Your wedding band and ring should be 5 times of your monthly salary.

Where or how did you get that figure ?
Like that have to look at 3 carat ring d 
Well TS, my rule of thumb which I share and agree with my GF is, why buy something that might not have an appreciation value ? If its a 10k ring, imagine you using only 1k for the ring and 9k to further grow your wealth    But hey, if the rock can appreciate over time, why not ? 

haha.. i think the most important thing is that this wedding is a good and happy moment for both of us. Should i go for it? or got other choices?

IF you can afford it, without much of a worry in your financial area, then Ill say go for it.  Dont be those idiots out there who because their GF wants, do not want to be looked at a cheapo or whatever the reason buys a damn expensive ring and went into financial crisis.
But remember, humans are greedy, once u get her a 10k ring, the next time you want to get her something, you better not disappoint her 

Seriously, I had only spend 1k for wedding ring + band. Seriously I don't know how important is a ring or your future finance. Of course if you have the money then go for it.

Where or how did you get that figure ?
Like that have to look at 3 carat ring d 
Well TS, my rule of thumb which I share and agree with my GF is, why buy something that might not have an appreciation value ? If its a 10k ring, imagine you using only 1k for the ring and 9k to further grow your wealth    But hey, if the rock can appreciate over time, why not ? 

IF you can afford it, without much of a worry in your financial area, then Ill say go for it.  Dont be those idiots out there who because their GF wants, do not want to be looked at a cheapo or whatever the reason buys a damn expensive ring and went into financial crisis.
But remember, humans are greedy, once u get her a 10k ring, the next time you want to get her something, you better not disappoint her 

for me, i prefer cartier

Hi ladies and gentlemen,

I want to propose to my gf later this year if i can find a suitable ring as soon as possible. All those preparation of the proposal also need some time.

My budget for the proposal ring is around RM 10k. Maybe RM 2 - 3k for wedding bands. My gf is dying for Tiffany & Co and I take some time to think about it since a lot of choices out there that can offer me better ring despite the brand itself. Because i think wedding only once in a lifetime, i think should buy the best for her but if i can get better ring somewhere else then maybe i should reconsider.

I asked my friend last week in KL to help me to see some rings in Tiffany & Co and he told me that it is possible to buy a proposal ring for RM 10k with only 0.25 or 0.3 carat of diamond with Tiffany Setting. I not sure about the colour, cut, etc yet because i not there to see it. Maybe that kind of money can buy you 0.25 carat but low colour and cut which i not really sure yet. I will be going to KL this weekend and I will drop by to see the ring myself.

So what is your advice on this matter? Should i go for Tiffany & Co or other brand for the proposal ring and how about the wedding bands?

Thanks!

Hi ladies and gentlemen,

I want to propose to my gf later this year if i can find a suitable ring as soon as possible. All those preparation of the proposal also need some time.

My budget for the proposal ring is around RM 10k. Maybe RM 2 - 3k for wedding bands. My gf is dying for Tiffany & Co and I take some time to think about it since a lot of choices out there that can offer me better ring despite the brand itself. Because i think wedding only once in a lifetime, i think should buy the best for her but if i can get better ring somewhere else then maybe i should reconsider.

I asked my friend last week in KL to help me to see some rings in Tiffany & Co and he told me that it is possible to buy a proposal ring for RM 10k with only 0.25 or 0.3 carat of diamond with Tiffany Setting. I not sure about the colour, cut, etc yet because i not there to see it. Maybe that kind of money can buy you 0.25 carat but low colour and cut which i not really sure yet. I will be going to KL this weekend and I will drop by to see the ring myself.

For the wedding bands, if i able to get Tiffany & Co for the proposal ring, i think to buy the wedding bands in other shops.

So what is your advice on this matter? Should i go for Tiffany & Co or other brand for the proposal ring and how about the wedding bands?

Thanks!

You definitely can buy a better ring than Tiffany & Co. But what you mean by 'better' would be the issue. T&C doesn't pride itself in having the best numbers, rather a solid and established brand name. Some would consider a 0.5c from T&C is 'better' than a 1c from non-brand.
He might be right, but 10k probably get you a lower end stone. I think the 0.4c, H, SI that they quoted me was around 13k.
You will find very different advice here. Some will call you stupid for buying in into the whole diamond hype, some will tell you that you can get something better at that price and others will tell you to get what your wife wants.

My advice, have a budget, stick to it and get something your future wife would love. If it is not a surprise, get her to go and look at it as well. If you are open to customisation, you can actually get a very decent rock + setting for that price you mentioned, stones that are on par with Lazare's.

I don't believe in diamonds,  but my fiancee does. I got her something exactly what she loved. The joy in her face everytime she looks at it for me is worth what I paid. Obviously I could have bought a 1k diamond and spend the rest on something else, but what is the point if it means sacrificing her happiness? I can always earn money, it is nothing to me.

Just put it this way. A diamond ring will last you a marriage, which last perhaps around 30 years. If you spent 10k on a diamond ring that means you are spending less than RM1 a day. And for me, that is too cheap to pay for that happiness I see in her face

Bro, just get whatever your fiancee like. Never get her engagement ring that "you think" is best for her, the ladies' brain works slightly different as we know it.

Just go easy on the wedding band, coz you'll wear it everyday, frankly, very easy to lose it.

Hi ladies and gentlemen,

I want to propose to my gf later this year if i can find a suitable ring as soon as possible. All those preparation of the proposal also need some time.

My budget for the proposal ring is around RM 10k. Maybe RM 2 - 3k for wedding bands. My gf is dying for Tiffany & Co and I take some time to think about it since a lot of choices out there that can offer me better ring despite the brand itself. Because i think wedding only once in a lifetime, i think should buy the best for her but if i can get better ring somewhere else then maybe i should reconsider.

I asked my friend last week in KL to help me to see some rings in Tiffany & Co and he told me that it is possible to buy a proposal ring for RM 10k with only 0.25 or 0.3 carat of diamond with Tiffany Setting. I not sure about the colour, cut, etc yet because i not there to see it. Maybe that kind of money can buy you 0.25 carat but low colour and cut which i not really sure yet. I will be going to KL this weekend and I will drop by to see the ring myself.

For the wedding bands, if i able to get Tiffany & Co for the proposal ring, i think to buy the wedding bands in other shops.

So what is your advice on this matter? Should i go for Tiffany & Co or other brand for the proposal ring and how about the wedding bands?

Thanks!

Getting from a diamond wholesaler will save you a lot!

The rocks from wholesaler are GIA certified which you can be assure of. If you get from a retail, it will cost you a bomb just for the name and the box. Really not worth the money spending when you can get a way better one and a bigger one

It's ok guys. i bought my ring already. From Tiffany & Co because my gf loves it and i think it is totally worth it since it is the ring she like. Not a ring that will break my wallet and i think it suit fine.

diamond wholesaler ? reliable or not ... got GIA cert ?

mind to share with us who is it 

who is the wholesaler ? 

Hi ladies and gentlemen,

I want to propose to my gf later this year if i can find a suitable ring as soon as possible. All those preparation of the proposal also need some time.

My budget for the proposal ring is around RM 10k. Maybe RM 2 - 3k for wedding bands. My gf is dying for Tiffany & Co and I take some time to think about it since a lot of choices out there that can offer me better ring despite the brand itself. Because i think wedding only once in a lifetime, i think should buy the best for her but if i can get better ring somewhere else then maybe i should reconsider.

I asked my friend last week in KL to help me to see some rings in Tiffany & Co and he told me that it is possible to buy a proposal ring for RM 10k with only 0.25 or 0.3 carat of diamond with Tiffany Setting. I not sure about the colour, cut, etc yet because i not there to see it. Maybe that kind of money can buy you 0.25 carat but low colour and cut which i not really sure yet. I will be going to KL this weekend and I will drop by to see the ring myself.

For the wedding bands, if i able to get Tiffany & Co for the proposal ring, i think to buy the wedding bands in other shops.

So what is your advice on this matter? Should i go for Tiffany & Co or other brand for the proposal ring and how about the wedding bands?

Thanks!

need some input here, i am looking at budget of 5-8k

de gem [in house i forget the name] - 0.36c G VS1 RM6880
0.44c I VS1 RM8200

D&P Estrella- 0.35c E VS2 RM6590 （platinum ring）

D&P Forevermark similar as above RM5290

Lumiere 0.35c F VS2 RM5388
0.4c G VS2 RM6899

Seems really hard to just get GIA certified, most of the shop focus on these ideal cut and the only other option is no cert.

Any other shops worth checking out? Will Singapore have better pricing?

Hey, Singapore most likely have similar pricing (unless you earn SGD) after conversion.

DeGem in house? You mean Lazare?

I'm not sure what you mean by hard to get GIA certified, I think most if not all do try to sell GIA certified except for DeGem's lazare and I think D&P which pushes their own certification.

If you just want a stone, you can try buying it online then getting your own setting. That was what my friend did, you might have have the brand name but with just a little time, you can get a stone that shines and looks as good as the Lazare I got for half the price.

I'll go search for the tools if you are interested.

Those buying from sg, I suggest visit Jann Paul for more diamond knowledge. And try canary. I find them to have better diamonds than lovis

I got mine from canary. Mine is .9 E vs1. Price is not cheap. But perfect for my fiancée. I'm just suggesting you try both Jann Paul and canary too. In fact I find them to have better diamonds than Larry's also. Good luck my friend. Make sure you use HCA. The grades there really shows the diff. My fiancée .9 shines much much more than her boss's 1.1

Shine has nothing to do with carats. Shine is to do with how it is cut, so it is not surprising that a .9 can be shinier than a 1.1c 

Just ask them for the measurements and pump it into their online tools that can guestimate quite decently the shine and brilliance the stone can cut.

Do bear in mind, Malaysia have the cheapest diamonds around SEA if I'm not wrong, but Singapore might have more selections due to the market.

hmm where would you suggest me to scout diamond with just GIA cert in Malaysia?

My friend got his from Audrey's (http://audreys.com.my/index.php/), maybe other forumers can guide you to any other sites.

They are quite transparent, providing all the details as well as the GIA certification number (so you can look it up online) on their website.

What we did was got a shortlist of the stones within his budget and 4C's, then check out each stone in the GIA website (they will give you the online certification) and run it through the tools available online (http://www.pricescope.com/tools) and narrow it down to the final few which was the best among the shortlist.

He got the settings done outside by another jeweller according to his customise design. I'd say the shine of the diamond was a good as the Lazare I got for my fiancee, and I think overall he got his down for about 30% less. The only drawback is less bragging rights, but really, unless it's a Tiffany, Cartier, Lazare or something, would your wife to be really care about that?

+1 to what fuzzy said. I am said friend.

Overall, I did spend a lot more time as compared to fuzzy when picking out the ring - but I really thought it was a fun process, and I now know a lot more about diamonds. Of course, getting the stone and setting separately also gives you the freedom to pick out the type of setting you like. Some will say that looking for the stone, and thinking of the design is a lot of work, but some will prefer it as it is more personalized.

At the end of the day, when she puts the ring on, you can't tell if its a Tiffany, Tomei or personalized.

thanks for the valuable feedback, will surely check out audrey before buying.

edit: audrey only sells big stone?

Mind sharing where you got your setting done? I'm at a lost for which one to choose

All this horror stories about setting in subpar gold and what not has me a tad bit paranoid.

i have price list of Audreys, frankly it is not cheap. a 0.4c without triple excellent also cost 4.5k and above but their price is inclusive of settings.

Have my eye on a 0.4c / G / IF / Triple ex, HCA score of 1.6 in Singapore at SGD 1680 without setting.

Sorry if I am asking a stupid question. But where to get the dimension detail to input into the HCA calculator? Does the retailer actually have all those information?

Sorry if I am asking a stupid question. But where to get the dimension detail to input into the HCA calculator? Does the retailer actually have all those information?

Any opinion on Wah Chan diamond? They claimed theirs comparable to more branded one and cheaper. Also comes with GIA cert for 0.3 above.

Bro, just get whatever your fiancee like. Never get her engagement ring that "you think" is best for her, the ladies' brain works slightly different as we know it.

Just go easy on the wedding band, coz you'll wear it everyday, frankly, very easy to lose it.

Hi ladies and gentlemen,

I want to propose to my gf later this year if i can find a suitable ring as soon as possible. All those preparation of the proposal also need some time.

My budget for the proposal ring is around RM 10k. Maybe RM 2 - 3k for wedding bands. My gf is dying for Tiffany & Co and I take some time to think about it since a lot of choices out there that can offer me better ring despite the brand itself. Because i think wedding only once in a lifetime, i think should buy the best for her but if i can get better ring somewhere else then maybe i should reconsider.

I asked my friend last week in KL to help me to see some rings in Tiffany & Co and he told me that it is possible to buy a proposal ring for RM 10k with only 0.25 or 0.3 carat of diamond with Tiffany Setting. I not sure about the colour, cut, etc yet because i not there to see it. Maybe that kind of money can buy you 0.25 carat but low colour and cut which i not really sure yet. I will be going to KL this weekend and I will drop by to see the ring myself.

For the wedding bands, if i able to get Tiffany & Co for the proposal ring, i think to buy the wedding bands in other shops.

So what is your advice on this matter? Should i go for Tiffany & Co or other brand for the proposal ring and how about the wedding bands?

Thanks!

Hi all the sifu there, i also started planning to buy my proposal ring. Just went to one of the shop ask today. They quote me RM 5k with the casing for the below spec :

- 0.4 carat
- Triple Excellent
- E color
- VS2

Is it a good deal ? Of i can get a better spec within my 5k budget ?

for 5k you can get bigger one.. where did ya scouted that piece ? 

I did research at other shops, but for 5k, only can get like 0.3 carat. Any other shops u can recommend ?

By the way, this offer is from WC.

I did research at other shops, but for 5k, only can get like 0.3 carat. Any other shops u can recommend ?

By the way, this offer is from WC.

Hi all the sifu there, i also started planning to buy my proposal ring. Just went to one of the shop ask today. They quote me RM 5k with the casing for the below spec :

- 0.4 carat
- Triple Excellent
- E color
- VS2

Is it a good deal ? Of i can get a better spec within my 5k budget ?

u got this from which wc ? u can try MV branch near aeon there. the prices are pretty cheap there.. else, u can try on their hq branch..

How about love &co? Did u went in to ask... They got provided cert for ur diamond.... My frenz last week brought propose ring 0.18carat only rm3.1k and provided cert... Surveyed many shop don't provide cert for that amount...

I got my ring last week, below is the spec.

- Round Brilliance.
- 0.6 carat
- Triple Excellent
- E color
- VS2

And it cost SG4.6k. You can try to compare whether worth it or not. Of course the design of the ring is custom made. Not branded. Inclusive. Free sizing, polish and carving. For me, I think RM5k for those spec are good.

The 5k i got from WC also got cert. Is from GIA. I did went to Love & co today. They quoted me 8k for the below spec :
-0.4 carat
- ideal cut
- vs2
- f color
And come with igi cert, 1 pair of love bear and a glass casing.
How does it sounds ?

Not bad deal also... As it quite shine also... Did try TSL jewellry? Not bad also the price and design and cutting...

Thanks

Not bad deal also... As it quite shine also... Did try TSL jewellry? Not bad also the price and design and cutting...

Thanks

if your gal dun mind on those brands, try to skips those famous jewelry boutique. It can save you some money there. try to look at those WC shops that I wrote earlier. they have a lot of stocks..

Advice from someone who s married ...bring your gf to choose her wedding ring n of course buy within the budget.

One biggest regret I did is to buy the cheapest wedding ring which is only rm1k.. Bcos tht time we just started working n not willing to spend much money on our wedding .
The cheap ring is so uncomfortable that I don't even wear it anymore .

N even if in future when we are more well to do n can buy a more expensive ring,.,it will never be your wedding ring ... Just feels different

Guys, I strongly urge you to use pricescope to determine you Diamond's return light and shine.

I used it when I was sourcing my diamond and it was perfect.

Personally I feel there is not point in just size if the shine is bad.
Mind you, whether is triple excellent or ideal cut or whatever bullshit they may say. The actual angle and diameter of the diamond does play a more in depth significance.

Bro can u quickly post the link on how to grade it? I can't find in pricescope website.. too confusing I am at chow tai fook now and goING to buy now.. many thanks

who is the wholesaler ?  :x

From personal experience, I would actually suggest you to visit a diamond wholesaler.

They are way more genuine and is the best money can buy rather than buying name/ box like Tiffany and Cartier all.

As long as the diamond is cut at its best cut with 8 hearts and arrows. The diamond is rated at the best cut. So doesn't means triple excellent would shine the best. IT is the cut and also the fluorescent of the stone. The best is without fluorescent at all. Cause stones with it would be the cheapest cause it would be the tint in the rock that cannot be washed off.

ALSO DO CHECK THE DATES OF YOUR CERT!!!!! For rocks smaller than 1ct la, usually a lot is traded in stones!! Especially those older than a year.

In wholesaler, they usually don't sell solitaires dated 3-4 months later than current date unless it is an unusual size.

I've a bad experience from Degem for my proposal before meeting wholesaler.

I bought a Lazare diamond at RM36k for H colour and IF Clarity. However, I just ended up paying for just the brand and it wasnt even 1 ct. It was only 0.8ct. When  you buy that time, the sales retail will say anything and agree with anything but when you decide to trade in only I realised they will only pay max 50% cash back or to trade to another ring or another jewellery it has to be double the price meaning 75k and above! Practically eating your bank account!! LEARNED MY FIRST AND LAST LESSON IN A RETAIL STORE no matter how they name their brand it is just a RETAIL CERT AND PACKAGING not a LAB CERT.

I ended up knowing about the whole concept of wholesale and I found how much more genuine it is. So much worth the value and quality is the best as they got first hand of the diamond and they have their own factory so you can practically customised any design you want whether in gold or platinum.

Just sharing with those moving forward and wholesaler guarantee the best shine of the diamond WITHOUT spotlight.

My wife had so much compliment of her jewelleries from the wholesaler and price (Man save you minimum 30% of the retail price at least but the best and cleanest diamond)

But wholesaler works by appointment. Your can try contacting Bludiamond +60123272110 if your want diamonds or gems that are worth the value. They have tons of GIA Certified Solitaires and ready made jewelleries. But it takes about 2-3 weeks to do the setting for solitaires and also wedding bands. Only thing about wholesaler, don't expect like high end packaging and all la.... Practical the jewelry piece is the most important!!!

They have so much choices rather thn jst few pieces in retail which are way too expensive, overrated and limited choices.

Have fun!!

Your wedding band and ring should be 5 times of your monthly salary.

Where or how did you get that figure ?
Like that have to look at 3 carat ring d 
Well TS, my rule of thumb which I share and agree with my GF is, why buy something that might not have an appreciation value ? If its a 10k ring, imagine you using only 1k for the ring and 9k to further grow your wealth    But hey, if the rock can appreciate over time, why not ? 

haha.. i think the most important thing is that this wedding is a good and happy moment for both of us. Should i go for it? or got other choices?

Got any shops in KL have the ASET scope to see the diamond before I buy? So far all the shops I went to don't have it and the HCA score also not very good.

Thinking of travelling to Singapore to buy. Anyone got experience?

The Ideal scope you saw, did it look like this?



I went to Le Lumiere and Love & Co before. I asked for the Ideal scope and they give me the Hearts & Arrows scope like this.



I don't think they know what the Ideal scope is leh..

I saw some online diamond website have all the scopes.. but I prefer to see the diamond before buying it if possible..

Q: For the ring, white gold or platinum better?

Ya! That's what I thought at first. But then I read the Hearts and arrows scope is to only see the pattern of the cut or to see the symmetry. It won't show light leakages.
To see the light leakages only the Ideal or ASET scope will show.

This is what the proper Ideal scope is suppose to look like


I went to alot of shops and they also think its the same but its not. I'm thinking if I should just buying the scope myself and go arnd see see

Ya! That's what I thought at first. But then I read the Hearts and arrows scope is to only see the pattern of the cut or to see the symmetry. It won't show light leakages.
To see the light leakages only the Ideal or ASET scope will show.

This is what the proper Ideal scope is suppose to look like


I went to alot of shops and they also think its the same but its not. I'm thinking if I should just buying the scope myself and go arnd see see

I read alot of good reviews about them.. Ideally I prefer to get in KL.. less le che. But if I can't find any shops with the scopes, Singapore will be my next option.

Did you go to Singapore to buy and collect yours? Or they got do delivery?

Hi all the sifu there, i also started planning to buy my proposal ring. Just went to one of the shop ask today. They quote me RM 5k with the casing for the below spec :

- 0.4 carat
- Triple Excellent
- E color
- VS2

Is it a good deal ? Of i can get a better spec within my 5k budget ?