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KYPMbangi
post May 28 2014, 07:19 PM

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Reporting in

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There's a news circulating about a certain political party representative making comments of RAMD in facebook right now,
however the validity of the post (whether the person did post it) is speculated to be a fake

KYPMbangi
post May 28 2014, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 28 2014, 07:53 PM)
Pasal ape tu??
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PM'ed you, but be caution, most probably a fake post
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post May 28 2014, 10:07 PM

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The suspect been arrested, looks like he turned himself in

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Suspect in Lahad Datu shooting arrested

LAHAD DATU: The commando who allegedly opened fire outside a 24-hour convenience store,
killing another soldier and injuring two civilians on Wednesday has been detained by police.

The commando was one of 11 military personnel arrested in the afternoon in connection with Wednesday morning’s shooting.

A total of 14 people were detained for questioning.

[The Star]





KYPMbangi
post May 29 2014, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ May 29 2014, 06:39 AM)
this .. about dyana commented on RAMD?
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Yup, a fake post
KYPMbangi
post May 29 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Naskah @ May 29 2014, 11:05 AM)
why we keep busy replacing MIG than this hawk? i think these hawk is more ancient than MIG though.  hmm.gif
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Cuz migs fast interceptor role is hard to come by
KYPMbangi
post May 29 2014, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 29 2014, 01:34 PM)
pm aku gak hahaha
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pm'ed
KYPMbangi
post May 29 2014, 01:56 PM

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Indian Air Force loses another MiG-21 fighter

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An Indian Air Force (IAF) MiG-21 'Fishbed' combat aircraft crashed during a routine training sortie on 27 May, killing the pilot.

The single-seat fighter came down in a sparsely populated area of the country's South Kashmir region.
The pilot failed to eject and was killed.

The cause of the accident was not known at the time of writing, and the Indian authorities have launched an investigation.


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KYPMbangi
post May 29 2014, 09:50 PM

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Abandoned Petronas oil rigs in Sabah waters to be converted into Esscom bases

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LAHAD DATU: The Government will utilise abandoned Petronas oil rigs located around the Eastern Sabah Security Zone (Esszone) as a forward operation bases (FOB).

Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim said the Ministry and the Eastern Sabah Security Command (Esscom) were in the process of identifying appropriately-located oil rigs near the border.

"We will reveal later as to the number of abandoned oil rigs that would be converted into FOBs. In the meantime we will deploy security boats or ships," he told reporters after handing over 30 Rigid Hull Fender Boats (RHFB) to Chief Minister Datuk Seri Musa Aman, who is also Esscom chairman, at the Marine Police operations base here Thursday.

Meanwhile, Musa said the establishment of Esscom and gazetting of Esszone would have no positive impact without integrated action to ensure that the land and waters off Sabah's east coast were free from all forms of threats and intrusions.

"The people must also help the security agencies, not only through providing moral support, but by channelling relevant information that could help to thwart any potential intrusion and threat to the country," he said.

Meanwhile, National Security Council secretary Datuk Mohamed Thajudeen Abdul Wahab said the Government has spent RM50.76mil to procure the 30 RHFBs supplied by four local companies.

He disclosed the companies as MSET Inflatable Composit Sdn Bhd which was awarded a RM17.64mil contract to supply nine RHFBs to the Malaysian Armed Forces; Kay Marine Sdn Bhd (nine RHFBs worth RM17.58mil for the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency); Dalac Marine Engineering and Services Sdn Bhd (six RHFBs worth RM7.79mil for the Marine Police); and Destination Marine Services Sdn Bhd (six RHFBs worth RM7.75mil for the Marine Police).

He said the high-powered boats were bullet proof, equipped with modern specifications and had a speed of 50 knots (92.6 km) per hour.

"The boats are also equipped with a situation awareness system, which is a combination of the Forward Looking Infra Red system and radar that could detect and intercept intrusions," he said.

Thajudeen said the crew underwent training early last month and were ready to be mobilised at any time. - Bernama


[The Star]
KYPMbangi
post May 29 2014, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 29 2014, 10:05 PM)
How does the boat looks like??
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From the 30, 9 to army, 9 to MMEA, and 12 to Polis marin

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post May 29 2014, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 29 2014, 10:37 PM)
Yg baju putih tu bg sape plak??

Dah jadi standard mane2 bot atau kapal kt malaysia ni guna GPMG 7.62mm. Biasa utk tembakan bantuan di laut better guna larger calibre mcm HMG 12.7mm at least. Klu perasan... TLDM masih guna GPMG pd kedua2 port & starboard wings kapal perangnye whereas negara lain dh move ke 12.7mm. Kedah class, as latest ship dlm TLDM yg the only pakai 12.7mm skarang.
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Which pic? that awek ah? laugh.gif
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post May 31 2014, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 31 2014, 03:46 AM)
everywhere in SEA got new militray purchase, we are one of the only that have not done any significant purchase apart from the Gowind purchase

but from the rumored gowind specs, kinda a little disappointment that it cant even afford a proper ciws for that kind of price
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So many list to buy but no money spared by govement  cry.gif
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I forwarded the same question to yinchet, he will explain to you the deal also includes the expenditure to build and upgrade boustead shipyards that can support 3000+ tonnes vessels, the ToT to build ships and then the ships itself.

So the whole deal is, Shipyards + Ship building ToT + Ships, not just ships (sgpv)
I hope future local procurement will be justified in terms of cost cuz the infras is ady there (shipyards, tech and factory)
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post May 31 2014, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ May 31 2014, 08:29 AM)
aren't this also the same deal that we suppose to get with NGPV?
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Gowind is bigger and the tonnage capacity is almost double of that meko design

Though I got no problem if the gomen just pursue the meko design for batch 2 of kedah class instead of new gowind design,
Patent issue? I dunno
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post May 31 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(red streak @ May 31 2014, 09:47 AM)
Just curious. Does our local defense industry have the ability to make produce our own armaments like the missiles, mortars, bullets and stuff like Indonesia is starting to do? Because during the Falklands War, France actually helped the UK against their own customers (the Argentinians) by giving them the detailed intel and source code on the hardware they sold to them after the UK suffered significant losses (including a Destroyer or two) from the French-made missiles. If we can develop our own armaments then we wouldn't have to depend on foreign countries as much since they wouldn't think twice about turning on us and assisting any of our "enemies".
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Small to large caliber round? yes, SME ordnance is an example
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Missile and rocket with propellant? Still in research phase by STRIDE colab with USM

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post May 31 2014, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ May 31 2014, 12:02 PM)
Perhaps, it is the matter where we should prioritize quality...on APC, artillery or tank?

One AV8 is equal in cost to two units of Leopard 2RI. The tank is one of the ground assets with high technological quality.

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Again, I know we shouldn't compare MBT with APC. But, the money should be spent accordingly to get the biggest bang for the buck.
103 Leopard 2 and 50 marder IFV for less than $300 million. Also, to mechanize one infantry battalion, TNI only needs to spend $45 million with simpler APCs.

Instead of buying AV8, perhaps Malaysia could settle with building simpler APCs and use the spare cash to buy other quality stuff instead, like more artillery, ATGM and tank
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Production cost is not the same as the whole development cost, pindad also had to make some domestics loans to startup the manufacturing of the anoas, and that would be considered development cost

The deal with AV8 is to build the local industry complete with infras and tech transfered from FNSS

The same as Pindad building the anoa's, they also needs funds to develop the infras and research facility rite?
Not like they know how to build APC from the scratch, as you said the anoa is from french VAB design


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post May 31 2014, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 31 2014, 12:50 PM)
Why I suggest this?? If u go to any infantry, airforce & navy base....there is no special vehicles for base protection unless u go to mechanized or armour units. Here....we just depending on a sandbags as protection against any threat. At least if we have this light armoured vehicles, it can be use anyway by base protection teams.
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lel teringat aku masa kes al-maunah dulu, masa tu aku sekolah kat kem terendak,
lepas kes tu terus letak condor satu kat gate tuh, siap ngan sandbag sekali
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post May 31 2014, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 01:01 PM)
What most important now is having situation awareness and couple it with ncw will make a huge different on battlefield.
Av8 is build on these in mind.
Some apc equipe active protection system like the amap-ads on cv90s
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True, considering MAF basic infantry section is equipped with 2 RPG-7 gunner and 1 six-shot milkor grenade launcher, who in their right mind would spam APCs head-on with them? That's suicide

At least IFVs would stand a better chance
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post May 31 2014, 01:38 PM

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Ignore teh trolling bunny
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post May 31 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 03:39 PM)
that depend on how you look at it.
I will write down the main spec.

Armor
It will 360° protection against 12.7mm caliber ap round.
AV8 C4ISR systems - ThalesHF and VHF radio
communications system - STEOICS - Thales VSys-net
optronics - Thales Catherine XP, DNGS TI and Sophie TAS/C

Variant

Surveillance - Rheinmetall Vingtaqs II (€36mil for development, intergration, documentation, training and equipment) 24unit
Two men turrets, atgm, rws - denel G130, G130+Ingwe atgm system, denel rws (€340mil include intergration, development, documentation, training and atgm missile) 178units.

There are still a few more varianta not much news I have on its.
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Thermals and CCD cameras at front and rear
NBC protection
BMS system link
Protection STANAG-4569 Level 4, with add-on applique armour
Semi-auto pneumatic computer suspension
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post May 31 2014, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ May 31 2014, 08:25 PM)
Any prediction, how much each unit of AV8 will actually cost, excluding R&D and infrastructure costs. Let's say the there will be 2nd batch production.
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We'll never know until deftech start the production of these machines
But in terms of estimation, a baseline pure apc FNSS Pars 8x8 "long-wheelbase version" (without weapons) would cost $800,000, so go figure

Malaysian 8x8 evaluation phase
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From left to right,
APC PIRANHA III - $1,200,000
PARS 8X8 - $1,000,000
ROSOMAK - $2,900,000
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:17 PM

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