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http://mymil.forums2u.com/t1438-gambar-har...ut-ke-56#172043
Military Thread V12, 31/8 Merdeka; 16/9 Malaysia Day
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May 31 2014, 10:35 PM
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May 31 2014, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 02:13 PM) Pilak have lots of terrorist clan. we broker milf n pinoy gov... mnlf angwee, we broker mnlf, milf angwee... how la... after that there's so many splinter units that keep barking saying they r not invitedAnyway I dun think it would be milf given that we successful broker a peace deal btw milf and pilak government. QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 31 2014, 02:19 PM) whats wrong with AV8..? i like them..expensive at first coz we still trying & learning to build them on our own...once every infra are ready, cost may be cheaper.. no economy of scale bro.. if u can make n export to increase production then ok but if ur product not good enuf for export the design cost, low production n high learning curve will kill umsia cant even make car, or any ship... how to build for military application? even to assembly not design aug also so much problem... QUOTE(yinchet @ May 31 2014, 02:32 PM) Aircraft manufacturing expensive build. yes, forming alliance n JV is the best... do simple things urself n work with others for complicated weaponsat best we can go for manufacturing partnership which we already done that with a400m. boustead did try bid with their own design perhaps the navy perhaps navy still not confident enough with them so decided to go for other instead. |
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May 31 2014, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 31 2014, 11:25 PM) we broker milf n pinoy gov... mnlf angwee, we broker mnlf, milf angwee... how la... after that there's so many splinter units that keep barking saying they r not invited Proton tu ape?? Bukan kereta?? We never make military application?? Kata tau banyak classified infos...takkan tak tau ade company dlm malaysia yg dh develop application & dah digunapakai dlm servis pun. Mane lu punye OSA ni...botswana punye OSA ke?no economy of scale bro.. if u can make n export to increase production then ok but if ur product not good enuf for export the design cost, low production n high learning curve will kill u msia cant even make car, or any ship... how to build for military application? even to assembly not design aug also so much problem... yes, forming alliance n JV is the best... do simple things urself n work with others for complicated weapons |
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Jun 1 2014, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 31 2014, 11:53 PM) Proton tu ape?? Bukan kereta?? We never make military application?? Kata tau banyak classified infos...takkan tak tau ade company dlm malaysia yg dh develop application & dah digunapakai dlm servis pun. Mane lu punye OSA ni...botswana punye OSA ke? waduh... protong apply dn guna ada, tapi value kos itu tak? atau lebih baik beli dari org lain je? |
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Jun 1 2014, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 1 2014, 12:23 AM) waduh... protong Ur statement kata not even build a car.....so tak kira le fail ke tak tp proton dh build more than a car..... apply dn guna ada, tapi value kos itu tak? atau lebih baik beli dari org lain je? Apply dan guna...yup. ade value.... masa ops fajar di aden, ape kita pakai?? Dont tell me u dont know coz u know everything right?? NCW yg ATM pakai ni.... masa ops daulat kita pakai ape?? UAV.... ade kita pakai luar punye?? I know u know many things compare to us as u can access "OSA" thingy.... I myself hold BATC5 as well..... Lots of members here....eventhough they are not in security forces....they know many things, they read a lots for long time, they involve in many military industries...so we share among others....we correct among others. This post has been edited by LTZ: Jun 1 2014, 12:37 AM |
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Jun 1 2014, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 31 2014, 10:00 PM) We'll never know until deftech start the production of these machines I think AV8 in its full-feature version will cost nearly $5 million. Belgium purchased 242 Piranha III for $1 billion in 2005, or around $4 million each. Stryker costs $5 million each; so this is the proper price for next-generation APCsBut in terms of estimation, a baseline pure apc FNSS Pars 8x8 "long-wheelbase version" (without weapons) would cost $800,000, so go figure Malaysian 8x8 evaluation phase ![]() From left to right, APC PIRANHA III - $1,200,000 PARS 8X8 - $1,000,000 ROSOMAK - $2,900,000 |
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Jun 1 2014, 02:09 AM
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true2..btw, does Deftech and Army have plan to upgrade the AV-8 with 105mm Mobile Cannon System like the USA's Stryker? can replace old light tank that we have like Alvis Scorpion and Sibmas..
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Jun 1 2014, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 1 2014, 12:32 AM) Ur statement kata not even build a car.....so tak kira le fail ke tak tp proton dh build more than a car..... kalau assemble tu bkn build.. masalah besar spare part tu.. Apply dan guna...yup. ade value.... masa ops fajar di aden, ape kita pakai?? Dont tell me u dont know coz u know everything right?? NCW yg ATM pakai ni.... masa ops daulat kita pakai ape?? UAV.... ade kita pakai luar punye?? I know u know many things compare to us as u can access "OSA" thingy.... I myself hold BATC5 as well..... Lots of members here....eventhough they are not in security forces....they know many things, they read a lots for long time, they involve in many military industries...so we share among others....we correct among others. adalah, tp itu optimum gak? mcm india tu, mau buat sendiri tp semua yg keluar tu junk untuk negara kecil, lrbih baik focus upgrade dn maintenance dari scratch.. |
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Jun 1 2014, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE PLA will up number of Type 041 subs to 60 in 10yrs Staff Reporter 2014-05-31 10:31 (GMT+8) Experts have predicted that China is likely to increase the number of its type 041 conventional submarines to 60 or 70 over the next decade. The Japanese navy also plans to increase the number of its Soryu-class diesel-electric powered submarines from 16 to 22 in response to a perceived threat from China, reports our Chinese-language sister newspaper Want Daily. Soryu-class diesel-electric powered submarines are the latest model of the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force. The vessel has a displacement of 2,000 tonnes and is equipped with an air-independent propulsion system. Japan will purchase another five of the submarine and will get delivery of one per year, increasing the total number of its Soryu-class submarines to ten. China is preparing to test its latest type-041 diesel-electric submarine in the water recently. The vessel is similar to Germany's new submarine and equipped with an extra sonar system. Its displacement is likely to reach 3,500 tonnes. US Pacific Command commander Samuel Locklear also said in March that China plans to increase the number of its type 041 conventional submarines to 60 or 70. The country has been building a nuclear-powered submarine that can carry JL-2 ballistic missiles. So far, the main carrier of the missiles has been the type-094 nuclear submarine, which China has four of. British military magazine Jane's Defense said the Chinese navy has at least four nuclear-powered submarines that can launch ballistic missiles and 53 slightly outdated diesel-electric submarines. US Lieutenant General Michael Flynn said in February that China's ballistic missile nuclear submarines have carried out missions regularly and been spotted in the Indian Ocean. source |
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Jun 1 2014, 05:51 PM
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Another Day, Another Thai Coup, This Time With Tavors
Thailand has had 18 military coups since they abolished the absolute monarchy in 1932, one every 4.5 years on average. This time around (the last Thai coup was in 2006) there are a lot more Tavor TAR-21 carbines deployed. The Royal Thai Army is slowly replacing some of their aging stockpile of M16 rifles and M4 carbines with Tavors. They have ordered a total of 106,203 carbines with 58,000 currently in service, which probably makes this coup the largest military deployment of Tavor rifles outside of Israeli conflicts. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/05...up-time-tavors/ |
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Jun 1 2014, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 1 2014, 12:01 PM) how much shipyard these people have seriously?I search the net, their current type 041 only consist of 13 vessel. Built 50 vessels in 10 years, about 5 per year is just too powderfulll. SK, Japan, Pinoy and Taiwan surely would not be happy when they hear this. |
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Jun 1 2014, 10:06 PM
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Jun 1 2014, 10:24 PM
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Jun 1 2014, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 1 2014, 10:24 PM) indonesia definitely are ready to invade another country if they have to |
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Jun 1 2014, 10:32 PM
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Thai.....Indo....they are very serious..... singapore we know it already.... philipine is planning, at least they are planning for something & announce it.
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Jun 1 2014, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Jun 1 2014, 05:51 PM) Another Day, Another Thai Coup, This Time With Tavors wowThailand has had 18 military coups since they abolished the absolute monarchy in 1932, one every 4.5 years on average. This time around (the last Thai coup was in 2006) there are a lot more Tavor TAR-21 carbines deployed. The Royal Thai Army is slowly replacing some of their aging stockpile of M16 rifles and M4 carbines with Tavors. They have ordered a total of 106,203 carbines with 58,000 currently in service, which probably makes this coup the largest military deployment of Tavor rifles outside of Israeli conflicts. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/05...up-time-tavors/ which reminds me, our armed forces have decided to choose M4 as the standard rifles rite? |
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Jun 1 2014, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE RMAF 56th Anniversary Q & A Marhalim Abas June 1, 2014 Malaysia - RMAF SHAH ALAM: Just like his counterpart in the other services, RMAF chief Jen Tan Sri Rodzali Daud entertained us – media folks – by answering questions ahead of the anniversary celebrations – the 56th this year. The 56th anniversary parade this year was held at the Gong Kedak airbase – the home of the Sukhoi Su-30MKM. The full Q & A is reproduced full below. To be honest I am not so keen on sending written questions as I have no control over the answers. Over the years I had received one word answer to a very long question so I am not so keen about this. That is why I prefer a live interview where you can get to ask more questions based on the answers given even if the answers sometimes is a Yes or No. Anyhow, Jen Rodzali had explained further about the MRCA programme at the recent RMAF media day which was organised jointly by the service and the Defence Ministry’s Corporate Communication. It must be noted that I received the answers to my questionnaire two days after the media event, which did not allow me to clarify some of the answers. The lease-buy solution for MRCA was necessitated by the fact that the Fuclrum service life is not expected to extended further beyond 2015. The MRCA programme was still born as it was initiated without the funding already secured. Yes I had stated that the Gripen and Typhoon were the favourites for the programme as both had proposed a lease and buy solution, one cannot discount the possibility that either the Super Hornet and Rafale be chosen as the government might go ahead with an out right buy as proposed by RMAF. With the 11th Malaysian Plan starting in the middle of next year – anything could happen even the postponement of the Fulcrum retirement. Postponement is a possibility but without any major upgrades as this will take too much time to be conducted. Anyhow, the highlights of my Q&A, is on the PC7 Mk II, Hercules and Nuri upgrades. Malaysian Defence had reported that the deal was supposed to take place during the recent DSA 2014 but it did not happened. Jen Rodzali said “Letter of Intent was issued to the company, Pilatus Aircrft Ltd, Switzerland for the supply and deliver 5 x aircraft PC- 7 MK II . RMAF will receive the aircraft after 18 months from the date of signing the LOA is expected in the near future.” The Hercules fleet is to continue service until 2030 and the 14 aircraft in service will be fitted a digital cockpit from a Canadian company Esterline CMC Electronics (CMC) with Airod as the prime contractor. Esterline CMC’s system integration experience includes C-130 cockpit upgrades for more than 10 international customers, including air forces in Austria, Brazil, Chile, Dubai, France, the Netherlands and Saudi Arabia. Although Jen Rodzali did not identify the digital cockpit system to be installed but CMC currently markets the Cockpit 9000, which the company described as an integrated, fully digital cockpit, tailored to the requirements of military transport aircraft. From CMC release “At its core, the company’s CMA-9000 Flight Management System (FMS) combines with Esterline CMC’s high-integrity GPS Landing System, to provide a comprehensive solution for all flight phases, from departure to precision approach, and in full compliance with published international CNS/ATM navigational mandates and growth provisions. Meanwhile, as most servicable Nuri is move to Kuching for operational duties in Sarawak and Lahad Datu, at least one example is being used as the test bed for an upgrade programme which had been proposed to RMAF for the last two decades, in one form or another. The upgrade which may see the Nuri continuing in service until 2030 include mostly replacement of obsolescence parts and equipment and a new digital cockpit. I am told test flights of the Nuri fitted with digital cockpit is being conducted at the moment. Q&A for RMAF 56th anniversary Q1 . What is the current status of the MRCA programme . We were made to understand the aircraft manufacturers Boeing , Saab , BAE Systems, Dassault and Sukhoi have sent in their proposal which including a lease-buy solutions to the RMAF and Mindef recently . Answer: Still in the evaluation stage. Not all companies mentioned proposed a lease-buy solution purchase . Q2 . Why did the manufacturers proposed a lease-buy solution to the RMAF? Did the RFP stated a lease-buy solution? Answer: The lease-buy solution were proposed by the manufacturers to the RMAF and not due to the RFP. Q3. What is the RMAF recommendation for the MRCA programme. An out-right procurement in the 11th Malaysian Plan (RMK11). Answer: For RMK11, the air force proposed an outright procurement of the MRCA. Q4. Even if approved by the government under RMK11, the first MRCA will only be operational well beyond 2015. Will this mean the Mig-29N fleet will continue to be operational until the MRCA are in service? Answer: No, the MiG-29N fleet will be retired in Dec 2015. As a temporary solution, RMAF is proposing to lease fighter jets. Q5. At the recent DSA 2014, Airod was given the LOI as the prime contractor for the C130 upgrade. Can Tan Sri elaborate further on the project ie what kind of avionic systems have been chosen for this project Is Rockwell Collins is involved in the project? Answer. Airod Sdn Bhd is the prime contractor of the programme with Esterline CMC (CMC ) of Canada as a systems provider and integrator. All 14 planes will be upgraded in phases to meet the standards of CNS – ATM for global mission readiness Force. Q6. We were informed that the project will also include a SLEP. Does this mean that these aircraft will continue to operate until 2030 ? Answer. There is no SLEP programme for the C-130 aircraft . However, with increasing levels of aircraft avionics standards CNS – ATM ‘s, the C -130 fleet will be capable of serving efficiently to meet global mission until 2030. Q7. Airod has also been awarded the contract to provide proof of concept for the digital cockpit for Nuri. What is the status of the project and whether RMAF will allow the media to provide coverage for this project ? Answer. The Proof of Concept ( POC ) NUP4 still in status Functional Check Flight ( FCF ) where aircraft is tested for suitability and performance after upgrading. Media coverage thereof may be allowed during the process of upgrading the next plane . Q8.. RMAF should have signed a contract for five aircraft Pilatus PC- 7 MKII at DSA 2014 recently> Was the contract signed and when will the aircraft will be delivered?. Answer. The LOI was issued to the company Pilatus Aircraft Ltd, Switzerland for the supply and deliver 5 PC- 7 MK II aircraft. The aircraft will be delivered after 18 months from the date of signing of the LOA, which is expected in the near future. Q9. When will the EC-725 Cougar helicopter fleet will receive their self protection system , refueling probe and weapons ? Answer. The primary role of the RMAF EC725 aircraft now is for SAR and utility. For the record, this aircraft has the capability to be upgraded for Combat SAR. The focus now is to reach full Operational Capability by the end of June. Increased in capacity depends on the government. Q10. Butterworth Air Base status. Are negotiations for base redevelopment is now underway? Will the the developer will provide a new base complete with a runway and other equipment ? Answer. The Defence Ministry (MINDEF ) is still reviewing the proposed redevelopment pf of the airbase by the JV between the Armed Forces Fund Board and TSR Bhd. When a suitable replacement land is identified , the Ministry will examine the need to develop a new airbase based on one to one replacement concept. The requirements include the provision of facilities to improve strategic and operational capabilities of the New Base later. source |
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Jun 1 2014, 10:54 PM
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Aku paling sedih bab EC725 tu....masa beli mati2 aku dh ingt ready utk CSAR....tp PTU kata upgrade tu depend pd kerajaan plak...
Ni jadi mcm kes NGPV.....fitted for but NEVER with..... |
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