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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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unreal03253
post Aug 30 2017, 11:21 PM

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Hi All,

may i get your opinion on below diamond:-

March 09, 2017
GIA Report Number ....................................................... 7258102735
Shape and Cutting Style ........................................... Round Brilliant
Measurements ............................................... 4.69 - 4.72 x 2.94 mm
Carat Weight ........................................................................ 0.40 carat
Color Grade ........................................................................................ D
Clarity Grade .................................................................................. VVS2
Cut Grade ............................................................................. Very Good
Polish ..................................................................................... Excellent
Symmetry .............................................................................. Excellent
Fluorescence ............................................................................... None
Clarity Characteristics................................................ Cloud, Pinpoint

thinking of getting it. quotation was around 5.5k for diamond itself.

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unreal03253
post Oct 2 2017, 10:33 PM

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hi all,

may i have your opinion on below diamond:-

March 10, 2017
GIA Report Number ....................................................... 2254164349
Shape and Cutting Style ........................................... Round Brilliant
Measurements ............................................... 4.93 - 4.96 x 3.07 mm
Carat Weight ........................................................................ 0.46 carat
Color Grade ........................................................................................ E
Clarity Grade .................................................................................... VS2
Cut Grade ............................................................................... Excellent
Polish ..................................................................................... Excellent
Symmetry .............................................................................. Excellent
Fluorescence ................................................................................ Faint
Clarity Characteristics.................. Twinning Wisp, Crystal, Feather
Inscription(s): GIA 2254164349

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unreal03253
post Oct 4 2017, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 3 2017, 01:01 AM)
36 degree crown angle is too steep. Also, do note that it has faint fluorescence, which should lower the price of this diamond when compared to similar one without fluorescence. How much is this diamond?
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was quoted RM6.1k for this diamond itself. so is a no no for this?
unreal03253
post Oct 22 2017, 07:34 PM

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Hi all, whats your comment on GIA 2254388184

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post Oct 22 2017, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 22 2017, 09:36 PM)
For GIA graded stones, due to their nature of rounding crown angles and pavilion angles, the actual crown angle can either be 35.3, 35.4, 35.5, 35.6, or 35.7, while for pavilion angles, the actual angle can either be 40.9 or 41. So input a few possible combinations into HCA and it still score above 2. If the pairing of this diamond is 35.3 crown and 40.9 pavilion, it scores 2.8, but inputing what I got from the cert, it scores 3.9. The pairing of steep crown angle and slighly steep pavilion angle seems to be the problem here. What price they offer you?
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was quoted around 5.6k for diamond itself. any good suggestion for ring setting? any recommended shop or dealer?

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unreal03253
post Oct 23 2017, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 22 2017, 11:09 PM)
This stone scores a HCA score that is too high (low is better). You may want to take a look at the actual stone before deciding to purchase or not. If you buying blind or without any images, then I suggest you look elsewhere.

Based on proportions alone, this diamond is much better:
http://www.zoara.com/diamonds/p_round_exce...id=myengringexp (affiliate link). It is a D VVS1. The arrows are very well-aligned. There seem to be some light obstruction at the 5 o'clock and 6 o'clock positions, meaning that its optical precision is not that good, but at this price, with this quality, I think it beats what other vendors can offer you. This diamond has a good pairing between crown angle and pavilion angle, whereby the crown angle is steep while the pavilion angle is on the shallow side. Therefore, it should be quite a decent stone.

It scores a 0.9 on HCA and 100% on Enchanted Cut Score for GIA-7263790400. The price is USD 1133 + USD 30 for handling fees. So total will be USD 1163. MoneyMatch current exchange rate is 4.2589, and the RM price is shown as 4953.15. Add 6% GST and some misc. fees, the price will be approximately RM 5300.00... Therefore, you get a stone with better proportions, higher colour grade, at a cheaper price. If you decided to buy from them, appreciate if you can use the link provided above and I will be rewarded with some commission. TQ!

For ring setting, look for Memory Jewellery at Sentul. He can customize your ring settings at a reasonable price. Ask for slightly wider ring and extra rhodium plating for longer lasting ring. Try to request for palladium in the white gold settings, and see if he can cater for it, if not, he will most likely use nickel in his white gold, which is pretty standard anyway. Alternative will be iDo Jewellery at Bukit Jalil. Her rings are solid and contains palladium for its white gold. Workmanship is good as well.

On a side note, there is really no need to go til VVS1, VS1, IMO is sufficient. You can filter them out on Zoara as well. Filter diamonds with images, it will certainly help.
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Thanks bro kambing. The recommended diamond fits my budget and liking very well. Any other diamond brand other than zoara? Gonna get either one oft them by this week

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post Oct 23 2017, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 23 2017, 12:55 PM)
Try PetraGems as well. You can google it. I am not affiliated with them and I don't know whether they ship to Malaysia or not, but it seems pretty ok to me. Other than that, you can visit www.niceice.com and see the list of GIA triple excellent vendors at the bottom of the page. Some of them like BlueNile and JamesAllen do not ship to Malaysia. So you have to ask them.
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Thanks bro kambing. Back to your suggested diamond, does it come with good H&A and others pointers? Would you recommend to grab the ring setting from zoara as well? Altho it kinda pricey compare to local, but some of the design looks amazing.

For your comment.
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post Oct 23 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 23 2017, 01:33 PM)
I won't rate it a pure H&A diamond due to its light obstruction. High optical precision diamonds will not cause that. However, I would say it is a decent diamond that I will consider, factoring in the 4C requirements as well as the budget requirement. Not everyone needs a super ideal. I am more of a proportion-first person. Sometimes you can certainly see nice H&A diamonds with very very steep crown angles, but that may sacrifice the brightness of the diamond. That's I will filter out by proportions first, then only take a look at the available images.

If you want super ideal H&A with GIA cert, then I suggest you message JannPaul from Singapore, but I am pretty sure the price will be more expensive.

Of  course I will welcome you to do the setting with Zoara as well, my commission increases with it what. tongue.gif But then, I always prefer to play safe and decide to get it done locally, this is because it will be easier to resize. Secondly, sometimes the workmanship may be a bit off as well, making us hard to go for after-sales service. Of course, I will get whatever I like from online if I am so sure and confident that the ring will fit nicely and feel comfy, and the workmanship is there. Anyway, you can approach Memory Jewellery (just Facebook them) and let them know what you have in mind, they have all the expertise and tools to create a nice ring for you. If you girlfriend is sensitive to nickel, ask them to use palladium instead. Their price is also pretty reasonable.

Let me know if you need further assistance.
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Thanks master sifu. Can you recommend some good diamond from whiteflash/jannpaul with budget around 6k looking for around 0.4c, E, 3EX, Vvs1/2 with minimal flourescent. And also how long it takes from these two dealer to ship to MY

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post Oct 23 2017, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 23 2017, 02:34 PM)
Does your 6K include or exclude ring setting?
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Master 6-6.5k is for diamond itself. Ring setting budget another 2k
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post Oct 23 2017, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 23 2017, 02:57 PM)
Replied on previous post. tongue.gif.

If you want better Hearts & Arrows diamond, you can visit black.briangavindiamonds.com/?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link), but they are out of stock for E VVS 40-pointers at the moment because a guy just ordered a 5-stone (40-pointers E colour) ring!  blink.gif
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Thanks master sifu. It takes how long for whiteflash to send to MY
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post Oct 23 2017, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 23 2017, 02:57 PM)
Replied on previous post. tongue.gif.

If you want better Hearts & Arrows diamond, you can visit black.briangavindiamonds.com/?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link), but they are out of stock for E VVS 40-pointers at the moment because a guy just ordered a 5-stone (40-pointers E colour) ring!  blink.gif
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Thanks master. Had placed order on your whiteflash suggestion. Thanks again

 

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