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azriel
post Jun 1 2014, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 1 2014, 10:57 PM)
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He was referring to this Q&A.

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Q9. When will the EC-725 Cougar helicopter fleet will receive their self protection system , refueling probe and weapons ?

Answer. The primary role of the RMAF EC725 aircraft now is for SAR and utility. For the record, this aircraft has the capability to be upgraded for Combat SAR. The focus now is to reach full Operational Capability by the end of June. Increased in capacity depends on the government.

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post Jun 1 2014, 11:08 PM

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hi...im new to this thread can i join the club?...im interested in military technologies
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 1 2014, 10:54 PM)
Aku paling sedih bab EC725 tu....masa beli mati2 aku dh ingt ready utk CSAR....tp PTU kata upgrade tu depend pd kerajaan plak...

Ni jadi mcm kes NGPV.....fitted for but NEVER with.....
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Cuma tinggal weapon pod je.
Ada yg kata dah beli dah cuma nak remain low profile.

QUOTE(fahmi9206 @ Jun 1 2014, 11:08 PM)
hi...im new to this thread can i join the club?...im interested in military technologies
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You are welcome to join the club.

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post Jun 1 2014, 11:17 PM

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thanks bro yinchet
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jun 1 2014, 11:14 PM)
Cuma tinggal weapon pod je.
Ada yg kata dah beli dah cuma nak remain low profile.
You are welcome to join the club.
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Low profile tak jadi la kalau orang boleh taw dan leh share kat open forum cmni =)
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 1 2014, 10:57 PM)
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Sensor, rwr, flir and chaff already confirmed.
the only thing left is the weapons pod which nowhere to be seen.

20mm cannon pod and 2.75" rocket pod not that expensive.
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QUOTE(Bombgen @ Jun 1 2014, 11:30 PM)
Low profile tak jadi la kalau orang boleh taw dan leh share kat open forum cmni =)
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Bukan yg saya kata punya. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 1 2014, 11:33 PM

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ESSCOM HOPES FOB TO BE READY BY YEAR END

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KOTA KINABALU, (June 1) — Eastern Sabah Security Command (ESSCom) director-general Datuk Mohammad Mentek hoped construction of the Forward Operation Bases (FOB) in the Eastern Sabah Security Zone (ESSZone) using abandoned Petronas oil rigs could be ready by year end.

He said construction of the FOB in waters off Semporna would take time as the oil rigs were huge and had to be brought from the peninsula to Sabah.

ESSCom, he said, had been requested to identify suitable and strategic sites to place the oil rigs for use as FOB.

Mohammad said he and other ESScom officers, as well as officers from Petronas, would visit the ESSZone waters, especially Semporna, next week to identify the site to place the oil rigs.

When completed, the FOB would not only be used by the security teams to berth their boats for refilling or to get their supplies, but also for helicopter landing, he added.


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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 1 2014, 10:30 PM)
indonesia definitely are ready to invade another country if they have to  sweat.gif
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no SEA nation is ready to invade anyone.none have the logistics to maintain a front for more than a couple of days except singapore
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 1 2014, 10:54 PM)
Aku paling sedih bab EC725 tu....masa beli mati2 aku dh ingt ready utk CSAR....tp PTU kata upgrade tu depend pd kerajaan plak...

Ni jadi mcm kes NGPV.....fitted for but NEVER with.....
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Kalau ikut 10sqn waktu aku kat sana hari tu hujung tahun ni barang2 SAR sampai dan akan dipasang
10sqn ngan 5 sqn pn blum fully operating lagi
the last Cougar baru sampai kat Subang tgh pasang dan belum buat upacara hand over.


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post Jun 2 2014, 01:32 AM

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Indonesia is definitely not in a position to execute an incursion on foreign soil. Yes, they are on shopping spree but the quantity is way inadequate to protect their territories. Their military in general couldnt even form an effective expeditionary force which requires a sizable airlift and sea lift to different part of the region within shortest possible notice. Luckily, like 191 member nations across the world which are under the umbrella of United Nation, emphasis on economy, wide spread social media for sympathy. Otherwise, Singapore would have shot down all their planes and sank their fleet and taking Riau Peninsula from the Indonesian.

Anyway big country is not invincible. History has proven, when JPN annihilated the Chinese air power and raped Chinese cities apart. The Chinese do not have the capability to resist simply because naval power was like almost from little to none and they possessed limited air power. If SG decided to whack Indonesia for some apparent reasons, Indonesia will probably be experiencing what the Chinese experienced in WW2. Personally i think its unlike to happen.



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QUOTE(Nannostomuss @ Jun 2 2014, 01:32 AM)
Indonesia is definitely not in a position to execute an incursion on foreign soil. Yes, they are on shopping spree but the quantity is way inadequate to protect their territories. Their military in general couldnt even form an effective expeditionary force which requires a sizable airlift and sea lift to different part of the region within shortest possible notice. Luckily, like 191 member nations across the world which are under the umbrella of United Nation, emphasis on economy, wide spread social media for sympathy. Otherwise, Singapore would have shot down all their planes and sank their fleet and taking Riau Peninsula from the Indonesian.

Anyway big country is not invincible. History has proven, when JPN annihilated the Chinese air power and raped Chinese cities apart. The Chinese do not have the capability to resist simply because naval power was like almost from little to none and they possessed limited air power. If SG decided to whack Indonesia for some apparent reasons, Indonesia will probably be experiencing what the Chinese experienced in WW2. Personally i think its unlike to happen.
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Actually, Indonesia has an aspiration to become the strongest militarily in the region, even outgunning Australia. Although, may never be as strong as China and India.

According to Citigroup projection, Indonesia will become 4th largest economy in 2050. Other financial organizations have varying projections, but the lowest rank is 6th position in 2050.

Year 2050 (in billion)
China 205,321
India 180,490
United States 83,805
Indonesia 45,901

If it maintains 0.8% GDP for defense budget...equal to $360 billion.

Some people could be somewhat skeptical about this, but if someone prophesied in 1998 that Indonesia will become the 10th largest economy in 16 years according to World Bank, everyone would roll on floor laughing out loud. But, it happens. smile.gif

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post Jun 2 2014, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 1 2014, 10:30 PM)
indonesia definitely are ready to invade another country if they have to  sweat.gif
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There would be no such invasion.

Indonesia is now entering it's final phase of the 1st Minimum Essential Force (MEF) this year. MEF have now reached 40% capability. The 2nd MEF will kick start as the new president is elected,

2nd MEF ---> 2015 - 2019
3rd MEF ---> 2019 - 2024

Indonesia current defence spending is 0.9% (one of the lowest in SEA) of GDP. The defense budget is projected to increase in 2015 to 1.5% (and yet it is still one of the lowest in SEA) of GDP. But with a GDP that have reached the USD 1 Trillion mark that would see a defence budget of USD 15 Billion.

Indonesia 1st MEF priority is to replace obsolete military hardware and there are lots of it. It would be interesting on what Indonesia would be procuring in the 2nd MEF with a defence budget of USD 15 Billion.

And it looks like the 2 presidential candidates are committed in modernizing the Indonesian military.

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 1 2014, 10:54 PM)
Aku paling sedih bab EC725 tu....masa beli mati2 aku dh ingt ready utk CSAR....tp PTU kata upgrade tu depend pd kerajaan plak...

Ni jadi mcm kes NGPV.....fitted for but NEVER with.....
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justification of the high price of the EC725 is that is primed for CSAR..

QUOTE(yinchet @ Jun 1 2014, 11:14 PM)
Cuma tinggal weapon pod je.
Ada yg kata dah beli dah cuma nak remain low profile.
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EC725 nak pasang weapon pod mcm mana tu? rocket launchers ke? ke cukup je pasang mini-gun tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

bila beli tapi taknak announce pasal 'low profile' la mengundang persoalan mengenai isu songlap..
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jun 2 2014, 09:04 AM)
justification of the high price of the EC725 is that is primed for CSAR..
EC725 nak pasang weapon pod mcm mana tu? rocket launchers ke? ke cukup je pasang mini-gun  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

bila beli tapi taknak announce pasal 'low profile' la mengundang persoalan mengenai isu songlap..
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betol betol! now even NGPV also facing the same critisim.

our minister-minister are more concern of their pocket rather than the security of the nation.


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QUOTE(kinabalu @ Jun 2 2014, 09:16 AM)
betol betol! now even NGPV also facing the same critisim.

our minister-minister are more concern of their pocket rather than the security of the nation.
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takkan baru tahu kot bro tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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Yes, MAF will be using the M4.

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 1 2014, 10:35 PM)
wow
which reminds me, our armed forces have decided to choose M4 as the standard rifles rite?
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post Jun 2 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Jun 1 2014, 07:36 PM)
how much shipyard these people have seriously?
I search the net, their current type 041 only consist of 13 vessel.
Built 50 vessels in 10 years, about 5 per year is just too powderfulll.

SK, Japan, Pinoy and Taiwan surely would not be happy when they hear this.
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china have more than 100 shipyard, but shipyard built navy ship around 10 plus。

main shipyard:

- Dalian zhonghua shipyard - Aircraft Carrier, Destroyer 051C, 052D
- Jiangnan Shipyard (shanghai) - Aircraft Carrier, Destroyer 052C/D, Diesel-Electric Submarine
- Wuchang (wuhan) shipyard - Diesel-Electric Submarine, Frigate 056
- Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding - Frigate 054, 056,LPD 071, LCAC
- Guangzhou Huangpu shipyard - Frigate 054, 056, Submarine support ship
- Bohai Shipbuilding - nuclear Submarine SSN, SSBN
- Dalian LiaoNan shipyard - Frigate 056

also 80 unit type 022 FAC built in other small shipyard。

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post Jun 2 2014, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 1 2014, 09:30 PM)
indonesia definitely are ready to invade another country if they have to  sweat.gif
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invade who? msia? no lar, msia and singapore is important for indon economy, and indon govt now taking economy seriously
just hope next indon leader is not someone crazy ultranationalist leader sweat.gif

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