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 AMD® Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread, discuss our setup/overclocking issues

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sjn hassan
post Feb 3 2007, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Feb 3 2007, 01:02 PM)
Actually...there is a database.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/242290
But only 3 AM2 users r posting...i guess we should post there.
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but most of us active here compare that thread blush.gif
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post Feb 3 2007, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Feb 2 2007, 10:05 PM)
thanks..actually im not using it for oc but only for checking my vcore and clock..
btw un-installed it already...plus all the utilities that bundled together from the driver cd..
but now running on default..will try to oc again later
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i noe u just check vcore and clock using this utility. wut i mean, everytime this software running, even u want to check vcore and clock (not to oc) it will change ur setting laugh.gif
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post Feb 3 2007, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Feb 2 2007, 10:05 PM)
thanks..actually im not using it for oc but only for checking my vcore and clock..
btw un-installed it already...plus all the utilities that bundled together from the driver cd..
but now running on default..will try to oc again later
its from bulk order..u might wanna check there but i doubt it still available for sale..
but i think lyp got a plenty of stocks... smile.gif
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doh.gif
I think u misread me.
I was telling u to read the vcore and temp using the Biostar T hardware monitor utility, not the OC tool. doh.gif
The monitoring one is pretty accurate...it wont change ur clock.
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post Feb 3 2007, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Feb 2 2007, 11:28 PM)
i think we can make a cpu database according to the stepping & oc achivement
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i think it would be tedious. i don't really mind but most noobs nowadays didn't bother writing down their stepping codes. i really hate to list 'incomplete' stepping codes.
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QUOTE(camedemac @ Feb 3 2007, 03:00 PM)
i noe u just check vcore and clock using this utility. wut i mean, everytime this software running, even u want to check vcore and clock  (not to oc) it will change ur setting laugh.gif
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Feb 3 2007, 04:57 PM)
doh.gif
I think u misread me.
I was telling u to read the vcore and temp using the Biostar T hardware monitor utility, not the OC tool. doh.gif
The monitoring one is pretty accurate...it wont change ur clock.
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oic..my bad my bad..
sorry for misunderstood ur meaning..
btw i wont using any of tforce utility anymore..
like soulfly said,use speedfan instead.
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post Feb 4 2007, 02:28 PM

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Quoted from www.dailytech.com

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The desktop equivalent of Barcelona, codenamed Agena, is the 65nm flagship of AMD's next-generation desktop processors.  Launch frequencies were quoted at "2.4 - 2.6GHz." Previous roadmaps had indicated Agena would debut at 2.7 to 2.9 GHz.  Agena will have a 2MB L2 and 2MB L3 cache per CPU.  AMD's internal guidance denotes this as a 125W TDP processor. As the flagship, Agena will be the first next-generation desktop launch and is scheduled for Q3'07.

Kuma, the dual-core mainstream next-generation desktop processor was quoted as having launch frequencies of "2.0 - 2.9GHz."  Unlike the quad-core Agena processors, Kuma will feature 1MB of L2 and 2MB of shared L3 cache. Kuma will launch with both 89W and 65W TDP variants, but Energy Efficient models scheduled for 35W TDP will follow shortly after.

Rana, the next-generation Sempron successor codename, will launch with frequencies in the 2.1 to 2.3 GHz range.  The dual-core CPUs will feature 1MB of total L2 cache, but no L3 cache.  Rana's TDP is rated at 65W.  Rana will not launch with the Agena flagship; AMD roadmaps have the processor launching at the same time as the Energy Efficient Kuma processors, or approximately Q4'07 if the launch schedule holds together.

As previously reported on DailyTech, Stars processors will use AM2+ motherboards.  These processors can plug into existing AM2 motherboards today given the proper BIOS updates, but without the AM2+ sockets Stars processors will drop down to the HyperTransport 1.0 bus speeds.

AMD's Agena FX codename also appears to still exist on the roadmap.  The only difference at this point between Agena and Agena FX is that Agena FX will use the Socket 1207+ interface.


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The Socket AM2+ is the immediate successor to Socket AM2 currently used in several AMD processors such as Athlon 64 X2, Socket AM2+ will be a mid migration from Socket AM2 to Socket AM3 and will be fully compatible with Socket AM2, so processors designed for Socket AM2 will work on Socket AM2+ motherboards and vice versa.

Socket AM2+ will have some differences however that will be used in AM2+ chips, there are two main features in Socket AM2+ not in Socket AM2:

    * HyperTransport 3.0 operating at up to 2 GHz
    * Advanced power features summarized as having split power planes, probably one for CPU Cores, and the other for the Integrated Memory controller (IMC), this will help for more advanced power management control.

AMD confirmed that AM2 processors will work in AM2+ motherboards and AM2+ processors will work on AM2 motherboards. However, due to the lack of support of HyperTransport 3.0 and separated power planes in Socket AM2 motherboards, AM2+ chips will be limited to the specifications of Socket AM2 (HyperTransport 2.0 at the speed of 1 GHz, one power plane for both Cores and IMC). AM2 chips will not benefit from faster HyperTransport and separated power planes on AM2+ motherboards as they do not support them, AM2+ motherboard then fall back to compatibility mode using AM2 specifications.

According to confirmations from AMD, Socket AM2+ will have compatibility path with Socket AM3, AM3 processors will work in AM2 motherboards; however, AM2 processors will not be compatible with AM3 motherboards.


Therefore, our existing mainboard still can support the next generation AMD CPU, if the manufacturer provide BIOS update. However, AM2 mainboards are using HyperTransport 2.0, while AM2+ or AM3 mainboards are using HyperTransport 3.0
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I've read the article at pcmoddingmy:

DFI Infinity NF UltraII-M2 Review

but I do not understand why he can change the multiplier from 9 to 7 for the CPU? Isn't AMD Athlon64 is multiplier locked? Only AMD Athlon64 FX type has multiplier unlocked, isn't it?

Picture of his overclocking

Anyone can explain that?

This post has been edited by coolblade: Feb 4 2007, 08:42 PM
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post Feb 4 2007, 09:47 PM

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coolblade
for athlon64, multiplier is unlock downward.
while for FX series, multiplier fully unlock.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Feb 4 2007, 09:47 PM)
coolblade
for athlon64, multiplier is unlock downward.
while for FX series, multiplier fully unlock.
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Ok, noted. Thanks allenultra
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post Feb 5 2007, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(coolblade @ Feb 4 2007, 08:38 PM)
Picture of his overclocking

Anyone can explain that?
which part??

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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Feb 5 2007, 01:47 AM)
which part??
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CPUZ screenshot. pcmoddingmy did 2811.7 MHz by using multiplier 7. The proc is AMD Athlon64 AM2 3000+, which it's multiplier is 9. I thought the 'normal' Athlon64 processor's multiplier is locked, but allenultra pointed out that not totally locked. It is just multiplier unlocked downward. Only FX series is totally multiplier unlocked.
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Any AMD cpu that supports Cool n Quiet will be able to use lower multipliers, that simple.


Added on February 5, 2007, 12:04 pmanyway...minor update from me

2823MHz @ 1.45V
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Previously with 1.45V I could only pass Pi32M at 2807MHz, but after some little burn-in action I was able to increase by around 16MHz. brows.gif

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post Feb 5 2007, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Feb 5 2007, 12:01 PM)
Any AMD cpu that supports Cool n Quiet will be able to use lower multipliers, that simple.


Added on February 5, 2007, 12:04 pmanyway...minor update from me

2823MHz @ 1.45V
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Previously with 1.45V I could only pass Pi32M at 2807MHz, but after some little burn-in action I was able to increase by around 16MHz. brows.gif
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wa...nice leh..with OcBible?

i already burn in many time but i dun got any increase on my cpu yawn.gif
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i didn't use OCbible .... just SiSandra burn-in

OCbible only confuses me rclxub.gif
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hehe..we got the same result brows.gif
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post Feb 5 2007, 08:56 PM

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If setting HT link above 1000 MHz, is it stable for long run? Coz some forumers said it is advisable to keep it below 1000 MHz.
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i would say anywhere near 1000mhz should be okay ... i recommend to try keep it around 900~1100mhz
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mine can keep it stable at 1200
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wondering wat's the differences if HT higher then computer will run faster? or when multitasking then only can see the effect?
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QUOTE(glare842006 @ Feb 5 2007, 09:56 PM)
wondering wat's the differences if HT higher then computer will run faster? or when multitasking then only can see the effect?
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last time i see an article that say HT multiple 3x and 4x wont different much~~

we cant notice any significant changes, but for safety better keep around 1000~ nod.gif

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