We should have 2 versions: AV8 & AV6

And this one....iveco LMV which I like it better compare to humvee/vamtac....



Can be given to all infantry units...plus navy & airforce for base defence.

We should have 2 versions: AV8 & AV6

And this one....iveco LMV which I like it better compare to humvee/vamtac....

Can be given to all infantry units...plus navy & airforce for base defence.

why would the MA need both a 8x8 and 6x6 version?

dont compare the iveco LMV with humvee la weh 

the otokar cobra is more likely for malaysia

it can replace the defender and G-class in combat roles

proton accord can replace defender in office role

sakit ati aku tengok LR defender dengan pintle mount dia pegi guna buat hantar surat pejabat

We should have 2 versions: AV8 & AV6

And this one....iveco LMV which I like it better compare to humvee/vamtac....



Can be given to all infantry units...plus navy & airforce for base defence.

AV8 is supposed to be backbone for the 'future' malaysian army.the condor is old as shit but still workable

why would the MA buy something that would be obsolete once its on the ground?the AV-8 is going to be the main vehicle for the next 30-40 years

the Anoa was developed out of desperation.they needed an APC that could be made quick and cheap,doesnt care if its shit

can something like the anoa provide a cheap solution to the condor?yes for the immediate future.is it any better than the condor?no

TNI wants to establish more motorized units,thus it can be understandable for them to use the Anoa.the MA is trying to move forward to a new phase of fighting capability,the cheap Anoa is not what they need

btw,as a vehicle commander the notion that IFVs are disposable is     

Why I suggest this?? If u go to any infantry, airforce & navy base....there is no special vehicles for base protection unless u go to mechanized or armour units. Here....we just depending on a sandbags as protection against any threat. At least if we have this light armoured vehicles, it can be use anyway by base protection teams.

The question is.... "Is expensive, next generation APC really necessary?"

Anoa could already protect troops from small arms fire/shrapnel, provide basic fire support and feature BMS for command versions for $800,000. Those are basic requirements of APCs.

Would AV8 really make difference in battlefield, compared if Malaysian Army uses APCs based on simpler designs? Especially when facing infantry units equipped with light ATGM like NLAW?

The question is.... "Is expensive, next generation APC really necessary?"

Anoa could already protect troops from small arms fire/shrapnel, provide basic fire support and feature BMS for command versions for $800,000. Those are basic requirements of APCs.

Would AV8 really make difference in battlefield, compared if Malaysian Army uses APCs based on simpler designs? Especially when facing infantry units equipped with light ATGM like NLAW?

if the AV8 provides better protection,better fire support and better C&C then yes

the presence of ATGMs doesnt mean APCs need to be fodder.tanks are just as susceptible to anti armour fire

why provide soldiers with body armour,helmets and NODs while snipers could take them out?

What most important now is having situation awareness and couple it with ncw will make a huge different on battlefield.
Av8 is build on these in mind.
Some apc equipe active protection system like the amap-ads on cv90s

Of course PRC is better equipped.....

Are u sure hostage exchanged?? Where did u get this info??

i tot u r pegawai at esscom? u dunno?

OSA la bro.. how to give u

Hmm, I'm going through puma ifv.
Wow they are adding quite lots of AMAP modules into it.

I am not officer in esscom..... but I still can access that matters. Btw...the kidnappers are not MILF, so how they change with MILF.....Lawak apakah ini??

lel teringat aku masa kes al-maunah dulu, masa tu aku sekolah kat kem terendak,
lepas kes tu terus letak condor satu kat gate tuh, siap ngan sandbag sekali

toksah layan la, poser kuat tu
balik main OSA,

alaskanbunny ko duk SG kan?
lagi senang kerja aku!

The question is does Boustead really need an upgrade?

Remember PT.PAL also is in a Tot Scheme with Damen for building the Sigma PKR 10514 with a 2 ships programme. PT.PAL didn't need any upgrades to it's shipyard. The only thing that PT.PAL need is to build the submarine facility & machines for the korean sub.

Gowind is bigger and the tonnage capacity is almost double of that meko design

Though I got no problem if the gomen just pursue the meko design for batch 2 of kedah class instead of new gowind design,
Patent issue? I dunno