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TSyinchet
post May 31 2014, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 31 2014, 03:48 PM)
Thermals and CCD cameras at front and rear
NBC protection
BMS system link
Protection STANAG-4569 Level 4, with add-on applique armour
Semi-auto pneumatic computer suspension
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Thanks.
though it were a wishfull thinking I was hoping the government would opt for AMAP modules.

anyway I can't find any info on how much the thales deals on the av8.
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post May 31 2014, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 31 2014, 04:06 PM)
actually what is the most interesting is the Timeline
the ops is happen to be on the date when PM should be in China
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Which teams involved in the ops?
Paskal or ggk? hmm.gif
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post May 31 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 04:10 PM)
Which teams involved in the ops?
Paskal or ggk? hmm.gif
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main team is VAT/UTK but with military involvement too
esp the commando
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post May 31 2014, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 31 2014, 04:12 PM)
main team is VAT/UTK but with military involvement too
esp the commando
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So it going to be vat69 + ggk + paskal.
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post May 31 2014, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 04:17 PM)
So it going to be vat69 + ggk + paskal.
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abit of overkill correct me if im wrong.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 04:17 PM)
So it going to be vat69 + ggk + paskal.
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donno about paskal, but ggk maybe brows.gif

QUOTE(souless223 @ May 31 2014, 04:28 PM)
abit of overkill correct me if im wrong.
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overkill la baguih tongue.gif
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Got my question in at #iiss_asia #ShangriLaDialogue, how would Msia react if China parked an oil rig in its waters biggrin.gif

Check out @DzirhanDefence's Tweet: https://twitter.com/DzirhanDefence/status/472572925942300672
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How much better protection, fire support and C&C AV8 will have? Do they worth the high cost?
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The other dudes have mentioned their protection, but I would like to highlight one thing about the AV8, it will be modular bro. Modular.

This section is damaged? cabut and pasang a new one, like lego. Parts commonality and modularity will make future upgrade and repairs cheap. Researching and developing those lego parts definitely ain't cheap, especially when the base vehicle (FNSS PARS) is not originally made for modularity.
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QUOTE(xtemujin @ May 31 2014, 05:41 PM)
Got my question in at #iiss_asia #ShangriLaDialogue, how would Msia react if China parked an oil rig in its waters biggrin.gif

Check out @DzirhanDefence's Tweet: https://twitter.com/DzirhanDefence/status/472572925942300672
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full speech here

http://rentaka.weebly.com/blog/the-speech-...security-summit
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ May 31 2014, 06:07 PM)
The other dudes have mentioned their protection, but I would like to highlight one thing about the AV8, it will be modular bro. Modular.

This section is damaged? cabut and pasang a new one, like lego. Parts commonality and modularity will make future upgrade and repairs cheap. Researching and developing those lego parts definitely ain't cheap, especially when the base vehicle (FNSS PARS) is not originally made for modularity.
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niceeeeeeee~~~ thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post May 31 2014, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 04:08 PM)
Thanks.
though it were a wishfull thinking I was hoping the government would opt for AMAP modules.

anyway I can't find any info on how much the thales deals on the av8.
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applique armour is a broad statement,manatau dia letak AMAP

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 31 2014, 06:16 PM)
niceeeeeeee~~~  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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puih dia cakap macam salesman

modular is the new marketing buzz word.it used to be 'next-gen' or 'run-flats'

fixing it won't be that much cheaper but will take less amount of time.what used to take mechanics 2 weeks to do in a depot can now be done in the field in a few hours

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Indonesia will receive the first batch of ACS "Caesar" before the end of 2014

29.05.2014 TSAMTO

TSAMTO May 28. Land Forces of Indonesia until the end of the year will receive the first batch of 155-mm self-propelled guns "Caesar» (CAESAR - CAmion Equipe d'un Systeme d'ARtillerie) under the agreement signed with "Nexter cistemz» (Nexter Systems) contract.

According to the "International difenz Review ', ACS production carried out in accordance with the schedule at the plant in Roane (France), and ammunition - factory in Bourges.

As previously reported TSAMTO company "Nexter Systems" in November 2012, confirmed the conclusion of the Ministry of Defence Indonesia contract for the supply of the country NE 37 units. 155-mm self-propelled guns "Caesar." Cost of the program was estimated at 240 million dollars. Delivery schedule is planned to begin transfer of weapons systems in 2013-2014.

According to a recent statement by a source in the Ministry of Finance of Indonesia, only 34 will be purchased ACS worth 108 million euros (140 million dollars). Of this amount, 85% will be taken on credit (it should be noted that the information source in the Finance Ministry of the order reduction has not officially confirmed).

As of SW France, SAU "Caesar" supplied Indonesia, will be based on a truck chassis "Sherpa" 6x6 of "Renault Trucks difenz" (Saudi version installed on the chassis of "Mercedes-Benz").

In a related contract blanket agreement "Nexter Systems" will give the company «PT Pindad" technologies that will provide the service of artillery systems in Indonesia.

For CB Indonesia SPG "Caesar" will be delivered in the configuration with the right wheel and the cockpit, protected against small arms fire and shrapnel ammunition.

It is expected that the first two systems will be supplied NE Indonesia in late 2014. According to initial plans, SAU 18 entered service two divisions, one more will be used for training.

Indonesia is the fourth customer of ACS "Caesar." Saudi Arabia since 2006 three parties acquired 136 units on the chassis "Mercedes-Benz" with the wheel formula 6x6. Thailand received 6 ACS in 2009, and NE France ordered 72 plants and intend to get another 64 units.

Presumably, Saudi Arabia has also ordered a full set of ammunition "Nexter munishns» (Nexter Munitions), including modern Bonus Mk.II, firing range which is 35 km away.

"Nexter Systems' ACS also offers" Caesar "to other potential customers, including Denmark and India. Denmark is considering purchasing 18 units. India ACS offered on the chassis with the wheel formula 6x6 of "Ashok leyland difenz» (Ashok Leyland Defence). In addition, the Indian armed forces have a number of additional requirements, including increased ammunition.

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ACS "Caesar" is the only 155-mm self-propelled wheeled cannon artillery system, used Sun France. After completion of the five pre-test samples, 72 were delivered to the system serial French army in the period 2008-2011. They were used during operations in Afghanistan, Lebanon and Mali.

Armed with French army also consist 155mm tracked SPG AUF1 (placed on a modified chassis of the AMX-30) and 155-mm towed TRF1. It is assumed that they will be replaced by a second batch of 64 ACS "Caesar", which previously was scheduled for 2017-2020., But currently moved to the purchase in 2020.


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post May 31 2014, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 03:39 PM)
that depend on how you look at it.
I will write down the main spec.

Armor
It will 360° protection against 12.7mm caliber ap round.
AV8 C4ISR systems - Thales
HF and VHF radio communications system - STE
OICS - Thales VSys-net
optronics - Thales Catherine XP, DNGS TI and Sophie TAS/C

Variant

Surveillance - Rheinmetall Vingtaqs II (€36mil for development, intergration, documentation, training and equipment) 24unit
Two men turrets, atgm, rws - denel G130, G130+Ingwe atgm system, denel rws (€340mil include intergration, development, documentation, training and atgm missile) 178units.

There are still a few more varianta not much news I have on its.
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Any prediction, how much each unit of AV8 will actually cost, excluding R&D and infrastructure costs. Let's say the there will be 2nd batch production.
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post May 31 2014, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(souless223 @ May 31 2014, 04:28 PM)
abit of overkill correct me if im wrong.
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Overkill tu bagus.
dulu kat ld kita guna paveway bomb dia orang lagi overkill.

QUOTE(heavyduty @ May 31 2014, 07:45 PM)
applique armour is a broad statement,manatau dia letak AMAP

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Tak mungkin lar dia letak AMAP.
I dun see any AMAP looking armor sad.gif
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ May 31 2014, 08:25 PM)
Any prediction, how much each unit of AV8 will actually cost, excluding R&D and infrastructure costs. Let's say the there will be 2nd batch production.
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Depending on the amount build and which variants.
my guess it will at least reduce the price by half.
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Out of curiosity, why do planes cover their cockpits like this when on static display. Is it just to protect from heat or something else? (Along the lines of satelite imagery from potential enemies)

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Another example with the MKI
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QUOTE(aztechx @ May 31 2014, 08:42 PM)
Out of curiosity, why do planes cover their cockpits like this when on static display. Is it just to protect from heat or something else? (Along the lines of satelite imagery from potential enemies)

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Another example with the MKI
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Panaih, biasanya kapal terbang yang ada avionics system yang sensitip terpaksa tutup la
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 31 2014, 08:56 PM)
Panaih, biasanya kapal terbang yang ada avionics system yang sensitip terpaksa tutup la
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Oo lebeh kurang mcm ni la

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Hee..Sblom ni xpnah amek port pon tp sambil browse gambar cik su yg dirindui pelik plak. Russian knights pon tutup bila atas tarmac. Power sgt ke satelite sampai bole nampak dlm cockpit tu. blink.gif
Takkan su-27 russian knights tua bangka pon nak cover..haha

Ohh and by the way, these video of the russians su-35 and su-30sm really shows up close those amazing thrust vectoring nozzles in action..amazing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyrM3VHst1k


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lSkdEXkyZ_w


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QUOTE(heavyduty @ May 31 2014, 07:45 PM)
applique armour is a broad statement,manatau dia letak AMAP
puih dia cakap macam salesman

modular is the new marketing buzz word.it used to be 'next-gen' or 'run-flats'

fixing it won't be that much cheaper but will take less amount of time.what used to take mechanics 2 weeks to do in a depot can now be done in the field in a few hours
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oh aku dah jadi bisnesman lak sekarang.
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ May 31 2014, 08:25 PM)
Any prediction, how much each unit of AV8 will actually cost, excluding R&D and infrastructure costs. Let's say the there will be 2nd batch production.
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We'll never know until deftech start the production of these machines
But in terms of estimation, a baseline pure apc FNSS Pars 8x8 "long-wheelbase version" (without weapons) would cost $800,000, so go figure

Malaysian 8x8 evaluation phase
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From left to right,
APC PIRANHA III - $1,200,000
PARS 8X8 - $1,000,000
ROSOMAK - $2,900,000

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