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TSkitfoong2752
post Jun 12 2014, 11:09 AM, updated 11y ago

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ME...

been eating a lot and a lot, still not gaining any weight.. i mean like from 55 to 56kg after taking so much mass gainer and whey? c'mon.. im sad... sad.gif sad.gif

any SUPER suggestion? muscle guy? sad.gif cry.gif
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post Jun 12 2014, 11:12 AM

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my weight 49kg height 168cm. give up already. prefer to be skeleton king now...
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post Jun 12 2014, 11:15 AM

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god man...... i've consumed tons of mass gainer (its disgusting) and still the same hahah.. but i did go to the gym and gain quite nice muscle.. but not my weight.. sad.gif
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post Jun 12 2014, 11:15 AM

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Listen to me. Eat 6 times a day. Thats it. 3 real meals, 3 snack. Dont believe it? Try for one month. Just F do it. This is the way. Dont tell me its imposible unless you try this..
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post Jun 12 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 12 2014, 11:15 AM)
god man...... i've consumed tons of mass gainer (its disgusting) and still the same hahah.. but i did go to the gym and gain quite nice muscle.. but not my weight.. sad.gif
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walao y me so fast gain weight from 55 to 66 kg mad.gif mad.gif

now everybody said me like a 'father' already mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
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post Jun 12 2014, 11:23 AM

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same here... im 170 weight 45, mass gainer ON, around 1 month, gym a little, now around 49 if not wrong... look a bit thick maybe.... chest hand at least... train my butt now.... xD
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post Jun 12 2014, 11:59 AM

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For those claiming they are skinny, try calculate your TDEE and eat at 10-20% surplus.

Try to track CORRECTLY your calorie intake for 1 week. You will realise your many many many food isn't even half of my portion. Try to include peanut butter and milk into your meal if you can take it.

@Izz96, meal frequency doesn't affect your weight at all. The only reason it work for you might be due to your appetite. You can't consume much food at once, so you try to break it into smaller meal.
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post Jun 12 2014, 12:02 PM

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Lol this is a very common comment i see from skinny people , the problem is u aint eating enough . Show us ur meal plan ?
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post Jun 12 2014, 12:36 PM

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Yeah @kshen buddy, i usually skip my breakfast but im trying to eat twice during afternoon.. Rice? Rice and rice.. Snacks are waffle (peanut butter).. Egg sandwiches.. Even supper.. Burger ayam special with cheese.. Still the same.. Even my stomach aint got bigger.. Hahah.. sad.gif
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post Jun 12 2014, 01:06 PM

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Lol how long have u been doing this ? Perhaps give us the exact amount u eat , like maybe one cup of rice , 200g of chicken ,etc..
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post Jun 12 2014, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(kshen @ Jun 12 2014, 01:06 PM)
Lol how long have u been doing this ? Perhaps give us the exact amount u eat , like maybe one cup of rice , 200g of chicken ,etc..
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how long ar..? hmm.gif cant really tell how long i've been doing that.. aww..
rice? a bowl of regular size rice.. sometimes add another small rice if i have to skip my breakfast..
for da supper sometimes 1 ayam and 1 beef special haha....

that's the meal plan i've been practicing since the day i stop taking mass gainer.. cause not effective.. i've tried serious mass 2 packs, dymatize supermass 2 packs and 1 last pack was true mass and its really disgusting haha...
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 12 2014, 01:56 PM)
how long ar..?  hmm.gif cant really tell how long i've been doing that.. aww..
rice? a bowl of regular size rice.. sometimes add another small rice if i have to skip my breakfast..
for da supper sometimes 1 ayam and 1 beef special haha....

that's the meal plan i've been practicing since the day i stop taking mass gainer.. cause not effective.. i've tried serious mass 2 packs, dymatize supermass 2 packs and 1 last pack was true mass and its really disgusting haha...
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instead of mass gainer, go buy pediasure, drink 10-12oz each serving, prepare according to instruction, drink 3-4 times a day on top of your usual regular meals......... try one month and report back......
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 12 2014, 01:56 PM)
how long ar..?  hmm.gif cant really tell how long i've been doing that.. aww..
rice? a bowl of regular size rice.. sometimes add another small rice if i have to skip my breakfast..
for da supper sometimes 1 ayam and 1 beef special haha....

that's the meal plan i've been practicing since the day i stop taking mass gainer.. cause not effective.. i've tried serious mass 2 packs, dymatize supermass 2 packs and 1 last pack was true mass and its really disgusting haha...
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Use myfitnesspal track all the food you took. And come back tell us how much is that total calorie. Be honest in tracking all the food. Don't eat 1 drumstick and record you ate whole chicken. Be consistent also. Don't eat 3000kcal a day and eat 1500 kcal another day and claiming you cant gain weight.

Diet is all about consistency. If you need to consume 2500kcal a day, then eat 2500 kcal everyday.

And trust me, don't go for any "secret remedies" or whatever supplement until you are clear about basic nutrition knowledge. Learn what is BMR, TDEE, surplus, deficit, macros. Then use ONLY whole food to reach your target calorie. If you have problem in hitting several macros like protein, then only you try to consider take some protein supplement. (This is ONLY after you learned and tried all the basic knowledge)

This post has been edited by -ccy-: Jun 12 2014, 02:10 PM
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post Jun 12 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(-ccy- @ Jun 12 2014, 02:06 PM)
Use myfitnesspal track all the food you took. And come back tell us how much is that total calorie. Be honest in tracking all the food. Don't eat 1 drumstick and record you ate whole chicken. Be consistent also. Don't eat 3000kcal a day and eat 1500 kcal another day and claiming you cant gain weight.

Diet is all about consistency. If you need to consume 2500kcal a day, then eat 2500 kcal everyday.

And trust me, don't go for any "secret remedies" or whatever supplement until you are clear about basic nutrition knowledge. Learn what is BMR, TDEE, surplus, deficit, macros. Then use ONLY whole food to reach your target calorie. If you have problem in hitting several macros like protein, then only you try to consider take some protein supplement. (This is ONLY after you learned and tried all the basic knowledge)
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 12 2014, 01:56 PM)
how long ar..?  hmm.gif cant really tell how long i've been doing that.. aww..
rice? a bowl of regular size rice.. sometimes add another small rice if i have to skip my breakfast..
for da supper sometimes 1 ayam and 1 beef special haha....

that's the meal plan i've been practicing since the day i stop taking mass gainer.. cause not effective.. i've tried serious mass 2 packs, dymatize supermass 2 packs and 1 last pack was true mass and its really disgusting haha...
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garbage..

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post Jun 12 2014, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 12 2014, 11:09 AM)
ME...

been eating a lot and a lot, still not gaining any weight.. i mean like from 55 to 56kg after taking so much mass gainer and whey? c'mon.. im sad...  sad.gif  sad.gif

any SUPER suggestion? muscle guy? sad.gif  cry.gif
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i feel you mang..accept who you..people keep saying you'll eventually gain weight after you marry..people say

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post Jun 12 2014, 10:05 PM

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listen to ccy. thread can close
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post Jun 13 2014, 10:31 AM

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Ditch those mass gainer. Eat real food kao kao. List down what you eat and we can comment. My cat might eat more than you. There is no way one cannot gain weight if he/ she is eating enough.
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post Jun 13 2014, 10:38 AM

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u need to marry

only married ppl gain weight fast, that i heard alot happy.gif
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post Jun 13 2014, 10:40 AM

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Yes, i've ditched those mass gainers and substitute them with protein whey etc.. more effective.

Eat more but healthier, and constant workout. If i can, so can u.

I'm 175cm = 5'10" tall.

Jan 2014 = 50 kg (pants size 30)
June 2014 = 60~65 kg (pants 32) tongue.gif nih gainer punya psal ler..
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post Jun 13 2014, 02:40 PM

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I just take normal food like mixed rice, chicken rice, spaghetti, grilled chicken chop, sweet potato, mash potato, white egg mixed with whole grain bread and take whey protein mixed with oats for post workout. I gain from 60kg to 72kg in a month smile.gif
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QUOTE(bad_khui @ Jun 13 2014, 02:40 PM)
I just take normal food like mixed rice, chicken rice, spaghetti, grilled chicken chop, sweet potato, mash potato, white egg mixed with whole grain bread and take whey protein mixed with oats for post workout. I gain from 60kg to 72kg in a month smile.gif
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pretty good weight replacement meal u have there!
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post Jun 13 2014, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 13 2014, 02:43 PM)
pretty good weight replacement meal u have there!
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I just had double chicken rice for my lunch. Tonight, I will gonna hit my chest cukup2
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QUOTE(bad_khui @ Jun 13 2014, 02:40 PM)
I just take normal food like mixed rice, chicken rice, spaghetti, grilled chicken chop, sweet potato, mash potato, white egg mixed with whole grain bread and take whey protein mixed with oats for post workout. I gain from 60kg to 72kg in a month smile.gif
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Better slow down your weight gain. 1-2kg per month seems more ideal for me. 12kg in a month, I would say you gain mostly fat and water weight. Food choice is ok as long as you calculate your macro.
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post Jun 13 2014, 05:18 PM

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I don't believe you cannot gain weight with 4000-5000 calories a day.


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post Jun 13 2014, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(-ccy- @ Jun 13 2014, 04:29 PM)
Better slow down your weight gain. 1-2kg per month seems more ideal for me. 12kg in a month, I would say you gain mostly fat and water weight. Food choice is ok as long as you calculate your macro.
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No worries Bro, my fat percentage is around 9% only biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 12 2014, 11:09 AM)
ME...

been eating a lot and a lot, still not gaining any weight.. i mean like from 55 to 56kg after taking so much mass gainer and whey? c'mon.. im sad...  sad.gif  sad.gif

any SUPER suggestion? muscle guy? sad.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 12 2014, 12:36 PM)
Yeah @kshen buddy, i usually skip my breakfast but im trying to eat twice during afternoon.. Rice? Rice and rice.. Snacks are waffle (peanut butter).. Egg sandwiches.. Even supper.. Burger ayam special with cheese.. Still the same.. Even my stomach aint got bigger.. Hahah.. sad.gif
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post Jun 13 2014, 06:48 PM

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sad.gif sad.gif any suggest for my breakfast? ahaha.. that is the only problem im having now.. don really have much time preparing myself a proper breakfast.. i knw that is not an excuse right.. probably any1 of you will ask me to wake up earlier AHAHA.......
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 12 2014, 11:09 AM)
ME...

been eating a lot and a lot, still not gaining any weight.. i mean like from 55 to 56kg after taking so much mass gainer and whey? c'mon.. im sad...  sad.gif  sad.gif

any SUPER suggestion? muscle guy? sad.gif  cry.gif
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forever alone or married yet?

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post Jun 13 2014, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Jun 13 2014, 06:51 PM)
forever alone or married yet?

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prefer to be forever alone bro.. hahaha!!!!
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 13 2014, 07:48 PM)
sad.gif sad.gif any suggest for my breakfast? ahaha.. that is the only problem im having now.. don really have much time preparing myself a proper breakfast.. i knw that is not an excuse right.. probably any1 of you will ask me to wake up earlier AHAHA.......
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Eggs, oats, roti, milk, cereal, apple, banana, peanut butter, whey protein and many more.
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post Jun 14 2014, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(fas29 @ Jun 13 2014, 10:41 PM)
Eggs, oats, roti, milk, cereal, apple, banana, peanut butter, whey protein and many more.
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so basically.. 2 hard boiled eggs, whey protein + full cream milk for my breakfast.. any add-on?! haha biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 14 2014, 10:31 AM)
so basically.. 2 hard boiled eggs, whey protein + full cream milk for my breakfast.. any add-on?! haha biggrin.gif
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as long as you meet your daily macros you'll be fine. no need to add on.
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 14 2014, 11:31 AM)
so basically.. 2 hard boiled eggs, whey protein + full cream milk for my breakfast.. any add-on?! haha biggrin.gif
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Not enough. 3 hard boiled, 2 whole meal bread, full cream milk, 1 or 2 scoops of whey protein and a banana. wink.gif
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post Jun 14 2014, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(fas29 @ Jun 14 2014, 07:53 PM)
Not enough. 3 hard boiled, 2 whole meal bread, full cream milk, 1 or 2 scoops of whey protein and a banana.  wink.gif
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any alternative for banana buddy? hehehe.....
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 14 2014, 09:15 PM)
any alternative for banana buddy? hehehe.....
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Apple
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QUOTE(fas29 @ Jun 14 2014, 11:25 PM)
Apple
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thanks bro! will probably eat according to what you mention above.. notworthy.gif
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i used to be a skinny guy last year
height is 181cm

initial weight is ~63-64kg when i started bulking up.

6 meals per day
i drink mass gainer ONLY if im busy with my work and not enough time to eat proper food
hit the gym 4-5 days a week.
today im standing at 78kg, the heaviest i have ever been in my whole life.
trust me, you can do it. with proper diet and training. smile.gif

now im worried coz puasa is coming. last year i lose 4kg after puasa month sweat.gif
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QUOTE(s3polZ @ Jun 17 2014, 12:52 PM)
i used to be a skinny guy last year
height is 181cm

initial weight is ~63-64kg when i started bulking up.

6 meals per day
i drink mass gainer ONLY if im busy with my work and not enough time to eat proper food
hit the gym 4-5 days a week.
today im standing at 78kg, the heaviest i have ever been in my whole life.
trust me, you can do it. with proper diet and training.  smile.gif

now im worried coz puasa is coming. last year i lose 4kg after puasa month  sweat.gif
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6 meals? mind sharing your meal plan? hahah....
now i've jz started to eat more by waking up early to prepare my breakfast.. doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 18 2014, 01:25 PM)
6 meals? mind sharing your meal plan? hahah....
now i've jz started to eat more by waking up early to prepare my breakfast..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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err actually my meal plan is not that proper food la, shy to share. blush.gif
anyway, here it is tl;dr version

meal 1 (7am) : 5 half-boiled eggs (whole egg) + 2 gardenia bread / 2 bananas + plain water

[optional meal - if my colleagues ajak makan biggrin.gif ] : roti canai + teh tarik kurang manis

meal 2 (10.30am) : gardenia white bread 4 slices + 3in1 milo + 5tbsp quaker oats

meal 3 (1pm) : white rice + fried chicken + some veges

meal 4 : (4pm) : gardenia white bread 4 slices + 3in1 milo + 5tbsp quaker oats

meal 5 - preworkout snacks (7pm): 2-3 bananas + black coffee
(not sure if this is a proper pre-workout meal or not, but yeah, im a poor man. you can try hyphy mud by Kali Muscle. mix instant coffee with pepsi. do not expect a good taste on ur tongue. biggrin.gif )

8pm - 9.30pm : workout session

meal 6 (10pm) : white rice with whatever things cooked by mom smile.gif

meal 7 - (optional- before sleep) : some crackers with peanut butters + plain water



so, thats it.
i am still searching what kind of meals that suits me best. since im working as programmer, spending time at the desk most of the time, sometime there is not enough time to have my snacks. and there is where your mass gainer comes in handy.

i didnt rely much on my mass gainer, only took it when i dont have enough time to eat.



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post Jun 18 2014, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(s3polZ @ Jun 18 2014, 02:21 PM)
err actually my meal plan is not that proper food la, shy to share.  blush.gif
anyway, here it is tl;dr version

meal 1 (7am) : 5 half-boiled eggs (whole egg) + 2 gardenia bread / 2 bananas + plain water

[optional meal - if my colleagues ajak makan  biggrin.gif  ] : roti canai + teh tarik kurang manis

meal 2 (10.30am) :  gardenia white bread 4 slices + 3in1 milo + 5tbsp quaker oats

meal 3 (1pm) : white rice + fried chicken + some veges

meal 4 : (4pm) : gardenia white bread 4 slices + 3in1 milo + 5tbsp quaker oats

meal 5 - preworkout snacks (7pm): 2-3 bananas + black coffee
(not sure if this is a proper pre-workout meal or not, but yeah, im a poor man. you can try hyphy mud by Kali Muscle. mix instant coffee with pepsi. do not expect a good taste on ur tongue.  biggrin.gif  )

8pm - 9.30pm : workout session

meal 6 (10pm) : white rice with whatever things cooked by mom smile.gif

meal 7 - (optional- before sleep) : some crackers with peanut butters + plain water
so, thats it.
i am still searching what kind of meals that suits me best. since im working as programmer, spending time at the desk most of the time, sometime there is not enough time to have my snacks. and there is where your mass gainer comes in handy.

i didnt rely much on my mass gainer, only took it when i dont have enough time to eat.
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wow programmer.. interested to know what kind of programmer r u? hehe biggrin.gif

btw.. 5 half-boiled WHOLE EGGS?! WOW.... IM AFRAID OF SO MUCH EGGS WITH YORK.. egg white is fine but egg york too? wouldnt we have high cholesterol level in the future? shocking.gif shocking.gif
my parents said only 3 maximum whole eggs to be consumed in a day.. i donno lahh whether its true or not.. haha
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wow programmer.. interested to know what kind of programmer r u? hehe  biggrin.gif

btw.. 5 half-boiled WHOLE EGGS?! WOW.... IM AFRAID OF SO MUCH EGGS WITH YORK.. egg white is fine but egg york too? wouldnt we have high cholesterol level in the future?  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
my parents said only 3 maximum whole eggs to be consumed in a day.. i donno lahh whether its true or not.. haha
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i am not throwing away the yolk so yes, i eat it smile.gif
last time i tried making 5 scrambled eggs at once but eating it will be a problem coz u need to chew it and made u felt kinda really full.
so i changed to half-boiled egg, can consume easier and no uncomfortable feeling to my stomachs smile.gif

and, im a web app (PHP) programmer blush.gif
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QUOTE(s3polZ @ Jun 18 2014, 03:08 PM)
i am not throwing away the yolk so yes, i eat it smile.gif
last time i tried making 5 scrambled eggs at once but eating it will be a problem coz u need to chew it and made u felt kinda really full.
so i changed to half-boiled egg, can consume easier and no uncomfortable feeling to my stomachs smile.gif

and, im a web app (PHP) programmer  blush.gif
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i see.. those are what kind of eggs then? gred c b a omega..? haha
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i see.. those are what kind of eggs then? gred c b a omega..? haha
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usually i buy gred b satu papan, around rm11
can last for 1 week
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usually i buy gred b satu papan, around rm11
can last for 1 week
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i see... thanks for the helpful information.. hehe rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Doesn't matter how many meals u take , what matter most is how much calory intake per day.

Target 3k calory per day, within a month u will see the effect already.

of course, pls do workout or else u are gaining fats instead of muscle.
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QUOTE(s3polZ @ Jun 18 2014, 02:21 PM)
err actually my meal plan is not that proper food la, shy to share.  blush.gif
anyway, here it is tl;dr version

meal 1 (7am) : 5 half-boiled eggs (whole egg) + 2 gardenia bread / 2 bananas + plain water

[optional meal - if my colleagues ajak makan  biggrin.gif  ] : roti canai + teh tarik kurang manis

meal 2 (10.30am) :  gardenia white bread 4 slices + 3in1 milo + 5tbsp quaker oats

meal 3 (1pm) : white rice + fried chicken + some veges

meal 4 : (4pm) : gardenia white bread 4 slices + 3in1 milo + 5tbsp quaker oats

meal 5 - preworkout snacks (7pm): 2-3 bananas + black coffee
(not sure if this is a proper pre-workout meal or not, but yeah, im a poor man. you can try hyphy mud by Kali Muscle. mix instant coffee with pepsi. do not expect a good taste on ur tongue.  biggrin.gif  )

8pm - 9.30pm : workout session

meal 6 (10pm) : white rice with whatever things cooked by mom smile.gif

meal 7 - (optional- before sleep) : some crackers with peanut butters + plain water
so, thats it.
i am still searching what kind of meals that suits me best. since im working as programmer, spending time at the desk most of the time, sometime there is not enough time to have my snacks. and there is where your mass gainer comes in handy.

i didnt rely much on my mass gainer, only took it when i dont have enough time to eat.
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ok 2nd step. count the macros and kcal for each of your meal smile.gif

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ok 2nd step. count the macros and kcal for each of your meal  smile.gif
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yup i did track my calorie and macros using myfitnesspal
but not sure is 100% correct or not. unsure.gif

this is my log from yesterday smile.gif

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It's not just about eating more, eat more proper food. That means more protein!! yeah u expect ur muscles to feed carbohydrate to grow???
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QUOTE(s3polZ @ Jun 20 2014, 03:17 PM)
yup i did track my calorie and macros using myfitnesspal
but not sure is 100% correct or not.  unsure.gif

this is my log from yesterday  smile.gif

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May I know what is ur current bodyweight ?
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May I know what is ur current bodyweight ?
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the picture is self explanatory.
now fix it by adding a lil bit more. peanut butter with your breakfast is a good calorie spiker.
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QUOTE(xelrix @ Jun 20 2014, 05:10 PM)
the picture is self explanatory.
now fix it by adding a lil bit more. peanut butter with your breakfast is a good calorie spiker.
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QUOTE(xelrix @ Jun 20 2014, 05:10 PM)
the picture is self explanatory.
now fix it by adding a lil bit more. peanut butter with your breakfast is a good calorie spiker.
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its just i didnt include that in the meal log smile.gif
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Add more vege and fruit to your diet. And your diet seems lack of some healthy fat. I would up my fat intake to 80g.
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QUOTE(s3polZ @ Jun 18 2014, 02:21 PM)
err actually my meal plan is not that proper food la, shy to share.  blush.gif
anyway, here it is tl;dr version

meal 1 (7am) : 5 half-boiled eggs (whole egg) + 2 gardenia bread / 2 bananas + plain water

[optional meal - if my colleagues ajak makan  biggrin.gif  ] : roti canai + teh tarik kurang manis

meal 2 (10.30am) :  gardenia white bread 4 slices + 3in1 milo + 5tbsp quaker oats

meal 3 (1pm) : white rice + fried chicken + some veges

meal 4 : (4pm) : gardenia white bread 4 slices + 3in1 milo + 5tbsp quaker oats

meal 5 - preworkout snacks (7pm): 2-3 bananas + black coffee
(not sure if this is a proper pre-workout meal or not, but yeah, im a poor man. you can try hyphy mud by Kali Muscle. mix instant coffee with pepsi. do not expect a good taste on ur tongue.  biggrin.gif  )

8pm - 9.30pm : workout session

meal 6 (10pm) : white rice with whatever things cooked by mom smile.gif

meal 7 - (optional- before sleep) : some crackers with peanut butters + plain water
so, thats it.
i am still searching what kind of meals that suits me best. since im working as programmer, spending time at the desk most of the time, sometime there is not enough time to have my snacks. and there is where your mass gainer comes in handy.

i didnt rely much on my mass gainer, only took it when i dont have enough time to eat.
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why too much gardenia .it is not that healty ,contain preservatives alot
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QUOTE(s3polZ @ Jun 20 2014, 05:29 PM)
yes i did use peanut butter in my meal
its just i didnt include that in the meal log  smile.gif
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wouldnt all these foos causing body inflammation?  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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but no pain no gain yah
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QUOTE(s3polZ @ Jun 20 2014, 03:17 PM)
yup i did track my calorie and macros using myfitnesspal
but not sure is 100% correct or not.  unsure.gif

this is my log from yesterday  smile.gif

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hi. may i know what app/software is this?
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hi. may i know what app/software is this?
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QUOTE(s3polZ @ Jun 25 2014, 03:07 PM)
thanks. i suppose this is web version. its much different compared to android app.

Did you managed find all the entries in the listing, or you had to key in some of the details? I noticed Banana is 7" long, is it accurate or just randomly selected from the listing?
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QUOTE(s3polZ @ Jun 25 2014, 03:07 PM)
would it be better if i take casein tgther with the calories surplus? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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would it be better if i take casein tgther with the calories surplus?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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doesnt matter as long as you get your surplus on both cal and prot
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QUOTE(cruel_boy @ Jun 25 2014, 04:07 PM)
thanks. i suppose this is web version. its much different compared to android app.

Did you managed find all the entries in the listing, or you had to key in some of the details? I noticed Banana is 7" long, is it accurate or just randomly selected from the listing?
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i just randomly select from the list but i eat slightly more than that
lets say in the list is medium banana, i just eat 2 medium sized banana just to make sure.
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Anyone can recommend me any mass gainer / supplement that can order online? I can't find it around here. Need to go find it at other big pharmacy in middle of KL. Due to transport and work, I doesn't have much time to go there. sad.gif
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Anyone can recommend me any mass gainer / supplement that can order online? I can't find it around here. Need to go find it at other big pharmacy in middle of KL. Due to transport and work, I doesn't have much time to go there. sad.gif
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why not search in the forum?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1783620
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why not search in the forum?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1783620
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I searched but found this post first. Sorry noob in forum. Btw, thanks. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(barberkiller @ Jun 26 2014, 04:08 PM)
I searched but found this post first. Sorry noob in forum. Btw, thanks.  rclxms.gif
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https://forum.lowyat.net/FoodMarket
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Lol how long have u been doing this ? Perhaps give us the exact amount u eat , like maybe one cup of rice , 200g of chicken ,etc..
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getting enough sleep and constant sleeping time is the main factor of gaining weight (try google around)

let me share my experience, i'm 179cm tall, 56kg when dec 2013 (been stuck at that figure for few years)
today i'm 64kg (still skinny and 1kg underweight)without taking any protein supplement. i just make sure i get 8 hours of sleep everyday, 15 mins or 1 hour of nap whenever i can. my sleeping time is constant everyday from 12am/1am - 8am/9am. drink plenty of water during the day time, and i eat whatever i want. 4 meals a day is a must to me so that i can gain weight, i failed to take 5 meals per day because i will have hard time falling sleep during the nite may b because i'm too full.

the key here is to be CONSTANT, never wait till u r hungry, its too late cause ur body is burning the remaining little calories in ur body. try not to sleep with empty stomach and of course no fatty or oily food to avoid becoming a fat ass.

skinny people usually have high metabolism. we burn fat faster than any other ppl, u'll feel exhausted faster than ur fren, and myself 1 meal (rice) can only last for 4 hours ...5 hours is the MAX, if i were to eat anything that doesn come with rice , most of the time i can only last for 3 hours and i'll b hungry again.

i've been hitting the gym since feb 2014 gym with my fren, and i'm the only guy that is lifting 30-40kg but all of my fren are lifting 100kg shakehead.gif coz i nv took any protein or mass gainers (whatever u guys call them, i have 0% knowledge)

and my frens oways laugh at me coz they say i'm like the kancil 660cc, small, underpower, and high fuel consumption (coz i eat the same amount as them) doh.gif
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QUOTE(melvyn @ Jul 21 2014, 09:40 PM)
getting enough sleep and constant sleeping time is the main factor of gaining weight (try google around)

let me share my experience, i'm 179cm tall, 56kg when dec 2013 (been stuck at that figure for few years)
today i'm 64kg (still skinny and 1kg underweight)without taking any protein supplement. i just make sure i get 8 hours of sleep everyday, 15 mins or 1 hour of nap whenever i can. my sleeping time is constant everyday from 12am/1am - 8am/9am. drink plenty of water during the day time, and i eat whatever i want. 4 meals a day is a must to me so that i can gain weight, i failed to take 5 meals per day because i will have hard time falling sleep during the nite may b because i'm too full.

the key here is to be CONSTANT, never wait till u r hungry, its too late cause ur body is burning the remaining little calories in ur body. try not to sleep with empty stomach and of course no fatty or oily food to avoid becoming a fat ass.

skinny people usually have high metabolism. we burn fat faster than any other ppl, u'll feel exhausted faster than ur fren, and myself 1 meal (rice) can only last for 4 hours ...5 hours is the MAX, if i were to eat anything that doesn come with rice , most of the time i can only last for 3 hours and i'll b hungry again.

i've been hitting the gym since feb 2014 gym with my fren, and i'm the only guy that is lifting 30-40kg but all of my fren are lifting 100kg  shakehead.gif  coz i nv took any protein or mass gainers (whatever u guys call them, i have 0% knowledge)

and my frens oways laugh at me coz they say i'm like the kancil 660cc, small, underpower, and high fuel consumption (coz i eat the same amount as them) doh.gif
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Lol well it will take time bro . Just fix up ur diet . How sure are u eating the same amount as them ? I assume u do eat alot ?
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eat fried rice at 12 am at night..sleep 30 mins later. do it for 30 days
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Like they said, regular diet plan + consistency.

Take good unprocessed food. Avoid sodas and fast food. And remember to lift. Or else you'll be gaining at your belly instead of muscles.

I'm 179cm , used to be 55kg, Now i'm 80kg. So nothing is impossible. Work hard bro.

Try to search you tube for more bulking recipes and create your own diet plan. Thats the best way you can do. Remember settle your main meals first, mass gainer is a supplement.

Read Nutrition facts of mass gainer too.
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Lol well it will take time bro . Just fix up ur diet . How sure are u eating the same amount as them ? I assume u do eat alot ?
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Cozz most of the time v have our meal all the time, ermmm....not a lot coz my friends aren those massive body builder. Lol.

Yeap, without supplement it takes time but at least I'm living the healthy lifestyle.not great but good enough I guess, at least I know my immunity is better than before.
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Solid food intake is important for skinny guy to gain their mass. Try to achieve 6 meals per day plan with proper diet. Workout hard and sleep 8 hours a day or more.

My stat:
1st Jan 2012 - 172CM, 56KG & 19% bodyfat

22nd July 2014 (current) - 172CM, 72KG & 11-13% bodyfat
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u need to marry

only married ppl gain weight fast, that i heard alot happy.gif
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just read the thread. but this statement bro, is wrong. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(melvyn @ Jul 22 2014, 01:22 AM)
Cozz most of the time v have our meal all the time, ermmm....not a lot coz my friends aren those massive body builder. Lol.

Yeap, without supplement it takes time but at least I'm living the healthy lifestyle.not great but good enough I guess, at least I know my immunity is better than before.
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Do note that one meal won't be sufficient to conclude ur total caloric intake . By the end of the day , the amount of calories consumed is what matters . I've seen/heard people who claim that they're "eating alot", but when i see their meals , they're only eating 1/3 of what they should be eating lol.

QUOTE(wts6819 @ Jul 22 2014, 10:25 AM)
Solid food intake is important for skinny guy to gain their mass. Try to achieve 6 meals per day plan with proper diet. Workout hard and sleep 8 hours a day or more.

My stat:
1st Jan 2012 - 172CM, 56KG & 19% bodyfat

22nd July 2014 (current) - 172CM, 72KG & 11-13% bodyfat
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Calorie surplus is what matters . Meal frequency doesn't matter . U can consume 6 meals with total of 3000cals , same with 3 meals with 3000cals . As long as u achieve ur calories by the end of the day , you're good to go. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Jul 21 2014, 11:16 PM)
eat fried rice at 12 am at night..sleep 30 mins later. do it for 30 days
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Did someone say bulk? 3 meals a day in MacD, you'd get swole in no time!
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Did someone say bulk? 3 meals a day in MacD, you'd get swole in no time!
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Newbie here...so basically inorder for you to gain weight,u must double up your calories intake?btw,how can i know that what is the basic amount of calory i needed for a day?
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look at the bright side ,, being skinny means u can eat all u want without worrying about getting fat
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QUOTE(stargamer @ Jul 23 2014, 02:52 AM)
look at the bright side ,, being skinny means u can eat all u want without worrying about getting fat
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You should not post such misinformation. It doesn't work that way.
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QUOTE(zaxwin @ Jul 23 2014, 02:48 AM)
Newbie here...so basically inorder for you to gain weight,u must double up your calories intake?btw,how can  i know that what is the basic amount of calory i needed for a day?
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http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/
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QUOTE(kshen @ Jul 22 2014, 12:00 PM)
Do note that one meal won't be sufficient to conclude ur total caloric intake . By the end of the day , the amount of calories consumed is what matters . I've seen/heard people who claim that they're "eating alot", but when i see their meals , they're only eating 1/3 of what they should be eating lol.
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yeap, agree with u(i know your point, my frens did explain to me). i'm not on any diet plan, i go to gym with them just to work out and sweat. its better than nothing, its been 6 months, the result aren't that great but u can tell the difference judging from my skinny photo half year ago tongue.gif .
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You should not post such misinformation. It doesn't work that way.
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he mightnot gain any weight or grow any fat meat, but i can assure that he sure has high cholesterol like most of the skinny guy does.
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gymmate mentioned bout Growth Hormone supplement upon reaching age of 30.

Yay or Nay
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same, i am 29, weight about 47, heigh 165. kenot grow, kenot eat much because of appetite, been trying this and that to no avail.

PT is too expensive, around 100 per session.

sigh.
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QUOTE(fReqZz @ Jul 24 2014, 01:15 PM)
same, i am 29, weight about 47, heigh 165. kenot grow, kenot eat much because of appetite, been trying this and that to no avail.

PT is too expensive, around 100 per session.

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QUOTE(fReqZz @ Jul 24 2014, 01:15 PM)
same, i am 29, weight about 47, heigh 165. kenot grow, kenot eat much because of appetite, been trying this and that to no avail.

PT is too expensive, around 100 per session.

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Do like me, 5 pints per Happy hour session. Min 2 times a week.

Bulking phase brahhhh
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im adding 1 liter of milk every day to my diet
dutch lady full cream
any good?
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im adding 1 liter of milk every day to my diet
dutch lady full cream
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mean add in 620 kcal calories with 32g protein 32g fat and 48g carb. so what you think? reach your calories goal?
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QUOTE(akiratm @ Jul 31 2014, 11:41 AM)
mean add in 620 kcal calories with 32g protein 32g fat and 48g carb.  so what you think? reach your calories goal?
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since im not taking any protein supplement
so im worried about how to reach my daily protein intake

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My weight was 51kg and height 170cm. After my SPM ended, what i did for the first 2 months was basically eat, sleep, eat,sleep without doing any significant activity. i gained 6kg of pure fat. My face become plump that my family was surprised.

Then, i started hitting the gym, for the next 3 months. managed to gain 3kg of muscle, and weigh 60kg. im happy eventhough i think im still quite thin.

Then. i had to enter college. Didn't have time to hit the gym but still managed to maintain my weight.
Ramadhan arrives, didn't manage to take sahur many times. only eat once a day that is during break fast.

Returned home for raya. My family said that i look thinner, my face is not plump anymore. Step on the weighing scale, and i only weighed 53kg. 7kg lost because of fasting.

On a positive side, i believe most of my weight that is gone was fats. my belly become flat. no more fats on my cheeks. My arms and chest still maintain its size, or maybe only a little bit smaller.
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QUOTE(Unleashed @ Aug 2 2014, 09:03 PM)
My weight was 51kg and height 170cm. After my SPM ended, what i did for the first 2 months was basically eat, sleep, eat,sleep without doing any significant activity. i gained 6kg of pure fat. My face become plump that my family was surprised.

Then, i started hitting the gym, for the next 3 months. managed to gain 3kg of muscle, and weigh 60kg. im happy eventhough i think im still quite thin.

Then. i had to enter college. Didn't have time to hit the gym but still managed to maintain my weight.
Ramadhan arrives, didn't manage to take sahur many times. only eat once a day that is during break fast.

Returned home for raya. My family said that i look thinner, my face is not plump anymore. Step on the weighing scale, and i only weighed 53kg. 7kg lost because of fasting.

On a positive side, i believe most of my weight that is gone was fats. my belly become flat. no more fats on my cheeks. My arms and chest still maintain its size, or maybe only a little bit smaller.
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Why the f*** don't you just count calories for every food you eat. Just use the damn MyFitnessPal app to track. Yes, please weight your food.

And just use this to calculate your cals needs:
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

Sibeh sohai really can't tahan edy.
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QUOTE(Armesh @ Aug 2 2014, 11:40 PM)
Why the f*** don't you just count calories for every food you eat. Just use the damn MyFitnessPal app to track. Yes, please weight your food.

And just use this to calculate your cals needs:
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

Sibeh sohai really can't tahan edy.
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So many people just keep post this damn weight gain crap over and over again when it's just some super basic BB thing. Malaysian's and weight gainers. Mass bro mass!
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Hilarious Armesh! I couldn't help laughing when I saw "Malaysian's and weight gainers. Mass bro mass!"

So true! Weight gainer seems to be the popular choice for beginners instead of whole food. They should be getting their calories from complex carbs, lean protein and quality fats first. I read one dumbass wrote he was taking Hydroxycut & Serious Mass to burn fat and gain muscle same time! Incredible!

Young punks today expect to be spoon-fed all the way. They don't want to read, don't want to gain knowledge. And they don't squat! When tell them to read and learn more, they whine about so much information to digest.. headache, pening bla bla bla. Champions at making excuses. When tell them to buy previous issues (cheaper) of Ironman, Muscle & Fitness etc as every issue will have something new to learn but they don't want to spend money, but willing to buy a sack of sugar-laden Serious Mass! Do they even read the nutrition label? It's mostly sugar!

The Internet already have an abundant of free resources. Some of my favourites are exrx.net abcbodybuilding.com nutritiondata.com

Seriously, you lazy asses need to READ! Print out material from the net and read! Buy magazines and books. Read on the bus, read in bed, read when on the toilet! Bodybuilding & nutrition are huge huge subjects, there is just so much to learn. And its fun when you learn new things and apply them in the gym and your food intake and see the rewarding results!

"If you want what the others don't have, you have to do what the others won't do!"
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QUOTE(Tny @ Aug 3 2014, 04:09 PM)
Hilarious Armesh! I couldn't help laughing when I saw "Malaysian's and weight gainers. Mass bro mass!"

So true! Weight gainer seems to be the popular choice for beginners instead of whole food. They should be getting their calories from complex carbs, lean protein and quality fats first. I read one dumbass wrote he was taking Hydroxycut & Serious Mass to burn fat and gain muscle same time! Incredible!

Young punks today expect to be spoon-fed all the way. They don't want to read, don't want to gain knowledge. And they don't squat! When tell them to read and learn more, they whine about so much information to digest.. headache, pening bla bla bla. Champions at making excuses. When tell them to buy previous issues (cheaper) of Ironman, Muscle & Fitness etc as every issue will have something new to learn but they don't want to spend money, but willing to buy a sack of sugar-laden Serious Mass! Do they even read the nutrition label? It's mostly sugar!

The Internet already have an abundant of free resources. Some of my favourites are exrx.net abcbodybuilding.com nutritiondata.com

Seriously, you lazy asses need to READ! Print out material from the net and read! Buy magazines and books. Read on the bus, read in bed, read when on the toilet! Bodybuilding & nutrition are huge huge subjects, there is just so much to learn. And its fun when you learn new things and apply them in the gym and your food intake and see the rewarding results!

"If you want what the others don't have, you have to do what the others won't do!"
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I've seen all the kids these days expecting to buy those weight gainer and gain like they want but that shows how f***ed up they was.

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never give up please,

here's the photo that i from 48 to 58 in 3 months,

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A discussion assumes both parties have something to contribute to the topic. Directly asking for answers is not a discussion. There is a plethora of very good information and resources available.

I'm not having a go at you, but I am advising you to do your own research.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 8 2014, 12:15 PM)
A discussion assumes both parties have something to contribute to the topic. Directly asking for answers is not a discussion. There is a plethora of very good information and resources available.

I'm not having a go at you, but I am advising you to do your own research.
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i'm strongly agree, there's alot of information out there, just simply google it, will have alots of different answer come out, filter it by yourself, and see which is the best answer, i also kinda hate people just wait for it, not doing it
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some people jus dont even noe how to start. there r too abundance info in d net. which 1 to read. d attitute of this sub-forum is sickening n all inhereted from some vry senior members around here.

how junior wanna get goin when everytime ask noob question, sure kena shoot.....
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Aug 22 2014, 04:48 PM)
some people jus dont even noe how to start. there r too abundance info in d net. which 1 to read.  d attitute of this sub-forum is sickening n all inhereted from some vry senior members around here.

how junior wanna get goin when everytime ask noob question, sure kena shoot.....
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There's no doubt about that. However, that's the purpose of the pinned threads. The people who've posted them have neatly condensed useful information into single threads. They're meant to be a starting point for anyone new to the subject. Go to nearly any forum/message board and the first point of reference for information will almost always be pinned threads.
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Ok i am planning to write a quick 1 stop guide for any newbie which comes to this sub forum. It will cover how to eat(TDEE, Macros), how to train(links to best begginer programs), and explain basic supplements (whey, creatine).

So it will be systematic step by step guide. Any noob will be pro in 30 minutes.

Any mod will sticky it? I am ready to write it to solve this issue permanently for good.

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QUOTE(nkforce @ Aug 8 2014, 11:44 AM)
never give up please,

here's the photo that i from 48 to 58 in 3 months,

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eat like a king, workout like a mad guy,
and must rest well too!
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what u eat that makes the skin changes color?.

hold card la, so easy to prove people on internet.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 22 2014, 06:15 PM)
There's no doubt about that. However, that's the purpose of the pinned threads. The people who've posted them have neatly condensed useful information into single threads. They're meant to be a starting point for anyone new to the subject. Go to nearly any forum/message board and the first point of reference for information will almost always be pinned threads.
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seriously, for newbie to easier absorb info, nothing beats Q&A. d pinned r towards hard facts, alot newbie jus need minimal info to start up i.e. wanna noe how n why n more info from experienced bodybuilders n strength trainers.

if this continue, this community cant grow.
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Aug 26 2014, 09:28 AM)
seriously, for newbie to easier absorb info, nothing beats Q&A. d pinned r towards hard facts, alot newbie jus need minimal info to start up i.e. wanna noe how n why n more info from experienced bodybuilders n strength trainers.

if this continue, this community cant grow.
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A discussion can start when a newbie have made their research and have questions regarding them. If a person come to you and ask "Why I can't grow bigger?", all the possible questions from a newbie were already answered in the pinned thread. Try to reply these kind of questions everyday and see whether you'll change your opinion on this or not.

This is a very good question by a forumer that we can discussed atm. I don't mind spending time answering this kind of question.
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follow strength-oriented routine, like Rippetoe's Starting Strength or StrongLift 5X5. Forget about body split. Once you lift compound and lift heavy, your appetite will increase tremendously, and you will be eating like a cow.

But make sure you get enough rest, 7 hours of quality sleep is a must.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Aug 26 2014, 09:41 AM)
A discussion can start when a newbie have made their research and have questions regarding them. If a person come to you and ask "Why I can't grow bigger?", all the possible questions from a newbie were already answered in the pinned thread. Try to reply these kind of questions everyday and see whether you'll change your opinion on this or not.

This is a very good question by a forumer that we can discussed atm. I don't mind spending time answering this kind of question.
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dats d prob wit this subforum. it never welcome REAL newbie.lol

a discussion shud start whenever some1 hav any questions. wether its noob or more technical stuff.




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i am using mass gainer..and my arm start to develop...u cannot depend on the protien..but u need to workout...i gain muscle but not fat.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 26 2014, 10:09 AM)
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Mm care to explain why? I'm on SL atm. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Tny @ Aug 3 2014, 04:09 PM)
Hilarious Armesh! I couldn't help laughing when I saw "Malaysian's and weight gainers. Mass bro mass!"

So true! Weight gainer seems to be the popular choice for beginners instead of whole food. They should be getting their calories from complex carbs, lean protein and quality fats first. I read one dumbass wrote he was taking Hydroxycut & Serious Mass to burn fat and gain muscle same time! Incredible!

Young punks today expect to be spoon-fed all the way. They don't want to read, don't want to gain knowledge. And they don't squat! When tell them to read and learn more, they whine about so much information to digest.. headache, pening bla bla bla. Champions at making excuses. When tell them to buy previous issues (cheaper) of Ironman, Muscle & Fitness etc as every issue will have something new to learn but they don't want to spend money, but willing to buy a sack of sugar-laden Serious Mass! Do they even read the nutrition label? It's mostly sugar!

The Internet already have an abundant of free resources. Some of my favourites are exrx.net abcbodybuilding.com nutritiondata.com

Seriously, you lazy asses need to READ! Print out material from the net and read! Buy magazines and books. Read on the bus, read in bed, read when on the toilet! Bodybuilding & nutrition are huge huge subjects, there is just so much to learn. And its fun when you learn new things and apply them in the gym and your food intake and see the rewarding results!

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If think like this, LYN Finance and Property subforum already chaplap de. There even beginner can ask question.

I think that is what the few skinny guys here are commenting about. Why can't get a straight answer instead of kena screw.

*delurks*
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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Aug 26 2014, 03:55 PM)
If think like this, LYN Finance and Property subforum already chaplap de. There even beginner can ask question.

I think that is what the few skinny guys here are commenting about. Why can't get a straight answer instead of kena screw.

*delurks*
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Well, I went to LYN Finance and Property subforum there. First thing I saw were a lot of pinned thread. Everything from funds 101, AKPK, ASB stuff until IBG. Same goes to LYN Fitness and Bodybuilding, we have double the amount of pinned thread compared to Finance subforum. Everything from losing weight, gaining weight, mythbusters, 6 packs, long compilations of exercises programs, tips and tricks for mass gaining, and articles from Iron Addict about Why Aren't You Growing. Problem is that the last guy come here and opened a thread saying that he can't gain weight but he ate a lot.

Come on man. How many pinned thread are needed to explain about reasons why you/them failed to gain weight and what you need to do to change that? They just won't bother to read.
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QUOTE(Miracles @ Aug 26 2014, 03:52 PM)
Mm care to explain why? I'm on SL atm. sad.gif
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While SL is a good program for beginners to drill in good form on compound exercises, it may result in muscular imbalances due to lack of isolation work. Jason Blaha's ICF 5x5 routine is a more well rounded full-body style program which addresses the issue with SL.
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While SL is a good program for beginners to drill in good form on compound exercises, it may result in muscular imbalances due to lack of isolation work. Jason Blaha's ICF 5x5 routine is a more well rounded full-body style program which addresses the issue with SL.
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Just to add about ICF 5x5 . I ran it for 3 months when I started gym from nothing and was on 250cal surplus (lean bulk). What I experience is massive stalling on the Bench Press and OHP which should be due to the tricep isolations. Then the progression also may get unrealistic after 1 month of doing it and it is extremely taxing and lack programming. So you wanna do it... you can do it for 1 month ++ at max 2 months. It's not a good program whereby you will be overtraining quickly, stalling and takes unnecessarily long time (1.5 hours min per session).

It did bosted my squat from 37.5KG to 62.5KG(Bodyweight = 61KG) in 3 months.

I recommend All Pro's Beginner instead:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=155009423

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QUOTE(Miracles @ Aug 26 2014, 03:52 PM)
Mm care to explain why? I'm on SL atm. sad.gif
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Look at Mehdi's lifts. Crappy. Would you take advice from a weak powerlifter who has been lifting more than 10 years? I lift more than him. Lol. And I'm no powerlifter.

Plus his program got bad reviews on powerlifting sites.

And his forum and site is more of a money making site. Join gold membership status for extra content. Lol yea right
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 26 2014, 05:07 PM)
While SL is a good program for beginners to drill in good form on compound exercises, it may result in muscular imbalances due to lack of isolation work. Jason Blaha's ICF 5x5 routine is a more well rounded full-body style program which addresses the issue with SL.
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QUOTE(Armesh @ Aug 26 2014, 05:26 PM)
Just to add about ICF 5x5 . I ran it for 3 months when I started gym from nothing and was on 250cal surplus (lean bulk). What I experience is massive stalling on the Bench Press and OHP which should be due to the tricep isolations. Then the progression also may get unrealistic after 1 month of doing it and it is extremely taxing and lack programming. So you wanna do it... you can do it for 1 month ++ at max 2 months. It's not a good program whereby you will be overtraining quickly, stalling and takes unnecessarily long time (1.5 hours min per session).

It did bosted my squat from 37.5KG to 62.5KG(Bodyweight = 61KG) in 3 months.

I recommend All Pro's Beginner instead:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=155009423
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 26 2014, 06:29 PM)
Look at Mehdi's lifts. Crappy. Would you take advice from a weak powerlifter who has been lifting more than 10 years? I lift more than him. Lol. And I'm no powerlifter.

Plus his program got bad reviews on powerlifting sites.

And his forum and site is more of a money making site. Join gold membership status for extra content. Lol yea right
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Ahh thank you for the advices. Right now, I cant make up my mind. Stuck between AllPro SBR and Phrak's greyskull LP variant. *back to more reading*
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 26 2014, 05:07 PM)
While SL is a good program for beginners to drill in good form on compound exercises, it may result in muscular imbalances due to lack of isolation work. Jason Blaha's ICF 5x5 routine is a more well rounded full-body style program which addresses the issue with SL.
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I agree with you. It is not for intermediate or advanced lifter. Squatting heavy for three times a weeks is going to literally kill you in the long run. But, the program is good for newbie that has been doing 10 different variations of biceps curl, yet still can't put on couple KGs of bw. The focus on squat really helps in putting on bw, but you won't get big guns out of it la.
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Hey all, hopefully im not too late to this thread.
Can anyone that is currently trying to gain weight now, share their daily meal plan? What food you eat per meal, how many meals per day on a normal day etc.

I'm having a hard time trying to find food that are convenient and easily obtainable.. especially main courses.
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QUOTE(xinkof @ Apr 7 2015, 02:17 PM)
Hey all, hopefully im not too late to this thread.
Can anyone that is currently trying to gain weight now, share their daily meal plan? What food you eat per meal, how many meals per day on a normal day etc.

I'm having a hard time trying to find food that are convenient and easily obtainable.. especially main courses.
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chicken rice, satay, nasi lemak, char kuey tiow

char siew pau, anything, just eat the food you like to eat as long as they fit your macros and you get a calories surplus

like today morning i ate 12 dimsum, noon normal mixed rice with char siew and egg and sweet and sour pork, after gym 2 scoop of whey, just had some watermelon and cookies as snack and maybe later eat noodles or satay as dinner

learn to actually count calories, if no weight gain, increase the calories intake, if no weight gain again, increase your calories intake again
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QUOTE(Manlet @ Apr 7 2015, 07:29 PM)
chicken rice, satay, nasi lemak, char kuey tiow

char siew pau, anything, just eat the food you like to eat as long as they fit your macros and you get a calories surplus

like today morning i ate 12 dimsum, noon normal mixed rice with char siew and egg and sweet and sour pork, after gym 2 scoop of whey, just had some watermelon and cookies as snack and maybe later eat noodles or satay as dinner

learn to actually count calories, if no weight gain, increase the calories intake, if no weight gain again, increase your calories intake again
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Thanks for sharing! Yea i just started tracking now. Actually quite hard to hit the necessary calories intake without taking whey/protein powder.
I'm trying to rely solely on food for now.. see if its possible

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QUOTE(xinkof @ Apr 7 2015, 09:38 PM)
Thanks for sharing! Yea i just started tracking now. Actually quite hard to hit the necessary calories intake without taking whey/protein powder.
I'm trying to rely solely on food for now.. see if its possible
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whey is actually low in calories la

but indeed its hard to hit protein intake without whey from our typical daily food

just dont forget about fibres too when your chunking in loads of food
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Aug 27 2014, 12:22 PM)
I agree with you. It is not for intermediate or advanced lifter. Squatting heavy for three times a weeks is going to literally kill you in the long run. But, the program is good for newbie that has been doing 10 different variations of biceps curl, yet still can't put on couple KGs of bw. The focus on squat really helps in putting on bw, but you won't get big guns out of it la.
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so are u basically saying only beginners can squat 3 days per week? LMAO
increasing bodyweight has nothing to do with ur routine, diet is.


QUOTE(Manlet @ Apr 7 2015, 10:42 PM)
whey is actually low in calories la

but indeed its hard to hit protein intake without whey from our typical daily food

just dont forget about fibres too when your chunking in loads of food
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yea without whey i have hard time hitting my daily protein intake, whey is cheap and convenient for me
i am always curious, why u put "female" as ur gender
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QUOTE(NGV22 @ Apr 9 2015, 04:42 AM)
so are u basically saying only beginners can squat 3 days per week? LMAO
increasing bodyweight has nothing to do with ur routine, diet is.
yea without whey i have hard time hitting my daily protein intake, whey is cheap and convenient for me
i am always curious, why u put "female" as ur gender
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You are purposely missing out one of my important point, which is squatting "heavy". Stronglift requires you to be at least squatting at your PR, if not breaking your PR, everytime, and this is taxing for non-beginner lifters.

As for putting on weight, I agree on your point where increasing body weight is about calorie intake. What I meant was, for hardgainers, it is more effective to follow a program that concentrates on performing heavy compound lifts (like Stronglife). The article below talks about similar thing:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/hardgainer...y-set-grow.html

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the rule to gain weight/bulk up is easy

eat alot and lift heavy

that's all..just these 2 things.

when comes to eat. dont have to bother about good nutrition, just eat whatever etc junk food

and always go heavy on your workout
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QUOTE(facelol @ May 5 2015, 09:51 AM)
the rule to gain weight/bulk up is easy

eat alot and lift heavy

that's all..just these 2 things.

when comes to eat. dont have to bother about good nutrition, just eat whatever etc junk food

and always go heavy on your workout
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Eat a lot and turn yourself to fat, nice.
Don't bother with nutrition, eat carbs and protein but no good fats for testosterone production, nice.

LOL at your face.
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my weight 49kg height 168cm. give up already. prefer to be skeleton king now...
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 5 2015, 12:11 PM)
Eat a lot and turn yourself to fat, nice.
Don't bother with nutrition, eat carbs and protein but no good fats for testosterone production, nice.

LOL at your face.
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lol brah..

if ppl have high metabolism, they can eat whatever shit they want and wont become fat.

been there, done that. i am one of them. i am very skinny/bone figure.

i still remembered when i first get into bodybuilding/fitness , i eat fast food every single day. 1 day 2 sets of fast foods.

and my body fat is still between 9-11%

whats your bodyfat? looking at your avatar, i guess you're a fat guy. lol
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QUOTE(facelol @ May 5 2015, 12:24 PM)
lol brah..

if ppl have high metabolism, they can eat whatever shit they want and wont become fat.

been there, done that. i am one of them. i am very skinny/bone figure.

i still remembered when i first get into bodybuilding/fitness , i eat fast food every single day. 1 day 2 sets of fast foods.

and my body fat is still between 9-11%

whats your bodyfat? looking at your avatar, i guess you're a fat guy. lol
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LOL brah did you even count calories accurately and eat 2800~3000 cals a day?
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QUOTE(facelol @ May 5 2015, 12:24 PM)
lol brah..

if ppl have high metabolism, they can eat whatever shit they want and wont become fat.

been there, done that. i am one of them. i am very skinny/bone figure.

i still remembered when i first get into bodybuilding/fitness , i eat fast food every single day. 1 day 2 sets of fast foods.

and my body fat is still between 9-11%

whats your bodyfat? looking at your avatar, i guess you're a fat guy. lol
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LOL brah did you even count calories accurately and eat 2800~3000 cals a day?
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i've never eat clean. i eat fast foods every SINGLE day. i eat mamak every SINGLE day. and all those unhealthy things fried stuffs etc.

i dont count my calories intake because i know my body well.. its very hard for me to add on pounds to my body. so the only way to gain weight fast is eating unhealthy foods.

dont get me wrong, i can gain weight too if i eat clean and eat 8-12 meals a day, but the result will be very slow.


and yet im still able to keep my bf between 9%-11%


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lol brah..

if ppl have high metabolism, they can eat whatever shit they want and wont become fat.

been there, done that. i am one of them. i am very skinny/bone figure.

i still remembered when i first get into bodybuilding/fitness , i eat fast food every single day. 1 day 2 sets of fast foods.

and my body fat is still between 9-11%

whats your bodyfat? looking at your avatar, i guess you're a fat guy. lol
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I guess if we take into consideration of avatar as our latest body pic, Manlet would have the biggest forearm in the world and you are not even a human being. How's that working for you?

How come you can bulk if you can maintain your bf% at the same level? For sure you are not gaining anything and that is due to you being non-knowledgeable in the requirements to gain muscle mass, hence reflected on your previous suggestion/advice.

Learn something.

p/s: You don't need to eat clean to gain muscle mass. That's a new knowledge for you for the day.

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QUOTE(facelol @ May 5 2015, 12:34 PM)
i've never eat clean. i eat fast foods every SINGLE day. i eat mamak every SINGLE day. and all those unhealthy things fried stuffs etc.

i dont count my calories intake because i know my body well.. its very hard for me to add on pounds to my body. so the only way to gain weight fast is eating unhealthy foods.

dont get me wrong, i can gain weight too if i eat clean and eat 8-12 meals a day, but the result will be very slow.
and yet im still able to keep my bf between 9%-11%
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U eat little. Period. Comeback to me after you eat 3000 cals for 1 Month. Fully accurately tracked with MyFitnessPal.

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QUOTE(facelol @ May 5 2015, 12:24 PM)
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i still remembered when i first get into bodybuilding/fitness , i eat fast food every single day. 1 day 2 sets of fast foods.

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whats your bodyfat? looking at your avatar, i guess you're a fat guy. lol
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when you actually realized that 2 sets of fast foods totals to only about 2000kcals icon_rolleyes.gif

quarter pounder around 500, fries about 400, coke about 130

times that by 2 its only 2000 bro, you need another sets of them
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when you actually realized that 2 sets of fast foods totals to only about 2000kcals  icon_rolleyes.gif

quarter pounder around 500, fries about 400, coke about 130

times that by 2 its only 2000 bro, you need another sets of them
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Some people just don't get it. They say they eat "a lot" but when you see how much they eat, you laugh laugh.gif

It's all about the calories. Eat more than your body needs and you will gain weight.

Back when I could eat quite a lot, normally eat 3 original KFC tighs, around 1200 for them and 1 large cheesy wedges, maybe 600 calories? That's almost 2k calories for lunch alone.

Dinner probably eat 3 Ramly burgers, roughly 1.5k calories for them. Lunch+Dinner already 3.3k calories.

Supper leh? I always eat supper one, always eat nasi lemak and fried chicken. (nasi lemak size is like the banana leaf large size). Not to mention snacks in between meal times.

If I were to eat like that on a daily basis, my calorie intake would probably be close to 4k calories lol !

Now you know why I put on weight back in Malaysia biggrin.gif

Nowadays eat around 1,500 to 1,800 calories only sad.gif

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owhh... the argument continues.....

well.. i've finally gain some weight.. hehe....

i was 54kg and now im 65kg liawww... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

btw, i do have a question.. a regular hainan chicken rice calories brape eh?

chicken breast rice.. regular size of a hainan chicken rice..
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ May 7 2015, 04:23 PM)
owhh... the argument continues.....

well.. i've finally gain some weight.. hehe....

i was 54kg and now im 65kg liawww... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

btw, i do have a question.. a regular hainan chicken rice calories brape eh?

chicken breast rice.. regular size of a hainan chicken rice..
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ May 8 2015, 12:23 AM)
owhh... the argument continues.....

well.. i've finally gain some weight.. hehe....

i was 54kg and now im 65kg liawww... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

btw, i do have a question.. a regular hainan chicken rice calories brape eh?

chicken breast rice.. regular size of a hainan chicken rice..
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Nice la. So in the end how much are you eating?

Look down here, you said "been eating A LOT and A LOT" biggrin.gif I wonder how much?

QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ Jun 12 2014, 11:09 AM)
ME...

been eating a lot and a lot, still not gaining any weight.. i mean like from 55 to 56kg after taking so much mass gainer and whey? c'mon.. im sad...  sad.gif  sad.gif

any SUPER suggestion? muscle guy? sad.gif  cry.gif
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Nice la. So in the end how much are you eating?

Look down here, you said "been eating A LOT and A LOT" biggrin.gif I wonder how much?
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i havent really count how much calories i've been taking each day ehh..

tak tau ehh.. haha... b4 this i don really like to eat chicken breast wan.. but now i actually love it..

kfc.. mcd or chicken rice... evthing changed from drumstick to breast.. sooooo nice.. hahah...

i take scrambled eggs with cream cheese at the morning.. 4 biji.. then 2 sausages with 2 slice of white bread.. not evday.. at least 5 days a week i eat like that.. cause my classes allowed me to do so cause i have more time..

then lunch take subway lo b4 workout.. chicken slice that set.. then after workout 1 more subway..

and night.. sometimes chicken rice.. sometimes kfc or mcd.. or i cook myself.. 1 whole dolly fish served with fresh milk and black pepper as sauce.. trust me... u have to try it out... its super delicious.. with 2 big bowl of rice like that...

FYI, im taking mass also lahh.. morning and after workout and b4 sleep.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ May 8 2015, 12:59 AM)
my hard guess is around 450-500 (chicken 200, rice 300)
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not very much right? but i jz couldnt take more of the rice.. because its nasi minyak.. feel bloated if taking too much of it.. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ May 8 2015, 03:58 AM)
i havent really count how much calories i've been taking each day ehh..

tak tau ehh.. haha... b4 this i don really like to eat chicken breast wan.. but now i actually love it..

kfc.. mcd or chicken rice... evthing changed from drumstick to breast.. sooooo nice.. hahah...

i take scrambled eggs with cream cheese at the morning.. 4 biji.. then 2 sausages with 2 slice of white bread.. not evday.. at least 5 days a week i eat like that.. cause my classes allowed me to do so cause i have more time..

then lunch take subway lo b4 workout.. chicken slice that set.. then after workout 1 more subway..

and night.. sometimes chicken rice.. sometimes kfc or mcd.. or i cook myself.. 1 whole dolly fish served with fresh milk and black pepper as sauce.. trust me... u have to try it out... its super delicious.. with 2 big bowl of rice like that...

FYI, im taking mass also lahh.. morning and after workout and b4 sleep..  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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jz the subway expensive nia.. around rm7.40 each.. thats the cheapest and healthiest food i found in taylors lakeside liaww.. if makan at the chinese restaurant would have cost me more than rm10 plus its not filling my stomach..

the eggs i buy normal eggs nia... if buy omega gg lor bro.. hahah
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Listen to me. Eat 6 times a day. Thats it. 3 real meals, 3 snack. Dont believe it? Try for one month. Just F do it. This is the way. Dont tell me its imposible unless you try this..
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and lots or carb. nasi lemak morning, roti canai morning tea, nasi campur lunch, mee goreng tea break, nasi campur malam, roti telur supper.

just keep this diet for 1 month. if u still no gain weight, 14th floor is that way -->
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most ppl just tell you to eat more
I was thin before, but now I had gained a lot of weight and muscle
the main problem you are facing when you are trying to eat more is how to increase your daily food intake. some ppl cant take that much of food, when they feel full, they tend to stop eating
what I did is eat faster and eat a lot of food of coz.
for me taking 6 meals a day doesn't help, but taking huge amount of food in one meal and eat it quickly does help to increase the size of my food intake.
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QUOTE(ajax91 @ May 8 2015, 06:43 AM)
most ppl just tell you to eat more
I was thin before, but now I had gained a lot of weight and muscle
the main problem you are facing when you are trying to eat more is how to increase your daily food intake. some ppl cant take that much of food, when they feel full, they tend to stop eating
what I did is eat faster and eat a lot of food of coz.
for me taking 6 meals a day doesn't help, but taking huge amount of food in one meal and eat it quickly does help to increase the size of my food intake.
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Hi, newbie here... 47.xkg and height around 165-166cm

Can anyone provide me some kind of food routines for breakfast, lunch & dinner?

I am working and living in KL, and my salary couldn't support 6 meal per day.

Please help.. Thanks
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jz the subway expensive nia.. around rm7.40 each.. thats the cheapest and healthiest food i found in taylors lakeside liaww.. if makan at the chinese restaurant would have cost me more than rm10 plus its not filling my stomach..

the eggs i buy normal eggs nia... if buy omega gg lor bro.. hahah
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Lol eat at Arena la ,the mix rice stores , what you pay there is twice as worth than any restaurant u eat in Sypoz.
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for somebody who trying to bulk up, I don't think, knowing each meal's calorie value is that important. You simply just need to eat more. If you think you can eat a lot and not gain size and weight, eat more than what you usually eat. I always thought that I can't get fat before, I was wrong. Just Eat More.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 11 2015, 03:49 PM)
for somebody who trying to bulk up, I don't think, knowing each meal's calorie value is that important. You simply just need to eat more. If you think you can eat a lot and not gain size and weight, eat more than what you usually eat. I always thought that I can't get fat before, I was wrong. Just Eat More.
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Doesn't important? I beg to differ.

If you don't know how much you need to eat a day to gain weight, then how would you know whether you have eaten enough for the day to gain weight? You will going to keep on repeating the "Eat More" mantra each day and step on the scale and hoping that you'll gain weight.
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Doesn't important? I beg to differ.

If you don't know how much you need to eat a day to gain weight, then how would you know whether you have eaten enough for the day to gain weight? You will going to keep on repeating the "Eat More" mantra each day and step on the scale and hoping that you'll gain weight.
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I see, it's ok to differ with my opinion. My point is, why bother knowing all the calorie values? The main point is trying to gain more weight, and no limit is set. So, just go on and just eat. If you think even without exercise, eating 3 times a day would do you no good in gaining more weight, simply eat 5 times a day. Knowing calorie values in my opinion is just more important on somebody who wants to get a specific target. If you want to bulk up but planning on gaining just the right amount of weight, go on ahead and get the numbers because that would help you in balancing the whole process. If simply trying to be fat since you're saying you can't get fat and has already bored being skinny, just eat more than you usually does. smile.gif
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Hi, newbie here... 47.xkg and height around 165-166cm

Can anyone provide me some kind of food routines for breakfast, lunch & dinner?

I am working and living in KL, and my salary couldn't support 6 meal per day.

Please help.. Thanks
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47kg for a man, is too skinny.
Just eat a lot of rice and you'll be fine. Try to get up to 5 times a day meal. If you don't have the budget for 5 times of meal, then you need to budget your regular meals so that you can support meals for 5 times a day. Try to drink less during eating so that you can eat more, drink a lot of water is important, just try to drink most after your meal.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 11 2015, 04:32 PM)
I see, it's ok to differ with my opinion. My point is, why bother knowing all the calorie values? The main point is trying to gain more weight, and no limit is set. So, just go on and just eat. If you think even without exercise, eating 3 times a day would do you no good in gaining more weight, simply eat 5 times a day. Knowing calorie values in my opinion is just more important on somebody who wants to get a specific target. If you want to bulk up but planning on gaining just the right amount of weight, go on ahead and get the numbers because that would help you in balancing the whole process. If simply trying to be fat since you're saying you can't get fat and has already bored being skinny, just eat more than you usually does. smile.gif
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One of the reason to calculate the calorie is to avoid the inconsistent of calorie consumption. Most of skinny guy struggling to gain weight doesn't know how much they eat and just eat based on their appetite. When you say eat more, how much is eat more? That's very vague term and hence calorie counting can totally avoid this problem. And a lot skinny guys always "think" they already eat a lot but when the food intake listed out, they realise some day they are eating too few. Or some just try to eat more on certain meals/day and forget about it since they don't feel hungry.

Counting calories isn't necessary at all but it is good practice during your beginning to diet/bulk or when you having problem lose/gain weight. It can be used to diagnose what's the main causes of your fail diet plan which normally is overeating/undereating. Once you get used to to it or after few months/years, you can estimate/know how much you need to eat to reach your goal.

QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 11 2015, 04:40 PM)
47kg for a man, is too skinny.
Just eat a lot of rice and you'll be fine. Try to get up to 5 times a day meal. If you don't have the budget for 5 times of meal, then you need to budget your regular meals so that you can support meals for 5 times a day. Try to drink less during eating so that you can eat more, drink a lot of water is important, just try to drink most after your meal.
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I'm not sure whether drink less water will increase your food intake but liquid calorie is the best for people with low appetite. That's why milk is one of the best bulking food.

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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 11 2015, 04:32 PM)
I see, it's ok to differ with my opinion. My point is, why bother knowing all the calorie values? The main point is trying to gain more weight, and no limit is set. So, just go on and just eat. If you think even without exercise, eating 3 times a day would do you no good in gaining more weight, simply eat 5 times a day. Knowing calorie values in my opinion is just more important on somebody who wants to get a specific target. If you want to bulk up but planning on gaining just the right amount of weight, go on ahead and get the numbers because that would help you in balancing the whole process. If simply trying to be fat since you're saying you can't get fat and has already bored being skinny, just eat more than you usually does. smile.gif
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Skinny guys who failed to gain weight always said that they eat a lot but they never able to eat the amount of food they need to gain weight. So are we gonna say, "Eat More, Eat More" to them again and again? Isn't it insanity because they kept doing the same thing to "Eat More, Eat More" yet they still aren't able to gain weight.

My method? Count them calories. I will know how much calorie I need, how much I have eaten a day and how much left I need to reach my calorie goal. If I need another 900kcal but during supper time, I'll make some quick BroTein Shake consist of PB, Full Cream Milk, Chilled Banana, Greek Yogurt and more stuff which will fulfill that 900kcal and BAM, caloric requirement achieve! End of week, my food log will show that I have a 7500kcal calorie surplus and that more or less translate to 1kg of weight gain on the scale.

Sure it's hard to count calorie but it's a fool proof method. You'll teach yourself discipline, consistency, you have your small goals and big goals, and you have knowledge to back it up.

Your method, it's just like flying blind, hoping to reach the end of the landing strips for safe landing.
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QUOTE(-ccy- @ May 11 2015, 04:41 PM)
One of the reason to calculate the calorie is to avoid the inconsistent of calorie consumption. Most of skinny guy struggling to gain weight doesn't know how much they eat and just eat based on their appetite. When you say eat more, how much is eat more? That's very vague term and hence calorie counting can totally avoid this problem. And a lot skinny guys always "think" they already eat a lot but when the food intake listed out, they realise some day they are eating too few. Or some just try to eat more on certain meals/day and forget about it since they don't feel hungry.

Counting calories isn't necessary at all but it is good practice during your beginning to diet/bulk or when you having problem lose/gain weight. It can be used to diagnose what's the main causes of your fail diet plan which normally is overeating/undereating. Once you get used to to it or after few months/years, you can estimate/know how much you need to eat to reach your goal.
I'm not sure whether drink less water will increase your food intake but liquid calorie is the best for people with low appetite. That's why milk is one of the best bulking food.
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I see, I see. You are definitely correct on the part that they eat with mood(appetite). Why I recommend the way I said, it is because that's how I gained weight. Other people definitely have other ways, even better ways. I gained 10kgs in just 3-6 month last time (55kg to 65kg), and now are feeling the consequences, hahaha. Maybe how it happened for me, doesn't necessarily possible for someone else but I'll tell how it happened.

During my degree years, eating is hard. I don't have that much money to spend on eating is one thing, not having a transportation to go eat is another. I ended up usually only eat when my friends are going to eat (because they have transportation) and sometimes they only eat once a day. That is how, I started craving to eat, even though it is enough that time, my mind have already remembered how hard is it to get food and eat.

So after I finished my degree, I went back home to stay with my parents and work as a freelance setting up a website. My mother usually would prepare breakfast before she went to work, usually it's nasi goreng and she usually would make more than any of us could finish. So I would eat breakfast (around 7am), then also finish the remaining food later (around 12am). When she comes back from work, she usually would bring back some kuih with her, so that kuih is my food (around 3pm). She would then cook dinner (which the same way she would cook breakfast, more than what we could eat) for us before or after resting for a while, and I would eat that dinner (around 6pm). Around 11pm or 12pm, there would still have leftover from the dinner she cooked so as a good son, I would finish the food at that time.

How can I eat so much? After having living on myself, I've understood the hardship of getting food, so when I went back home and saw the food my mother cooked wasn't finished, I simply can't stand by and just look the food goes to waste. Also as a good son, I would make my mother happy by finishing her hard effort on preparing our meals. biggrin.gif (My mother really is a wonder woman, I really cannot do so much activity daily)

Enough about me, why I said that less drinking during eating is because if you occupy your stomach space with water, you won't be able to stuff it with food there. Drinking milk is one way to get the extra meal you're missing.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 11 2015, 05:16 PM)

During my degree years, eating is hard. I don't have that much money to spend on eating is one thing, not having a transportation to go eat is another. I ended up usually only eat when my friends are going to eat (because they have transportation) and sometimes they only eat once a day. That is how, I started craving to eat, even though it is enough that time, my mind have already remembered how hard is it to get food and eat.

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I don't know how hard during your degree years. I just graduated August last year, and I must say, peanut butter works wonder during my bulk!

I believe Manlet is still studying too. Perhaps bro can share how you eat. I think I remember you saying nasi lemak laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Miracles @ May 11 2015, 05:25 PM)
I don't know how hard during your degree years. I just graduated August last year, and I must say, peanut butter works wonder during my bulk!

I believe Manlet is still studying too. Perhaps bro can share how you eat. I  think I remember you saying nasi lemak  laugh.gif
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I got transport go eat
But now nearing finals so no time go eat
Morning wake up go buy nasi lemak nearby then go campus study
buy roti and milk from 7-11 eat while studying at campus
On the way back home from exam passby macdonalds drive thru
When studying at home munch on cashew and peanuts and drink milo or protein shake haha
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 11 2015, 04:57 PM)
Skinny guys who failed to gain weight always said that they eat a lot but they never able to eat the amount of food they need to gain weight. So are we gonna say, "Eat More, Eat More" to them again and again? Isn't it insanity because they kept doing the same thing to "Eat More, Eat More" yet they still aren't able to gain weight.

My method? Count them calories. I will know how much calorie I need, how much I have eaten a day and how much left I need to reach my calorie goal. If I need another 900kcal but during supper time, I'll make some quick BroTein Shake consist of PB, Full Cream Milk, Chilled Banana, Greek Yogurt and more stuff which will fulfill that 900kcal and BAM, caloric requirement achieve! End of week, my food log will show that I have a 7500kcal calorie surplus and that more or less translate to 1kg of weight gain on the scale.

Sure it's hard to count calorie but it's a fool proof method. You'll teach yourself discipline, consistency, you have your small goals and big goals, and you have knowledge to back it up.

Your method, it's just like flying blind, hoping to reach the end of the landing strips for safe landing.
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hahaha, flying blind doesn't mean you won't reach your destination you know. Bats are blind and they can fly and reach their destination tongue.gif. The way I suggested is the way how I gained my weight.

The thing about eating more is pretty simple at least for me. Usually, people will eat lunch and later dinner, and that is somehow the standard(fixed) value. When you keep eating only lunch and dinner and didn't have any gain on weight, that means you're not eating enough, simple. If you maintain only lunch/dinner (one meal per day) definitely you'll lose weight even if you didn't count them calories. If you maintain your regular 2 meals per day and have no shift in weight basically means you're having just enough to maintain. Now, simply add in another meal or two for the daily meal equation and voila, you'll automatically have the extra calories you need to gain weight.

The problem with this method is not because it didn't count calories, it is because that person keeps on eating differently everyday. If he/she maintain the same kind of diet everyday, having an extra meal or two will definitely gain that calorie needed for the weight gain process. Also, this can be maintained with the same lifestyle, you can't expect to gain weight when you add 2 extra meals but goes on jogging for 5km the same time. Just with the same eating habit and lifestyle, if your weight won't add up, just add more meals.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 11 2015, 05:16 PM)
I see, I see. You are definitely correct on the part that they eat with mood(appetite). Why I recommend the way I said, it is because that's how I gained weight. Other people definitely have other ways, even better ways. I gained 10kgs in just 3-6 month last time (55kg to 65kg), and now are feeling the consequences, hahaha. Maybe how it happened for me, doesn't necessarily possible for someone else but I'll tell how it happened.

During my degree years, eating is hard. I don't have that much money to spend on eating is one thing, not having a transportation to go eat is another. I ended up usually only eat when my friends are going to eat (because they have transportation) and sometimes they only eat once a day. That is how, I started craving to eat, even though it is enough that time, my mind have already remembered how hard is it to get food and eat.

So after I finished my degree, I went back home to stay with my parents and work as a freelance setting up a website. My mother usually would prepare breakfast before she went to work, usually it's nasi goreng and she usually would make more than any of us could finish. So I would eat breakfast (around 7am), then also finish the remaining food later (around 12am). When she comes back from work, she usually would bring back some kuih with her, so that kuih is my food (around 3pm). She would then cook dinner (which the same way she would cook breakfast, more than what we could eat) for us before or after resting for a while, and I would eat that dinner (around 6pm). Around 11pm or 12pm, there would still have leftover from the dinner she cooked so as a good son, I would finish the food at that time.

How can I eat so much? After having living on myself, I've understood the hardship of getting food, so when I went back home and saw the food my mother cooked wasn't finished, I simply can't stand by and just look the food goes to waste. Also as a good son, I would make my mother happy by finishing her hard effort on preparing our meals. biggrin.gif (My mother really is a wonder woman, I really cannot do so much activity daily)

Enough about me, why I said that less drinking during eating is because if you occupy your stomach space with water, you won't be able to stuff it with food there. Drinking milk is one way to get the extra meal you're missing.
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I don't think you are the same case as those "hardgainer". You have that appetite to eat but you eat little due to your friend and environment factor which is limited food source and money. That's why when you get back to home and food is prepared, you eat the amount that you can eat and gaining weight. So if you start counting calories during your degree years, you will realise your food intake isn't enough and you should start getting some cheap bulking food such as bread and peanut butter. But for most skinny guys, they have the access to food but they just don't have the appetite to eat. Counting calories will "remind" them to eat and how much left to eat. If they are full, they should do like what alien9 suggested which is some protein milkshake which can contain up to 1k calories.

I'm not encouraging everyone to count calorie as I know a lot of my friend thinks that calorie counting is time wasting and planning what to eat is restricting their life. BUT if you want to reach your goal, calorie counting is the best and cheapest tool to help you achieve your goal. You have to sacrifice something for your goal.

ps: spending few minutes each day to key in what you eat each day isn't that difficult compared to surfing facebook for hours.

QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 11 2015, 05:30 PM)
The problem with this method is not because it didn't count calories, it is because that person keeps on eating differently everyday. If he/she maintain the same kind of diet everyday, having an extra meal or two will definitely gain that calorie needed for the weight gain process. Also, this can be maintained with the same lifestyle, you can't expect to gain weight when you add 2 extra meals but goes on jogging for 5km the same time. Just with the same eating habit and lifestyle, if your weight won't add up, just add more meals.
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If counting calories allows you to eat different food everyday and ensuring you will reach your goal, why don't you do it? Same eating habit everyday just not suitable for everyone. Plain rice, chicken breast and broccoli everyday? no thanks lol

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QUOTE(Miracles @ May 11 2015, 05:25 PM)
I don't know how hard during your degree years. I just graduated August last year, and I must say, peanut butter works wonder during my bulk!

I believe Manlet is still studying too. Perhaps bro can share how you eat. I  think I remember you saying nasi lemak  laugh.gif
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It's not that I cannot simply just eat peanut butter and bread, it's just that peanut butter and bread will cost more than rice if I'm only to consume just that. No budget to simply always restock bread, peanut butter and maggi mee. They simply wouldn't give the same feel of being full.

My life during degree years is not intolerable, it's just enough to make me feel that I shouldn't waste food when it is there, that's how I managed to get the appetite to eat when I'm back at my parent's house.
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QUOTE(-ccy- @ May 11 2015, 05:36 PM)
I don't think you are the same case as those "hardgainer". You have that appetite to eat but you eat little due to your friend and environment factor which is limited food source and money. That's why when you get back to home and food is prepared, you eat the amount that you can eat and gaining weight. So if you start counting calories during your degree years, you will realise your food intake isn't enough and you should start getting some cheap bulking food such as bread and peanut butter. But for most skinny guys, they have the access to food but they just don't have the appetite to eat. Counting calories will "remind" them to eat and how much left to eat. If they are full, they should do like what alien9 suggested which is some protein milkshake which can contain up to 1k calories.

I'm not encouraging everyone to count calorie as I know a lot of my friend thinks that calorie counting is time wasting and planning what to eat is restricting their life. BUT if you want to reach your goal, calorie counting is the best and cheapest tool to help you achieve your goal. You have to sacrifice something for your goal.

ps: spending few minutes each day to key in what you eat each day isn't that difficult compared to surfing facebook for hours.
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True, true but I am actually one of those hard gainer. I was 21kg in standard 3 and 31kg in standard 6. I finished SPM with my weight at 45kg and graduated degree with my weight around 55kg. The reason I tell the story is because before degree, I am staying with my parents and the same amount of food is there before too, just that I don't have the mood to eat. I gained such appetite is due to the environment during my degree years. Environment can only build the appetite, but the action of eating more is the one that gain me my kilos. hehe
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Is it OK if I bulk with only bodyweight exercise? I'm 175cm and 50kgs atm, how much caloric surplus should I go for? Is 500 too little or? Since I'm extremely underweight for my height.
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QUOTE(philip42 @ May 11 2015, 06:34 PM)
Is it OK if I bulk with only bodyweight exercise? I'm 175cm and 50kgs atm, how much caloric surplus should I go for? Is 500 too little or? Since I'm extremely underweight for my height.
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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ May 11 2015, 08:15 PM)
Calculate ur tdee
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QUOTE(philip42 @ May 11 2015, 08:18 PM)
Tdee 1.8k sedentary
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Imo 500 is the most highest amount of calorie surplus. More than that u'll gain fat. Who knows so u better try fr urself. The amount of surplus is between 300-500. Use myfitnesspal to track ur calories and macros.
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mcdonalds, kfc, triple ramli burgers.... fast foods maggie mee.. so we are less likely to take food health into consideration when bulking? do we? hmmmmm.......
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QUOTE(philip42 @ May 11 2015, 08:18 PM)
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10% of your TDEE should suffice. 500cal surplus is a bit too much. You would want to minimize fat gains. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Miracles @ May 11 2015, 09:34 PM)
10% of your TDEE should suffice. 500cal surplus is a bit too much. You would want to minimize fat gains.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ May 11 2015, 09:30 PM)
mcdonalds, kfc, triple ramli burgers.... fast foods maggie mee.. so we are less likely to take food health into consideration when bulking? do we? hmmmmm.......
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It depends. Those food choices are usually for people who don't care how much fat their gained during their bulking period. They'll eat what they want as long as they reached their bulking calorie requirement and usually will exceeds by a huge amount.

There are people who still eat healthy (not to confuse with clean) while bulking, making sure the macro and micro are consumed adequately asd keeping the fat gain to a very minimal.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 12 2015, 12:05 PM)
It depends. Those food choices are usually for people who don't care how much fat their gained during their bulking period. They'll eat what they want as long as they reached their bulking calorie requirement and usually will exceeds by a huge amount.

There are people who still eat healthy (not to confuse with clean) while bulking, making sure the macro and micro are consumed adequately asd keeping the fat gain to a very minimal.
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ May 11 2015, 03:42 PM)
i scare man... i had 2 times b4 and dua kali-dua kali pun lao sai like hell....  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Dang bro , that's sad. Lol .

QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 11 2015, 03:49 PM)
for somebody who trying to bulk up, I don't think, knowing each meal's calorie value is that important. You simply just need to eat more. If you think you can eat a lot and not gain size and weight, eat more than what you usually eat. I always thought that I can't get fat before, I was wrong. Just Eat More.
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Do that and you'll have more fat gains than muscle or no gains at all lol

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Dang bro , that's sad. Lol .
Do that and you'll have more fat gains than muscle or no gains at all lol
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Correct, because the point is to gain weight. hehe
If the point is gaining muscle mass, then, definitely need exercise, eat more protein and less fat biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 02:26 PM)
Correct, because the point is to gain weight. hehe
If the point is gaining muscle mass, then, definitely need exercise, eat more protein and less fat biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 02:26 PM)
Correct, because the point is to gain weight. hehe
If the point is gaining muscle mass, then, definitely need exercise, eat more protein and less fat biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 03:06 PM)
Errr yes? What is the problem with that statement?
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this thread suit me... currently i'm 170cm with 45kg +/-1 kg previously... now try hard to gain weight...
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ May 12 2015, 05:05 PM)
Tidak apa. For one who doesn't care about how much that goes into your body, there is no reason to explain what macros is and what fat does to your body. Cheers.
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I see, true true. That is why I said, if someone just plan on gaining weight, they just need to eat more than they are doing currently. The type of food or lifestyle doesn't really matter.

But if they plan to build/gain more muscle mass (bigger muscles), then definitely they'll need to start exercise and work out. They'll also need to observe their diet properly by taking less fat and more protein. A lot of carbohydrates too since they'll need the energy to work out and fill the stomach.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 05:14 PM)
I see, true true. That is why I said, if someone just plan on gaining weight, they just need to eat more than they are doing currently. The type of food or lifestyle doesn't really matter.

But if they plan to build/gain more muscle mass (bigger muscles), then definitely they'll need to start exercise and work out. They'll also need to observe their diet properly by taking less fat and more protein. A lot of carbohydrates too since they'll need the energy to work out and fill the stomach.
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QUOTE(elzp4000 @ May 12 2015, 05:12 PM)
this thread suit me... currently i'm 170cm with 45kg +/-1 kg previously... now try hard to gain weight...
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So do you already have a plan of action?
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 05:14 PM)
I see, true true. That is why I said, if someone just plan on gaining weight, they just need to eat more than they are doing currently. The type of food or lifestyle doesn't really matter.

But if they plan to build/gain more muscle mass (bigger muscles), then definitely they'll need to start exercise and work out. They'll also need to observe their diet properly by taking less fat and more protein. A lot of carbohydrates too since they'll need the energy to work out and fill the stomach.
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Well if your goal is just to increase your weight by looking at the scale then just eat whatever you can. I see no reason why people in this fitness & health forum would want to gain fat. Most wanna gain muscle mass with minimal fat.

And how do you know if you're not eating enough? by having 5 meals per day? What if ur busy throughout the day? u stuff urself with 2.5 portions twice? That's why counting calorie matters. Not saying its a must but at least have a rough figure of what ur eating.

Why less fat to build muscle?
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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 12 2015, 06:08 PM)
Well if your goal is just to increase your weight by looking at the scale then just eat whatever you can. I see no reason why people in this fitness & health forum would want to gain fat. Most wanna gain muscle mass with minimal fat.

And how do you know if you're not eating enough? by having 5 meals per day? What if ur busy throughout the day? u stuff urself with 2.5 portions twice? That's why counting calorie matters. Not saying its a must but at least have a rough figure of what ur eating.

Why less fat to build muscle?
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Well, do you suppose they should be asking in kopitiam then? I just give my suggestion to those who are asking how they can gain their weight, if you don't agree with it, feel free to share your suggestion.

How do you know you're not eating enough? Simple really, if your current diet didn't make any shift in your current weight, it means you're not eating enough to gain weight. The thing is, after you're done counting the calories, you still need to eat to get that missing calorie.

From what I know, fat wouldn't be muscle no matter how much or less you eat it. Muscle came from protein. The size of you muscle may look bigger with fat covering it, but the actual muscle are not. The point of taking in less fat is only to give you a better idea of how big your muscle really is.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 03:06 PM)
Errr yes? What is the problem with that statement?
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Bcos your statement is broscience material.

It's unhealthy to preach matters that are not the Way of the Iron Temple.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 06:22 PM)
Well, do you suppose they should be asking in kopitiam then? I just give my suggestion to those who are asking how they can gain their weight, if you don't agree with it, feel free to share your suggestion.

How do you know you're not eating enough? Simple really, if your current diet didn't make any shift in your current weight, it means you're not eating enough to gain weight. The thing is, after you're done counting the calories, you still need to eat to get that missing calorie.

From what I know, fat wouldn't be muscle no matter how much or less you eat it. Muscle came from protein. The size of you muscle may look bigger with fat covering it, but the actual muscle are not. The point of taking in less fat is only to give you a better idea of how big your muscle really is.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 06:22 PM)
Well, do you suppose they should be asking in kopitiam then? I just give my suggestion to those who are asking how they can gain their weight, if you don't agree with it, feel free to share your suggestion.

How do you know you're not eating enough? Simple really, if your current diet didn't make any shift in your current weight, it means you're not eating enough to gain weight. The thing is, after you're done counting the calories, you still need to eat to get that missing calorie.

From what I know, fat wouldn't be muscle no matter how much or less you eat it. Muscle came from protein. The size of you muscle may look bigger with fat covering it, but the actual muscle are not. The point of taking in less fat is only to give you a better idea of how big your muscle really is.
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Eating fat doesn't mean it will directly becomes fat nor eating protein will directly makes your muscle bigger. That's where you are wrong and that's due to your simple minded approach of gaining weight.

I'll say that no one here in this section want to gain weight and transform themselves from skinny bone to skinny fat (I guess you do) just so that they'll appear bigger.

It seems that you can see the flaws of your method due to:
1. You are never a hardgainer before, you only lacks money and transportation to go and eat food.
2. You have appetite of normal people. Hardgainer have appetite comparable of a skinny girl. They can't eat much and them knowing the amount they need to eat each day will force them to eat more (emphasis on force).
3. You don't really care on the outcome. Be a skinny fat is far more worse than be a skinny person. Nothing good comes from being a skinny fat. It's like "Out of frying pan into the fire".
4. You don't bother gathering more knowledge because "It works" on you. Yes it does, but not on the others. The calorie counting method is tried and tested by thousands if not millions of hardgainers.
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Eating fats doesn't really make you fat! Only eating more calories than your body needs will make you gain weight

Anyway, eating saturated fats (animal fats) and monosaturated fats are good for your health. Yes, eat more bacon and butter ! icon_idea.gif

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hahah.... dear mubarak90, if i was you i will just stop arguing.. since we have so many disagreements on your suggestion.. they even explained with the facts.. which make sense.. and...

i didnt meant to say what la also, im neutral, but counting the food intake would lead you to a healthier lifestyle this i couldnt agree more.. but we all have our ways to gain weight, which you kept on emphasizing it..

last but not least.. FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABEHH.... no hard feeling kayyy... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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hahah.... dear mubarak90, if i was you i will just stop arguing.. since we have so many disagreements on your suggestion.. they even explained with the facts.. which make sense.. and...

i didnt meant to say what la also, im neutral, but counting the food intake would lead you to a healthier lifestyle this i couldnt agree more.. but we all have our ways to gain weight, which you kept on emphasizing it..

last but not least.. FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABEHH....
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mind sharing me what food makes you so obsessed eh? drool.gif drool.gif
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glad to hear that.. hahah...

mind sharing me what food makes you so obsessed eh?  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Basically any sweet stuff like those in the bakery, breads, buns, cakes, tons of sweet drinks (air bandung, sirap, Pearl Milk Tea or anything sweet), chocolates, sweets, ice cream, cendol, desserts. Normal foods would be Sweet Rojak(both Indian and CHinese/Malay style) and all those CHinese/Malay/Indian food, if they're sweet I would enjoy them a lot more drool.gif I used to be hugely addicted with sugar sad.gif I consume sweet things EVERYDAY until one time I was almost diabetic lol. I always tell myself to cut down on sugar but it always fails.

And also quite addicted to carbs, which will be converted to sugar in the end, like rice, noodles, pasta (most of us still can't live without it) laugh.gif

But I've stopped consuming carbs or sweet stuff close to 1 month already since adopting the ketogenic diet. Cravings have dropped significantly though sometimes when I see people eating pasta/ramen I feel a bit sad sad.gif

For a keto diet, instead of using sugar/carbs as an energy source, my body uses fats for my daily activities smile.gif

As reported from most keto dieters, you're usually less hungry compared to a high carb diet.

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ May 12 2015, 06:53 PM)
Basically any sweet stuff like those in the bakery, breads, buns, cakes, tons of sweet drinks (air bandung, sirap, Pearl Milk Tea or anything sweet), chocolates, sweets, ice cream, cendol, desserts. Normal foods would be Sweet Rojak(both Indian and CHinese/Malay style) and all those CHinese/Malay/Indian food, if they're sweet I would enjoy them a lot more drool.gif  I used to be hugely addicted with sugar sad.gif I consume sweet things EVERYDAY until one time I was almost diabetic lol. I always tell myself to cut down on sugar but it always fails.

And also quite addicted to carbs, which will be converted to sugar in the end, like rice, noodles, pasta (most of us still can't live without it) laugh.gif

But I've stopped consuming carbs or sweet stuff close to 1 month already since adopting the ketogenic diet. Cravings have dropped significantly though sometimes when I see people eating pasta/ramen I feel a bit sad sad.gif

For a keto diet, instead of using sugar/carbs as an energy source, my body uses fats for my daily activities smile.gif

As reported from most keto dieters, you're usually less hungry compared to a high carb diet.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ May 12 2015, 06:53 PM)
Basically any sweet stuff like those in the bakery, breads, buns, cakes, tons of sweet drinks (air bandung, sirap, Pearl Milk Tea or anything sweet), chocolates, sweets, ice cream, cendol, desserts. Normal foods would be Sweet Rojak(both Indian and CHinese/Malay style) and all those CHinese/Malay/Indian food, if they're sweet I would enjoy them a lot more drool.gif  I used to be hugely addicted with sugar sad.gif I consume sweet things EVERYDAY until one time I was almost diabetic lol. I always tell myself to cut down on sugar but it always fails.

And also quite addicted to carbs, which will be converted to sugar in the end, like rice, noodles, pasta (most of us still can't live without it) laugh.gif

But I've stopped consuming carbs or sweet stuff close to 1 month already since adopting the ketogenic diet. Cravings have dropped significantly though sometimes when I see people eating pasta/ramen I feel a bit sad sad.gif

For a keto diet, instead of using sugar/carbs as an energy source, my body uses fats for my daily activities smile.gif

As reported from most keto dieters, you're usually less hungry compared to a high carb diet.
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then i super sure that you like to eat sugar butter buns.... that's one of my favorite tho... hehehe
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QUOTE(Miracles @ May 12 2015, 06:24 PM)
Bcos your statement is broscience material.

It's unhealthy to preach matters that are not the Way of the Iron Temple.
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I shall now remember this fact now, thank you stranger from distant land. May the Swolly Father bless you with muscles you're content with.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 12 2015, 06:33 PM)
Eating fat doesn't mean it will directly becomes fat nor eating protein will directly makes your muscle bigger. That's where you are wrong and that's due to your simple minded approach of gaining weight.

I'll say that no one here in this section want to gain weight and transform themselves from skinny bone to skinny fat (I guess you do) just so that they'll appear bigger.

It seems that you can see the flaws of your method due to:
1. You are never a hardgainer before, you only lacks money and transportation to go and eat food.
2. You have appetite of normal people. Hardgainer have appetite comparable of a skinny girl. They can't eat much and them knowing the amount they need to eat each day will force them to eat more (emphasis on force).
3. You don't really care on the outcome. Be a skinny fat is far more worse than be a skinny person. Nothing good comes from being a skinny fat. It's like "Out of frying pan into the fire".
4. You don't bother gathering more knowledge because "It works" on you. Yes it does, but not on the others. The calorie counting method is tried and tested by thousands if not millions of hardgainers.
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haha, ok2. You know me better than myself. You also know all the mentality of a skinny person. I never said that eating fat will directly turn it into fat nor do I say eating protein will directly makes your muscle bigger, but you know me better than I do, so you must be right.

It's okay, I'm not actually here to argue, I only try to answer the others over here. Didn't actually thought that the professionals and professors here would be annoyed with it.

Please people, if you are skinny, count those calories, you'll gain muscle and become fit. If you guys somehow are just eating more without counting the calories, it will all be a waste and turn to feces. Ignore all my comments here because it won't do you no good~

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hahah.... dear mubarak90, if i was you i will just stop arguing.. since we have so many disagreements on your suggestion.. they even explained with the facts.. which make sense.. and...

i didnt meant to say what la also, im neutral, but counting the food intake would lead you to a healthier lifestyle this i couldnt agree more.. but we all have our ways to gain weight, which you kept on emphasizing it..

last but not least.. FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABEHH.... no hard feeling kayyy...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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R u a man or woman? Lol
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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ May 12 2015, 07:00 PM)
wowww...... so u basically cant control yourself to go for sweet stuff.. wouldnt you feel bloated after taking too much of it? like 1 big bar of cadbury chocolate.. i can only take it half..  blink.gif  blink.gif

then i super sure that you like to eat sugar butter buns.... that's one of my favorite tho... hehehe
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Depending on which size you're referring to. If the small ones (40-50g), can easily eat 3-4 of them in one session. Like Kit Kat Chunky/Picnic for example (the ones u can find at 7 Eleven/KK Mart)

But cut down so much already, I hope I can stay disciplined when I get back to Msia for good. All those carbs temptations in Msia (99% Msian food revolve around carbs) sweat.gif


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QUOTE(-kytz- @ May 12 2015, 07:24 PM)
Can't a man enjoy his sweet stuff?  bruce.gif
Depending on which size you're referring to. If the small ones (40-50g), can easily eat 3-4 of them in one session. Like Kit Kat Chunky/Picnic for example (the ones u can find at 7 Eleven/KK Mart)

But cut down so much already, I hope I can stay disciplined when I get back to Msia for good. All those carbs temptations in Msia (99% Msian food revolve around carbs) sweat.gif
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Lol so u didn't like burgers, junk foods and oily fried food?

I would say more fr fats and carbs. I mean very high in fats
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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ May 12 2015, 07:45 PM)
Lol so u didn't like burgers, junk foods and oily fried food?

I would say more fr fats and carbs. I mean very high in fats
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KFC... 3 pieces original thigh dinner set + 1 Large Cheesy Wedges drool.gif

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Ya, I'm a big eater lol ! At least among my family members and friends la biggrin.gif

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Ohh for sure yeah, I love eating food in general, previous post was just talking about sweet stuff since I'm a sugar addict laugh.gif

Used to eat 2-3 Ramly burger daging special for supper drool.gif

KFC... 3 pieces original thigh dinner set + 1 Large Cheesy Wedges drool.gif

Mcdonalds... 2x Spicy Chicken McDeluxe tongue.gif

Ya, I'm a big eater lol ! At least among my family members and friends la biggrin.gif
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So for those ppl who'd said eating is hard, gaining weight is hard bla bla stuff like that then they need to think again. As for malaysia u should be grateful bcs tons of food can be found.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ May 12 2015, 07:50 PM)
Ohh for sure yeah, I love eating food in general, previous post was just talking about sweet stuff since I'm a sugar addict laugh.gif

Used to eat 2-3 Ramly burger daging special for supper drool.gif

KFC... 3 pieces original thigh dinner set + 1 Large Cheesy Wedges drool.gif

Mcdonalds... 2x Spicy Chicken McDeluxe tongue.gif

Ya, I'm a big eater lol ! At least among my family members and friends la biggrin.gif
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So for those ppl who'd said eating is hard, gaining weight is hard bla bla stuff like that then they need to think again. As for malaysia u should be grateful bcs tons of food can be found.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 07:13 PM)
haha, ok2. You know me better than myself. You also know all the mentality of a skinny person. I never said that eating fat will directly turn it into fat nor do I say eating protein will directly makes your muscle bigger, but you know me better than I do, so you must be right.

It's okay, I'm not actually here to argue, I only try to answer the others over here. Didn't actually thought that the professionals and professors here would be annoyed with it.

Please people, if you are skinny, count those calories, you'll gain muscle and become fit. If you guys somehow are just eating more without counting the calories, it will all be a waste and turn to feces. Ignore all my comments here because it won't do you no good~
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QUOTE(ahrapture @ May 13 2015, 01:06 AM)
I am skinny dude with a high metabolism. Never able to gain weight for the past 30 years.

Last month, I started on my first bulking mission. I fired up myfitness pal app to track my daily calorie intake.

Before mission
Weight : 50.1kg
Height 168cm
Age : 31

14 days mission
Weight : 52.5kg
Gym : 3-4 times / week
Calorie intake per day : Try to hit 2.5k (Most of the time left 100-200 calories)
Supplements : ON Serious Mass at night to top on top what I've eaten the whole day.

Considering that I have gained up to 2.3kg now, I think I am on the right track. Shall update more next week.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 12 2015, 05:17 PM)
So do you already have a plan of action?
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 13 2015, 11:40 AM)
I'm ending our discussion with an experience of one of our forumer:
Up to you to decide.
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Hi, i wanted to ask bout tracking macros. Im using fitnesspal and after setting my profile and goal, it workout a total of 2600 calories that i need to take to maintain my weight. If i wanted to bulk, do i eat more than 2600 calories everyday or only the day during workout? because during the time when we're not working out, we don't burn up so much calories and therefore we might not need to eat that much right?


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QUOTE(Polisher @ May 14 2015, 08:34 PM)
Hi, i wanted to ask bout tracking macros. Im using fitnesspal and after setting my profile and goal, it workout a total of 2600 calories that i need to take to maintain my weight. If i wanted to bulk, do i eat more than 2600 calories everyday or only the day during workout? because during the time when we're not working out, we don't burn up so much calories and therefore we might not need to eat that much right?
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The 2,600 calories daily intake is the average calculated based on the chosen exercise intensity.
If you'd like to bulk then you gotta add 300-500 calories on top of that and yes all those value is for daily intake.
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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 14 2015, 09:55 PM)
The 2,600 calories daily intake is the average calculated based on the chosen exercise intensity.
If you'd like to bulk then you gotta add 300-500 calories on top of that and yes all those value is for daily intake.
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Aduh, its really hard to swallow in that much food everyday. cry.gif cry.gif

i've been eating about 2900 calories for almost 1 week, and up till today i got really scared of seeing food. My stomach was like a big balloon and i don't feel comfortable doing my daily activites with my stomach so full all the time.

this morning i felt like giving up already because eating was suppose to be enjoyable but it turns out to be missionary now. i become picky with foods just so that it hit my calorie intake. really demotivating

so i was thinking whether i can choose to eat lesser or not tracking my macros during my non-workout day just so that me and my stomach can have a rest.

beginner here need some advice or some motivation from pro sad.gif sad.gif

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QUOTE(Polisher @ May 15 2015, 04:01 PM)
Aduh, its really hard to swallow in that much food everyday.  cry.gif  cry.gif

i've been eating about 2900 calories for almost 1 week, and up till today i got really scared of seeing food. My stomach was like a big balloon and i don't feel comfortable doing my daily activites with my stomach so full all the time.

this morning i felt like giving up already because eating was suppose to be enjoyable but it turns out to be missionary now. i become picky with foods just so that it hit my calorie intake. really demotivating

so i was thinking whether i can choose to eat lesser or not tracking my macros during my non-workout day just so that me and my stomach can have a rest.

beginner here need some advice or some motivation from pro  sad.gif  sad.gif
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When I bulk, peanut butter was my best friend. I didnt have to stuff that much food with it. Maybe eat smart, and not eat hard. laugh.gif

You could list down what you have been eating. So that, we can suggest alternative food ?

P/S: Money doesn't fall from the sky, so does muscle. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Miracles @ May 15 2015, 04:14 PM)
When I bulk, peanut butter was my best friend. I didnt have to stuff that much food with it. Maybe eat smart, and not eat hard.  laugh.gif

You could list down what you have been eating. So that, we can suggest alternative food ?

P/S: Money doesn't fall from the sky, so does muscle.  laugh.gif
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eat a lot, dont move too much.. maybe
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eat a lot, dont move too much.. maybe
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after stuffing that much food, i felt like throwing up if just sit around resting. I need to walk around hoping that the food will digest faster. cry.gif

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Higher meal frequency if you can't swallow that much food at once. Or diy your milkshake at night which can easily hit up to 1k calories so you don't need to eat so much solid food during the day. Btw, I would add in some fiber to your meal as well either fruit or vege.
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i've been there and experienced the same last time, until i found this video which works pretty well for me. I can finally not swallowing big food but still hitting calories

your diet was quite clean, thats why you need to eat alot in order to reach calories. Not to say eating clean wasnt good, but just like the video, you can alwiz be creative with your food. Put on a lil bit of cheat meal on top of your clean meal to boost your calories.

for example, your bread with peanut butter, spread another maybe chocolate nutella on other face of the bread, then u eat only 2 slices bread with peanut butter and chocolate together. Just a suggestion and also a share of experience. cheers.
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I'm glad I started counting calories so that I can control my eating. If not, I can eat non stop since I'm a big eater biggrin.gif
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please tell me how I can reach 3500 calories/day with minimal eating/costs?

What I do:
1 litre of coffee+milo/ovaltine+sugar+palm oil(4 spoon)
200gr of rice
4 pieces of eggs (scramble or omelette)
4 slice of bread+ovomaltine crunchy cream
40gr of cashew nut chocolate bar
1 apple

is this enough to get 3500 calories?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 08:31 AM)
please tell me how I can reach 3500 calories/day with minimal eating/costs?

What I do:
1 litre of coffee+milo/ovaltine+sugar+palm oil(4 spoon)
200gr of rice
4 pieces of eggs (scramble or omelette)
4 slice of bread+ovomaltine crunchy cream
40gr of cashew nut chocolate bar
1 apple

is this enough to get 3500 calories?
tks
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I really doubt that is even 2000 calories. Is that all you eat? Where is the meat?

To achieve 3500 calories u need to eat at least 2 extra 'regular' meals on top of of your breakie, lunch and dinner.

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never give up please,

here's the photo that i from 48 to 58 in 3 months,

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QUOTE(rakyat @ May 22 2015, 09:55 AM)
I really doubt that is even 2000 calories. Is that all you eat? Where is the meat?

To achieve 3500 calories u need to eat at least 2 extra 'regular' meals on top of of your breakie, lunch and dinner.
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can I add 5 packets of maggie to make it 3500 calories?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 11:01 AM)
can I add 5 packets of maggie to make it 3500 calories?
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Check the nutrition label behind la . 1 packet is approx (average) 300-400 more or less. Still, check to labelling .
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 08:31 AM)
please tell me how I can reach 3500 calories/day with minimal eating/costs?

What I do:
1 litre of coffee+milo/ovaltine+sugar+palm oil(4 spoon)
200gr of rice
4 pieces of eggs (scramble or omelette)
4 slice of bread+ovomaltine crunchy cream
40gr of cashew nut chocolate bar
1 apple

is this enough to get 3500 calories?
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reduce the coffee to 500ml
change the rice to oats
moar eggs
chocolate bar? change it to fruits to eat with oats.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 22 2015, 01:17 PM)
reduce the coffee to 500ml
change the rice to oats
moar eggs
chocolate bar? change it to fruits to eat with oats.
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I saw the label in chocolate bar 20gr = 110kcal. if I ate 500gr chocolate bar/day already 2750kcal.
I need light food that bring more kcal rather than food like chicken breast that make my stomach bloated.
any idea?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 01:24 PM)
I saw the label in chocolate bar 20gr = 110kcal. if I ate 500gr chocolate bar/day already 2750kcal.
I need light food that bring more kcal rather than food like chicken breast that make my stomach bloated.
any idea?
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Are you gonna eat 25 chocolate bars? If you aren't able to eat a lot, separate them to smaller meals.
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QUOTE(rakyat @ May 22 2015, 09:55 AM)
I really doubt that is even 2000 calories. Is that all you eat? Where is the meat?

To achieve 3500 calories u need to eat at least 2 extra 'regular' meals on top of of your breakie, lunch and dinner.
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just download myfitness pal. Counted my menu is 3,000 calories already.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 22 2015, 01:57 PM)
Are you gonna eat 25 chocolate bars? If you aren't able to eat a lot, separate them to smaller meals.
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just download myfitness pal. Counted my menu listed above is 3,000 calories already so no need so much chocolate bars. are you sure your breakfast alone already at least 1,500 calories bro?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 02:02 PM)
just download myfitness pal. Counted my menu listed above is 3,000 calories already so no need so much chocolate bars. are you sure your breakfast alone already at least 1,500 calories bro?
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My last night supper was 1L of Marigold HL Strawberry Milk + 2 large chill banana as a shake and 5 whole eggs because I eat less on dinner.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 22 2015, 02:25 PM)
My last night supper was 1L of Marigold HL Strawberry Milk + 2 large chill banana as a shake and 5 whole eggs because I eat less on dinner.
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How much your calories intake per day bro?

Here's mine. 3.7k calories. Is it enough? I exceeded protein intake without whey according my fitness pal already 130+gr.


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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 02:30 PM)
How much your calories intake per day bro?

Here's mine. 3.7k calories. Is it enough? I exceeded protein intake without whey according my fitness pal already 130+gr.
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How many eggs do you take to make that scramble eggs?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 02:30 PM)
How much your calories intake per day bro?

Here's mine. 3.7k calories. Is it enough? I exceeded protein intake without whey according my fitness pal already 130+gr.
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Is it just me or its something wrong here? Your breakie is basically fortified milo and it's 610 cal? And two eggs is already 730 cal? Doesn't add up.

I eat 5 meals and find it hard to meet my 2600 daily calories without throwing in a couple of beers as fillers wink.gif . My breakfast shake is hl milk + protein equals 500 calories less then your milo ± oil. I think you have over estimating.

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QUOTE(rakyat @ May 22 2015, 02:40 PM)
Is it just me or its something wrong here? Your breakie is basically fortified milo and it's 610 cal? And two eggs is already 730 cal? Doesn't add up.

I eat 5 meals and find it hard to meet my 2600 daily calories without throwing in a couple of beers as fillers. My breakfast shake is hl milk + protein shake equals 500 calories less then your milo ± oil. I think you are over estimating.
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2 cups of eggs require 6 extra large / 8 medium eggs. Either it's the standard "wrong selection" or he ate 16 medium eggs a day.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 22 2015, 02:42 PM)
2 cups of eggs require 6 extra large / 8 medium eggs. Either it's the standard "wrong selection" or he ate 16 medium eggs a day.
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He wrote 4 eggs (daily or per meal oso still not enuf) 2 egg is not even 100 calories right?
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He wrote 4 eggs (daily or per meal oso still not enuf) 2 egg is not even 100 calories right?
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One medium egg is around 80-90 calories. I guess he mistaken the "cup" as "pcs".
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QUOTE(rakyat @ May 22 2015, 02:45 PM)
He wrote 4 eggs (daily or per meal oso still not enuf) 2 egg is not even 100 calories right?
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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 22 2015, 02:47 PM)
One medium egg is around 80-90 calories. I guess he mistaken the "cup" as "pcs".
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yea, I am sorry mistakenly 1 cup = pcs. it should be 3tbsp = 1 pc.
How about my breakfast milo combo? any mistake? if no mistake I will just focus to add milo in breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snack.
milo: 640*4= 2560 cal
Chocolate bar (5)= 550 cal
rice (200gr) + scramble eggs(4) = 500 cal
1 maggie = 380 cal
orange juice = 100 cal

total : 4,090 cal

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Actually to fulfill 3000 calories daily for the average person who rely on outside food is quite difficult. Normally a portion of the average meal is about 500 to 600 calories (1 portion of noodles or nasi lemak or mixed rice) so you need to eat a larger portion like add rice, egg or meat to bump up to 800 or 900 calories. But 2 main meals and still less then 2000 cal. Breakie + supper or Inbtw is required for another 1000 cal.

Try maintaining this rate everyday. Yes someone will come in and say they whack 2000 calories just for their breakfast and everyday total 5000 cal. But how much will that cost to an Avg wage earner? Is it even possible without breaking the bank or cooking every meal your self?

Oso it's quite awkward when eating w other ppl to order double portions or extra extra...... especially when someone is treating or normally split bill equally (not A A)

This is my dilemma, m thinking of supplementing with mass gainer.

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 03:14 PM)
yea, I am sorry mistakenly 1 cup = pcs. it should be 3tbsp = 1 pc.
How about my breakfast milo combo? any mistake? if no mistake I will just focus to add milo in breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snack.
milo: 640*4= 2560 cal
Chocolate bar (5)= 550 cal
rice (200gr) + scramble eggs(4) =  500 cal
1 maggie = 380 cal
orange juice = 100 cal

total : 4,090 cal
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I don't think you can hit 2.5k with milo. Miscalculation there.
Why u want to eat all these empty calories? you need to hit ur macros too.
And why do u need 4k calories?
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QUOTE(rakyat @ May 22 2015, 03:19 PM)
Actually to fulfill 3000 calories daily for the average person who rely on outside food is quite difficult. Normally a portion of the average meal is about 500 to 600 calories (1 portion of noodles or nasi lemak or mixed rice) so you need to eat a larger portion like add rice, egg or meat to bump up to 800 or 900 calories. But 2 main meals and still less then 2000 cal. Breakie + supper or Inbtw is required for another 1000 cal.

Try maintaining this rate everyday. Yes someone will come in and say they whack 2000 calories just for their breakfast and everyday total 5000 cal. But how much will that cost to an Avg wage earner? Is it even possible without breaking the bank or cooking every meal your self?

Oso it's quite awkward when eating w other ppl to order double portions or extra extra...... especially when someone is treating or normally split bill equally (not A A)

This is my dilemma, m thinking of supplementing with mass gainer.
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this one cheaper than mass gainer:

http://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-squats-gallon-gain-weight/
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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 22 2015, 03:24 PM)
I don't think you can hit 2.5k with milo. Miscalculation there.
Why u want to eat all these empty calories? you need to hit ur macros too.
And why do u need 4k calories?
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actually the secret is not in milo. see the vegetable oil calories.
Maybe I will consider to add up my whey and bcaa consumption because eggs no whey right?

http://www.dietbites.com/diet-cooking-oil-calories.html

1 tbsp = 120 cal.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 03:14 PM)
yea, I am sorry mistakenly 1 cup = pcs. it should be 3tbsp = 1 pc.
How about my breakfast milo combo? any mistake? if no mistake I will just focus to add milo in breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snack.
milo: 640*4= 2560 cal
Chocolate bar (5)= 550 cal
rice (200gr) + scramble eggs(4) =  500 cal
1 maggie = 380 cal
orange juice = 100 cal

total : 4,090 cal
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I don't know what you are trying to do here man. Might as well eat 10 bags of 70g potato chips, with 320 - 350kcal each, and hit 3200 - 3500kcal. It is easier and on promo, it is RM2 a bag. 10 bags cost you RM 20 the whole day.

Go google real food.

Breakfast

Protein shake - 120kcal
100g Oat - 360kcal
Olive oil (1tbsp) - 120
Total - 600

Snack
30g almond - 190kcal
Yogurt with 10g raisins - 150kcal
Total - 340

Lunch
200g chicken breasts (pan fried)- 300kcal
1 bowl white rice - 300kcal
Deep fried egg - 200kcal
Vege - Free food. Eat all you want
Total - 800kcal

Snack
Peanut butter (2tbsp) - 210kcal
2 slices masimo bread - 190kcal
Total - 400kcal

Dinner
Gu lou yuk rice with fried egg - 900kcal
Total - 900kcal

Snack
2 medium bananas - 250kcal
2 large eggs - 150kcal
Total - 400kcal

Grand Total - 3440kcal

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 03:36 PM)
actually the secret is not in milo. see the vegetable oil calories.
Maybe I will consider to add up my whey and bcaa consumption because eggs no whey right?

http://www.dietbites.com/diet-cooking-oil-calories.html

1 tbsp = 120 cal.
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Most vegetable oil contain trans-fat and its not good for your health.
Egg & whey has proteins and that is all you need. BCAA not necessary.
Eat variety of food to bulk. Don't make the bulking look so hard and limited to certain food only. Where's the cheeseburger, pizza, nuts, peanut butter, milk, potato, fried chicken, etc?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 03:36 PM)
actually the secret is not in milo. see the vegetable oil calories.
Maybe I will consider to add up my whey and bcaa consumption because eggs no whey right?

http://www.dietbites.com/diet-cooking-oil-calories.html

1 tbsp = 120 cal.
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This is how you bulk boy
https://instagram.com/p/2GauFXjRIY/
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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 22 2015, 03:46 PM)
Most vegetable oil contain trans-fat and its not good for your health.
Egg & whey has proteins and that is all you need. BCAA not necessary.
Eat variety of food to bulk. Don't make the bulking look so hard and limited to certain food only. Where's the cheeseburger, pizza, nuts, peanut butter, milk, potato, fried chicken, etc?
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Here: https://instagram.com/p/1kNAHtDRAQ/?taken-by=armeshsingh

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^ what others said.

Peanut butter was my best friend when I did bulking. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 02:30 PM)
How much your calories intake per day bro?

Here's mine. 3.7k calories. Is it enough? I exceeded protein intake without whey according my fitness pal already 130+gr.
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u must be a huge guy. LOL. 3..7k calories per day blink.gif
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ May 22 2015, 06:19 PM)
u must be a huge guy. LOL. 3..7k calories per day  blink.gif
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This guy eat 12K kcal per day. His height is 193cm.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 22 2015, 06:22 PM)
This guy eat 12K kcal per day. His height is 193cm.
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lol. 12k, i would be broke if i need 12k caalories per day.

currently bulking @ 2628 calories @ 68kg, 171cm. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 22 2015, 06:22 PM)
This guy eat 12K kcal per day. His height is 193cm.
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Nonsense...
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ga.../1#.VV8EXEZcgsQ

All this extreme 15, 000/20, 0000 cal diet conform bullshit, not buying it.


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QUOTE(Miracles @ May 22 2015, 06:14 PM)
^ what others said.

Peanut butter was my best friend when I did bulking. laugh.gif
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my 6th meal today..lots of peanut butter

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QUOTE(Armesh @ May 22 2015, 06:08 PM)
lmao i cut with that.


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QUOTE(fas29 @ May 23 2015, 05:04 PM)
lmao i cut with that.
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He's a pro bb. No one eats more than him. If got, confirm bullshit.

This post has been edited by alien9: May 23 2015, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 23 2015, 06:41 PM)
He's a pro bb. No one eats more than him. If got, confirm bullshit.
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His lunch is a whole pack of cadbury notworthy.gif Hmmm
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lmao i cut with that.
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Whats your IG, I want to follow

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QUOTE(Armesh @ May 23 2015, 08:37 PM)
Whats your IG, I want to follow
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i dont post food picture but if you want you can follow my friend, Gannicholas for food porn https://instagram.com/gannicholas/
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i dont post food picture but if you want you can follow my friend, Gannicholas for food porn https://instagram.com/gannicholas/
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just show this

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is it true just one scoop produces 710 calories?


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just show this

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is it true just one scoop produces 710 calories?


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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 24 2015, 07:07 AM)
just show this

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is it true just one scoop produces 710 calories?
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Kindly check the serving size and you get the info.

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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 24 2015, 10:08 AM)
Kindly check the serving size and you get the info.
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My guess is at least 3-4 scoops hmm.gif
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My guess is at least 3-4 scoops hmm.gif
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yeah you are right.

I found that the cheapest protein in the market is tempeh. even cheaper by half compared with protein powder in the market.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/measuring-...looks-like.html
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 24 2015, 12:51 PM)
yeah you are right.

I found that the cheapest protein in the market is tempeh. even cheaper by half compared with protein powder in the market.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/measuring-...looks-like.html
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You should see what other bodybuilders eat. You don't see them eating 1000kcal worth of tempeh just to get 90g of protein.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 24 2015, 07:07 AM)
just show this

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is it true just one scoop produces 710 calories?
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Mass gainers usually has this huge ass scoop.

user posted image

Usually 3 or 4 times bigger than whey's sweat.gif so yea, one "scoop" of that mass gain produces 710, sure why not.
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QUOTE(Miracles @ May 24 2015, 02:21 PM)
Mass gainers usually has this huge ass scoop.

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Usually 3 or 4 times bigger than whey's  sweat.gif  so yea, one "scoop" of that mass gain produces 710, sure why not.
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Dat mass gainer is full of fillers some more sugar..
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 22 2015, 10:05 AM)
fitness can makes our body tonned too?
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