staying in SG?

Yes bro. PR liao. Why ask?

Curious to know. Not all Msians will stay in SG even if they work there. One of the reasons is probably due to the affordability of the houses there. So, good for you!

I will go crazy if I ulang alik from Singapore to JB everyday man cuz of the traffic.

Any ideas of Le Lumiere?

Saw them at MV last weekend. Looks like it is returning a lot of light, like a typical Hearts & Arrows diamond. But I find it lack some fire, even though with the steep crown angle at 35.5 degrees. Maybe I did not play with it a lot. The proportions look good enough and the diamond is graded by GIA, which is good.

One of the downsides is that the diamond is usually mounted and you cannot verify the Hearts yourself. They do not have the related photos of the H&A as well. This means that when they say it is Hearts & Arrows, we will have to take their word for it. Without anything to justify, personally I will treat it as an ideal cut diamond at most. The simple solitaire ring setting (with no side diamonds) is nicely designed, but a bit lightweight. Finally, the main disadvantage is the price. 0.52 E VVS2 (I think) is priced around RM 17,000 - RM 18, 000 (before negotiation). But if the price is firmed, I rather get this one:

http://black.briangavindiamonds.com/diamon...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link) - 0.557 D VVS1. USD 3389. It is graded by AGS, which is comparable to GIA (if you google around). This diamond is also slightly bigger, has better colour, and clarity.

If you don't mind the clarity to drop to VS1, you can consider this:

http://black.briangavindiamonds.com/diamon...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link) - 0.527 E VS1. There is a huge difference in price compared to the first one but this is due to rarity of colour, and the first one has bigger carat weight. This diamond costs USD 2634. Forex exchange rate is approximately 4.27. So include GST, the loose diamond price before shipment is approximately RM 11922.01. Include shipment, let's say around USD 70. Add on another RM 316.83 (incl. GST). So the approximate final price to reach your hand is approximately RM 12238.84. Go custom made a ring setting will cost you between RM 750 - RM 3500 (at RM 3500 you are making a platinum ring already. A similar ring setting like Le Lumiere may only cost you around RM 1,500 - RM 1,800). The final price at most is RM 15838.84.

The 2 diamonds above are from Black by Brian Gavin Diamonds (affiliate link). It is guaranteed to have full light return without any "weaker light returns on the table, based on the ASET image". Hence, it is actually more expensive than other diamond vendors. If you want value for money alternatives, you can look at their standard Signature Hearts & Arrows, which some of them can be as good.

If you want another brand, I will recommend WhiteFlash: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link) - 0.55 F VVS1 @ USD 2487 (include shipment). It includes free shipping and the diamond is slightly cheaper. Although the H&A may not be as good as Brian Gavin's but I find them pretty good enough for me.

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Sep 27 2017, 09:32 AM

Thanks a lot.

No problem. Good luck!

Hi all experts and friends,

I found two diamond set with below diamond criteria...
Price is same for both but the spec quite some different.
Need all bro, sis advice .....

Ring A (actual size no need to resize)
HCA score 1.3


Ring B (need to resize as over 2 size)
HCA score 1.5


Whether resize down 2 sizes will cause the ring run shape? material is platinum.
Waiting this 2 diamond transfer to the outlet, then view the scope details by eyes again.
However base on above cert, which would you guys pick?


thanks all for the advice in advance.

This post has been edited by DjS: Sep 29 2017, 04:03 PM

Looks like Estrella? D VS1 bro. It should be marginally better than the E VS2 on terms of brilliance. The depth for E VS2 is slightly deeper but ntg too major there. Also, check the fire too, the crown angle for D VS1 is steeper at 35 degrees and may actual return more fire. However, E VS2 has a smaller table and this may help to increase its fire as well. So I supposed it is more or less the same for both. Anyway, when you have the chance to see both rings, look carefully and see which one you prefer more. Another reason is that IGI may be a bit lenient in terms of grading colour. So for a D colour, even if really down 1 to 2 grades whem graded by GIA, it is still within colourless range. Some more, no need to resize! Resizing sometimes can be not so nice to be honest. At least that is my experience. Hope this helps.

p.s. Mind sharing me the final price? You can PM me if you don't wish to disclose publicly. I am pretty curious about it. Thanks.

Just wondering, as some of us bought the ring from independent or online source, and diamond solitaire ring needs to be sent for annual inspection and maintenance right? So where do u all normally send to?

Thanks bro for your advice. You see the cert also know the source of brand o...
I also prefer Ring A, i also worry abt resizing. But the ring size only left this and no more better option
Final price sure good to open to all as reference helping others who may need to refer
Both ring around RM7.2k include the platinum casing.

now suddenly the SA inform me found another which i may interest.
spec as below.

RIng C : HCA score 1.5


Price to top up 400 but can get bigger sizes
dunnoe got such good deal or not...

but this ring bigger 4 sizes...which i also worry the resizing issue...
i saw my friends after resize become a bit odd shape...like cut at bottom and force clip the cutting end...
while left and right case looks bending and not round curve already

wondering do really the width & length different 0.25mm very much? if nt comparing side by side...

For diamonds, I have never heard of any maintenance before. Perhaps you are referring to the maintenance of the ring setting? If yes, then perhaps can try iDo Jewellery at Bukit Jalil or Memory Jewellery at Sentul. You can aldo try to pay old shops like Po Chan jewellery at Petaling Street a visit as well. There is a good review about Po Chan on TripAdvisor regarding resizing: https://www.tripadvisor.com.my/ShowUserRevi...ersekutuan.html.

This is probably one of the cons of buying diamond online, but as long as the setting is done locally, you can probably visit the jeweler who did your setting for consultation and advice.

Recently another bro just asked about Estrella so I know lor. Some more this kind of proportions usually belong to Hearts and Arrows diamond. And Estrella is one of them. Ok, so for this stone... It is pretty good. In fact, it may have the best fire because of the steep crown angle and the smaller table. If size is your main criteria then it is fine, but as mentioned before, some said IGI is more lenient in terms of colour (not sure about clarity though). However IGI Hong Kong seems to be quite reputable and according to what I read on PriceScope (a popular diamond forum), it is quite on par with AGS. But then, Estrella should be graded by IGI Antwerp, and colour may be a bit lenient. Heck, even AGS can be more lenient compared to GIA by a grade or two in terms of colour(according to some people, but to me it is still on par to me, some GIA stones even goes a colour grade lower when graded by AGS), but they are better in terms of cut and clarity. I have to emphasize this is what I have read online, not looking at the diamonds myself. I am just sharing what I know and what I find makes sense to me, but for whatever we read online, do take it with a pinch of salt.

So, my view is - Get the D colour diamond. So even if there is really a colour difference compared to GIA, it may still be quite colourless. Also, you won't have to worry about resizing. As for size, it should be noticeable but then I think D colour is more tempting. Have you checked with them whether they can cast you a new platinum ring? In case you want the F VS1? I seriously won't recommend resizing a ring. It is like car bumper kena hit and then go to the workshop and reshape it. It will most likely won't look or feel the same.

As for size, it may be noticeable, maybe slightly. Just get the 3 rings snd view yourself bro.

Lastly, the price is not cheap. You can get AGS graded stones online at a better price. But then, Diamond & Platinum can provide you one-stop service, so is give and take. If you set your eyes on Estrella and need further help, I am all ears. Good luck!

p.s. You bring your gf along?

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Oct 1 2017, 02:30 PM

guys, sorry to crash this place...
I'm looking into engagement ring with a very tight budget (hopefully not five figures...). I'm thinking if it's still possible to squeeze a GIA diamond in it? I'm a complete noob in engagement ring finding, so any guide/suggestions is very welcomed. A few thoughts are:
1. Is assemblying my own ring cheaper (e.g. Bluenile) or just crash WahChan?
2. I know at my level i'm probably looking at 0.2-0.3 carat. Any idea where is cheapest to get? Also what would be the cost of the ring itself be like?

Thanks.

Hello. Don’t worry. There are a lot of options below 5 figures.

GIA triple excellents are everywhere. Perhaps you can let us know your budget and see what 4Cs to start with.

just came back..
i use diamdb try have digital impression on the size variance 1st. basically seems the same...one round smaller only
Comparison <link


I would probably take Opt 1 0.301 carat one due to the D color, so even if is graded by GIA to E or F...still colorless and bring more brighter sparks. Somemore its within 62% depth and 35% crown angle
i checked with them already, they dont change the ring while the ring is fixed together with diamond in set. However they can resize for us foc.
But its talking abt 4 size to downsize...the design dunnoe will run or not. Somemore i source platinum resize unlike whitegold, it will leave a cut mark and more complex a bit to resize compare to whitegold.

still waiting they arrange all 3 rings to the outlet then made the final decision.
See by naked eyes and the H&A scope then made final decision.
Just hope the inclusion of Ring A wont cause any issue. as hv 2 crystal marking on table...

ok...so to your question.
actually i pretend jalan jalan then windows see see PohKong hemera then the SA drag us into and talk a lot.
then she get hyped & tempted and caused these few weeks when walking in mall she had windows shopping Tomei, Love&Co, Sk & D&P. However she get attracted by D&P diamond due to fire sparkling more than other brand & the classic 4'prong palm holding design.
So i just lock on this brand...too bad too late to get to know this thread.
If nt sure get from whiteflash as it can view all images then customize D&P's platinum ring design setting.

I guess if i took option 0.301carat, i would be paying extra 2k? compare using eportal ie. whiteflash + customize platinum setting.

But as long as during i propose i see her happy face then what also worth alrd.
counting down to nov...

This post has been edited by DjS: Oct 2 2017, 12:29 AM

I just randomly checked on WhiteFlash and found this: 0.311 D VS1 https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link). Proportions are not bad. Just that its IdealScope and ASET is not one of the best. Hopefully the slight reduce in light return can enhance the fire... just a guess, but hopefully. Anyway, for the sake of comparison, this diamond will cost around RM 3965.33, including GST. Platinum setting may cost around RM 2500 - RM 3000. So the price difference is not as much as 2k. So don’t worry about it. If your setting is more complicated, and has side diamonds, then naturally it is worth more as well. Most importantly you have found something she likes. So, good for you!

If resize like half size or one size then OK. Resize sampai 4 sizes better not man. Cuz someone posted on this thread a few months ago about a terribly done resizing job by a local jeweller. Totally ruined his ring design and on top of that, his ring became like an egg shape.

hi all,

may i have your opinion on below diamond:-

March 10, 2017
GIA Report Number ....................................................... 2254164349
Shape and Cutting Style ........................................... Round Brilliant
Measurements ............................................... 4.93 - 4.96 x 3.07 mm
Carat Weight ........................................................................ 0.46 carat
Color Grade ........................................................................................ E
Clarity Grade .................................................................................... VS2
Cut Grade ............................................................................... Excellent
Polish ..................................................................................... Excellent
Symmetry .............................................................................. Excellent
Fluorescence ................................................................................ Faint
Clarity Characteristics.................. Twinning Wisp, Crystal, Feather
Inscription(s): GIA 2254164349

many thanks !


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