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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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smartncy
post Feb 9 2017, 01:42 PM

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Hi,

Need you guys opinion about

Stone 1:
GIA No.: 6222860082
Spec: 0.58c D colour VS2 3EX
Quoted price from Wxx CXXX after some discount: RM10,400 (loose diamond)
It looks fine to me as a newbie under microscope and naked eyes. However I realised a big discrepancies between the score of cut between HCA tool (3.9) and Enchanted (96.6)

Stone 2:
GIA No.: 2175840567
Spec: 0.6c D colour VS2 3EX
Quoted price from Wxx CXXX after some discount: RM12k (loose diamond)
It looks fine to me as a newbie under microscope and naked eyes. However I realised a big discrepancies between the score of cut between HCA tool (2.4) and Enchanted (88.1)

Stone 3:
Another stone with casing (ready set):
GIA No.: 2196145177
Spec: 0.6c F colour VS2 3EX
Quoted price from Wxx CXXX after some discount: RM14,500
HCA cut score: 2.4
Enchated: 88.1

Stone 4:
Another stone with casing (ready set):
GIA No.: 5186587820
Spec: 0.5c D colour VS2 3EX (This 1 looks good but size is slightly smaller than my expectation sad.gif
Quoted price from Wxx CXXX after some discount: RM11,300
HCA cut score: 0.8
Enchated: 100

No sure if either HCA tool or Enchanted cut score is more reliable?
Is this a good stone or good buy? I have been spending almost 2 months time visiting several shops for several times. Hope can finalise the decision soon.

Hoping to get something around 0.6c D colour VS2 3EX with budget <RM12k which seems like not easy. Also checked in Audreys online and retail shop but also not easy as many of their stones are located in HK and some stones listed in their site have been sold.....

Please gimme your opinion and advice. Many thanks

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smartncy
post Feb 9 2017, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Feb 9 2017, 06:49 PM)
Stone 1:
GIA No.: 6222860082
Spec: 0.58c D colour VS2 3EX
Quoted price from Wxx CXXX after some discount: RM10,400 (loose diamond)
It looks fine to me as a newbie under microscope and naked eyes. However I realised a big discrepancies between the score of cut between HCA tool (3.9) and Enchanted (96.6)

Steep crown (35.5°), steep pavilion (41.0°) is a wrong combination. That's why this diamond has a low score. If the pavilion is around, let's say 40.6 degrees, then the score should be higher for HCA. Usually steep crown will pair with shallower pavilion angles and vice versa. For example 35.5 degrees crown angle (steep side) should pair with 40.6 pavilion angle (shallow side). For example, 34 degrees crown angle (shallow side) should pair with 40.9 pavilion angle (steep side). So I won't take this diamond.

Stone 2:
GIA No.: 2175840567
Spec: 0.6c D colour VS2 3EX
Quoted price from Wxx CXXX after some discount: RM12k (loose diamond)
It looks fine to me as a newbie under microscope and naked eyes. However I realised a big discrepancies between the score of cut between HCA tool (2.4) and Enchanted (88.1)

36.5 degrees crown angle is an over steep crown angle, your diamond may suffer in terms of brilliance. Here is a quote from www.niceice.com (this linkhttp://niceice.com/diamond-grading-101/obstruction-light-diamonds/) on why people cut diamond to 36.5 degrees:


Stone 3:
Another stone with casing (ready set):
GIA No.: 2196145177
Spec: 0.6c F colour VS2 3EX
Quoted price from Wxx CXXX after some discount: RM14,500
HCA cut score: 2.4
Enchated: 88.1

Same explanation as Stone 2.

Stone 4:
Another stone with casing (ready set):
GIA No.: 5186587820
Spec: 0.5c D colour VS2 3EX (This 1 looks good but size is slightly smaller than my expectation sad.gif
Quoted price from Wxx CXXX after some discount: RM11,300
HCA cut score: 0.8
Enchated: 100

Based on specs alone, this stone seem great. You may want to view further on this stone. Check with WC whether their setting contains palladium.

Side note: At this price point, I may be able to get a super ideal diamond with lower colour (probably F colour) from WhiteFlash, and get it set by another local jeweller, which aroused my interest lately. Their setting is quite standard and does not contain palladium, but their price is quite cheap - RM 750 (standard design) - RM 1000 (custom). The jeweller name is "Memory Jewellery", you may check them out.
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Many many thanks kambingkoh. You are really pro
smartncy
post Feb 10 2017, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Feb 9 2017, 11:28 PM)
Saw that you are interested in getting at least a 0.6ct. If you are comfortable to purchase online, here are some additional options, no obligations, just sharing:

0.607 F VS2
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link)
Loose diamond cost: USD 2586 (free shipment + insurance)
Using exchange rate of 4.5, should be around RM 12340 for the loose stone, together with shipment to Malaysia (including GST)
Setting by iDo Jewellery (contains palladium) should cost around RM 2000 for simple solitaire (my guess)
OR
Setting by Memory Jewellery (does not contain palladium) should cost between RM 750 - RM 1000 (you need to check it out personally by letting them know the size of the diamond)
Total will be approximately: RM 14340 / RM 13340

0.604 E VS2
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link)
Loose diamond cost: USD 2891 (excluding shipment & insurance)
Using exchange rate of 4.5, should be around RM 14100 for the loose stone, together with shipment to Malaysia (including GST)
Setting by iDo Jewellery (contains palladium) should cost around RM 2000 for simple solitaire (my guess)
OR
Setting by Memory Jewellery (does not contain palladium) should cost between RM 750 - RM 1000 (you need to check it out personally by letting them know the size of the diamond)
Total will be approximately: RM 16100 / RM 15100

Although Brian Gavin is more expensive, but BLACK is the highest signature range in their inventory, a step higher than their original signature range. It is the pinnacle of Brian the Cutter's work.

Other links:
iDo Jewellery: http://www.idojewellery.com/
Memory Jewellery: http://www.memoryjewellery.com.my/
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Thanks kambingkoh. I will do more home work per your hinted direction.
smartncy
post Feb 19 2017, 09:35 AM

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Latest found:
Diamond 1 (I attached with the actual photo)
GIA No. 1249761696
0.7ca F SI1 3xEx
Inclusion: Twinning Wisp
Price: rm13.4k but the casing price if this seller is more expensive
Enchanted score: 100
HCA tool cut score: 1.3

Diamond 2:
GIA No. 6212454804
0.7ca D SI1 3xEx
Inclusion: Crystal, Feather
Price: rm14.4k but the casing price of this seller is cheaper
Enchanted score: 96.9
HCA tool cut score: 1.4

Which would be a better buy? Or I should use such budget for something like 0.6ca DEF colour VS or VSS which is probably cost 1k less with similar cut score?

Wish to finalise my purchase soon. Many thanks again

This post has been edited by smartncy: Feb 20 2017, 12:23 AM


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