient area, but in return, u get a much noisier look on high iso (end up mushy from NR). where fuji are very good in lowlight and good iso handling, in return they take away the contrast and making it pretty flat tone. but jump FF to FF wont save you money, they will make you spend as much as any other FF system. the camera body may be cheaper, but all the lens are still drills a big hold in your wallet. even the way you said "equivalent" from the comparison between the two body/lens combo arent fair at all. both totally different thing, giving diff angle of view, although give you nearly the same field of view. but if you asked directly A7+35F2.8 vs A6000+24F1.8. i'd say, spend less with A6k+24z and use the left over for a family trip/or solo backpack and snap more nice photo. you enjoy more with money spend on traveling then buying expensive gears.  |
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Sep 2 2014, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(themanwithnoname @ Sep 1 2014, 11:38 AM) Haha please dont. And im not assosiated anyway with Sony. oh wow this is 1 great shot And I hated sony systems before this, before the a6000. And still hated the others besides a6000 and the a7s Thanks for fixing. LoL Can you feel the M-Soul inside? |
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Sep 2 2014, 02:55 AM
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The XE2/XT1 can be even mushier than the XE1 actually - it applies NR to RAWs and there's no way to turn it off lol. Google "XE2 plastic skin" and you'll know what I mean.
As for FE vs E, I do agree with edpaul. The rest is gonna be TL;DR, so here goes... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « In the end, nothing beats going to a shop and actually holding the cameras. In my case it actually helped solve my Fuji vs Sony issue last time - holding the Fuji felt huge in my hands lol... so Sony it is. So, hold and test the A7 against the A6k at a Sony shop somewhere. Sometimes the *feel* of it might just tip the favour. That said, I do hope that some juicy new stuff gets announced at Photokina for us APS-C guys. Glass Sony... glassssss! Like maybe a tiny compact 18-35 f2.8? Please? This post has been edited by Eiraku: Sep 2 2014, 03:39 AM |
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Sep 2 2014, 04:30 AM
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QUOTE(Decky @ Sep 1 2014, 08:30 PM) Thanks dude! I think the major differences of APS-C and FF IQ is a slightly richer color with better DR (dynamic range) especially at ISO above 1000. I don't really think DOF should be a concern since we can always find relative glass to overcome this "issue". For high ISO alone, I'd say A7 may give you about 1-1.5 stop advantage on color/DR/noise quality. Anyhow, I actually prefer APS-C system, for the sake of its crop factor that is an advantage for me. I can get smaller tele lens and lighter large aperture lens. I am not a wide angle guy, so 24mm is more then enough for me. I don't need to go FF just for the sake of getting that super wide angle shot. For general use, I really don't see most people can notice any difference on IQ between APS-C and FF. If you go for A6000, just try to shoot below ISO 1600 and IQ is fantastic. By using the kit lens 16-50 with OSS on, you can shoot with shutter speed as low as 1/25 and get a sharp image without pushing up the ISO too much. I personally shot some even at 1/15 handheld and still able to get sharp image with very nice DR at below ISO 1000.To A6k users, mind sharing your experience on it's low light high ISO performance? I'm actually planning to downgrade (again) after finishing up all my responsibilities that would be better done with my full frame d600 + 35 1.4 ART currently and I was thinking of getting a combo that will save me some money. I realized that I was spending far too much money on a hobby that I will probably not have alot of time for as I grow older. I know that a Fuji system will probably have better ISO performance (I used to own a XT1 + 23mm 1.4 and 56mm 1.2 at one point, got it at a crazy good price), but after trying out many fuji's, I never grew to like the image quality it produced. I'm pretty sure I'm quite alone in saying this, but I feel like fuji pictures (esp their raw files) tend to be more mushy. After comparing flickr pictures (no pixel peeping though) of the CZ 24mm 1.8 and the fuji 23mm 1.4, I'm pretty sure that I personally prefer the pictures produced by the CZ. With that being said, I'm also considering a second hand a7 and 35mm f28 combo; which is basically a full frame version of a6k and the 24mm 1.8. My big question is this: How much advantage does the full frame a7 sensor have over the a6k; no doubt a big advantage, but how much? The thing is that because 1.8 on the a6k will give me the DoF equivalent of the 35mm f2.8 on the a7, BUT will let in more light (nearly one stop worth of extra light?). So I was thinking if this would be a good trade off since lets say that the ISO 6400 of the A7 is equivalent to ISO 3200 on the a6k, then it would be a good trade off (the only advantage the a7 has now then, would be the extra dynamic range), but I get to save at least RM1.5k going for the a6k. And I only plan to use one lens most of the time (which is a 35mm equivalent)... Any thoughts? |
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Sep 2 2014, 04:35 AM
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QUOTE(DonDropUrSoap @ Sep 2 2014, 12:43 AM) i wan ask how to shoot slo mo video on a6000 for video, just remember this 2x rule in order to get the best (natural) looking motion blur.i see review from thecamerastore tv, they can shoot slo-mo in 1080p 60p, half speed is it if my frame rate put 60, i hv to my shutter speed to 1/120 and above? i go google the method, tried it but no slow down of the video shoot 25p, use 1/50 shutter. shoot 50p, use 1/100 shutter. if you want special effect, you can try shoot slower or faster shutter, experience it yourself and you will see the effect. to do slow-mo, use slower frame rate at editing software. ie: footage shot with 50p in Adobe Premier, create a timeline with 25p, and then click on the clip and applies "interpret footage"->25 fps (frame per second). now drag the clip to the timeline and play, you can see silky smooth half speed slow-mo video. good luck playing. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 2 2014, 04:37 AM |
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Sep 2 2014, 04:40 AM
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QUOTE(themanwithnoname @ Sep 1 2014, 11:38 AM) Haha please dont. And im not assosiated anyway with Sony. I still hate Sony system for their focus-by-wire that goes "auto" with different speed! (turn faster, focus moving faster etc)And I hated sony systems before this, before the a6000. And still hated the others besides a6000 and the a7s Just give me an option to do manual focus with ONE CONSTANT SPEED!! Then I'll be a VERY HAPPY Sony user! Since I can have the fastest AF + usable MF when needed on one lens (E mount). Frequent changing lens (from E mount to non-E) is out of my scope, too troublesome as I mostly do run and gun shoot.  This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 2 2014, 04:44 AM |
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Sep 2 2014, 05:08 AM
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 2 2014, 02:55 AM) The XE2/XT1 can be even mushier than the XE1 actually - it applies NR to RAWs and there's no way to turn it off lol. Google "XE2 plastic skin" and you'll know what I mean. oh, didnt know that... nowonder so many ppl still looking for XE1, a little regret selling it off... kinda miss high iso shots.. |
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