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post May 31 2014, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 31 2014, 01:37 PM)
I am not officer in esscom..... but I still can access that matters. Btw...the kidnappers are not MILF, so how they change with MILF.....Lawak apakah ini??
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how u know not milf? hmm.gif
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post May 31 2014, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 31 2014, 01:49 PM)
how u know not milf?  hmm.gif
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Hahaa....OSA.... locals know better than outsiders....
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post May 31 2014, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 09:35 AM)
There were no issue on the kedah class batch2.
boustead did submit bidding on her own design based on meko class unfortunately they lost.
German counter part also did offer meko cls design but it was the most expensive among all bidder design.

As for sgpv it does allocate large portion of its cost on the shipyard upgrade. I would not be surprised if it cost over usd200mil for the upgrade.
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They should propose Meko200 or Meko D (3000 tons class) insist Meko CLS which too expensive.
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post May 31 2014, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 31 2014, 01:58 PM)
They should propose Meko200 or Meko D (3000 tons class) insist Meko CLS which too expensive.
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They need customers on meko cls.
Seem like now they dun have any customer for meko cls.
after lossing on malaysia and Israel bids.
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post May 31 2014, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 31 2014, 01:49 PM)
how u know not milf?  hmm.gif
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Haha.... locals know better than outsiders.
How do I know its not milf?? How do u know its milf?? Which is totally not true. Milf is an organization. U should know how to relate this milf with us.
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 31 2014, 01:49 PM)
how u know not milf?  hmm.gif
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post May 31 2014, 02:13 PM

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Pilak have lots of terrorist clan.
Anyway I dun think it would be milf given that we successful broker a peace deal btw milf and pilak government.

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post May 31 2014, 02:19 PM

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whats wrong with AV8..? i like them..expensive at first coz we still trying & learning to build them on our own...once every infra are ready, cost may be cheaper.. smile.gif

eventhough some stuff are cheaper if we buy it outside, we can't always buy from foreign countries, what if we at war with the country or its allies..surely they wouldn't sell us the spare parts/equipment necessary for their product to us coz of that..it's time for M'sia to advance her own arms industries...using our own locally-made weapons,tanks,ships,aircraft in the future..

i do wonder why Meko design is not used for NGPV since we already have the blueprint instead of Gowind, cost should be cheaper if proceed with Meko no? blink.gif

anyway, when will we create our own plane? lel..since Army have go on with locally-made AV8, while Navy proceed with Meko and Gowind.. biggrin.gif
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post May 31 2014, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 02:13 PM)
Pilak have lots of terrorist clan.
Anyway I dun think it would be milf given that we successful broker a peace deal btw milf and pilak government.
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No need to worry relationship with milf..... its abu sayaf & other pilak groups that we need to deal with. MILF not even from that islands....
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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 02:13 PM)
Pilak have lots of terrorist clan.
Anyway I dun think it would be milf given that we successful broker a peace deal btw milf and pilak government.
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I hope it wasn't MILF considering their benefactors
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post May 31 2014, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 31 2014, 02:19 PM)
whats wrong with AV8..? i like them..expensive at first coz we still trying & learning to build them on our own...once every infra are ready, cost may be cheaper.. smile.gif

eventhough some stuff are cheaper if we buy it outside, we can't always buy from foreign countries, what if we at war with the country or its allies..surely they wouldn't sell us the spare parts/equipment necessary for their product to us coz of that..it's time for M'sia to advance her own arms industries...using our own locally-made weapons,tanks,ships,aircraft in the future..

i do wonder why Meko design is not used for NGPV since we already have the blueprint instead of Gowind, cost should be cheaper if proceed with Meko no?  blink.gif

anyway, when will we create our own plane? lel..since Army have go on with locally-made AV8, while Navy proceed with Meko and Gowind.. biggrin.gif
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Aircraft manufacturing expensive build.
at best we can go for manufacturing partnership which we already done that with a400m.

boustead did try bid with their own design perhaps the navy perhaps navy still not confident enough with them so decided to go for other instead.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 31 2014, 02:27 PM)
No need to worry relationship with milf..... its abu sayaf & other pilak groups that we need to deal with. MILF not even from that islands....
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Yup.
Especially those small terror clans are very annoying to dealt with.
only if we have dozen of killer on the sky.

QUOTE(heavyduty @ May 31 2014, 02:31 PM)
I hope it wasn't MILF considering their benefactors
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Dun worry.
but we need to look out for those mnlf, abu sayaf and some self proclaimed sultan army.
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post May 31 2014, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(heavyduty @ May 31 2014, 01:01 PM)
if the AV8 provides better protection,better fire support and better C&C then yes

the presence of ATGMs doesnt mean APCs need to be fodder.tanks are just as susceptible to anti armour fire

why provide soldiers with body armour,helmets and NODs while snipers could take them out?
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How much better protection, fire support and C&C AV8 will have? Do they worth the high cost?


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QUOTE(heavyduty @ May 31 2014, 02:31 PM)
I hope it wasn't MILF considering their benefactors
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nope, this is more to Abu Sayyaf link cluster group
believe it or not there is many Abu Sayyaf link group in Jolo alone,
they gain monetary fund from them.
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post May 31 2014, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 31 2014, 02:54 PM)
nope, this is more to Abu Sayyaf link cluster group
believe it or not there is many Abu Sayyaf link group in Jolo alone,
they gain monetary fund from them.
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But someone claim he know everything & its from MILF... and he keeps it as OSA.... Although he never check where is MILF suppose to be.... where is abu sayaf suppose to be.... philipine is not consist of 10 islands....

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ May 31 2014, 02:43 PM)
How much better protection, fire support and C&C AV8 will have? Do they worth the high cost?
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that depend on how you look at it.
I will write down the main spec.

Armor
It will 360° protection against 12.7mm caliber ap round.


AV8 C4ISR systems - Thales
HF and VHF radio communications system - STE
OICS - Thales VSys-net
optronics - Thales Catherine XP, DNGS TI and Sophie TAS/C

Variant

Surveillance - Rheinmetall Vingtaqs II (€36mil for development, intergration, documentation, training and equipment) 24unit
Two men turrets, atgm, rws - denel G130, G130+Ingwe atgm system, denel rws (€340mil include intergration, development, documentation, training and atgm missile) 178units.

There are still a few more varianta not much news I have on its.

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post May 31 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 03:39 PM)
that depend on how you look at it.
I will write down the main spec.

Armor
It will 360° protection against 12.7mm caliber ap round.
AV8 C4ISR systems - ThalesHF and VHF radio
communications system - STEOICS - Thales VSys-net
optronics - Thales Catherine XP, DNGS TI and Sophie TAS/C

Variant

Surveillance - Rheinmetall Vingtaqs II (€36mil for development, intergration, documentation, training and equipment) 24unit
Two men turrets, atgm, rws - denel G130, G130+Ingwe atgm system, denel rws (€340mil include intergration, development, documentation, training and atgm missile) 178units.

There are still a few more varianta not much news I have on its.
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Thermals and CCD cameras at front and rear
NBC protection
BMS system link
Protection STANAG-4569 Level 4, with add-on applique armour
Semi-auto pneumatic computer suspension
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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 31 2014, 03:01 PM)
But someone claim he know everything & its from MILF... and he keeps it as OSA.... Although he never check where is MILF suppose to be.... where is abu sayaf suppose to be.... philipine is not consist of 10 islands....
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he is as knowledgeable Tony P with his SGPV!
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 31 2014, 03:50 PM)
he is as knowledgeable Tony P with his SGPV!
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Sudahlar tu biar dia je lar.

but interesting to knowing we are going in for ops perhaps china decide not to nego with terrorist policy? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 04:00 PM)
Sudahlar tu biar dia je lar.

but interesting to knowing we are going in for ops perhaps china decide not to nego with terrorist policy? hmm.gif
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actually what is the most interesting is the Timeline
the ops is happen to be on the date when PM should be in China


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