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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V60, From A to E mount!

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post Sep 2 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(babyploy86 @ Sep 2 2014, 10:48 PM)
Sony just did the un-believable stunt ... QX-1
How would it change the dslr/alpha norm...
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I like the idea, can finally put my kit lens to use while using prime lens on other body
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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Sep 2 2014, 11:26 PM)
I like the idea, can finally put my kit lens to use while using prime lens on other body
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It only has the A5000 sensor so not really as serious a tool as we expected it to be - more of a normal daily snap shooter. It will NOT have the A6k or the A5.1k AF performance, and WIFI control and transfer is always slower than direct.

But it WILL be tiny, so that's that.

Mmmmm, new SEL1635ZF4 FE-mount coming, estimated price 6k. New E-mount stuff nowhere to be seen. I cry nao.

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post Sep 3 2014, 02:42 AM

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My friend's A6000 has an issue. After setting the "Pre-AF" (autofocus before half-press shutter button) to on, it still won't do pre-AF in all modes except the movie mode. I tried it on my A7S and it works. Any idea what's going on? Any other settings that may cause this issue? Thanks!

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post Sep 3 2014, 11:32 AM

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A77 + 1650 + F42 combo

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post Sep 3 2014, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 3 2014, 12:16 AM)
It only has the A5000 sensor so not really as serious a tool as we expected it to be - more of a normal daily snap shooter. It will NOT have the A6k or the A5.1k AF performance, and WIFI control and transfer is always slower than direct.

But it WILL be tiny, so that's that.

Mmmmm, new SEL1635ZF4 FE-mount coming, estimated price 6k. New E-mount stuff nowhere to be seen. I cry nao.
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I thought it says a6k's sensor.

http://petapixel.com/2014/09/02/leaked-son...e-mount-lenses/
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QUOTE(bdrc @ Sep 3 2014, 12:00 PM)
Nope.

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Courtesy of SonyAlphaRumors.com... which is Petapixel source to begin with.

Besides, it doesn't make sense to put your latest and greatest in a niche product anyway - it would certainly drive the price up above the reach of their intended audience (which, TBH, I'm not even sure who they are).

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post Sep 3 2014, 12:35 PM

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so saddddd its not A6k 24mp sensor... what a turn down. it can be best seller if its the A6k 24mp.... it will outsold everycamera in the market~ lol but now, the old 20mp which is a lot noisier then 24mp in 6400iso, what a turn off sad.gif
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Sep 3 2014, 12:35 PM)
so saddddd its not A6k 24mp sensor... what a turn down. it can be best seller if its the A6k 24mp.... it will outsold everycamera in the market~ lol but now, the old 20mp which is a lot noisier then 24mp in 6400iso, what a turn off sad.gif
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It will have its market. For one my significant other has already expressed interest for this to replace (or al least augment) her traditional DSLR. Whether or not the local pricing will be good enough remains to be seen though.

As a backup camera that is compatible with most of your lenses and can fit a tiny lens case itself, the potential is clear. Just how laggy the controls will be is the possible issue here.

Personally I'm totally sold if the A6k can slave it... which is unlikely.

What I do hope though is that it is enough of a hit that Sony would seriously consider creating more decent APS-C glass again for it and (by extension) the rest of us APS-C shooters.

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you have to think out of the box. Professional videography may consider this.... imagive this small thing on a simple light rig, weight affect the stablility.

everything else is remote. mic remote controller and codec to a sound box. remote LCD display... w00t! this camera can go places other cam cant ever dare to think off. (aside gopro/actioncams)...

for the price, i think its a winner for a lot of serious video maker.
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Now it would be sweet if they could get the PMW-F55's global shutter sensor and add the A7S' electronic second curtain (Silent Shutter) - then you'd have perfect Silent Shutter without skewing and flourescent light bands. But then the QX isn't in that market.

The A7S, despite having Silent Shutter on, reverts to mechanical second curtain when using Wi-Fi to trigger remotely (unless you take a screenshot on your smartphone, which might be quieter.)
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Sep 3 2014, 01:04 PM)
you have to think out of the box. Professional videography may consider this.... imagive this small thing on a simple light rig, weight affect the stablility.

everything else is remote. mic remote controller and codec to a sound box. remote LCD display... w00t! this camera can go places other cam cant ever dare to think off. (aside gopro/actioncams)...

for the price, i think its a winner for a lot of serious video maker.
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Like I said we'll before, it is what it is to appeal to its target market. I agree there will be numerous niche applications for it, but that will not be what it's designed for.

But, necessity is the mother of all inventions so it's only time before this makes it into all sorts of wonderful setups owing it's tiny size - especially for video, as you said. Even *with* all it inherent limitations.

I mean, given enough disposable funds, I'd want one.

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Im looking for 16 mm before getting my real wide angle lens soon.. anyone tired of their 16mm can sell em to me tongue.gif
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C&C welcomed:

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with NEX-6 SELP1650 kitlens.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 3 2014, 02:34 PM)
Like I said we'll before, it is what it is to appeal to its target market. I agree there will be numerous niche applications for it, but that will not be what it's designed for.

But, necessity is the mother of all inventions so it's only time before this makes it into all sorts of wonderful setups owing it's tiny size - especially for video, as you said. Even *with* all it inherent limitations.

I mean, given enough disposable funds, I'd want one.
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Fulamak.... u so active in here nowadays.... since when u went orange...?? brows.gif brows.gif


Question for sifus here.... RX100MK2 or A6000 used...

I know there is MK3, but i no mony....
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QUOTE(bdrc @ Sep 3 2014, 05:34 PM)
C&C welcomed:

user posted imageDSC03200 by bdrc, on Flickr

with NEX-6 SELP1650 kitlens.
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SOOC like that one ka?? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(hazril @ Sep 3 2014, 05:41 PM)
SOOC like that one ka?? shocking.gif
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Obviously not, lolz. It is two shots taken at same place, one with subject one without, then a few extra layers to bring out the light and warm colours.

SooC is this by the way:

user posted imageDSC02864 by bdrc, on Flickr

NEX-6 and Vivitar 135mm f/2.8
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 3 2014, 05:38 PM)
Fulamak.... u so active in here nowadays.... since when u went orange...??  brows.gif  brows.gif
Question for sifus here.... RX100MK2 or A6000 used...

I know there is MK3, but i no mony....
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I orange since A200 days edi unker... 2009 ey.

Now back to orange of kos.

As for RX100MK2 vs A6000, depends. Mobility of course RX100MK2 wins. Cheaper too.

But if you can afford the extra dough the RX1... ehem... A6000 + SEL20F28 is darned tiny for what it is. And it's pretty easy to use too, especially with the AF performance as it is right now.

But used A6000 a bit hard to find. But new asso below 2k can get edi lor (body oni).

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 3 2014, 02:42 AM)
My friend's A6000 has an issue. After setting the "Pre-AF" (autofocus before half-press shutter button) to on, it still won't do pre-AF in all modes except the movie mode. I tried it on my A7S and it works. Any idea what's going on? Any other settings that may cause this issue? Thanks!
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Any chances the focus mode was on MF instead of the others? hmm.gif

I turn that Pre-AF off as it's kinda annoying the camera keeps on refocusing everytime. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Sep 3 2014, 06:02 PM)
Any chances the focus mode was on MF instead of the others? hmm.gif

I turn that Pre-AF off as it's kinda annoying the camera keeps on refocusing everytime. tongue.gif
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*Finds setting and turns it off*

No wonder my camera likes to focus on all sorts of random stuff.
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post Sep 3 2014, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Sep 3 2014, 06:02 PM)
Any chances the focus mode was on MF instead of the others? hmm.gif

I turn that Pre-AF off as it's kinda annoying the camera keeps on refocusing everytime. tongue.gif
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The settings is "S" (shutter priority), AF-C, Wide focus area. Do you all have no such problem? So the camera is already malfunctioning just after 2 months....hmm.... sad.gif

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