From my office i can oversee prelude on the berth but im not stationed in SHI.

Thats a big oversight if peple can mix up 25mm with 250mm.

Here in korea, i made it very clear that they follow all the instructions given to them to the letter, and i do periodic spot checks and highlight any areas which fail to meet with said procedures.

The workmanship for the most part in korea is far superior than what you can get in singapore. Plus they build their ships/rigs in blocks/modules which is a faster, more efficient and less dangerous method of constructing things.

The only problem is it requires skill workmanship, additional heavy lifting equipment and good management to build the way they do, something singapore shipyards lack in all three areas compared to korea.

Doesnt mean korean ppl dont make mistakes or are stubborn as shit, just today got a dispute on one of their fabricated items, looks like i gotta make a "findings" report again.

Well what to expect for a guy being paid SGD 1-2 dollar an hour. lol. well at least i could make use of the 250 and split by 10. At least i know the welder have plenty to spare. lol.

I honestly know these guys are way underpaid, so i expected monkey results on my stuff. Those shipyard guys knew i was laughing like hell at those not knowing the difference between 250 mm and 25mm.

Apparently Korean welders are one the bloody best in the world, even Australia knows it. We use to send our pipes there for really expensive welding control valves, just cant afford to f*** it up when we can buy a Ferrari with one valve.

Few days ago my korean QM whom is attached to my project mentioned that at another project which he was handling, the sub-contractor ordered galvanized pipes from china, most likely to save cost. Guess what, dont know when receiving the goods, the sub-contractor did not do a receiving inspection on said items until the QM had to check for himself that the pipes were not capped properly at the flanges but were just wrapped up with vinyl. So moisture got into the galvanized pipes, especially the mouths of the flanges which naturally rusted since those areas are not galvanized.

But the shit didnt stop there, even the internal surface of the pipes had patches of rust which meant that the galvanizing was done poorly.

luckily for my project, most of the special areas items like the steel plates are imported from japan since even korea steel couldnt make the mark.

Lol. I really respect those people. Always dont give a dam. Sure screw up.

I heard a lot of great stories from China. Never had the chance to go there since I cant speak Mandarin.

As an engineer, I want to cry when i read those comments.

Wah so geng . All hail chicken feather .

Refund my ABSD I burn my degree scroll to support him, throw in my master too.

Jadilah warga negara Singapura.

ABSD (Additional Buyer's Stamp Duty) baru 7% on second property. First one freeeeee. kah kah kah . Did you know he Penang mali?

Throwing an old story....

Norway rig owner awaiting answers after sinking drama in South Korea
Odfjell Drilling still does not know how the 'Deepsea Aberdeen' could sink while it was under construction at Daewoo's Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering yard, Saturday morning.
Marius B. Staveli Journalist, Jan Oddvar Eide Journalist, Michael Sandelson Translator
Publisert: 02.jan. 2014 15:34 Oppdatert: 03.jan. 2014 16:39

Daewoo was still constructing the Norwegian company's 'Deepsea Aberdeen' at their South Korea yard when she went down.


Bergen-based National Oilwell Varco (NOV) had 38 employees working on the rig at the time when she took on water. All were evacuated immediately and brought to land in safety.

There were no injuries, NOV managing director Tor Henning Ramfjord in southern Norway's Kristiansand told regional paper Fædrelandsvennen, Saturday. NOV added they had the situation under control.


No answers for now
"We're still waiting for information from the yard as to why the rig sank, and we can't currently comment further on the matter, Odfjell communications director Gisle Johanson said to Aftenbladet, Monday.

"We're in regular contact with the yard, but have to wait until we get the confirmed information from Daewoo before we can form an independent opinion as to the cause of the incident and its consequences. It's the yard's responsibility to follow up and investigate the incident, but we'll be closely following work they are doing to uncover the causes and consequences," added Mr Johanson.

Demands
He describes Daewoo as a serious and experienced player. The company has previously constructed two similar rigs for Odfjell, the 'Deepsea Atlantic' and 'Deepsea Stavanger'. The new 'Deepsea Aberdeen' will be almost an exact copy of the second rig, which is currently in operation for BP in Tanzania. Statoil is leasing the 'Deepsea Atlantic' from Odfjell up to 31 August 2015.

"We have had a long and good cooperation with the yard and expect that they now take responsibility for finding the cause of the rig sinking, and to ensure a good implementation of the rest of the construction process," Mr Johanson stated.

On the side notes; for some reasons one of our drillship that currently in SHI now delay one quarter from the original delivery schedule.

We built 8 semis and few jack ups in Kfels and all delivered ahead of schedule.

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Pls pm me...

There are always a spread of among a population, normal distribution for most case. Those you met are just a small group, cannot generalise the whole industry. You, for example, are also not the best in your own field I suppose, wonder what the top 5% will comment on your capability

The guy step on your tail? Reconsidering the offer to join your company

Hi all, I'm headache right now, hope experts here can help me to solve this.
3 months ago, I get a job offer from Singapore(2nd time work in sg, 1st time was about 10 years ago, after that study in kl and working for 8 years)
So I take up the offer(small company, just 4 ppl include boss) and resign(my boss say apply for EP sure no problem) every week I ask my employer what is the status.
At the 3rd weeks, my employer told me the EP rejected(as what he say is bcos the mom drop his email) and he going to do appealing.
So I keep on waiting for the status and every day my employer told me the status is pending(from EP online I only see rejected)
Until last 2 weeks another company come to me for interview, as I also don't know when the result coming out or it will totally no result, I go for the interview.
This morning, the 2nd company offer me
This afternoon, the 1st company told me the EP approved
I don't know what to do, 2nd company offer better and better future, I thinking to taking up the 2nd offer, but the EP is already approve, I don't know whether can reject or not, and will the reject affect the future EP application.

Pls help me

Probably try to seek advice from MOM? I think they'll be willing to answer you Just call and ask without revealing your ID, see whether such cases happen before and what can be done.

Because you can't ask either company. If you tell the first company, later they cause you to be blacklisted. If go ask second company, later they give you up don't want to help you to solve the problem. So better ask professional advice from MOM itself

Thanks, I going to meet my 2nd company asking for their advise
After that I will call mom.

I would be wary of singapore shipyards quality control since i used to work as a sub-contractor for all the major yards.

In keppel fels case, for the most part, the quality is ok, not good just so-so. I am not familiar with the projects delivery schedule but if they fail to meet the deadline, then proper procedure will be thrown out of the window, especially in the QA/QC department which i reported to when i was a subi there. I only had a handful of bad experiences in fels but keppel shipyard at pioneer sector 1 is the worst offender. On numerous occasions due to the heavy workload and not enough manpower, they will "coerce" people to sign off on reports that they never did the the inspection work on due to time constraints.

If you didnt sign it off, they will usually complain to your company and if the company doesnt comply with their wishes, then they just drop you off and find another inspection company who will do their bidding which isnt very difficult. They will usually get inspection companies who are mainly staffed with indian nationals and the bosses who are also indian nationals as well.

The reason why they try finish ahead of schedule is they will get a bonus for completing work ahead of schedule, at the cost of quality and the uncertainty of the product that they are fabricating. Fortunately this doesnt really apply to third party vendors such as the electrical systems, hydraulics etc.

This post has been edited by crapp0: Sep 24 2014, 08:53 AM

I dont think shipyard are crowded with Singaporean with a pay of 1-2 dollar, if you get what i mean.

That is why i understand these people, i dont make them work for satan at the price they are paid and the hours they worked. That my friend you can gain their respect and willingness to work together with you. Yes, they do make mistakes due to fatigue, learn to move on from there. All the shouting and finger pointing will get you no where, sometimes a laughter will let everyone learn in a positive manner.

Do not assume people's ability and capability by comparing those at the top 5%. There is always someone more experience in the end of the day. They too will know who are good and not.

This post has been edited by razo2: Sep 24 2014, 10:00 AM

Electrical and hydraulics often is a yes or no in terms of function, unlike fabrication. There is no such thing as half work done as commissioning engineer will know during FAT test.

What you say is correct. Due to the cheese hanging at the end of the stick, people often compromise the paper work and rules.

Even safety as well, very often people are caught not following the rules that end up in accidents/near miss especially in hot work. But in the end of the day is a balance between safety and cost. Too much safety means more cost and time, vise versa.

Most important question is have you signed that employment contract for the 1st company? If you did you need to serve the notice period as agreed on contract.
Breaking a contract agreement comes with penalty, like pay for cost incurred for processing the EP and HR.

If didnt, just move on to MOM. Ask them what to do and sign your 2nd offer that you are interested in.

Hi, thanks first.
I haven't sign any thing(employment contract/offer letter) with the 1st company.

Then you are safe ,mate. Proceed to call MOM. Congrats btw.