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post Feb 24 2014, 05:59 PM, updated 12y ago

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This is the tread for discussions related to all kinds of PNB funds
Please refer to past discussions for information already discussed:


V1 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/347861
V2 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1120959
V3 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2256158
V4 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2940861

Kindly read FAQ to know more about ASNB funds for newcomer.

ASNB UNIT TRUST TRANSACTION
SALARY DEDUCTION
EPF MEMBERS’ INVESTMENT SCHEME
CLAIM OF DECEASED ACCOUNT
ELIGIBILITY TO INVEST
LOST ASNB INVESTMENT BOOK
UPDATE/ CHANGE PERSONAL PARTICULARS
INTERNET BANKING FACILITY

Funds:

1 - SEKIM AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL (ASN) **

Financial Year End: December 31
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2008 - 5.50
2009 - 5.20
2010 - 6.00
2011 - 6.05
2012 - 6.30
2013 - 6.45

2 - AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL 2 (ASN2) **

Financial Year End: June 30
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional 2(ASN2) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.20
2010 - 5.20
2011 - 5.50
2012 - 6.50
2013 - 7.10

3 - AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL3 IMBANG (ASN3) *

Financial Year End: November 30
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional 3 (ASN3) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 7.00
2010 - 5.50
2011 - 6.00
2012 - 6.30
2013 - 6.40

4 - AMANAH SAHAM GEMILANG - PENDIDIKAN (ASG-P) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Gemilang Pendidkan (ASG-P) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.50
2010 - 5.50
2011 - 5.60
2012 - 7.00
2013 - 7.10

5 - AMANAH SAHAM GEMILANG - KESIHATAN (ASG-K) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Gemilang Kesihatan (ASG-K) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.00
2010 - 6.00
2011 - 6.10
2012 - 7.10
2013 - 7.20

6 - AMANAH SAHAM GEMILANG - PERSARAAN (ASG-P) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Gemilang Persaraan (ASG-P) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.00
2010 - 5.00
2011 - 5.10
2012 - 7.05
2013 - 7.30

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post Feb 24 2014, 06:01 PM

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7 - SKIM AMANAH SAHAM BUMIPUTERA (ASB) **

Financial Year End: December 31
Historical Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2008 - 7.00 + 1.75
2009 - 7.30 + 1.25
2010 - 7.50 + 1.25
2011 - 7.65 + 1.15
2012 - 7.75 + 1.15
2013 - 7.70 + 1.00
(Dividend) + (Bonus)

8 - AMANAH SAHAM WAWASAN 2020 (ASW 2020) *

Financial Year End: August 31
Historical Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 (ASW2020) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 7.00
2010 - 6.30
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.70

9 - AMANAH SAHAM MALAYSIA (ASM) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Malaysia (ASM) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.25
2010 - 6.30
2011 - 6.38
2012 - 6.80
2013 - 6.50

10 - AMANAH SAHAM DIDIK (ASD) **

Financial Year End: June 30
Historical Amanah Saham Didik (ASD) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.30
2010 - 6.35
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.80
2014 - 6.60

11 - AMANAH SAHAM 1MALAYSIA (AS 1MALAYSIA) *

Financial Year End: September 30
Historical Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) Dividend Rate for past 3 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2010 - 6.38
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.80

* - Eligible to all MALAYSIAN
** - Eligible to all BUMIPUTERA

Common Q and A:

- For Non Bumiputera, THE ONLY available funds for you is variable fund, those with the (*) and funds number 3, 4, 5, and 6 mentioned above. And there is NO MORE units left to buy all the other fixed priced fund. And thus YOU CAN'T purchase online. Please do take note before having any questions regarding the matter mentioned above and we will NOT giving out the same answer again and again.

- For Variable Price UT, the price (NAV) will be different EVERY SINGLE DAY. Thus, the unit you purchase will not be always the same and also decrease by 5% for a single transaction. The 5% lost is the service charge. For example, the NAV price for today is 1.912. When you purchase 100 units of UT, its not 191.20 MYR, but you have to cash out 125.16 MYR for the 100 units.

Variable Price UT are (Based on NAV) : ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG - Pendidikan - Kesihatan - Persaraan
Fixed Price UT are (1.00 MYR per unit): ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M

Credit to :

Original Poster V1 doremon
Original Poster V2 cherroy
Original Poster V3 aeronic
and all the contributor a.k.a forumers who give vital and essential information in the past.

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Decoding PNB's Investment Strategy Ahead
http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2009/0...tegy-ahead.html

Old news, but somehow good for reading & understanding PNB icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi mates, just to share with you all that today I managed to top-up 2k into my ASM.

6 transactions in total : RM100, RM400, RM450, RM50 (first 1k) RM450 and RM550 (subsequent 1k).

I actually short RM100 during the first 1k transaction and I asked to onhold and rush to ATM machine. Pressed another number and waited for another turn to get the next 1k.

I knew I was lucky today and the satisfaction is really great after failed for the last few visits. So, good luck to all of us and keep trying whenever you have time to drop by. nod.gif



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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 26 2014, 12:08 AM)
Hi mates, just to share with you all that today I managed to top-up 2k into my ASM.

6 transactions in total : RM100, RM400, RM450, RM50 (first 1k) RM450 and RM550 (subsequent 1k).

I actually short RM100 during the first 1k transaction and I asked to onhold and rush to ATM machine. Pressed another number and waited for another turn to get the next 1k.

I knew I was lucky today and the satisfaction is really great after failed for the last few visits. So, good luck to all of us and keep trying whenever you have time to drop by.  nod.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Congrats...
You mean you tried
1st attempt : RM100 ... success
2nd attempt : RM400 ... success
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 26 2014, 12:08 AM)
Hi mates, just to share with you all that today I managed to top-up 2k into my ASM.

6 transactions in total : RM100, RM400, RM450, RM50 (first 1k) RM450 and RM550 (subsequent 1k).

I actually short RM100 during the first 1k transaction and I asked to onhold and rush to ATM machine. Pressed another number and waited for another turn to get the next 1k.

I knew I was lucky today and the satisfaction is really great after failed for the last few visits. So, good luck to all of us and keep trying whenever you have time to drop by.  nod.gif
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time? location? tongue.gif
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post Feb 26 2014, 07:32 AM

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nice dividend..
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 26 2014, 12:08 AM)
Hi mates, just to share with you all that today I managed to top-up 2k into my ASM.

6 transactions in total : RM100, RM400, RM450, RM50 (first 1k) RM450 and RM550 (subsequent 1k).

I actually short RM100 during the first 1k transaction and I asked to onhold and rush to ATM machine. Pressed another number and waited for another turn to get the next 1k.

I knew I was lucky today and the satisfaction is really great after failed for the last few visits. So, good luck to all of us and keep trying whenever you have time to drop by.  nod.gif
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I went on Tues as well. KOSONG for me. Looks like you snatched all the ASM before I tried my luck.

Next time, please leave some for me. Ha.

Cheerio.
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Feb 26 2014, 12:10 AM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif Congrats...
You mean you tried
1st attempt : RM100 ... success
2nd attempt : RM400 ... success
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I only managed to bank in RM200 with many trials by the bank officer..

Then, when it comes to printing error on the passbook, the officer say she will try for me RM1 and RM10, but somehow even with such a minimum amount, it is still failed.
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this ASN fund can buy in when there's seller ? is it open to all Malaysian ?
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 26 2014, 12:08 AM)
Hi mates, just to share with you all that today I managed to top-up 2k into my ASM.

6 transactions in total : RM100, RM400, RM450, RM50 (first 1k) RM450 and RM550 (subsequent 1k).

I actually short RM100 during the first 1k transaction and I asked to onhold and rush to ATM machine. Pressed another number and waited for another turn to get the next 1k.

I knew I was lucky today and the satisfaction is really great after failed for the last few visits. So, good luck to all of us and keep trying whenever you have time to drop by.  nod.gif
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So much effort just to get rm2k. Hard to get so treasure it. I am very thankful that I bought AS1M when few people wanted it and have never sold a single unit.
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 26 2014, 12:08 AM)
Hi mates, just to share with you all that today I managed to top-up 2k into my ASM.

6 transactions in total : RM100, RM400, RM450, RM50 (first 1k) RM450 and RM550 (subsequent 1k).

I actually short RM100 during the first 1k transaction and I asked to onhold and rush to ATM machine. Pressed another number and waited for another turn to get the next 1k.

I knew I was lucky today and the satisfaction is really great after failed for the last few visits. So, good luck to all of us and keep trying whenever you have time to drop by.  nod.gif
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Congrats n keep trying
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Feb 26 2014, 07:43 AM)
nice dividend..
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ASM dividend will b announce in Mar 14
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QUOTE(Purplewitch @ Feb 26 2014, 08:15 AM)
this ASN fund can buy in when there's seller ? is it open to all Malaysian ?
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If u refer to ASM, yes
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Hi guys,

I have been reading up about this PNB schemes and I have a rough idea how it works.
Realized that non bumis cant invest in all accounts.
My question now is that which account should I open up now as I'm pretty interested in investing in this fund.

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 26 2014, 08:28 AM)
So much effort just to get rm2k. Hard to get so treasure it. I am very  thankful that I bought AS1M when few people wanted it and have never sold a single unit.
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Yes, now regretting my in-action when AS1M was released.

My fear was it was a BIG fund at RM10 billion. Worry that the size might limit its return. Ha.

Wah, now you must be laughing all the way to the bank/ASNB. Ha.

Cheerio.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 26 2014, 08:53 AM)
ASM dividend will b announce in Mar 14
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I thought it will be on Mar 10. No?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Feb 26 2014, 09:33 AM)
Hi guys,

I have been reading up about this PNB schemes and I have a rough idea how it works.
Realized that non bumis can invest in all accounts.
My question now is that which account should I open up now as I'm pretty interested in investing in this fund.
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trying reading this 1st?
ELIGIBILITY TO INVEST
http://www.asnb.com.my/english/eligibility.htm

then links at that site.

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 26 2014, 10:08 AM)
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trying reading this 1st?
ELIGIBILITY TO INVEST
http://www.asnb.com.my/english/eligibility.htm

then links at that site.
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Wanted to say cant*

iPhone auto corrected it.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 26 2014, 10:07 AM)
I thought it will be on Mar 10. No?
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Wat I meant was March 2014, actual date dunno yet
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 26 2014, 10:49 AM)
Wat I meant was March 2014, actual date dunno yet
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My apology. Reading things differently. Ha.

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Is it wise to put all my money into ASB, or better to spread it out in ASB, ASW 2020, etc ?
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Is it wise to put all my money into ASB, or better to spread it out in ASB, ASW 2020, etc ?
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From risk management point of view, spread
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 26 2014, 11:15 AM)
From risk management point of view, spread
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Oh ok, cause the staff at maybank told me I should max my ASB first before putting any money in ASW, so just a little confused what to do.
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Oh ok, cause the staff at maybank told me I should max my ASB first before putting any money in ASW, so just a little confused what to do.
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Good advice. To me ASB n ASW same risk. Or maybe ASB less risk cos Bumi has privilege mah.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 26 2014, 10:06 AM)
Yes, now regretting my in-action when AS1M was released.

My fear was it was a BIG fund at RM10 billion. Worry that the size might limit its return. Ha.

Wah, now you must be laughing all the way to the bank/ASNB. Ha.

Cheerio.
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But during that period a lot of investment has better returns, opportunity lost cos reluctant to sell AS1M.
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QUOTE(mgb @ Feb 26 2014, 11:13 AM)
Is it wise to put all my money into ASB, or better to spread it out in ASB, ASW 2020, etc ?
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MAX ASB 1st.

Spreading in in here isnt' that wise because all under 1 big umbrella ( fixed price ).

some how, ASB have highest % return.
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QUOTE(mgb @ Feb 26 2014, 11:18 AM)
Oh ok, cause the staff at maybank told me I should max my ASB first before putting any money in ASW, so just a little confused what to do.
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I will max up my ASB first if i am a bumi.. the returns from ASB is higher than the other fixed price unit trusts..
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 26 2014, 11:15 AM)
From risk management point of view, spread
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What kind of risk? If PNB were about to crash, Im nearly sure they will crash other fund and save ASB first.

If risk of low dividend, historically ASB outperformed every ASX n ASXX fund.
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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Feb 26 2014, 12:43 PM)
What kind of risk? If PNB were about to crash, Im nearly sure they will crash other fund and save ASB first.

If risk of low dividend, historically ASB outperformed every ASX n ASXX fund.
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Wat if 1 of d listed counter in ASB portfolio (not in ASW) drop in value or didn't pay any dividend
Wat if 1 of d non listed counter in ASB portfolio (not in ASW) not performing financially
The list of 'wat if' will continue...


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i really believe in "luck" for getting AS1M unit for non-bumi.

last month manage to grab around RM 5K within 8 minutes of trying by post office officer. 6 transactions made up the total.

this month went almost one week straight to post office but not even able to get RM 10. so sad.....

will try again next month.
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QUOTE(Purplewitch @ Feb 26 2014, 08:15 AM)
this ASN fund can buy in when there's seller ? is it open to all Malaysian ?
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yup, u can get the units but must remember there's a lot of people also "trying" at the same time. 1.7k agent/branch whole Malaysia nod.gif

more information about which fund open for all Malaysian or just certain people, please refer to #1 & #2 icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(belibeli @ Feb 26 2014, 02:31 PM)
i really believe in "luck" for getting AS1M unit for non-bumi.

last month manage to grab around RM 5K within 8 minutes of trying by post office officer. 6 transactions made up the total.

this month went almost one week straight to post office but not even able to get RM 10. so sad.....

will try again next month.
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Actually it's depend on "timing". Some people tell me to "try" on Dec/Jan & 1st day after dividend reinvestment of the ASx fund icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Feb 26 2014, 10:25 PM)
Actually it's depend on "timing". Some people tell me to "try" on Dec/Jan & 1st day after dividend reinvestment of the ASx fund  icon_rolleyes.gif
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yes, correct. Manage to get unit on that day. Rate is 100% so far.
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time? location?  tongue.gif
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Mostly I will go around 11am something or 3pm something, but when the post office has long queue, I will just walk out...haha

This post office is located somewhere in KL where surrounded mostly by office so don't have much aunties, uncles, etc waiting to pay bills...and I will sneak out from work desk for a while if I managed to finish my work...hehe
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 26 2014, 07:47 AM)
I went on Tues as well. KOSONG for me. Looks like you snatched all the ASM before I tried my luck.

Next time, please leave some for me. Ha.

Cheerio.
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Hehe, don't worry brother, I have limited "ammunition" to load tongue.gif

PS : Can someone send me a link on how to multi quote reply? I was trying to google but can't find any notworthy.gif
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i got some ASW .
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 27 2014, 09:24 AM)
Mostly I will go around 11am something or 3pm something, but when the post office has long queue, I will just walk out...haha

This post office is located somewhere in KL where surrounded mostly by office so don't have much aunties, uncles, etc waiting to pay bills...and I will sneak out from work desk for a while if I managed to finish my work...hehe
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Yo job is so flexible
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 27 2014, 09:36 AM)
i got some ASW .
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Congrats
Each time u top up, u go for RM1k or more?
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 27 2014, 09:36 AM)
i got some ASW .
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Though my success rate in getting the ASX is already bad, getting ASW for me is right at the bottom of my strike ladder.

Now seeing your multiple strikes makes me wonder what am I doing wrong?

Better timing? Better and helpful staff? Nicer and smiling face (you) at the counter? ???

Cheerio.
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 27 2014, 09:24 AM)
Mostly I will go around 11am something or 3pm something, but when the post office has long queue, I will just walk out...haha

This post office is located somewhere in KL where surrounded mostly by office so don't have much aunties, uncles, etc waiting to pay bills...and I will sneak out from work desk for a while if I managed to finish my work...hehe
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 27 2014, 09:27 AM)
Hehe, don't worry brother, I have limited "ammunition" to load  tongue.gif

PS : Can someone send me a link on how to multi quote reply? I was trying to google but can't find any  notworthy.gif
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hahahah, u are actually very lucky to find the post office (without aunties/uncles) "trying" ASx or paying bills & it's so near to your working place thumbup.gif

Not everyone got "unlimited" ammo, most of us got some limit how much can we go sad.gif

for the multiple quote please refer link given => https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=faq&article=10
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 27 2014, 09:36 AM)
i got some ASW .
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u seem to get 1k / transaction based on all your previous post notworthy.gif I normally very hard to get 1k/transaction, need "smaller" amount then only can get it. even the staff also said the same thing, she said rm500 or rm800 then only got chance. if not rm100 multiple times transaction nod.gif
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Yo job is so flexible
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Feb 27 2014, 11:59 AM)
hahahah, u are actually very lucky to find the post office (without aunties/uncles) "trying" ASx or paying bills  & it's so near to your working place  thumbup.gif

Not everyone got "unlimited" ammo, most of us got some limit how much can we go  sad.gif

Yes, I appreciate this post office a lot and also trying to foster some friendly relationship with the staffs hoping that they will be more helpful and willing to spend more minutes in trying  rclxms.gif

for the multiple quote please refer link given  => https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=faq&article=10
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Well, tried at 3pm something and today no luck sweat.gif

And I just wondering, in terms of dividend growth, which fund is better? ASM? AS1M? ASW? because from the ASNB website, it seems AS1M and ASW is growing 0.1% per year for the last 3 years while ASM remained stagnant @ 6.5% for 2012 & 2013... blink.gif

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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 27 2014, 04:27 PM)
This is the thing I love the most for this job atm  thumbup.gif
Well, tried at 3pm something and today no luck  sweat.gif

And I just wondering, in terms of dividend growth, which fund is better? ASM? AS1M? ASW? because from the ASNB website, it seems AS1M and ASW is growing 0.1% per year for the last 3 years while ASM remained stagnant @ 6.5% for 2012 & 2013... blink.gif
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well, u can't get the units everyday, it's depend on units availability & how many people "chasing" it at the time nod.gif

about the dividend thing, I can't say much. What I know all the ASx fund pays "good" dividend rate even in "bad" year. Normally they keep some "profit" to be carried forward to next financial year rclxms.gif


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i am starting to believe that your account may have been categorized as bumiputra account  hmm.gif  nod.gif
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Can such mistake happen?  shakehead.gif  hmm.gif
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Hi, may I know when only can I open account for wawasan 2020 & 1 Malaysia? Must go to ASN open account? Where can i check is the lot is open for public beside newspaper?
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Huhu, wanted to know when will it be open as well. smile.gif
Really great stuffs to read over here, appreciate it much.


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Hi, may I know when only can I open account for wawasan 2020 & 1 Malaysia? Must go to ASN open account? Where can i check is the lot is open for public beside newspaper?
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U can open a/c at ASNB, Maybank, Cimb, Rhb n Pos

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Huhu, wanted to know when will it be open as well. smile.gif
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Just b patience n wait for news from ASNB
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Sorry but can i double confirm with you about the news you meant.
News as in newspaper reported news ? or online announcement from asnb?

Thank kiu!
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Sorry but can i double confirm with you about the news you meant.
News as in newspaper reported news ? or online announcement from asnb?

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Managed to get some ASW2020 units, just rm600 sweat.gif
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BTW, could I please get a clarification on this following matter:

a) In order to successfully opening a account (all funds type), the best period is after the announcement/declaration of divided?

Thanks guys appreciate for your help.
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BTW, could I please get a clarification on this following matter:

a) In order to successfully opening a account (all funds type), the best period is after the announcement/declaration of divided?

Thanks guys appreciate for your help.
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Managed to get some ASW2020 units, just rm600  sweat.gif
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I am waiting for the dividend date to come too~I will take leave and go to PNB HQ for account opening, AS1M & ASW2020 if possible~hehe

Just now went to post office during lunch time, not much ppl but the employee is not that helpful as compared to her colleagues...only tried once, Rm500, 400, 300, 200, 100, 50...tak ada la boss bye.gif
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I am waiting for the dividend date to come too~I will take leave and go to PNB HQ for account opening, AS1M & ASW2020 if possible~hehe

Just now went to post office during lunch time, not much ppl but the employee is not that helpful as compared to her colleagues...only tried once, Rm500, 400, 300, 200, 100, 50...tak ada la boss  bye.gif
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QUOTE(ming4play @ Feb 28 2014, 01:09 PM)
BTW, could I please get a clarification on this following matter:

a) In order to successfully opening a account (all funds type), the best period is after the announcement/declaration of divided?

Thanks guys appreciate for your help.
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Yes, but u need to also see the staff "willingness" to help u open the account. Some staff straight away even before "trying" already said "no units available". True story nod.gif
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Yes, but u need to also see the staff "willingness" to help u open the account.  Some staff straight away even before "trying" already said "no units available".  True story  nod.gif
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thanks for the info.
As per the previous thread v4, in regards to ASG. What do meant by 5% charges will be back after divided is declared?
Does this mean there will be no extra 5% NAV sales charges now ?
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thanks for the info.
As per the previous thread v4, in regards to ASG. What do meant by 5% charges will be back after divided is declared?
Does this mean there will be no extra 5% NAV sales charges now ?
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ASG service charges is 5%
Now they offer promotions @ 2% ony
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QUOTE(ming4play @ Feb 28 2014, 03:59 PM)
thanks for the info.
As per the previous thread v4, in regards to ASG. What do meant by 5% charges will be back after divided is declared?
Does this mean there will be no extra 5% NAV sales charges now ?
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refer to:
http://www.asnb.com.my/english/asg.htm
http://www.asnb.com.my/english/index.htm (left top is the pricing for the day)
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ASG service charges is 5%
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AS1M n ASW dividend crediting on 1st Oct n 1st Sep 2014
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Thanks for the info, it seems i still have to wait long time...hahaha...Initially I thought it was 1st April since I received my ASM dividend on this date brows.gif

Well, managed to top up another RM850 just now

RM100 + RM 100 + RM 100 + RM450 + RM100, I met the helpful employee who willing to try multiple time for me, it really depends on luck rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 28 2014, 06:06 PM)
Thanks for the info, it seems i still have to wait long time...hahaha...Initially I thought it was 1st April since I received my ASM dividend on this date  brows.gif

Well, managed to top up another RM850 just now

RM100 + RM 100 + RM 100 + RM450 + RM100, I met the helpful employee who willing to try multiple time for me, it really depends on luck 
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Maybe it's your luck today notworthy.gif

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Thanks for the info, it seems i still have to wait long time...hahaha...Initially I thought it was 1st April since I received my ASM dividend on this date  brows.gif

Well, managed to top up another RM850 just now

RM100 + RM 100 + RM 100 + RM450 + RM100, I met the helpful employee who willing to try multiple time for me, it really depends on luck  rclxms.gif
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omg, thanks. That clears everything.
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they counted in unit. Meaning u invest 100 MYR, you will not get 100 unit, but is follow the rate of the day. For sure is below 100 unit. However, now is 2 % till 14 march if not mistaken.
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Feb 28 2014, 06:06 PM)
Thanks for the info, it seems i still have to wait long time...hahaha...Initially I thought it was 1st April since I received my ASM dividend on this date  brows.gif

Well, managed to top up another RM850 just now

RM100 + RM 100 + RM 100 + RM450 + RM100, I met the helpful employee who willing to try multiple time for me, it really depends on luck  rclxms.gif
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You sure have a $ angel helping you! Ha.

It was a very disappointing and frustrating day for me today. Thought it was a good idea to do a few things (7 of them) in one go when I went to town but it back fired on me. vmad.gif

1. Went to a bank after lunch but it was not open until 1:45 pm for the Friday prayer. So waited for about 30 mins there. Second surprise was they did not have enough RM50s for my FD withdrawal (now don't jump the gun, not a lot lah, only XX,000). Waited for another 30 mins for them to sort this out.

2. Went to another bank to withdraw and the bank was packed. Did not bring my Priority Banking card but managed to jump queue after talking to the officer there. rclxm9.gif

3. Went to a bank to try my luck on the ASX. After my number was called, went to the counter and the teller told me to find a seat and wait. He called me back after some 3 mins only to tell me that no units were available. Don't really know whether he checked or not. One MB staff is considerate enough to show me the screen when he checked for units. Others do it behind "curtains". Ha. hmm.gif

4. Got a parking fine on my return form the bank. I was only 5 mins past my ticket time! Now I will have to pay for the fine! Adding salt to my injury! rclxub.gif

Learning for me is to avoid going to the banks on Fri (too many people and especially so being at the end of the month). And avoid doing too many things in one trip to town!

Cheerio.


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they counted in unit. Meaning u invest 100 MYR, you will not get 100 unit, but is follow the rate of the day. For sure is below 100 unit. However, now is 2 % till 14 march if not mistaken.
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Is either all or none.

Hope, everything will be fine!
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yea, around 20-25 days to go to know my decision is correct or wrong.

Is either all or none.

Hope, everything will be fine!
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Do we need ASB2?
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...o-we-need-ASB2/
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Honestly, I believe no. I would think that PNB should just increase the limit of each individual for ASB and done. I remembered when asking them the possibility of increasing the limits of ASB about a year back, the officers told me that there are several other instruments that we could use if our ASB account is already to the limit, so there is no need to increase the limit.

Then the news about the launch of ASB2. I am surprised.

With ASW, I had some luck putting in money at Maybank Shah Alam Branch (next to Grand Bluewave Hotel). For me it was a very significant deposit but it was cleared. Did it on Tuesday at about 3pm and 1 transaction.

Good Luck...
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It was a very disappointing and frustrating day for me today. Thought it was a good idea to do a few things (7 of them) in one go when I went to town but it back fired on me.  vmad.gif

3. Went to a bank to try my luck on the ASX. After my number was called, went to the counter and the teller told me to find a seat and wait. He called me back after some 3 mins only to tell me that no units were available. Don't really know whether he checked or not. One MB staff is considerate enough to show me the screen when he checked for units. Others do it behind "curtains". Ha.  hmm.gif

4. Got a parking fine on my return form the bank. I was only 5 mins past my ticket time! Now I will have to pay for the fine! Adding salt to my injury!  rclxub.gif

Learning for me is to avoid going to the banks on Fri (too many people and especially so being at the end of the month). And avoid doing too many things in one trip to town!

Cheerio.
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First & Last Friday of the month is always "busy" time. That's the time people pays the bill, transfer money, "add" ASx fund etc.

N.3 - I think he didn't even "try" for u, just doing "show" for u only nod.gif Never ever sit down, u must be there at the counter standing & looking the staff "trying" for u. Focus on the staff hand & finger & are they really "typing" the account & IC number in their keyboard. Not forgetting the passbook page number & last total balance amount. nod.gif
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Honestly, I believe no.  I would think that PNB should just increase the limit of each individual for ASB and done.  I remembered when asking them the possibility of increasing the limits of ASB about a year back, the officers told me that there are several other instruments that we could use if our ASB account is already to the limit, so there is no need to increase the limit.

Then the news about the launch of ASB2.  I am surprised. 

With ASW, I had some luck putting in money at Maybank Shah Alam Branch (next to Grand Bluewave Hotel).  For me it was a very significant deposit but it was cleared.  Did it on Tuesday at about 3pm and 1 transaction.   

Good Luck...
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You are the only the person that I know of disagree the formation of ASB2 scheme. Most Bumi friends that I know who have already Max their ASB are eagerly waiting for ASB2 nod.gif They are also hoping there's ASB2 loans & higher limit than the current 200k.

Congrats on getting the ASW2020 units & among the few who actually invested in ASW2020 bumi quota rclxms.gif
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Guys my asb book still have 12 lines more b4 finish. WTA can i ask them to make a new book now or a new book can only be made once the whole book have already been used up???
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Guys my asb book still have 12 lines more b4 finish. WTA can i ask them to make a new book now or a new book can only be made once the whole book have already been used up???
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Mar 1 2014, 08:21 PM)
Guys my asb book still have 12 lines more b4 finish. WTA can i ask them to make a new book now or a new book can only be made once the whole book have already been used up???
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Why u wanna change the passbook if still have 12 lines left rclxub.gif Your passbook cover already "hancur" until cannot recognize by the ASNB / bank counter staff laugh.gif
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Mar 1 2014, 08:21 PM)
Guys my asb book still have 12 lines more b4 finish. WTA can i ask them to make a new book now or a new book can only be made once the whole book have already been used up???
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By default, they will change 4 u for free once all lines utilized
However, u can request them to change b4 all lines utilized subject to pymt of fees

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Why u wanna change the passbook if still have 12 lines left  rclxub.gif  Your passbook cover already "hancur" until cannot recognize by the ASNB / bank counter staff laugh.gif
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By default, they will change 4 u for free once all lines utilized
However, u can request them to change b4 all lines utilized subject to pymt of fees
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I want to change my book bcs now a bit confusing. I told ur my case b4. 1 time i went withdraw money so happen my thumb was injured, the genius staff decided to change the thumb print on my book from left to right. So now things are really confusing. Bcs the jualan balik form also stated need left thumb print.
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I want to change my book bcs now a bit confusing. I told ur my case b4. 1 time i went withdraw money so happen my thumb was injured, the genius staff decided to change the thumb print on my book from left to right. So now things are really confusing. Bcs the jualan balik form also stated need left thumb print.
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U hold which fund?
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Mar 1 2014, 09:13 PM)
I want to change my book bcs now a bit confusing. I told ur my case b4. 1 time i went withdraw money so happen my thumb was injured, the genius staff decided to change the thumb print on my book from left to right. So now things are really confusing. Bcs the jualan balik form also stated need left thumb print.
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I tot u made it clear already?

In myKad, it have ur 10 finger prints, I don't know yours but, mine have.

As long a the amount is there and no wrong amount, you are safe
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Mar 1 2014, 09:13 PM)
I want to change my book bcs now a bit confusing. I told ur my case b4. 1 time i went withdraw money so happen my thumb was injured, the genius staff decided to change the thumb print on my book from left to right. So now things are really confusing. Bcs the jualan balik form also stated need left thumb print.
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oh it's u. now I remember your case. we all here already made it clear, as long the agents/ASNB branch verify your identity, then it's no problem. the thumb print on jualan balik form requirement is just for documentation purpose only.

if anyone complain on unauthorized withdrawal, then only they check back all the document given. if not, nothing happens. the only time they use it is when end of the day, the banks /ASNB do their daily balancing / closing account for the day nod.gif

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Can change passbook at maybank/cimb also?

Cheers
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You are the only the person that I know of disagree the formation of ASB2 scheme. Most Bumi friends that I know who have already Max their ASB are eagerly waiting for ASB2  nod.gif They are also hoping there's ASB2 loans & higher limit than the current 200k.

Congrats on getting the ASW2020 units & among the few who actually invested in ASW2020 bumi quota  rclxms.gif
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I disagree with the formation of the ASB2 scheme, because I believe that they should just increase the limit of the current ASB scheme that is already in place. I don't disagree with the ability to deposit further it is just that it would be more efficient to carry out the increase of deposit in ASB rather than creating another ASB scheme which is ASB2.

But if the powers decide that there is a need for another ASB scheme, hence the creation of ASB2 and this is the only platform to increase our investment then I am all for it. My point is why couldn't they increase the limits placed on the original ASB.

Even your friends are hoping that ASB2 provides full loan capabilities and more importantly higher limits that the current 200K, so what I am just saying is that forgo the need to provide another ASB scheme, just increase the limit of the current ASB. I sincerely hope that after this explanation why I disagree with the setting up of another ASB scheme. I just believe that PNB should increase the limits of the original ASB without creating another scheme especially when it is thought and structured to be the same as the original ASB.

Thanks for your thoughts.
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Can change passbook at maybank/cimb also?

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I heard that once ASB2 is launch in April, New application for ASB is "close" & all new application are diverted to the new ASB2 scheme shocking.gif ASB loans are maintain for those existing ASB unitholders & there's might be ASB2 loan as well. I don't know it's true or not, but it's seems logical to me hmm.gif rclxub.gif
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hi, i'm as1m holder (non-bumi) and would like to try m2u for more investment. Can you let me know if this is feasible? I heard that it's fully subscribed.

i'm pbb user. Will open maybank account just for this if it works.

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hi, i'm as1m holder (non-bumi) and would like to try m2u for more investment. Can you let me know if this is feasible? I heard that it's fully subscribed.

i'm pbb user. Will open maybank account just for this if it works.
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Mentioned before in the thread that non bumi portions have been fully subscribed and thus not available.

Some of us here go to banks, PO, ASNB to buy, to try our luck, hoping that there will be some non bumi selling his/hers when they check the system.

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cool....post office pun boleh? good....then every month i go try =)
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Yes, can try the PO.

From my many trips, I find the PO staff are more helpful and patient than bank staff in helping to get the available units.

No offence to the bank staff if there are some here in this forum.

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cool....post office pun boleh? good....then every month i go try =)
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Yes, can try the PO.

From my many trips, I find the PO staff are more helpful and patient than bank staff in helping to get the available units.

No offence to the bank staff if there are some here in this forum.

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cool....post office pun boleh? good....then every month i go try =)
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Last yr ASM declared 6.5 + 0.3 dividend
Wat is d estimated dividend for dis yr?
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Last yr ASM declared 6.5 + 0.3 dividend
Wat is d estimated dividend for dis yr?
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Last yr ASM declared 6.5 + 0.3 dividend
Wat is d estimated dividend for dis yr?
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I have not looked at ASM numbers in detail.

My guess is 0.1-0.3 better than last year. Why? EPF has done better than 2012. ASM should do better with a smaller fund size than EPF. Of course, they are not 100% identical in their operation, performance.

Just hope no unpleasant global economic news this month as that will reduce the final % (save some for next year line of thinking).

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Just hope no unpleasant global economic news this month as that will reduce the final % (save some for next year line of thinking).

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You are the only the person that I know of disagree the formation of ASB2 scheme. Most Bumi friends that I know who have already Max their ASB are eagerly waiting for ASB2  nod.gif They are also hoping there's ASB2 loans & higher limit than the current 200k.

Congrats on getting the ASW2020 units & among the few who actually invested in ASW2020 bumi quota  rclxms.gif
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how come nobody congratulate me one even though i help invest in AS1M, ASW2020 and ASM?

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FINALLY, got a strike this afternoon, 1K for ASM.

Many thanks to Mdm Chan of CIMB and the person who sold his/her ASM units. Ha.

Hope for more of this.
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FINALLY, got a strike this afternoon, 1K for ASM.

Many thanks to Mdm Chan of CIMB and the person who sold his/her ASM units. Ha.

Hope for more of this.
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Not bad, anyway congrats rclxms.gif

What baffle me is why people withdraw when divvy is just less than 1mth (1st Apr), wasted 1 year u know hmm.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 4 2014, 04:03 PM)
Not bad, anyway congrats  rclxms.gif

What baffle me is why people withdraw when divvy is just less than 1mth (1st Apr), wasted 1 year u know  hmm.gif  rclxub.gif
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I think the dividend is calculated monthly. Thus loosing out from March onward.

I am new to this ASX and I may be wrong. Ha.
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I think the dividend is calculated monthly. Thus loosing out from March onward.

I am new to this ASX and I may be wrong. Ha.
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I think its calculate based on lowest monthly balance.. hmm.gif

if withdraw last2 minutes, can lose 11mth divvy yo of the withdrawal money nod.gif it's just like giving away your money (interest) for "free" to PNB cry.gif

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one more thing, your 1k investment is ASM is not counted for this coming divvy, next year only get divvy for the 1k icon_rolleyes.gif

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Managed to open up an ASM account and got a few hundred units.
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 4 2014, 04:42 PM)
Managed to open up an ASM account and got a few hundred units.
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Not bad, anyway congrats  rclxms.gif

What baffle me is why people withdraw when divvy is just less than 1mth (1st Apr), wasted 1 year u know  hmm.gif  rclxub.gif
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Interest is calculated monthly based on lowest balance for tat month
If withdraw RM5k in Mar 2014, forego dividend on RM5k for Mar 2014 ony
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Interest is calculated monthly based on lowest balance for tat month
If withdraw RM5k in Mar 2014, forego dividend on RM5k for Mar 2014 ony
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oic, then we won't "lose" much if like that rclxms.gif
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Which agent u managed to open?
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Maybank, so would i get my interest this coming March or would it only start next year ?
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Maybank, so would i get my interest this coming March or would it only start next year ?
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Dividend calculation start from Apr to March next year nod.gif u could also try your luck this coming 1st April nod.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 4 2014, 06:05 PM)
Dividend calculation start from Apr to March next year  nod.gif  u could also try your luck this coming 1st April  nod.gif
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Thanks for all the help. Just curious, whats the easiest ASX that has a higher chance that i could get ? AS1M ?

What happens if i manage to open up an AS1M account by this month for example, would i be able to get my calculated interest from April 2014 to September 2014 ?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 4 2014, 06:17 PM)
Thanks for all the help. Just curious, whats the easiest ASX that has a higher chance that i could get ? AS1M ?

What happens if i manage to open up an AS1M account by this month for example, would i be able to get my calculated interest from April 2014 to September 2014 ?
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Yup, higher "chance" of getting AS1M. FYI Non-bumi quota Separated into Chinese, Indian & Others

Yeah, Dividend calculated from April 2014 to September 2014

u can try your luck opening AS1M icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yup, higher "chance" of getting AS1M.  FYI Non-bumi quota Separated into Chinese, Indian & Others

Yeah, Dividend calculated from April 2014 to September 2014

u can try your luck opening AS1M  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yup, I'm aware of the non bumi quota being separated into 3 groups which are Chinese, Indians and Others. Thanks for your help guys.

Want to know the most annoying thing that happened ? Went to Maybank today and the staff immediately said that the quota were full and didn't allow me to try to open any new ASX accounts.
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Want to know the most annoying thing that happened ? Went to Maybank today and the staff immediately said that the quota were full and didn't allow me to try to open any new ASX accounts.
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That's the normal response the staff always give. We need to "beg" & show our sad face (almost crying), then only they would try for us nod.gif
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Amanah Saham Kedah announces 1.0 sen per unit income distribution shakehead.gif
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v7/bu/ne....php?id=1019230

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Try to go every day or week if convenient
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Today bank very crowded, but still worth the waiting.
Got some ASW. Keep trying you will get.
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Today bank very crowded, but still worth the waiting.
Got some ASW. Keep trying you will get.
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Today bank very crowded, but still worth the waiting.
Got some ASW. Keep trying you will get.
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U seems to b a regular investor
How much u manage to get in Feb 2014?
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Maybank, so would i get my interest this coming March or would it only start next year ?
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If not mistaken, u should get dividend in Mar 2014 on pro-rata basis
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Yeah that was what i was thinking off. Thanks.

Im planning to get more units but damn, having to line up and then getting to know that there isn't anything available when its your turn to the counter is sick.
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Today bank very crowded, but still worth the waiting.
Got some ASW. Keep trying you will get.
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Today bank very crowded, but still worth the waiting.
Got some ASW. Keep trying you will get.
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I should really follow you one day and learn from you! My sifu now. Ha.

Impressive! The amount and the frequency!

Bumi or non bumi account? Sorry for asking.

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Today bank very crowded, but still worth the waiting.
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Called ASNB office for some clarification on Amanah Saham. They said if there's certain amount available (example 1k for ASM) & I also ask for 1k, I cannot get the amount, need to 'lower a bit" like 900 or 800 then only can "matched". It's seem there's some kind of "buffer" in the system rclxub.gif

I don't know if the staff is "playing" with me or it's actually true? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 5 2014, 03:43 PM)
Called ASNB office for some clarification on Amanah Saham. They said if there's certain amount available (example 1k for ASM) & I also ask for 1k, I cannot get the amount, need to 'lower a bit" like 900 or 800 then only can "matched". It's seem there's some kind of "buffer" in the system  rclxub.gif

I don't know if the staff is "playing" with me or it's actually true?  hmm.gif
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Is it possible for me to know if there's any units available rather having to go to the bank/agents to check ?

Maybe online ?
Went to Maybank twice and CIMB once today and they didn't have any available units
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 5 2014, 04:10 PM)
Is it possible for me to know if there's any units available rather having to go to the bank/agents to check ?

Maybe online ?
Went to Maybank twice and CIMB once today and they didn't have any available units
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I don't think can try online, because currently all the fixed price fund are sold-out for non-bumi. There's also some notice posted at the bottom of the page (Maybank2u & Cimb Clicks). Only ASB can use online for "top-up" purpose nod.gif

So we need to do by old school way, visit the branch/agents & use passbook cry.gif

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 5 2014, 04:27 PM)
I don't think can try online, because currently all the fixed price fund are sold-out for non-bumi. There's also some notice posted at the bottom of the page (Maybank2u & Cimb Clicks). Only ASB can use online for "top-up" purpose  nod.gif

So we need to do by old school way, visit the branch/agents & use passbook cry.gif
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I checked out CIMBclicks and maybank2u and realized that it stated that we are able to top up or I vestment using their service.

My question now is, if a non bumi sells their units, I could try getting it online right ?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 5 2014, 04:39 PM)
I checked out CIMBclicks and maybank2u and realized that it stated that we are able to top up or I vestment using their service.

My question now is, if a non bumi sells their units, I could try getting it online right ?
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I have checked with a few banks with the internet top up and replies were the same, only for bumi top-up. Non bumi not active as all the units have been taken up.
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I have checked with a few banks with the internet top up and replies were the same, only for bumi top-up. Non bumi not active as all the units have been taken up.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 5 2014, 03:43 PM)
Called ASNB office for some clarification on Amanah Saham. They said if there's certain amount available (example 1k for ASM) & I also ask for 1k, I cannot get the amount, need to 'lower a bit" like 900 or 800 then only can "matched". It's seem there's some kind of "buffer" in the system  rclxub.gif

I don't know if the staff is "playing" with me or it's actually true?  hmm.gif
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When I started joining this ASX forum, I contacted ASNB to ask whether the purchase amount must match EXACTLY the available for sale amount, reply was, the purchase would be successful when the purchase amount was equal to or less than the available amount for sale.

E.g. if available units for sale = RM1500, you put in a purchase for RM1000, you will get it. Same with if the purchase amount is RM10, RM888, RM1499 or RM1500.

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RM100 + RM450 + RM100 + RM50

I noticed that most of the time the staff have to try multiple times before those units start coming in, and when there is unit available within another minutes, other units are coming...just my personal experience so far rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 5 2014, 09:16 PM)
700 for today top-up  icon_rolleyes.gif

RM100 + RM450 + RM100 + RM50

I noticed that most of the time the staff have to try multiple times before those units start coming in, and when there is unit available within another minutes, other units are coming...just my personal experience so far  rolleyes.gif
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When?

I went to ASNB at about 230 pm. KOSONG for me. cry.gif
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 5 2014, 09:16 PM)
700 for today top-up  icon_rolleyes.gif

RM100 + RM450 + RM100 + RM50

I noticed that most of the time the staff have to try multiple times before those units start coming in, and when there is unit available within another minutes, other units are coming...just my personal experience so far  rolleyes.gif
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Which fund u managed to top up?
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lol....i just wonder does it really worth the effort.

1) i risk myself by keeping high cash, and hope to top up at POffice.
2) my petrol and time to and fro PO.

Can anyone tell me the availability of m2u online -> as1m? tq friend =)
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 5 2014, 09:28 PM)
lol....i just wonder does it really worth the effort.

1) i risk myself by keeping high cash, and hope to top up at POffice.
2) my petrol and time to and fro PO.

Can anyone tell me the availability of m2u online -> as1m? tq friend =)
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 5 2014, 04:39 PM)
I checked out CIMBclicks and maybank2u and realized that it stated that we are able to top up or I vestment using their service.

My question now is, if a non bumi sells their units, I could try getting it online right ?
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I have checked with a few banks with the internet top up and replies were the same, only for bumi top-up. Non bumi not active as all the units have been taken up.


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thank you friend =) 1 more question....can i update as1m book at POffice? =)
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thank you friend =) 1 more question....can i update as1m book at POffice? =)
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lol....i just wonder does it really worth the effort.

1) i risk myself by keeping high cash, and hope to top up at POffice.
2) my petrol and time to and fro PO.

Can anyone tell me the availability of m2u online -> as1m? tq friend =)
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Indeed, thats the same issue that I'm facing. Went down 3 times to check today and couldn't get anything!!! They should just launch a new fund and things would be easier thumbup.gif
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Congratulations!

Which one?

When?

I went to ASNB at about 230 pm. KOSONG for me.  cry.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 5 2014, 09:23 PM)
Which fund u managed to top up?
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Sorry, forgot to mention..I only have ASM account atm, can't wait to have AS1M and ASW account so that I can maximize my chances to top-up~hahaha...just wondering will the staff fed up for trying multiple accounts for me later tongue.gif

Normally I go after 3.30pm because the queue is rather short, normally within 10 queue numbers...

The staff told me I can "rehat" for some days from 15th March onwards because PNB will shut down the transaction for ASM to calculate dividend, is that so?

PS : Yesterday, I saw there is a notice that the system is down for JPJ,Insurance & Astro bill @ post office...so maybe lesser ppl will queue up there? Happy hunting thumbup.gif
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Indeed, thats the same issue that I'm facing. Went down 3 times to check today and couldn't get anything!!! They should just launch a new fund and things would be easier thumbup.gif
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The staff told me I can "rehat" for some days from 15th March onwards because PNB will shut down the transaction for ASM to calculate dividend, is that so?

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They have yet to announce the date for temporary suspension to facilitate calculation of dividend
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 5 2014, 07:04 PM)
When I started joining this ASX forum, I contacted ASNB to ask whether the purchase amount must match EXACTLY the available for sale amount, reply was, the purchase would be successful when the purchase amount was equal to or less than the available amount for sale.

E.g. if available units for sale = RM1500, you put in a purchase for RM1000, you will get it. Same with if the purchase amount is RM10, RM888, RM1499 or RM1500.

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Thanks for the clarification, I really appreciate it notworthy.gif Now I know the staff is just "fooling" with me & making me dumb mad.gif


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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 5 2014, 09:16 PM)
I noticed that most of the time the staff have to try multiple times before those units start coming in, and when there is unit available within another minutes, other units are coming...just my personal experience so far  rolleyes.gif
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No such thing happen for me cry.gif try few time also failed to get any. If try once & got it, next few time try confirm no units available sad.gif So it's depend on luck & units availability nod.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 5 2014, 07:04 PM)
When I started joining this ASX forum, I contacted ASNB to ask whether the purchase amount must match EXACTLY the available for sale amount, reply was, the purchase would be successful when the purchase amount was equal to or less than the available amount for sale.

E.g. if available units for sale = RM1500, you put in a purchase for RM1000, you will get it. Same with if the purchase amount is RM10, RM888, RM1499 or RM1500.

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this has been discussed extensively in the past threads
especially the v1
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this has been discussed extensively in the past threads
especially the v1
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Any tips for us? Ha.

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plumberly Any luck today brows.gif

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plumberly Any luck today  brows.gif
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Hi, how do you know that I went today? Ha.

Another BIG KOSONG for me today.

And you?

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Hi, how do you know that I went today? Ha.

Another BIG KOSONG for me today.

And you?

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Hi, how do you know that I went today? Ha.

Another BIG KOSONG for me today.

And you?

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I didn't try today...
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Salute the dedication  smile.gif
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Ha ha. Thanks.

Have to get my money to work harder for me mah.

But I have to keep in mind that there is a breakpoint where it will cost me more (petrol, parking ticket, etc) than trying to beat the FD rate.

So far, I am still on the winning side.

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They have yet to announce the date for temporary suspension to facilitate calculation of dividend
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I saw a notice in post office today, stated that ASM transaction will be temporary unavailable from 23th March onwards until 31st March. Transaction will resume on 1st April

QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 6 2014, 12:42 PM)
No such thing happen for me  cry.gif  try few time also failed to get any. If try once & got it, next few time try confirm no units available  sad.gif  So it's depend on luck & units availability  nod.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I see~normally how many passbook you bring for top-up? You have ASM & ASW,right?

QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 6 2014, 06:42 PM)
Ha ha. Thanks.

Have to get my money to work harder for me mah.

But I have to keep in mind that there is a breakpoint where it will cost me more (petrol, parking ticket, etc) than trying to beat the FD rate.

So far, I am still on the winning side.

Cheerio.
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I saw a notice in post office today, stated that ASM transaction will be temporary unavailable from 23th March onwards until 31st March. Transaction will resume on 1st April

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Great... Awaiting 7% dividend announcement for ASM

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I see~normally how many passbook you bring for top-up? You have ASM & ASW,right?

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don't forget AS1M. All three I bring because not everyday I go try, Only when I got time & mood sweat.gif

u got any ASM units today? hmm.gif
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Great... Awaiting 7% dividend announcement for ASM
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wah, u so confident on the 7% dividend notworthy.gif Just hope it come true rclxms.gif
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wah, u so confident on the 7% dividend notworthy.gif  Just hope it come true  rclxms.gif
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EPF able to give xtra 0.20%
I c no reason y ASM can't give xtra 0.20% to 7%
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 6 2014, 10:51 PM)
EPF able to give xtra 0.20%
I c no reason y ASM can't give xtra 0.20% to 7%
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don't forget AS1M. All three I bring because not everyday I go try, Only when I got time & mood  sweat.gif

u got any ASM units today? hmm.gif
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Nope, the staff already told me there was 4 ppl trying yesterday and none of them got it...so in the end, I am the fifth sweat.gif

Will try again later if I have time laugh.gif
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 7 2014, 01:07 PM)
Nope, the staff already told me there was 4 ppl trying yesterday and none of them got it...so in the end, I am the fifth  sweat.gif

Will try again later if I have time  laugh.gif
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Looks like you're not alone "trying" at the branch. I can bet the staff didn't even try for u because I also kena once when there's one couple trying just before me. When my turn came, the bloody staff didn't even check, straightaway said no units available vmad.gif Almost got into "fight", screaming to the bloody staff flex.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 7 2014, 02:51 PM)
Looks like you're not alone "trying" at the branch. I can bet the staff didn't even try for u because I also kena once when there's one couple trying just before me. When my turn came, the bloody staff didn't even check, straightaway said no units available  vmad.gif  Almost got into "fight", screaming to the bloody staff  flex.gif
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I think I am lucky here. Out of the many trips I have made for the ASX, I have only seen 2 Chinese trying their luck for the ASX.

Boss, next time just show the unhelpful staff your IMPRESSIVE/CANTIK/LISTEN TO ME tatoo!

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 7 2014, 03:11 PM)
I think I am lucky here. Out of the many trips I have made for the ASX, I have only seen 2 Chinese trying their luck for the ASX.

Boss, next time just show the unhelpful staff your IMPRESSIVE/CANTIK/LISTEN TO ME tatoo!

Petronas Towers Boleh! Malaysia Boleh!
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That incident happen only once to me. Since then, when ever I see people holding Red, Gold or Yellow passbook with ASNB deposit slip, I walk-away from the branch blush.gif


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AMB pushing to sell Dana Aqeel fund

Amanah Mutual Bhd (AMB) aims to sell between RM400 million and RM500 million worth of units in its Shariah compliant Dana Aqeel (capital protected) fund (DAQ) following the success of the first issue.

DAQ2 is a close-ended fund with a maturity period of three years will end on April 21, 2017, and unit holders holding the units to maturity will enjoy 100% capital protection.

DAQ2, which is opened for subscription for 45 days from yesterday until April 19, 2014, offers two classes, the first being Class MYR where units will be offered at RM0.50 per unit while the second is Class SGD where units are S$0.50 (RM1.29) per unit AMB plans to invest at least 85% of DAQ2 net asset value into sukuk and Shariah-compliant money market instruments, 13% in Shariah-compliant equit ies and 2% in Shariah-compliant deposits.

http://www.ambmutual.com.my/ambdaq2.htm


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AMB pushing to sell Dana Aqeel fund

Amanah Mutual Bhd (AMB) aims to sell between RM400 million and RM500 million worth of units in its Shariah compliant Dana Aqeel (capital protected) fund (DAQ) following the success of the first issue.

DAQ2 is a close-ended fund with a maturity period of three years will end on April 21, 2017, and unit holders holding the units to maturity will enjoy 100% capital protection.

DAQ2, which is opened for subscription for 45 days from yesterday until April 19, 2014, offers two classes, the first being Class MYR where units will be offered at RM0.50 per unit while the second is Class SGD where units are S$0.50 (RM1.29) per unit AMB plans to invest at least 85% of DAQ2 net asset value into sukuk and Shariah-compliant money market instruments, 13% in Shariah-compliant equit ies and 2% in Shariah-compliant deposits.

http://www.ambmutual.com.my/ambdaq2.htm
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Thanks.

Went through the web site looking for the return of this fund. Can't find it. Do you know what is the expected return?

Cheerio.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 7 2014, 04:12 PM)
Thanks.

Went through the web site looking for the return of this fund. Can't find it. Do you know what is the expected return?

Cheerio.
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According to news report, The CEO expect more than 13% cumulative return for this second series. The 1st one yielded a total cumulative return of 11.98% to investors.

http://themalaysianreserve.com/main/news/c...dana-aqeel-fund

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 7 2014, 04:30 PM)
According to news report,  The CEO expect more than 13% cumulative return for this second series. The 1st one yielded a total cumulative return of 11.98% to investors.

http://themalaysianreserve.com/main/news/c...dana-aqeel-fund
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If I read it correctly, it means 11.98/3 = 4% average pa.

My aim is higher than 4%.

Thanks for the update.
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EPF able to give xtra 0.20%
I c no reason y ASM can't give xtra 0.20% to 7%
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I thought ASM last year gave 6.50% only?

hmm.gif need to double check myself again..
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 7 2014, 04:45 PM)
If I read it correctly, it means 11.98/3 = 4% average pa.

My aim is higher than 4%.

Thanks for the update.
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I think so, because the fund only for 3years hmm.gif

If your aim higher than 4%, I think ASG should be good investment. The only thing it's variable price fund nod.gif
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Mar 7 2014, 04:46 PM)
I thought ASM last year gave 6.50% only?

hmm.gif need to double check myself again..
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it's 6.5+0.3 nod.gif

0.3sen is "special income distribution" @ "bait" for u know what in May 2013 whistling.gif
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I thought ASM last year gave 6.50% only?

hmm.gif need to double check myself again..
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6.5% + 0.3% bonus = 6.8%
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ASM & ASG Suspension of transactions: 23 to 31 March 2014
http://www.asnb.com.my/poster_penangguhan/...20ASG%20Eng.pdf
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 7 2014, 08:50 PM)
ASM & ASG Suspension of transactions: 23 to 31 March 2014
http://www.asnb.com.my/poster_penangguhan/...20ASG%20Eng.pdf
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So 1st April onwards can try "luck" in ASM units
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So 1st April onwards can try "luck" in ASM units
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Chance to top up is gud
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 7 2014, 04:45 PM)
If I read it correctly, it means 11.98/3 = 4% average pa.

My aim is higher than 4%.

Thanks for the update.
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Some calculation for sharing:

To be more precise, if cumulative returns of 11.98% for 3 years, the annualized returns is 3.84% p.a. (rounded to 2 d.p.), i.e. 3.84%p.a. compounded for 3 years, you will get cumulative 11.98% returns. icon_rolleyes.gif

You can get these kind of ROI calculation with Excel formula with the above example : "=RATE(3,0,-100,111.98,0)"

4% compounded 3 years will give you 12.49% cumulative returns.

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QUOTE(tbheng @ Mar 7 2014, 11:35 PM)
Some calculation for sharing:

To be more precise, if cumulative returns of 11.98% for 3 years, the annualized returns is 3.84% p.a. (rounded to 2 d.p.), i.e. 3.84%p.a. compounded for 3 years, you will get cumulative 11.98% returns.  icon_rolleyes.gif

You can get these kind of ROI calculation with Excel formula with the above example : "=RATE(3,0,-100,111.98,0)"

4% compounded 3 years will give you 12.49% cumulative returns.
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Thanks.

Note that I used "average" and not "compound" in my 4%. I do know the difference between average and compound.

Cheerio.

P/S Another one for those who do not know this yet, try logest( ) function in Excel. Very useful tool to estimate the rate of change especially for data with big data range.
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Chance to top up is gud
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Due to my poor planning, not much bullets available for this hunting (tied up in FDs).

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it's 6.5+0.3  nod.gif

0.3sen is "special income distribution" @ "bait" for u know what in May 2013  whistling.gif
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Bolded part blur. Haha!

Didn't notice the May portion..
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Due to my poor planning, not much bullets available for this hunting (tied up in FDs).

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U need to make calculative decision whether to withdraw or not
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U need to make calculative decision whether to withdraw or not
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Good point. The one with the "oldest" maturing date can be considered but I will loose out on some $$.

If I could get 1/3 of this FD amount into ASM, then I will break even with my earlier FD termination.

Think, think, think, ....

Thanks for the pointer.

Cheerio.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 8 2014, 11:42 AM)
Good point. The one with the "oldest" maturing date can be considered but I will loose out on some $$.

If I could get 1/3 of this FD amount into ASM, then I will break even with my earlier FD termination.

Think, think, think, ....

Thanks for the pointer.

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If u can spend whole day @ ASNB, chances to top up is almost 100% (depend on quantum)
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 8 2014, 11:50 AM)
If u can spend whole day @ ASNB, chances to top up is almost 100% (depend on quantum)
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OK, let me think it over this w/end and then decide on Monday.

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Bumi or non bumi account?

I think I tried my luck on the 6 Mar and got a 0!

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 9 2014, 12:43 PM)
Nampak sangat bumi account  whistling.gif
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but of koz it is.


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 9 2014, 12:45 PM)
but of koz it is.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 9 2014, 12:43 PM)
Nampak sangat bumi account  whistling.gif
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Obviously lorh..
some-more government introduce ASB2, where is non-Muslim and other races funds doh.gif


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QUOTE(adolph @ Mar 9 2014, 03:13 PM)
Obviously lorh..
some-more government introduce ASB2, where is non-Muslim and other races funds doh.gif
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Actually if u look closely, the ASB2 scheme is to "help" those who already max their ASB. Others reason is just BS only nod.gif

Not sure if there's would be any new "Malaysian" fund this year. Only Jibby knows rolleyes.gif
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At 1 Apri,l got change to open new account in ASM?
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QUOTE(chrono7 @ Mar 9 2014, 03:40 PM)
At 1 Apri,l got change to open new account in ASM?
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u can try your luck on that day. It's all depend on the staff willingness on helping u open the new account nod.gif
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Penangguhan urus niaga bagi ASM & ASG: 23 hingga 31 Mac 2014 untuk tujuan pengiraan pengagihan pendapatan bagi tahun kewangan berakhir 31 Mac 2014.
Pembukaan semula urus niaga pada 1 April 2014


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Kemasikini buku pelaburan oleh pihak ketiga
http://www.asnb.com.my/notispenting/BM/Not...an%20latest.pdf
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QUOTE(Sarah Jessica @ Mar 9 2014, 03:56 PM)
Penangguhan urus niaga bagi ASM & ASG: 23 hingga 31 Mac 2014 untuk tujuan pengiraan pengagihan pendapatan bagi tahun kewangan berakhir 31 Mac 2014.
Pembukaan semula urus niaga pada 1 April 2014

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QUOTE(Sarah Jessica @ Mar 9 2014, 03:57 PM)
Kemasikini buku pelaburan oleh pihak ketiga
http://www.asnb.com.my/notispenting/BM/Not...an%20latest.pdf
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Those Information already posted previously. Please read previous page icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 9 2014, 03:25 PM)
Actually if u look closely, the ASB2 scheme is to "help" those who already max their ASB. Others reason is just BS only  nod.gif

Not sure if there's would be any new "Malaysian" fund this year. Only Jibby knows  rolleyes.gif
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max out,
Ya lor. then how about the leftover that get nothings.
We also max out, then don't see any funds also.
1 Malaysia but all bumi is eligible, then chinese and indian that leftover but no more limits. cry.gif
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QUOTE(adolph @ Mar 9 2014, 04:14 PM)
max out,
Ya lor. then how about the leftover that get nothings.
We also max out, then don't see any funds also.
1 Malaysia but all bumi is eligible, then chinese and indian that leftover but no more limits.  cry.gif
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ASB fund size no limit, individual got 200k cap for initial investment (ex-divvy).

New fund depend on PNB & also Jibby. If he wants new fund, then we'll get one nod.gif


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QUOTE(adolph @ Mar 9 2014, 03:13 PM)
Obviously lorh..
some-more government introduce ASB2, where is non-Muslim and other races funds doh.gif
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non muslim are eligible, if they are categroized as bumiputra - we have iban christian, pagan / atheis melanau and many more varities
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 9 2014, 04:30 PM)
ASB fund size no limit, individual got 200k cap for initial investment (ex-divvy).

New fund depend on PNB & also Jibby. If he wants new fund, then we'll get one  nod.gif
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you also know how to say, no limits and everyone capped at 200k.
which mean every bumi or muslim convert, native origin, every babies born.
they all no worry about funds lorh since it capped 200k.

wait jibby ah, now he busy protecting his MAS.
later at the end, sure say it not their fault and gave excuses again lor.
let see MAS stocks performance in next week! brows.gif

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 9 2014, 05:46 PM)
non muslim are eligible, if they are categroized as bumiputra - we have iban christian, pagan / atheis melanau and many more varities
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in simple word Sabah & Sarawak Bumiputeras (most peninsular people always say that as we can't remember all the race group there) icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 9 2014, 05:46 PM)
non muslim are eligible, if they are categroized as bumiputra - we have iban christian, pagan / atheis melanau and many more varities
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we called it minority, which mean the origin of sabah and sarawak.
that one i know, that why i say where is Chinese and Indian in the replied.
quota given and races are imposed. the history did told how many percentage and population in
Malaysia but how many fixed funds available.
that's 1 Malaysia lor.

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 9 2014, 05:52 PM)
in simple word Sabah & Sarawak Bumiputeras (most peninsular people always say that as we can't remember all the race group there)  icon_rolleyes.gif
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don't forget orang asli (in pahang), serani (melaka) are also eligible regardless of their religious view


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QUOTE(adolph @ Mar 9 2014, 05:48 PM)
you also know how to say, no limits and everyone capped at 200k.
which mean every bumi or muslim convert, native origin, every babies born.
they all no worry about funds lorh since it capped 200k.

wait jibby ah, now he busy protecting his MAS.
later at the end, sure say it not their fault and gave excuses again lor.
let see MAS stocks performance in next week!  brows.gif
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yup, no worries. got 200k "guarantee" (which mostly cannot reach because lack of fund, high cost of living etc.). u can see 2012 report, those holding less than 5k & 10k is the majority of the total unit holders nod.gif

a lot of people talking MAS "limit-down" tomorrow drool.gif
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QUOTE(adolph @ Mar 9 2014, 05:52 PM)
we called it minority, which mean the origin of sabah and sarawak.
that one i know, that why i say where is Chinese and Indian in the replied.
quota given and races are imposed. the history did told how many percentage and population in
Malaysia but how many fixed funds available.
that's 1 Malaysia lor.
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u got the definition of minority wrong

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S2  Siapa golongan minoriti?


Golongan minoriti adalah satu golongan yang telah mendapat kebenaran khas dari Perdana Menteri untuk melabur dalam semua unit amanah yang diuruskan oleh ASNB iaitu:

    Siam
    Portugis / Eurasian / Serani
    Mualaf / Beragama Islam tetapi bukan Bumiputera

Nota : Golongan ini mendapat kebenaran melabur dalam semua skim ASNB kecuali bagi skim yang mempunyai pecahan Bumiputera dan bukan Bumiputera (skim ASW 2020) ianya dikategorikan sebagai Bukan Bumiputera.
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apparently, AS1Malaysia is opened to all races, and no quota based

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Unit Amanah ASNB boleh dilanggan oleh semua warganegara Malaysia namun bagi skim berikut hanya golongan Bumiputera sahaja boleh melabur dalam skim berikut :-

    Skim Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB)
    Sekim Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN)
    Skim Amanah Saham Didik (ASD)
    Skim Amanah Saham Nasional 2 (ASN 2)
    Skim Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 (ASW 2020) – 51% Bumiputera dan 49% Bukan Bumiputera

Berdasarkan Surat Ikatan Amanah seorang bumiputera adalah seperti yang tertulis di dalam Perlembagaan Malaysia iaitu Melayu, Bumiputera Sabah & Sarawak dan Orang Asli.
notice the AS1M is missing from the bumiputra limited / only funds

http://www.asnb.com.my/eligibility.htm

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 9 2014, 06:01 PM)
apparently, AS1Malaysia is opened to all races, and no quota based
notice the AS1M is missing from the bumiputra limited / only funds

http://www.asnb.com.my/eligibility.htm
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whatever la boss,
the subscription still remain low. you check the financial year already know eh.
how many of us, in malaysia especially chinese.
you know the answer.

bad ways to say, they focused on bumiputera, and covert islam only. if so, why need count chinese convert islam can straight away apply eh.
they don't gave much priority to chinese and indian.
the reason they open this ASNB is to help them.

Kami adalah organisasi pelaburan ulung yang komited untuk meningkatkan kekayaan ekonomi masyarakat Bumiputera khususnya dan menyumbang ke arah pertumbuhan dan kemakmuran negara bagi faedah rakyat Malaysia.

http://www.asnb.com.my/about.htm

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 9 2014, 05:57 PM)
yup, no worries. got 200k "guarantee" (which mostly cannot reach because lack of fund, high cost of living etc.). u can see 2012 report, those holding less than 5k & 10k is the majority of the total unit holders  nod.gif

a lot of people talking MAS "limit-down" tomorrow  drool.gif
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let see in stocks forum brows.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(adolph @ Mar 9 2014, 05:48 PM)
you also know how to say, no limits and everyone capped at 200k.
which mean every bumi or muslim convert, native origin, every babies born.
they all no worry about funds lorh since it capped 200k.

wait jibby ah, now he busy protecting his MAS.
later at the end, sure say it not their fault and gave excuses again lor.
let see MAS stocks performance in next week!  brows.gif
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No point if c performance with no action
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 9 2014, 05:57 PM)
a lot of people talking MAS "limit-down" tomorrow  drool.gif
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Impossible coz it's not mayday
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 9 2014, 06:19 PM)
Impossible coz it's not mayday
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but for sure tomorrow price would drop a bit because of the "negative" news nod.gif
maybe dropped to 15 - 20c range tomorrow? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 9 2014, 06:28 PM)
but for sure tomorrow price would drop a bit because of the "negative" news  nod.gif 
maybe dropped to 15 - 20c range tomorrow?  hmm.gif
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Lets wait n c
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 9 2014, 06:01 PM)
apparently, AS1Malaysia is opened to all races, and no quota based
notice the AS1M is missing from the bumiputra limited / only funds

http://www.asnb.com.my/eligibility.htm
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What I know AS1M got quota (50% Bumi, 30% Chinese, 15% Indian & 5% Others) nod.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 9 2014, 06:18 PM)
No point if c performance with no action
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I don't buy airlines stock, for me it volatile.
I only focus the company on brands and dividends eh.
I just want to see how MAS react to world later on. brows.gif
I'm so bad eh!


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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 9 2014, 06:52 PM)
What I know AS1M got quota (50% Bumi, 30% Chinese, 15% Indian & 5% Others)  nod.gif  rclxub.gif
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ASB Annual Report 2013
http://www.asnb.com.my/annualreport/2014_A...rt_140224_g.pdf

5.9mil Unitholders have only 5k & below which is 71.4% of total ASB unitholders

The fund size is 127Billion units
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QUOTE(Sarah Jessica @ Mar 9 2014, 11:40 PM)
ASB Annual Report 2013
http://www.asnb.com.my/annualreport/2014_A...rt_140224_g.pdf

5.9mil Unitholders have only 5k & below which is 71.4% of total ASB unitholders

The fund size is 127Billion units
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How many unit holders hold > 200k units?
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 10 2014, 08:45 AM)
How many unit holders hold > 200k units?
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There is no category for 200k and above. There is a category for 500k and above, more than 14000 account holder with higher than 500k
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Mar 10 2014, 08:54 AM)
There is no category for 200k and above. There is a category for 500k and above, more than 14000 account holder with higher than 500k
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Most likely dis 14k holders will subscribe ASB2
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Got 100+100+400 for my ASM this afternoon.

Small amount but still better than nothing.

Cheerio.

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Hi guys, would like to ask a question regarding ASB. I read somewhere that dividend reinvested after 200k will increase your unit limit?

Meaning let say after reinvesting dividend I have 250k, I take out 50k for house down payment. I can continue to put in money until I hit 250k limit? Just need to confirm this.
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QUOTE(timw90 @ Mar 10 2014, 02:27 PM)
Hi guys, would like to ask a question regarding ASB. I read somewhere that  dividend reinvested after 200k will increase your unit limit?

Meaning let say after reinvesting dividend I have 250k, I take out 50k for house down payment. I can continue to put in money until I hit 250k limit? Just need to confirm this.
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yes, you may

i have explained it previously. your basket size grows to accomodate your dividend. and if you take the money out, your basket size will remain. that's an analogy.
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 10 2014, 02:43 PM)
yes, you may

i have explained it previously. your basket size grows to accomodate your dividend. and if you take the money out, your basket size will remain. that's an analogy.
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Alright. Thank you for the verification. I remember reading somewhere on this thread but I cant seem to find it back. Sorry for repeating the question.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 10 2014, 02:07 PM)
Can sense that luck is coming my way now.

Got 100+100+400 for my ASM this afternoon.

Small amount but still better than nothing.

Cheerio.
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Not bad rclxms.gif I just hope when I try next time, got some units left for me to buy sweat.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 10 2014, 02:07 PM)
Can sense that luck is coming my way now.

Got 100+100+400 for my ASM this afternoon.

Small amount but still better than nothing.

Cheerio.
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Congrats...
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 10 2014, 02:07 PM)
Can sense that luck is coming my way now.

Got 100+100+400 for my ASM this afternoon.

Small amount but still better than nothing.

Cheerio.
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Congrats~I am on leave today, will try my luck tomorrow rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 10 2014, 05:45 PM)
Congrats~I am on leave today, will try my luck tomorrow rclxm9.gif
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Good luck bro rclxms.gif u have this week & next week only rolleyes.gif
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I tried getting some today and sadly couldn't lol.
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I tried getting some today and sadly couldn't lol.
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Like to learn from those who have tried purchasing the available units during the past dividend periods (non bumi units).

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I know there is no unique pattern but what was the general pattern we have seen in the past.

E.g. if it is C, then no point in me going on the first day.

Thanks.

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 11 2014, 09:05 AM)
Like to learn from those who have tried purchasing the available units during the past dividend periods (non bumi units).

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I know there is no unique pattern but what was the general pattern we have seen in the past.

E.g. if it is C, then no point in me going on the first day.

Thanks.
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should be D. LOL


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Guys, need your help about amanah saham wawasan 2020.
Read on PNBs website that the allocation for this fund is 51% for bumis and 49% for non-bumis.

My question now is, is this 49% of non bumi further broken down to let's say maybe 30% Chinese, 10% Indians an others ?

Because if its only stated as 49% for non-bumis as a total without breaking it down future into class sizes, then we non-bumis should have a higher chance to top up our units on a daily basis rather than having a limitation of just 15% or stuffs like that.
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 11 2014, 09:30 AM)
Guys, need your help about amanah saham wawasan 2020.
Read on PNBs website that the allocation for this fund is 51% for bumis and 49% for non-bumis.

My question now is, is this 49% of non bumi further broken down to let's say maybe 30% Chinese, 10% Indians an others ?

Because if its only stated as 49% for non-bumis as a total without breaking it down future into class sizes, then we non-bumis should have a higher chance to top up our units on a daily basis rather than having a limitation of just 15% or stuffs like that.
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Based on my understanding, no further breakdown for 49%
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 11 2014, 09:50 AM)
Based on my understanding, no further breakdown for 49%
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So I guess my chance to open an account under that find should be easier.
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 11 2014, 10:00 AM)
So I guess my chance to open an account under that find should be easier.
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Suggest u try to open a/c on 1st Sep
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 11 2014, 10:30 AM)
Suggest u try to open a/c on 1st Sep
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Have you purchase any variable price funds ?
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Have you purchase any variable price funds ?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 11 2014, 09:30 AM)
Guys, need your help about amanah saham wawasan 2020.
Read on PNBs website that the allocation for this fund is 51% for bumis and 49% for non-bumis.

My question now is, is this 49% of non bumi further broken down to let's say maybe 30% Chinese, 10% Indians an others ?

Because if its only stated as 49% for non-bumis as a total without breaking it down future into class sizes, then we non-bumis should have a higher chance to top up our units on a daily basis rather than having a limitation of just 15% or stuffs like that.
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 11 2014, 10:00 AM)
So I guess my chance to open an account under that find should be easier.
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Higher allocation (49%) with way higher "competition" from all non-bumis compare with 15% Allocation (Indians Only) rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 11 2014, 09:05 AM)
Like to learn from those who have tried purchasing the available units during the past dividend periods (non bumi units).

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I know there is no unique pattern but what was the general pattern we have seen in the past.

E.g. if it is C, then no point in me going on the first day.

Thanks.
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I think most likely D hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 11 2014, 09:21 AM)
should be D. LOL
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 11 2014, 12:35 PM)
I think most likely D  hmm.gif
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Thanks for the feedback.

I was hoping for A.

Then again, D is still OK and I will aim for the 4-5 peaks in there. Just kidding.

Cheerio.

P/S I guess after 1-2 weeks, the dividend sale will be all over. Then back to the normal s l o w fishing.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 11 2014, 12:42 PM)
Thanks for the feedback.

I was hoping for A.

Then again, D is still OK and I will aim for the 4-5 peaks in there. Just kidding.

Cheerio.

P/S I guess after 1-2 weeks, the dividend sale will be all over. Then back to the normal  s  l  o  w    fishing.
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Just back from post office...the staff told me I just missed the RM400 because there was another customer before me managed to top-up... sad.gif

even worse, the staff only tried one round for me...400,300,200,100,50...tak ada la boss cry.gif
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Just back from post office...the staff told me I just missed the RM400 because there was another customer before me managed to top-up... sad.gif

even worse, the staff only tried one round for me...400,300,200,100,50...tak ada la boss  cry.gif
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some silent reader here already managed to find the branch u always "try" brows.gif

anyway just don't give up trying. No worries. Tomorrow u try again icon_rolleyes.gif
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please read the link given? there's no such category. even non-asb scheme don't have such range. 500k & above is the standard
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Just try to figure out indicative unit holders hold > 200k units
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None interested in ASG? Everyone invested in fixed price fund only? hmm.gif
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. . . for security reason, we cannot disclose that. Ha.



In layman's language, no, I did not try after my RM600 strike. Give all the staff I have troubled in the past a break lah.

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Following what I heard a lot lately,

. . . for security reason, we cannot disclose that. Ha.
In layman's language, no, I did not try after my RM600 strike. Give all the staff I have troubled in the past a break lah.

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May open ASG a/c dis week

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Hi mates~just back from PM!!

RM400 + RM450 + RM100 + RM400 = RM1350

the malay lady really is my lucky angel rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Hi mates~just back from PM!!

RM400 + RM450 + RM100 + RM400 = RM1350

the malay lady really is my lucky angel  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Which ASX?
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Tried to top up my account and couldn't sadly.
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Tried to top up my account and couldn't sadly.
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Managed to top up my account during lunch.
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I went after lunch as well but the bank lady told me the ASNB system was not available/running.

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I went after lunch as well but the bank lady told me the ASNB system was not available/running.

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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 12 2014, 10:17 AM)
Hi mates~just back from PM!!

RM400 + RM450 + RM100 + RM400 = RM1350

the malay lady really is my lucky angel  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Congrats bro, It's your luck today rclxms.gif ASM right? rolleyes.gif
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Managed to top up my account during lunch.
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I went after lunch as well but the bank lady told me the ASNB system was not available/running.

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Once I ask2 so much question to the CS staff until she "crack" & told me the truth sweat.gif
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Just back from second trip, no luck even though the staff tried multiple times from 450.00 to 50.00 cool2.gif

Yeah, I only have ASM atm~hehe

Bank they focus on queue time, if dragged too long for a customer, their branch KPI drop and affect performance~ tongue.gif
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I'm doing my internship in a company that's beside maybank and Cimb haha
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Banks always "fake" system down. Normally they do this because the staff took "extra" lunch time  doh.gif
Once I ask2 so much question to the CS staff until she "crack" & told me the truth  sweat.gif
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Thanks.

The lady who told me was not the one covering the ASNB customers (I went to the side to pick up some ASNB forms to prepare for the coming ASM dividend fire sale! Ha). Maybe the ASNB counter staff was not at the counter then (like you said, "away"? Ha.

Why do they lie on things like this?

One thought came to mind some weeks ago. Some staff will minimise the strike rate to discourage people from coming back. If place X has high strike rate, then many people will be frequent customers trying their luck. So, to lighten their work load, just try all the things mentioned in this thread (system down, try once only etc) to discourage return customers.

If they could do a data check/survey, they will find some banks and some counters with unusually low strike rates while some will have unusually high strikes (> 2 * standard deviation statistically speaking). There are indeed some good staff helping their customers.

My 3 cents.

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You sure have a $ angel helping you! Ha.

It was a very disappointing and frustrating day for me today. Thought it was a good idea to do a few things (7 of them) in one go when I went to town but it back fired on me.  vmad.gif

1. Went to a bank after lunch but it was not open until 1:45 pm for the Friday prayer. So waited for about 30 mins there. Second surprise was they did not have enough RM50s for my FD withdrawal (now don't jump the gun, not a lot lah, only XX,000). Waited for another 30 mins for them to sort this out.

2. Went to another bank to withdraw and the bank was packed. Did not bring my Priority Banking card but managed to jump queue after talking to the officer there.  rclxm9.gif

3. Went to a bank to try my luck on the ASX. After my number was called, went to the counter and the teller told me to find a seat and wait. He called me back after some 3 mins only to tell me that no units were available. Don't really know whether he checked or not. One MB staff is considerate enough to show me the screen when he checked for units. Others do it behind "curtains". Ha.  hmm.gif

4. Got a parking fine on my return form the bank. I was only 5 mins past my ticket time! Now I will have to pay for the fine! Adding salt to my injury!  rclxub.gif

Learning for me is to avoid going to the banks on Fri (too many people and especially so being at the end of the month). And avoid doing too many things in one trip to town!

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Don't you love this guy.. priority banking lah, XX,000 not a lot lah.. didn't mention your Bentley got parking fine? smile.gif
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Thanks.

The lady who told me was not the one covering the ASNB customers (I went to the side to pick up some ASNB forms to prepare for the coming ASM dividend fire sale! Ha). Maybe the ASNB counter staff was not at the counter then (like you said, "away"? Ha.

Why do they lie on things like this?

One thought came to mind some weeks ago. Some staff will minimise the strike rate to discourage people from coming back. If place X has high strike rate, then many people will be frequent customers trying their luck. So, to lighten their work load, just try all the things mentioned in this thread (system down, try once only etc) to discourage return customers.

If they could do a data check/survey, they will find some banks and some counters with unusually low strike rates while some will have unusually high strikes (> 2 * standard deviation statistically speaking). There are indeed some good staff helping their customers.

My 3 cents.

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The CS staff that I told u is where all the forms are located (side of the bank).

wah u think too deep... I didn't even tot the staff can do these kind of thing. Minimize strike rate to discourage people from coming back vmad.gif mad.gif No wonder sometimes the staff straightaway said to me "try" once only. No reduce2 the amount doh.gif . when give another passbook (different ASx) her face change (like angry + "fed-up + Menyampah+ get out from my face) looks shakehead.gif
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Don't you love this guy.. priority banking lah, XX,000 not a lot lah.. didn't mention your Bentley got parking fine? smile.gif
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 12 2014, 04:29 PM)
Don't you love this guy.. priority banking lah, XX,000 not a lot lah.. didn't mention your Bentley got parking fine? smile.gif
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For the record, I am still driving my 10+ yrs old Wira lah.

XX,000 is really not a lot considering the cost of living now. Who knows, that could be my life saving?

You are entitled to your opinion on what you see or read but please respect others and not hastily jump to your conclusion.

QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 12 2014, 04:44 PM)
if Bentley in Public Parking, already missing long before parking fine  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Feb 28 2014, 11:03 PM)
You sure have a $ angel helping you! Ha.

It was a very disappointing and frustrating day for me today. Thought it was a good idea to do a few things (7 of them) in one go when I went to town but it back fired on me.  vmad.gif

1. Went to a bank after lunch but it was not open until 1:45 pm for the Friday prayer. So waited for about 30 mins there. Second surprise was they did not have enough RM50s for my FD withdrawal (now don't jump the gun, not a lot lah, only XX,000). Waited for another 30 mins for them to sort this out.

2. Went to another bank to withdraw and the bank was packed. Did not bring my Priority Banking card but managed to jump queue after talking to the officer there.  rclxm9.gif

3. Went to a bank to try my luck on the ASX. After my number was called, went to the counter and the teller told me to find a seat and wait. He called me back after some 3 mins only to tell me that no units were available. Don't really know whether he checked or not. One MB staff is considerate enough to show me the screen when he checked for units. Others do it behind "curtains". Ha.  hmm.gif

4. Got a parking fine on my return form the bank. I was only 5 mins past my ticket time! Now I will have to pay for the fine! Adding salt to my injury!  rclxub.gif

Learning for me is to avoid going to the banks on Fri (too many people and especially so being at the end of the month). And avoid doing too many things in one trip to town!

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i think u forgot another X. should be XXX,000 tongue.gif

orang kaya with priority banking. StanChart?
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i think u forgot another X. should be XXX,000 tongue.gif

orang kaya with priority banking. StanChart?
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Ha ha, if XXX,000 then 2 conclusions

- yes orang kaya then
- but also stupid carrying xxx,000 cash!

Now I regret mentioning this. Maybe I was so angry, airing my frustration on that day with so many things not going my way.

Saw so many threads especially in the FD forum about 50K, 100K, 250k, etc etc.

OK, will be more careful in what I put in here now though I don't have much to show off anyway. Still driving my 10+ yrs old Wira.

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Thanks.

The lady who told me was not the one covering the ASNB customers (I went to the side to pick up some ASNB forms to prepare for the coming ASM dividend fire sale! Ha). Maybe the ASNB counter staff was not at the counter then (like you said, "away"? Ha.

Why do they lie on things like this?

One thought came to mind some weeks ago. Some staff will minimise the strike rate to discourage people from coming back. If place X has high strike rate, then many people will be frequent customers trying their luck. So, to lighten their work load, just try all the things mentioned in this thread (system down, try once only etc) to discourage return customers.

If they could do a data check/survey, they will find some banks and some counters with unusually low strike rates while some will have unusually high strikes (> 2 * standard deviation statistically speaking). There are indeed some good staff helping their customers.

My 3 cents.

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I got to agree with you.
Probably I wouldn't blame the bank staff for doing that as many of them would be tired for trying it multiples times when knowing that its a low chance of getting it now.
Though they should still assist customers in getting it as a banker is defined as an individual that serves a relationship with its customers in performing various financial transactional needs for the customer.

Saddest thing is that I'm in a different department. If I'm with their personal banking division, I would make sure that every bank teller does make an effort to try it for their customers.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 12 2014, 05:29 PM)
Ha ha, if XXX,000 then 2 conclusions

- yes orang kaya then
- but also stupid carrying xxx,000 cash!

Now I regret mentioning this. Maybe I was so angry, airing my frustration on that day with so many things not going my way.

Saw so many threads especially in the FD forum about 50K, 100K, 250k, etc etc.

OK, will be more careful in what I put in here now though I don't have much to show off anyway. Still driving my 10+ yrs old Wira.

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Which fund u managed to get?  hmm.gif  Anyway congrats bro  rclxms.gif
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AS1M.
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I see. If I see someone carrying a tissue box in the bank, then I know it is YOU! Ha.

Did some quick calcs, each tissue box can hold about RM45,000 (RM50 notes) or RM90,000 (RM100 notes).

So your 100,000 in 1 tissue box is possible!

I will be more than willing to spend the RM2 for the IGB transfer than carrying that. Ha.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 12 2014, 05:00 PM)
Who knows, that could be my life saving?


If that was your life savings you would not have priority banking. Priority Banking means at least a few hundred thousand in the bank smile.gif

QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 12 2014, 05:00 PM)
You are entitled to your opinion on what you see or read but please respect others and not hastily jump to your conclusion.
Thanks!


Did not jump to any conclusions, it is quite logical to assume that someone with Priority Banking is rich, otherwise bank would not provide you priority banking services smile.gif

Anyway, don't you guys rather try for larger amounts on the other funds? I mean instead of giving people so much trouble trying and trying for Rm10, Rm100 etc. Why not just dump it in a commercial fund? really what is the big difference in commision cost between Rm100 in a commercial fund, and Rm100 in ASW? all this trouble to save Rm2 tongue.gif

If you look at all of PNB's funds, all started at Rm1, now all except one is 1.18-1.36, but all the fixed-price funds still stuck at Rm1.. but everyone wants to buy that lol smile.gif

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 12 2014, 06:26 PM)
If that was your life savings you would not have priority banking. Priority Banking means at least a few hundred thousand in the bank smile.gif
Did not jump to any conclusions, it is quite logical to assume that someone with Priority Banking is rich, otherwise bank would not provide you priority banking services smile.gif

Anyway, don't you guys rather try for larger amounts on the other funds? I mean instead of giving people so much trouble trying and trying for Rm10, Rm100 etc. Why not just dump it in a commercial fund? really what is the big difference in commision cost between Rm100 in a commercial fund, and Rm100 in ASW? all this trouble to save Rm2 tongue.gif

If you look at all of PNB's funds, all started at Rm1, now all except one is 1.18-1.36, but all the fixed-price funds still stuck at Rm1.. but everyone wants to buy that lol smile.gif
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OK lah, let us not make this into the email version of the US Open Tennis!

If I borrowed RM0.x million and bought an S Mercedes, am I rich? Same thing with the Priority Banking customers thing. Look deeper.

On the subject of "rich", how much is considered rich? 100K, 500K, 1 million, 10 million, 100 million???

One way to gauge is this formula (I think from the book The Millionaire Next Door)

One is wealthy when B is > 2 * A

A = age * annual income /10

B = net worth (i.e., assets - liabilities)

Then it is not a number for all but relative to one's income & expenses (one's lifestyle).


Speaking for myself, I am into ASX because it is about 2 times higher than FD.

Not into fund (I assume you meant things like UT) because of the annual management fee they charge even when the fund is loosing money! And I prefer to stay out of UT/shares now due to the volatile economy. So ASX is the best parking lot for me now (no, I am not driving a Bentley).

On fixed price vs variable price funds, fixed is better for me as I know I will be getting X% per year in dividend and not worry about the price. There are some shares in KLSE where they give one x% dividends but still making a lost due to the declining share prices. So work within my money risk profile.

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On fixed price vs variable price funds, fixed is better for me as I know I will be getting X% per year in dividend and not worry about the price. There are some shares in KLSE where they give one x% dividends but still making a lost due to the declining share prices. So work within my money risk profile.


But then you got to worry about the dividend, it's not a given that there will be a dividend even, or what the dividend will be. You do realize that a fixed price fund is still a unit trust fund right? you can deal with a variable dividend, but you can't deal with a variable price (which is actually, probably less volatile than the dividend?) smile.gif

That's just weird. Fixed-price funds have a management cost too, it's just buried in the dividend smile.gif



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with equities/UT, you may get a return of 10%pa or more, but you can also lose/get negative.

The fixed price ASM/ASW ,you can't get negative. Always above 6% pa.
Any surprise people are chasing that?

give me a 10% return with potential loss, i would go for a fixed 6%.

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Fixed pricing funds is suitable for investors with low risk tolerance together with almost guarantee annual dividend
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Normally people start from fixed pricing fund then slowly move towards variable pricing fund, lastly invest into equities & forex.

why people start from fixed pricing fund because maybe they lack of investment knowledge & need low risk investment to start of first icon_rolleyes.gif

some people who already invested in equities also invest in fixed price products because if equities make losses, the fixed price fund can "cover" some of the losses sweat.gif

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Normally people start from fixed pricing fund then slowly move towards variable pricing fund, lastly invest into equities & forex.

why people start from fixed pricing fund because maybe they lack of investment knowledge & need low risk investment to start of first  icon_rolleyes.gif

some people who already invested in equities also invest in fixed price products because if equities make losses, the fixed price fund can "cover" some of the losses  sweat.gif
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Strongly agree with what you have said above. Based on my experience, I know a few people that just wouldn't want to loose too much money on high risk investments due to the fact that they do not know much about the product well.
A person wouldn't mind just getting about 3.00++ on FD knowing that their investment is 100% guaranteed rather than putting it in a riskier investment like unit trust or playing with forex.

Person A may only have a total savings of RM10,000 and he/she wouldn't have the capacity to invest in a risky investment that has a high chance of him/her loosing their entire savings.

However, someone that has RM100k wouldn't mind putting in a certain percentage of his savings into a riskier investment as he has the capacity to do so.

In short, it could be said that the higher an individuals savings is, the higher the risk that that individual would be willing to take.
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Strongly agree with what you have said above. Based on my experience, I know a few people that just wouldn't want to loose too much money on high risk investments due to the fact that they do not know much about the product well.
A person wouldn't mind just getting about 3.00++ on FD knowing that their investment is 100% guaranteed rather than putting it in a riskier investment like unit trust or playing with forex.

Person A may only have a total savings of RM10,000 and he/she wouldn't have the capacity to invest in a risky investment that has a high chance of him/her loosing their entire savings.

However, someone that has RM100k wouldn't mind putting in a certain percentage of his savings into a riskier investment as he has the capacity to do so.

In short, it could be said that the higher an individuals savings is, the higher the risk that that individual would be willing to take.
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We need to also see age group. Some people with high individual saving with older profile also don't take big risk. They tend to invest in low risk investment. That's why u see mostly uncle & aunties queuing when any fixed pricing fund is launch or on normal days "top-up" nod.gif
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We need to also see age group.  Some people with high individual saving with older profile also don't take big risk. They tend to invest in low risk investment. That's why u see mostly uncle & aunties queuing when any fixed pricing fund is launch or on normal days "top-up"  nod.gif
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just wondering, would you guys consider those insurance saving plan? hmm.gif
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just wondering, would you guys consider those insurance saving plan?  hmm.gif
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Mind to share more info?
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What he means I guess is about those plans by AIG that requires you to pay a premium of a certain amount for let's say 10-15yrs.
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But then you got to worry about the dividend, it's not a given that there will be a dividend even, or what the dividend will be. You do realize that a fixed price fund is still a unit trust fund right? you can deal with a variable dividend, but you can't deal with a variable price (which is actually, probably less volatile than the dividend?) smile.gif

That's just weird. Fixed-price funds have a management cost too, it's just buried in the dividend smile.gif
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To me, the ASX dividends have been better, reliable and consistent (vs most UTs).

Yes, you are right, there is also management fee in the ASX (had a look at their annual report leaflet). But so far they have been delivering to the unit holders.

If I remember correctly, over the past 20 yrs, there was only 1 year where the FD rate was higher than the ASX (the financial crisis in 1998?).

Plot a graph of ASX dividends, FD rate and some common UT dividends and you will see the difference. It is not the best but more reliable.

Closing this at my end. Cheerio.


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What he means I guess is about those plans by AIG that requires you to pay a premium of a certain amount for let's say 10-15yrs.
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Yeah, something like that...maybe they will add on some Critical Illness coverage...but just wondering how many % they able to give us? they always showed us 2 columns, one is lower % and the other one with higher % (if they perform well)

Do these kind of saving plan attracted to you guys? personally, I don't really fancy it due to they have certain maturity date to comply before you can withdraw the money hence limited the flexibility as compared to ASX fund...am i right?


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Yeah, something like that...maybe they will add on some Critical Illness coverage...but just wondering how many % they able to give us? they always showed us 2 columns, one is lower % and the other one with higher % (if they perform well)

Do these kind of saving plan attracted to you guys? personally, I don't really fancy it due to they have certain maturity date to comply before you can withdraw the money hence limited the flexibility as compared to ASX fund...am i right?
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Yes it does not seem like a good deal, I calculated it once, it was like 1-2% per year, and that was their best case scenario tongue.gif if people want insurance they should buy insurance, if they want to invest they should invest. All these hybrid plans, not enough coverage and also not enough return tongue.gif



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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 13 2014, 10:12 AM)
Yeah, something like that...maybe they will add on some Critical Illness coverage...but just wondering how many % they able to give us? they always showed us 2 columns, one is lower % and the other one with higher % (if they perform well)

Do these kind of saving plan attracted to you guys? personally, I don't really fancy it due to they have certain maturity date to comply before you can withdraw the money hence limited the flexibility as compared to ASX fund...am i right?
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My only advice to you is that you would have to really check on the actual effective rate of return. They could say that you could earn up to 12%p.a but that's not tha case when your investment expires.
I would only opt for insurance companies when I'm looking for stuffs such as insurance products (life,health,etc) and not for saving products.
That's just my point of view. Others may strongly disagree with my view.
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My only advice to you is that you would have to really check on the actual effective rate of return. They could say that you could earn up to 12%p.a but that's not tha case when your investment expires.
I would only opt for insurance companies when I'm looking for stuffs such as insurance products (life,health,etc) and not for saving products.
That's just my point of view. Others may strongly disagree with my view.
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Yes it does not seem like a good deal, I calculated it once, it was like 1-2% per year, and that was their best case scenario tongue.gif if people want insurance they should buy insurance, if they want to invest they should invest. All these hybrid plans, not enough coverage and also not enough return tongue.gif
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I had to pay RM299 per money for 25 consecutive year .
RM299 x 12 month x 25 = RM89700.
So the question's is there any Interest Rate from it?Apparently i don't know much about this,and i didn't read the agreement given by the do-er of my ASB(or shall i say not given chance to read them because too rush last time).
So is there any riba elements on my method of invesment?Where did my Rm89700 go?Is it because i borrow RM50000 i should pay RM89700 becuase of interest rate?
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Should i cancel the contract/agreement?or shall i continue but donate whole the money to charity after 25 years and keep my capital (RM89700 or RM50000?)bcuz it's my right ?

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Should i cancel the contract/agreement?or shall i continue but donate whole the money to charity after 25 years and keep my capital (RM89700 or RM50000?)bcuz it's my right ?
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It really up to you. If you cannot live with it knowing that it is a riba, then cancel it. But normally you will have to pay penalty etc.

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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 13 2014, 04:41 PM)
Should i cancel the contract/agreement?or shall i continue but donate whole the money to charity after 25 years and keep my capital (RM89700 or RM50000?)bcuz it's my right ?
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You (we) normal citizen without any formal qualification shouldn't put a status on any official item of discussion (loan, agreement etc).

We in Malaysia have two official opinion, which anyone are free to follow which one they suit the best.

Some mufti agreed that is it not haram, after considering that this is one of the way bumiputera and muslim's help from government to be excel financially.

If you personally don't agree and think its haram, then opt out.

When others thought differently then what you think, its their choice; - as long as any decision was made after a fully informed thinking.


Funny when something even half beneficial as ASB being scrutinized till its very details while the obvious corruption/misplaced akidah been taken etc lightly.
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Mar 13 2014, 04:56 PM)
You (we) normal citizen without any formal qualification shouldn't put a status on any official item of discussion (loan, agreement etc).

We in Malaysia have two official opinion, which anyone are free to follow which one they suit the best.

Some mufti agreed that is it not haram, after considering that this is one of the way bumiputera and muslim's help from government to be excel financially.

If you personally don't agree and think its haram, then opt out.

When others thought differently then what you think, its their choice; - as long as any decision was made after a fully informed thinking.
Funny when something even half beneficial as ASB being scrutinized till its very details while the obvious corruption/misplaced akidah been taken etc lightly.
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Maybe it 'sabout getting in Hell for eternity for those who received/gives out Riba,while corruption don't? I'am not sure about corruption though maybe because it doesn't affects most of the people,but only the people who are corrupting.
So it means that i borrow RM50 000 from RHB and invest in ASB ,every year i get 8%+ dividen.So every month i have to pay RM299 accumulated until RM89 700,so the extra RM39 700 is the interest rate right?isn't that illegal in the islamic law?u pay more than u should. icon_question.gif
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Hukum Melabur Dalam ASB Dan ASN ‘Harus’
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Hukum Melabur Dalam ASB Dan ASN ‘Harus’
http://mynewshub.my/2014/02/14/hukum-melab...s/#.UxcEeM7z6ho
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IF investing in ASB is harus,then how about if i borrow money?Is this considered as borrowing money from the nak with INTEREST RATE?As far as i know money borrowing with Interest Rate is prohibited for Muslim?Please enlighten me if I'am wrong.
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isn't that illegal in the islamic law?u pay more than u should. icon_question.gif
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So how much you think you should pay back to bank?... hmm.gif

By the way, mine was ASB loan (with shariah compliance). They don't use the term "interest" and replace it with something else, but technically its the same concept.
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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 13 2014, 05:06 PM)
Maybe it 'sabout getting in Hell for eternity for those who received/gives out Riba,while corruption don't? I'am not sure about corruption though maybe because it doesn't affects most of the people,but only the people who are corrupting.
So it means that i borrow RM50 000 from RHB and invest in ASB ,every year i get 8%+ dividen.So every month i have to pay RM299 accumulated until RM89 700,so the extra RM39 700 is the interest rate right?isn't that illegal in the islamic law?u pay more than u should. icon_question.gif
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Errr... People who take and give bribes (corruption) will also go to Hell. There's a hadith about this.

Anyway, I believe that whether it is a small matter or a big matter, it shouldn't be taken lightly if there is a clear directive about it in Islam.

But, back to the loan question, yes the rm39700 is the interest rate and it is illegal in Islamic Law. However, if you make islamic loan for rm50k for 25 years, I assure you that you will pay more than rm89700 over 25 years because of higher profit rate (read: interest rate) than conventional loans. My point is, whether your loan is conventional or islamic, you still have to pay more than what you borrowed. The only difference is that the islamic law is structured in such a way that it is permissible in islamic law of transaction.

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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 13 2014, 05:13 PM)
IF investing in ASB is harus,then how about if i borrow money?Is this considered as borrowing money from the nak with INTEREST RATE?As far as i know money borrowing with Interest Rate is prohibited for Muslim?Please enlighten me if I'am wrong.
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//offtopic: i laugh at your shallowness

really, petty matter like this? if it bothers you so much, then you should terminate the loan, pay the penalty and be happy

there is absolutely nothing wrong with ASB financing package - legally, morally or if you want, religiously

go read up the loan terms and agreement in details. or get a lawyer to read it for you

you are given the FINAL AMOUNT of your loan, including interest (or whatever u wanna call it religiously). thus, it is already in the mudarabah concept. RHB buys the RM50k certificate for you. THen repacakage it and sell it at RM 89k to you by means of installment. the 39k is the bank's upfront profit

i really pity "pious" guys like these, who debate endlessly about riba, interest and such but still watch pirated anime, listen to pirated music, buy photocopy of university text books... and not forgetting watching porn and fapping silently in the toilet of the campus


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QUOTE(Nidz @ Mar 13 2014, 05:14 PM)
Errr... People who take and give bribes (corruption) will also go to Hell. There's a hadith about this.

Anyway, I believe that whether it is a small matter or a big matter, it shouldn't be taken lightly if there is a clear directive about it in Islam.

But, back to the loan question, yes the rm39700 is the interest rate and it is illegal in Islamic Law. However, if you make islamic loan for rm50k for 25 years, I assure you that you will pay more than rm89700 over 25 years because of higher profit rate (read: interest rate) than conventional loans. My point is, whether your loan is conventional or islamic, you still have to pay more than what you borrowed. The only difference is that the islamic law is structured in such a way that it is permissible in islamic law of transaction.
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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 13 2014, 05:13 PM)
IF investing in ASB is harus,then how about if i borrow money?Is this considered as borrowing money from the nak with INTEREST RATE?As far as i know money borrowing with Interest Rate is prohibited for Muslim?Please enlighten me if I'am wrong.
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All loans taken from banks (conventional or islamic) need to pay "extra". Only the term is different. The concept is the same sweat.gif
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All loans taken from banks (conventional or islamic) need to pay "extra". Only the term is different. The concept is the same  sweat.gif
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as for maybank, they call the interest rate as financing rate

that is in conventional loan, u use BLR

in islamic loan, u use BFR - base financing rate, which is basically pegged to BLR
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i really pity "pious" guys like these, who debate endlessly about riba, interest and such but still watch pirated anime, listen to pirated music, buy photocopy of university text books... and not forgetting watching porn and fapping silently in the toilet of the campus
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Yes it does not seem like a good deal, I calculated it once, it was like 1-2% per year, and that was their best case scenario tongue.gif if people want insurance they should buy insurance, if they want to invest they should invest. All these hybrid plans, not enough coverage and also not enough return tongue.gif
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Do you mind to give me some ideas on the calculation? thumbup.gif

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My only advice to you is that you would have to really check on the actual effective rate of return. They could say that you could earn up to 12%p.a but that's not tha case when your investment expires.
I would only opt for insurance companies when I'm looking for stuffs such as insurance products (life,health,etc) and not for saving products.
That's just my point of view. Others may strongly disagree with my view.
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I do agree with that and that's why i rather hunt for ASX fund than saving in those plan...just wanna gather some opinion here...hehe rclxms.gif

Anyway, I managed to top up another RM1450 into my ASM today

RM 350 + RM 150 in the morning

RM 100 + RM450 + RM400 in the afternoon rclxm9.gif

Actually I am wondering is there any associated risk with this ASX fund? if government changed (if only if sweat.gif ), will it affect this fund?


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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 13 2014, 05:53 PM)
Anyway, I managed to top up another RM1450 into my ASM today

RM 350 + RM 150 in the morning

RM 100 + RM450 + RM400 in the afternoon  rclxm9.gif

Actually I am wondering is there any associated risk with this ASX fund? if government changed (if only if  sweat.gif ), will it affect this fund?
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wow rclxms.gif
change of gomen may have some minimal effect, not until the extend of bankruptcy sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 13 2014, 05:41 PM)
//offtopic: i laugh at your shallowness

really, petty matter like this? if it bothers you so much, then you should terminate the loan, pay the penalty and be happy

there is absolutely nothing wrong with ASB financing package - legally, morally or if you want, religiously

go read up the loan terms and agreement in details. or get a lawyer to read it for you

you are given the FINAL AMOUNT of your loan, including interest (or whatever u wanna call it religiously). thus, it is already in the mudarabah concept. RHB buys the RM50k certificate for you. THen repacakage it and sell it at RM 89k to you by means of installment. the 39k is the bank's upfront profit

i really pity "pious" guys like these, who debate endlessly about riba, interest and such but still watch pirated anime, listen to pirated music, buy photocopy of university text books... and not forgetting watching porn and fapping silently in the toilet of the campus
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1 - I agree in so many ways. People nowadays already detached between religion and nowadays life, and they tend to treat them in two separate entity.

2 - Also, its a major mistake to sign your agreement on something you don't even realize in the first place.

3 - Err. Asking to pay the exact amount of money you loan from bank? I hate to sound cliche, but how old are you Nursh.


Please don't take it in a wrong way, but all the sifu in here are trying to clarify your confusion in their own way/tone/words. After evaluating all the facts given, you are free to choose your decision smile.gif
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Actually I am wondering is there any associated risk with this ASX fund? if government changed (if only if  sweat.gif ), will it affect this fund?
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wow  rclxms.gif
change of gomen may have some minimal effect, not until the extend of bankruptcy  sweat.gif
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if this is kopitiam, i may talk about some delicious rumours about the sources and backings of the ever performing Amanah Saham...  wink.gif
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Do you mind to give me some ideas on the calculation?  thumbup.gif
I do agree with that and that's why i rather hunt for ASX fund than saving in those plan...just wanna gather some opinion here...hehe  rclxms.gif

Anyway, I managed to top up another RM1450 into my ASM today

RM 350 + RM 150 in the morning

RM 100 + RM450 + RM400 in the afternoon  rclxm9.gif

Actually I am wondering is there any associated risk with this ASX fund? if government changed (if only if  sweat.gif ), will it affect this fund?
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Yeah I guess something is wrong now. Having a lot of my non-bumi friends getting to too up their amanah saham accounts. I guess many people are selling off their units.

Is there anything to be worried off ? Signal of anything ?

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Yeah I guess something is wrong now. Having a lot of my non-bumi friends getting to too up their amanah saham accounts. I guess many people are selling off their units.

Is there anything to be worried off ? Signal of anything ?
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if this is kopitiam, i may talk about some delicious rumours about the sources and backings of the ever performing Amanah Saham...  wink.gif
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 13 2014, 06:22 PM)
Yeah I guess something is wrong now. Having a lot of my non-bumi friends getting to too up their amanah saham accounts. I guess many people are selling off their units.

Is there anything to be worried off ? Signal of anything ?
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Am I reading it correctly, your friends selling their units (houses, apartments etc) and park their money in ASX?

Or many people selling their ASX units and your friends topping up these available units?

Interesting .....
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if this is kopitiam, i may talk about some delicious rumours about the sources and backings of the ever performing Amanah Saham...  wink.gif
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Count me in for the "delicious rumours" and the first round of kau kau coffee is on me!
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Yeah I guess something is wrong now. Having a lot of my non-bumi friends getting to too up their amanah saham accounts. I guess many people are selling off their units.

Is there anything to be worried off ? Signal of anything ?
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1 - I agree in so many ways. People nowadays already detached between religion and nowadays life, and they tend to treat them in two separate entity.

2 - Also, its a major mistake to sign your agreement on something you don't even realize in the first place.

3 - Err. Asking to pay the exact amount of money you loan from bank? I hate to sound cliche, but how old are you Nursh.
Please don't take it in a wrong way, but all the sifu in here are trying to clarify your confusion in their own way/tone/words. After evaluating all the facts given, you are free to choose your decision smile.gif
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I'am 18.I signed it because all my other sister did it too,i suppose they know what they're doing but unfortunately not.
So if i borrow money from the RHB bank pay the extra interest rate/whatever they named it in Islamic way then it won't considered as riba?or?I have read on some website says that ASB is harus,but loan money from bank to invest in asb is tidak harus?why so?

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Yeah I guess something is wrong now. Having a lot of my non-bumi friends getting to too up their amanah saham accounts. I guess many people are selling off their units.

Is there anything to be worried off ? Signal of anything ?
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Yeah, I somehow feel a bit weird why people are selling their units when dividend date is just less than 2 weeks away...maybe they "pre-enjoy" the dividend first? so they can skip the queue during dividend date? tongue.gif
they still can get 11 months dividend even though they withdraw now, right?




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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 13 2014, 05:41 PM)
//offtopic: i laugh at your shallowness

really, petty matter like this? if it bothers you so much, then you should terminate the loan, pay the penalty and be happy

there is absolutely nothing wrong with ASB financing package - legally, morally or if you want, religiously

go read up the loan terms and agreement in details. or get a lawyer to read it for you

you are given the FINAL AMOUNT of your loan, including interest (or whatever u wanna call it religiously). thus, it is already in the mudarabah concept. RHB buys the RM50k certificate for you. THen repacakage it and sell it at RM 89k to you by means of installment. the 39k is the bank's upfront profit

i really pity "pious" guys like these, who debate endlessly about riba, interest and such but still watch pirated anime, listen to pirated music, buy photocopy of university text books... and not forgetting watching porn and fapping silently in the toilet of the campus
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Wow what a harsh answer from a staff of LYN! shakehead.gif Shame on you judging people around.
Maybe it's yourself that you referred to.Petty matter?that's bullshit coming from you,staff of LYN. I have never get into this ASB/Bank things and now I'am learning. Your attitude is so rude!laugh at my shallowness?that shows how low standard the staff of LYN is. Maybe you shouldn't even become a staff.
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Yeah, I somehow feel a bit weird why people are selling their units when dividend date is just less than 2 weeks away...maybe they "pre-enjoy" the dividend first? so they can skip the queue during dividend date? tongue.gif
they still can get 11 months dividend even though they withdraw now, right?
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Dividend is calculated based on lowest balance in a month
Those investors who withdraw in Mar 2014 still njoy 12 months dividend
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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 13 2014, 11:54 PM)
Wow what a harsh answer from a staff of LYN! shakehead.gif Shame on you judging people around.
Maybe it's yourself that you referred to.Petty matter?that's bullshit coming from you,staff of LYN. I have never get into this ASB/Bank things and now I'am learning. Your attitude is so rude!laugh at my shallowness?that shows how low standard the staff of LYN is. Maybe you shouldn't even become a staff.
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learn the correct thing and don't get blurred up by religion requirements interpreted by non scholars. anyone want to become pious, but forgot still listen to pirated music and using pirated ms office.

it's just like some muslim who condemn pork so much, but ok for guy-girl non-muhrim to hold hands walking in shopping complexes.

so next time you want to quote something religious about non compliance financing, pls give me quote from hadith and koran verses. anybody can talk, but not many can back it up with facts

again, wink.gif


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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 13 2014, 11:25 PM)
I'am 18.I signed it because all my other sister did it too,i suppose they know what they're doing but unfortunately not.
So if i borrow money from the RHB bank pay the extra interest rate/whatever they named it in Islamic way then it won't considered as riba?or?I have read on some website says that ASB is harus,but loan money from bank to invest in asb is tidak harus?why so?
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again, you are basing your beliefs on website

have you consulted islamic scholars? i have a few referrals from al-azhar if you want to contact them.

well, to make things simpler, if you think ASB financing is on the borderline of haram, you will not be driving any car or buying any homes

car financing and home loans are... well, you got to learn it yourself. a rude staff will not be of any help. smile.gif
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learn the correct thing and don't get blurred up by religion requirements interpreted by non scholars. anyone want to become pious, but forgot still listen to pirated music and using pirated ms office.

it's just like some muslim who condemn pork so much, but ok for guy-girl non-muhrim to hold hands walking in shopping complexes.

so next time you want to quote something religious about non compliance financing, pls give me quote from hadith and koran verses. anybody can talk, but not many can back it up with facts

again,  wink.gif
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That's what most Malay in Malaysia are doing right now and I'am in no part of it.You should give a straight up answer if you really want to help the Muslims instead of teasing and laughing at their shallowness. shakehead.gif
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Just open new ASG a/c today
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Which ASG did you opt for and why ?
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Which ASG did you opt for and why ?
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Choose all the 3 segments
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Choose all the 3 segments
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Getting into ASG has been at the back of my mind but have not really come to a decision. Mind sharing your thoughts on why you went ahead with these, if you don't mind sharing?

Thanks.
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Choose all the 3 segments
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So that means its 3 separate accounts ?
I'm not familiar with ASG.
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That's what most Malay in Malaysia are doing right now and I'am in no part of it.You should give a straight up answer if you really want to help the Muslims instead of teasing and laughing at their shallowness. shakehead.gif
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i have no interest to help others who blindly believe and follow what the internet and masses says

my beliefs are based on hadiths and qoran, and what i doubt, i will refer to reputable and believable islamic sholars

same goes to ASB. if you have pre-judged that ASB financing is haram according to your interpretation of islamic laws, then i'm sorry - i'm not interested to help you.

plus, for the bolded part, there's an old malay saying, he who eats chilli, will feel hot wink.gif
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Just open new ASG a/c today
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pls be my test bed. let's say you deposited RM 1,000 into the ASG

pls update us every quarterly how much the RM 1,000 grows smile.gif

NAV is quite bothersome to me to calculate
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Getting into ASG has been at the back of my mind but have not really come to a decision. Mind sharing your thoughts on why you went ahead with these, if you don't mind sharing?

Thanks.
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2% service charges -v- 5% next week onwards
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So that means its 3 separate accounts ?
I'm not familiar with ASG.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 14 2014, 02:59 PM)
2% service charges -v- 5% next week onwards
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Good decision & u also "help" fill-up ASG units rclxms.gif

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 14 2014, 03:01 PM)
Yup, Pendidikan, Kesihatan n Persaraan
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2% service charges -v- 5% next week onwards
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I see, thanks.

Wah, you did it on the last day before the offer is over. Ha.

I am more looking at the performance and so, still hanging in the air.

Cheerio.
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2% service charges -v- 5% next week onwards
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So the quotas for ASG isn't full yet ?


I would read up about ASG more tonight.
Only thing that I know bout this product is that it isn't a fixed price fund and there would be charges imposed against transactions.
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 14 2014, 02:55 PM)
pls be my test bed. let's say you deposited RM 1,000 into the ASG

pls update us every quarterly how much the RM 1,000 grows  smile.gif

NAV is quite bothersome to me to calculate
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Sure, provided if I remember
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So the quotas for ASG isn't full yet ?
I would read up about ASG more tonight.
Only thing that I know bout this product is that it isn't a fixed price fund and there would be charges imposed against transactions.
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you are absoutely correct

the 5% service charge is one of the turn off, plus the fluctuating NAV

if you plan to put the money in and do not touch it for a few yrs, you may earn a decent 4 - 5% according to RM value.
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I see, thanks.

Wah, you did it on the last day before the offer is over. Ha.

I am more looking at the performance and so, still hanging in the air.

Cheerio.
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Today 14 March is the last day for ASG 2% SC promo

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Good decision & u also "help" fill-up ASG units  rclxms.gif
why u chose all 3 not just 1?  hmm.gif
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Hi all,
Just to share my ASG performance so far after 1.5 month, for those who are interested to know.

I had opened ASG (all the 3 funds) at end Jan 2014, after one month they have appreciated to cover the 2% SC (except for ASG-Pesaraan).

As of this week the returns are as follow after net off the 2% SC:
(the returns are purely based on unit price movement w/o dividend)
ASG-Pendidikan : cum roi = 0.40%; annualized roi = 3.98%
ASG-Kesihatan : cum roi = 0.67%; annualized roi = 6.85%
ASG-Persaraan : cum roi = -0.09%; annualized roi = -0.84%
ASG-overall : cum roi = 0.33%; annualized roi = 3.29%

Note 1: Diversify to get all the 3 funds seems better in risk management as shown here.
Note 2: roi is slower at the start as it has to overcome the 2% SC. Annualized roi should grow along the year.
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Just open new ASG a/c today
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Just wondering what other ASX fund you have besides these ASG? getting tired of trying at bank,post office? or you merely wanna spread out the investments? notworthy.gif
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Just wondering what other ASX fund you have besides these ASG? getting tired of trying at bank,post office? or you merely wanna spread out the investments?  notworthy.gif
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All fixed price funds together with 1st variable fund with ASNB
Capitalize on 2% service charges instead of 5%
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QUOTE(tbheng @ Mar 14 2014, 04:43 PM)
Hi all,
Just to share my ASG performance so far after 1.5 month, for those who are interested to know.

I had opened ASG (all the 3 funds) at end Jan 2014, after one month they have appreciated to cover the 2% SC (except for ASG-Pesaraan).

As of this week the returns are as follow after net off the 2% SC:
(the returns are purely based on unit price movement w/o dividend)
ASG-Pendidikan : cum roi = 0.40%; annualized roi = 3.98%
ASG-Kesihatan : cum roi = 0.67%; annualized roi = 6.85%
ASG-Persaraan : cum roi = -0.09%; annualized roi = -0.84%
ASG-overall : cum roi = 0.33%; annualized roi = 3.29%

Note 1: Diversify to get all the 3 funds seems better in risk management as shown here. 
Note 2: roi is slower at the start as it has to overcome the 2% SC. Annualized roi should grow along the year.
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Not bad even it's just 1.5 Months rclxms.gif

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I rmb i last bank in 31/7/13 NAV was 1.18 (after 2% imposed.) now the NAV is 1.223.


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QUOTE(tbheng @ Mar 14 2014, 04:43 PM)
Hi all,
Just to share my ASG performance so far after 1.5 month, for those who are interested to know.

I had opened ASG (all the 3 funds) at end Jan 2014, after one month they have appreciated to cover the 2% SC (except for ASG-Pesaraan).

As of this week the returns are as follow after net off the 2% SC:
(the returns are purely based on unit price movement w/o dividend)
ASG-Pendidikan : cum roi = 0.40%; annualized roi = 3.98%
ASG-Kesihatan : cum roi = 0.67%; annualized roi = 6.85%
ASG-Persaraan : cum roi = -0.09%; annualized roi = -0.84%
ASG-overall : cum roi = 0.33%; annualized roi = 3.29%

Note 1: Diversify to get all the 3 funds seems better in risk management as shown here. 
Note 2: roi is slower at the start as it has to overcome the 2% SC. Annualized roi should grow along the year.
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this is very good info. thank you for sharing.

from your summary, ASG kesihatan is promising

while the rest are almost the same with FD
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 14 2014, 05:46 PM)
I rmb i last bank in 31/7/13 NAV was 1.18 (after 2% imposed.) now the NAV is 1.223.
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Generally what are you guys choice after ASB and ASW2020 ?
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this is very good info. thank you for sharing.

from your summary, ASG kesihatan is promising

while the rest are almost the same with FD
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Generally what are you guys choice after ASB and ASW2020 ?
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QUOTE(tbheng @ Mar 14 2014, 04:43 PM)

As of this week the returns are as follow after net off the 2% SC:
(the returns are purely based on unit price movement w/o dividend)
ASG-Pendidikan : cum roi = 0.40%; annualized roi = 3.98%
ASG-Kesihatan : cum roi = 0.67%; annualized roi = 6.85%
ASG-Persaraan : cum roi = -0.09%; annualized roi = -0.84%
ASG-overall : cum roi = 0.33%; annualized roi = 3.29%

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Very gud start...

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I rmb i last bank in 31/7/13 NAV was 1.18 (after 2% imposed.) now the NAV is 1.223.
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If u compared Nav to Nav, ROI is 3.64% (7.5 mths)
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ASM n AS1M
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If u compared Nav to Nav, ROI is 3.64% (7.5 mths)
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how to calculate?
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how to calculate?
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how to calculate?
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3.64% is simple calculation
Since yo investments < 1 yr, 'annualized' calculation is more accurate
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 14 2014, 05:46 PM)
I rmb i last bank in 31/7/13 NAV was 1.18 (after 2% imposed.) now the NAV is 1.223.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 14 2014, 07:30 PM)
If u compared Nav to Nav, ROI is 3.64% (7.5 mths)
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 14 2014, 08:02 PM)
how to calculate?
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 14 2014, 09:33 PM)
3.64% is simple calculation
Since yo investments < 1 yr, 'annualized' calculation is more accurate
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Annualized ROI = (1.223-1.18) / 1.18 / (14Mar2014 - 31Jul2013) * 365 = 5.89%

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QUOTE(tbheng @ Mar 14 2014, 10:45 PM)
Annualized ROI = (1.223-1.18) / 1.18 / (14Mar2014 - 31Jul2013) * 365 = 5.89%
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after 1 if april I report
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Dun understand
Mind to elaborate further?
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Dun understand
Mind to elaborate further?
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I think he meant after the dividend (1 April 2014) then report back the performance (NAV + Dividend).
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I think he meant after the dividend (1 April 2014) then report back the performance (NAV + Dividend).
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After dividend, Nav drop n units increase
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 15 2014, 10:24 AM)
Value won't change b4 n after dividend
After dividend, Nav drop n units increase
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corrrect. they call it unit re-distribution. NAV will fall as the value of the whole investment is the same.
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 14 2014, 05:55 PM)
Generally what are you guys choice after ASB and ASW2020 ?
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Just curious;

Normally by this statement/question, its mean once you maxed your ASB and ASW, what are the other best choices?

OR half on ASB and ASW, and you seeking to invest in other account too?
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Mar 15 2014, 03:34 PM)
Just curious;

Normally by this statement/question, its mean once you maxed your ASB and ASW, what are the other best choices?

OR half on ASB and ASW, and you seeking to invest in other account too?
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It depends, most likely max
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Mar 15 2014, 03:34 PM)
Just curious;

Normally by this statement/question, its mean once you maxed your ASB and ASW, what are the other best choices?

OR half on ASB and ASW, and you seeking to invest in other account too?
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max out your ASB first since it is the highest gaining fund - 8+%

then maximise whatever is available for AS1M and ASW2020 - there's still plenty of bumi lots available and topping up 20k to 50k pose not much problem

just be careful if you put in more than 50k. you'll face the extra hassle of filling in a BNM declaration form.
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Mar 15 2014, 03:34 PM)
Just curious;

Normally by this statement/question, its mean once you maxed your ASB and ASW, what are the other best choices?

OR half on ASB and ASW, and you seeking to invest in other account too?
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I meant the former statement stated by you.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 14 2014, 06:00 PM)
AS1M if you're bumi  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 14 2014, 07:31 PM)
ASM n AS1M
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ok noted nod.gif
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 15 2014, 06:35 PM)
noted  nod.gif
ok noted  nod.gif
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Max your ASB first. then only look at ASW2020 & AS1M icon_rolleyes.gif
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Usah terus bertelagah isu ASB/ASN
http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/Rencana/20...agah-isu-ASBASN
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 16 2014, 01:22 PM)
Really rclxub.gif doh.gif

Maybe someday they should issue one fund Amanah saham only for muslim.


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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 16 2014, 03:14 PM)
Really  rclxub.gif  doh.gif

Maybe someday they should issue one fund Amanah saham only for muslim.
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u mean Shariah-compliant Amanah Saham fund for Muslim only just like TH? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 16 2014, 09:53 PM)
u mean Shariah-compliant Amanah Saham fund for Muslim only just like TH?  hmm.gif
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I think so.....
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I think so.....
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Any1 know where is d venue of MSAM 2014?
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Any1 know where is d venue of MSAM 2014?
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Not too sure. It was in Perlis last year right ?
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 16 2014, 11:50 PM)
Not too sure. It was in Perlis last year right ?
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must be due to ASB/ASN
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 16 2014, 11:25 PM)
Any1 know where is d venue of MSAM 2014?
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This year got MSAM? did last year in Perlis, again this year? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 17 2014, 05:24 PM)
This year got MSAM? did last year in Perlis, again this year?  hmm.gif
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This is an annual event by PNB
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After so long "trying", managed to get some ASM units (300+300) sweat.gif

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 18 2014, 12:13 PM)
After so long "trying", managed to get some ASM units (300+300)  sweat.gif
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Congrats...
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Congrats...
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thanks.
how about you?
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thanks.
how about you?
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I got RM300 for today and RM100 for yesterday too icon_rolleyes.gif
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I seriously wonder why are people selling off their ASM units now when there's a few days more for the financial year to end.
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For me, kosong for yesterday.

Kosong again for today though I went to 2 places, PM and CIMB.

The one at CIMB suggested that I should try at ASNB. Ha. Why I wonder.

Cheerio.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 18 2014, 02:11 PM)
For me, kosong for yesterday.

Kosong again for today though I went to 2 places, PM and CIMB.

The one at CIMB suggested that I should try at ASNB. Ha. Why I wonder.

Cheerio.
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Guess because the staffs of Cimb are annoyed with customers trying to purchase units now lol.
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 18 2014, 01:57 PM)
I seriously wonder why are people selling off their ASM units now when there's a few days more for the financial year to end.
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Maybe they really need the money for something important like to pay house down-payment brows.gif

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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 18 2014, 01:23 PM)
I got RM300 for today and RM100 for yesterday too  icon_rolleyes.gif
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No aunties & uncles there "trying" brows.gif

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 18 2014, 03:11 PM)
Maybe they really need the money for something important like to pay house down-payment brows.gif
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If I'm not mistaken they are going to cut any transactions for asm on the 21st or 25th for the purpose of monthly interest calculations.

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If I'm not mistaken they are going to cut any transactions for asm on the 21st or 25th for the purpose of monthly interest calculations.
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from 23rd onwards icon_rolleyes.gif
http://www.asnb.com.my/poster_penangguhan/...20ASG%20Eng.pdf
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 18 2014, 03:16 PM)
No aunties & uncles there "trying" brows.gif
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Hehe~the staff told me the uncle tried but can't get any while the aunty MIA for few days, maybe getting frustrated for always failed tongue.gif


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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 18 2014, 05:00 PM)
Hehe~the staff told me the uncle tried but can't get any while the aunty MIA for few days, maybe getting frustrated for always failed  tongue.gif
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Less "competition" & higher chance for you at the branch rclxms.gif
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hehe~this is just intra-branch competition but there is still inter-branch competition which is more stiff
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 18 2014, 05:37 PM)
hehe~this is just intra-branch competition but there is still inter-branch competition which is more stiff
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1.7k agents/branch whole of Malaysia sweat.gif Just imagine all of them "trying" at the same time shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 18 2014, 01:23 PM)
I got RM300 for today and RM100 for yesterday too  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Congrats...
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I seriously wonder why are people selling off their ASM units now when there's a few days more for the financial year to end.
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They need $ for emergency purpose...
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 18 2014, 06:28 PM)
They need $ for emergency purpose...
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Agreed with your statement icon_rolleyes.gif
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ASNB will announce ASM dividend tomorrow
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 18 2014, 07:15 PM)
ASNB will announce ASM dividend tomorrow
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The whole truth and nothing but the truth? Ha.

Surprising. Thought we will only know on 1 April.

Anything to do with Kajang? Ha. If early announcement, then must be a BIG % then. Hope so.

Cheerio.

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 18 2014, 07:59 PM)
The whole truth and nothing but the truth? Ha.

Surprising. Thought we will only know on 1 April.

Anything to do with Kajang? Ha. If early announcement, then must be a BIG % then. Hope so.

Cheerio.
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Normally PNB would announce the dividend rate earlier, not on 1st April. I'm expecting on 20/21 March but as bro wil-i-am said it's tomorrow 19 March, then we shall wait for the good news.

As my previous posting, I'm expecting around 6.7 - 7sen range icon_rolleyes.gif


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It is a good news if it is 6.7-7.0 cents~ those are my transactions since 7th February 2014 until yesterday, just to share and thanks for all those sifu replying my questions...Let's pray our dream comes true rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 19 2014, 08:58 AM)
It is a good news if it is 6.7-7.0 cents~ those are my transactions since 7th February 2014 until yesterday, just to share and thanks for all those sifu replying my questions...Let's pray our dream comes true  rclxm9.gif
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i guess you will have to replace your passbook every 8 months liao... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 18 2014, 07:59 PM)
The whole truth and nothing but the truth? Ha.

Surprising. Thought we will only know on 1 April.

Anything to do with Kajang? Ha. If early announcement, then must be a BIG % then. Hope so.

Cheerio.
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Nothing to do with Kajang
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 18 2014, 10:08 PM)
Normally PNB would announce the dividend rate earlier, not on 1st April.  I'm expecting on 20/21 March but as bro wil-i-am said it's tomorrow 19 March, then we shall wait for the good news.

As my previous posting, I'm expecting around 6.7 - 7sen range  icon_rolleyes.gif
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M xpecting 7%
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 19 2014, 09:15 AM)
M xpecting 7%
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I don't think it's going to touch 7%.
The highest would be at 6.7-6.8%.

What time are they announcing it ?
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I don't think it's going to touch 7%.
The highest would be at 6.7-6.8%.

What time are they announcing it ?
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After lunch
Could b > 7%
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ASNB Declares 6.60 Sen Dividend For ASM Investors

Amanah Saham Nasional Bhd (ASNB), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB), on Wednesday announced a 6.60 sen dividend for a unit of Amanah Saham Malaysia (ASM) for the financial year ending March 31, 2014.

The 6.60 sen income distribution is higher than the 6.50 sen normal dividend and 0.30 sen special dividend per unit paid last year, PNB Chairman Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid said.

He said the income distribution entails RM947.10 million in total payout, up from RM913.85 million last year.

The payment will benefit 530,000 unitholders, who currently hold 14.34 billion ASM units, he told a press conference.

He said that until March 17, 2014, the Fund has a gross income of RM1.61 billion. Profits from the sale of shares contributed RM544.94 million or 46.8 per cent of gross income.

Dividend income from investment in companies contributed 37.4 per cent, with the remaining 15.8 per cent coming from investments in short-term instruments.

The income distribution will be reinvested in additional units and be automatically credited into unitholders' accounts on April 1, to enable them to benefit on the return from the growth of the ASM fund units.


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0.10% xtra is too little when compared to EPF which managed to pay 0.20% xtra despite lower xposure in equity
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 19 2014, 03:54 PM)
0.10% xtra is too little when compared to EPF which managed to pay 0.20% xtra despite lower xposure in equity
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Maybe they c/fwd more income to next year distribution hmm.gif
as u said previously EPF pays 100% of their profit & don't c/fwd to next year whistling.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 19 2014, 04:01 PM)
Maybe they c/fwd more income to next year distribution  hmm.gif
as u said previously EPF pays 100% of their profit & don't c/fwd to next year  whistling.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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It's always been PNB's trademark to allocate a portion for future distributions. I guess that's why they can give pretty much consistent returns both in good and bad times.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Mar 19 2014, 04:03 PM)
It's always been PNB's trademark to allocate a portion for future distributions. I guess that's why they can give pretty much consistent returns both in good and bad times.... tongue.gif
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that's why people are queuing to buy those ASx funds if there's any "opening" rolleyes.gif
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Tried twice today and couldn't get any~perhaps is time to let the PM staffs have some rest tongue.gif

last year 6.5% + 0.3%, this year 6.6% + anything??


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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 19 2014, 03:44 PM)
ASNB Declares 6.60 Sen Dividend For ASM Investors

Amanah Saham Nasional Bhd (ASNB), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB), on Wednesday announced a 6.60 sen dividend for a unit of Amanah Saham Malaysia (ASM) for the financial year ending March 31, 2014.

The 6.60 sen income distribution is higher than the 6.50 sen normal dividend and 0.30 sen special dividend per unit paid last year, PNB Chairman Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid said.

He said the income distribution entails RM947.10 million in total payout, up from RM913.85 million last year.

The payment will benefit 530,000 unitholders, who currently hold 14.34 billion ASM units, he told a press conference.

He said that until March 17, 2014, the Fund  has a gross income of RM1.61 billion. Profits from the sale of shares contributed RM544.94 million or 46.8 per cent of gross income.
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Looks like my prediction went well.
It would be pretty impossible for them to give out about 7% due to many factors such as carrying forward their income for the next year just incase their investments don't work well next year.
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When ASG's will be announced?


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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Mar 19 2014, 04:32 PM)
Tried twice today and couldn't get any~perhaps is time to let the PM staffs have some rest  tongue.gif

last year 6.5% + 0.3%, this year 6.6% + anything??
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This week Friday is last chance. next week onwards suspended. 1st April then only can "try"

it's juz "plain" 6.6 sen divvy, no "special" income or bonus yawn.gif
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 19 2014, 04:38 PM)
Looks like my prediction went well.
It would be pretty impossible for them to give out about 7% due to many factors such as carrying forward their income for the next year just incase their investments don't work well next year.
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When ASG's will be announced?
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I think Next week around 25/26 hmm.gif

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I think it's easy for people on the outside to I guess feel that way but those who have or are currently in the finance industry would know how difficult it is to chase for yields. Personally I wouldn't want to be in the fund manager's or investment officer's position.

Such a huge fund to chase yield + ensure that capital is somewhat "protected" due to RM1 structure + ensure enough buffer to carry fwd... It's not as easy as many thing tongue.gif

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 19 2014, 04:01 PM)
Maybe they c/fwd more income to next year distribution  hmm.gif
as u said previously EPF pays 100% of their profit & don't c/fwd to next year  whistling.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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In fact, they do c/f little bit
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Mar 19 2014, 04:28 PM)
0.1% more. Disappointed.
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Disappointing. No KFC tonight then! Only Maggi mee.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 19 2014, 04:58 PM)
Disappointing. No KFC tonight then! Only Maggi mee.
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Plus telur...
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Mar 19 2014, 04:53 PM)
I think it's easy for people on the outside to I guess feel that way but those who have or are currently in the finance industry would know how difficult it is to chase for yields. Personally I wouldn't want to be in the fund manager's or investment officer's position.

Such a huge fund to chase yield + ensure that capital is somewhat "protected" due to RM1 structure + ensure enough buffer to carry fwd... It's not as easy as many thing tongue.gif
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I agree with you. It's not such easy work to do, but we need to remember PNB got some "capital injection" from the gomen in the founding years nod.gif

maybe it's helping a bit to reduce the "stress" of the fund managers / investment officers icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 19 2014, 04:58 PM)
Disappointing. No KFC tonight then! Only Maggi mee.
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0.1% extra dividend doesn't make much difference, at least to me

say you have a fund size of RM10,000. An extra 0.1% would translate into additional RM 10

so don't sweat over it too much


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 19 2014, 05:32 PM)
0.1% extra dividend doesn't make much difference, at least to me

say you have a fund size of RM10,000. An extra 0.1% would translate into additional RM 10

so don't sweat over it too much
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The main point it's still above 6sen/unit & consistent even in "bad" years icon_rolleyes.gif
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Updated: ASNB declares 6.60 sen dividend for ASM investors

PNB President and Chief Executive Officer, Tan Sri Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman, said the income distribution could have been as high as 8.8 sen per unit, but the group decided to carry forward the remaining 2.2 sen per unit, to the next financial year.

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 19 2014, 06:34 PM)
Updated: ASNB declares 6.60 sen dividend for ASM investors

PNB President and Chief Executive Officer, Tan Sri Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman, said the income distribution could have been as high as 8.8 sen per unit, but the group decided to carry forward the remaining 2.2 sen per unit, to the next financial year.

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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=67034474
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Aiyoh, that has cost me a grand KFC dinner!

I do hope they will remember to add this 2.2 to 2015's dividend.

And not mismanage this 2.2 till hilang.

Cheerio.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 19 2014, 06:39 PM)
Aiyoh, that has cost me a grand KFC dinner!

I do hope they will remember to add this 2.2 to 2015's dividend.

And not mismanage this 2.2 till hilang.

Cheerio.
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don't worry lar, they won't songlap the 2.2sen sweat.gif they will add to 2015 dividend icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 19 2014, 06:34 PM)
Updated: ASNB declares 6.60 sen dividend for ASM investors

PNB President and Chief Executive Officer, Tan Sri Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman, said the income distribution could have been as high as 8.8 sen per unit, but the group decided to carry forward the remaining 2.2 sen per unit, to the next financial year.

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Great...
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 19 2014, 06:34 PM)
Updated: ASNB declares 6.60 sen dividend for ASM investors

PNB President and Chief Executive Officer, Tan Sri Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman, said the income distribution could have been as high as 8.8 sen per unit, but the group decided to carry forward the remaining 2.2 sen per unit, to the next financial year.

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Ponder on this ...

If A managed to get a lot of ASM this year, then A will be getting an EXTRA FREE 2.2% dividend in 2015!

Wah, I should go and try everyday and every hour now. Just kidding lah.

But the extra 2.2% is true for the new units bought in 2014. Getting someone's else money in some way.

Cheerio.


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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 19 2014, 07:56 PM)
Ponder on this ...

If A managed to get a lot of ASM this year, then A will be getting an EXTRA  FREE 2.2% dividend in 2015!

Wah, I should go and try everyday and every hour now. Just kidding lah.

But the extra 2.2% is true for the new units bought in 2014. Getting someone's else money in some way.

Cheerio.
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Are u a new investor? PNB has been practicing this carry forward thingy for most of the funds. Next year some % will be carried forward to 2016, etc., etc., etc..
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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 19 2014, 08:27 PM)
Are u a new investor? PNB has been practicing this carry forward thingy for most of the funds. Next year some % will be carried forward to 2016, etc., etc., etc..
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now, one thing being really curious.

See, last year, the do this same thing, this year suppose to be carry last year extra dividend. But they don't. Its not like this year they have deficit and that they cover with last year leftover. But what they said was they have the ability to give out 8.8 instead of 6+. Now where is the last year left over?

I not sure last year sharing the same phenomenon like this year which having extra 2+ or not. But I do know they have this habit.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 19 2014, 04:01 PM)
Maybe they c/fwd more income to next year distribution  hmm.gif
as u said previously EPF pays 100% of their profit & don't c/fwd to next year  whistling.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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this thing (carried forward) are normal to ASNB fund...

However, the customer may loose the dividend (not all customer will maintained the investment, we might withdraw it this year thus will not entitled for the dividend as the req for the dividend is the minimum balance)
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 19 2014, 06:39 PM)
Aiyoh, that has cost me a grand KFC dinner!

I do hope they will remember to add this 2.2 to 2015's dividend.

And not mismanage this 2.2 till hilang.

Cheerio.
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after adding the 2.2%, they will carried forward x.x% next year...trust me...
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C/f formula is (i) b/f @ 1/4/13 + (ii) current yr profits - (iii) current yr dividend = c/f @ 31/3/14

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QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Mar 19 2014, 09:44 PM)
this thing (carried forward) are normal to ASNB fund...

However, the customer may loose the dividend (not all customer will maintained the investment, we might withdraw it this year thus will not entitled for the dividend as the req for the dividend is the minimum balance)
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that's the risk unit-holders need to face if withdraw. That's the bad thing of c/fwd the income to next financial year sad.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 19 2014, 06:34 PM)
Updated: ASNB declares 6.60 sen dividend for ASM investors

PNB President and Chief Executive Officer, Tan Sri Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman, said the income distribution could have been as high as 8.8 sen per unit, but the group decided to carry forward the remaining 2.2 sen per unit, to the next financial year.

Original post
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 19 2014, 10:19 PM)
that's the risk unit-holders need to face if withdraw. That's the bad thing of c/fwd the income to next financial year sad.gif
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I suppose investors can't have double edge sword
Fixed pricing with c/f element -v- variable pricing with exact Nav (w/o fear of sharing profits with new/future investors)
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 19 2014, 10:19 PM)
that's the risk unit-holders need to face if withdraw. That's the bad thing of c/fwd the income to next financial year sad.gif
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I think people are confused with this carry forward thingy. 2.2 sen carried forward to the next financial year does not translate into an absolute amount. Yes such funds retain its intrinsic RM1 value but every time dividends are disbursed, the unit in circulation "increases" due to the fact that all dividends are reinvested automatically into an account holder's account.

So, 6.6 cents for 2013 may cost PNB/ASNB say 950million but to have the same 6.6 cents for 2014 when the fund has somehow "organically" grown due to dividends/compounding effect may cost more than 1billion. That's why I believe that when say 2.2 cents is carried forward, it does not absolutely translate 1 to 1.

Also, it isn't necessary that when a portion of the returns is carried forward to the following year, it'll be used in that particular year. PNB/ASNB is known for it's so called mantra of "consistent and competitive" returns thingy it may have been allocated to a "pool" that will be used when the next economic cycle comes into play.

Given that economic cycles "seem" to come in 7 to 10 year cycles and the last one was the great financial crisis of 2008, I'm of the opinion that whatever savings brought forward could easily be used up during an economic downturn given the fact that the fund sizes are huge (mostly in billions) and also the fact that whatever happens behind the scenes, PNB/ASNB is required to honour the RM1 valuation even IF the actual NAV for funds during an economic crisis may actually be less than RM1.

Just my 2 cents... tongue.gif
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Assume ASM didn't generate any income in FY15, ASNB can declare 2.07% dividend based on 2.2% c/f sum
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QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Mar 19 2014, 09:44 PM)
this thing (carried forward) are normal to ASNB fund...

However, the customer may loose the dividend (not all customer will maintained the investment, we might withdraw it this year thus will not entitled for the dividend as the req for the dividend is the minimum balance)
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But when u first invested, u also gained from the amt carried forward from previous year, so it is even.
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Mar 20 2014, 08:48 AM)
I think people are confused with this carry forward thingy. 2.2 sen carried forward to the next financial year does not translate into an absolute amount. Yes such funds retain its intrinsic RM1 value but every time dividends are disbursed, the unit in circulation "increases" due to the fact that all dividends are reinvested automatically into an account holder's account.

So, 6.6 cents for 2013 may cost PNB/ASNB say 950million but to have the same 6.6 cents for 2014 when the fund has somehow "organically" grown due to dividends/compounding effect may cost more than 1billion. That's why I believe that when say 2.2 cents is carried forward, it does not absolutely translate 1 to 1.

Also, it isn't necessary that when a portion of the returns is carried forward to the following year, it'll be used in that particular year. PNB/ASNB is known for it's so called mantra of "consistent and competitive" returns thingy it may have been allocated to a "pool" that will be used when the next economic cycle comes into play.

Given that economic cycles "seem" to come in 7 to 10 year cycles and the last one was the great financial crisis of 2008, I'm of the opinion that whatever savings brought forward could easily be used up during an economic downturn given the fact that the fund sizes are huge (mostly in billions) and also the fact that whatever happens behind the scenes, PNB/ASNB is required to honour the RM1 valuation even IF the actual NAV for funds during an economic crisis may actually be less than RM1.

Just my 2 cents... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 20 2014, 09:15 AM)
Assume ASM didn't generate any income in FY15, ASNB can declare 2.07% dividend based on 2.2% c/f sum
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don't say like that sad.gif It's make me kinda sad to see No income for FY15 cry.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 20 2014, 02:56 PM)
don't say like that sad.gif  It's make me kinda sad to see No income for FY15  cry.gif
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Wat I meant was if investors keep 2.2% this year, they won't receive same % next year
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 20 2014, 02:59 PM)
Wat I meant was if investors keep 2.2% this year, they won't receive same % next year
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yeah, it's because the fund size have increased via reinvestment of dividend nod.gif
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Althought PNB didn't give out a return as what has been expected by many over here which is at around7%, we should still be happy with the dividend rate that they have declared as its still higher than kwsp's rate. So yeah I guess we should be happy with it.
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 20 2014, 03:12 PM)
Althought PNB didn't give out a return as what has been expected by many over here which is at around 7%, we should still be happy with the dividend rate that they have declared as its still higher than kwsp's rate. So yeah I guess we should be happy with it.
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Agreed. It's also higher than FD rate given by most banks rclxms.gif
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Status ASB2 diumum awal bulan depan
http://www.bharian.com.my/bharian/articles...ndepan/Article/

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ASB2 yang bakal menjadi dana ke-12 diuruskan PNB menerusi anak syarikatnya, Amanah Saham Nasional Bhd (ASNB) itu, disasarkan kepada generasi muda dan pemegang unit saham Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB) yang sudah mencapai had maksimum pelaburan

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Kami menjangkakan kadar akan ditawarkan adalah normal, tetapi tetap memberi pulangan pelaburan yang baik kepada pemegang unit. Kami juga masih mengekalkan imbangan antara risiko dan pulangan untuk ASB2

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 20 2014, 06:18 PM)
ASB2 yang bakal menjadi dana ke-12 diuruskan PNB menerusi anak syarikatnya, Amanah Saham Nasional Bhd (ASNB) itu, disasarkan kepada generasi muda dan pemegang unit saham Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB) yang sudah mencapai had maksimum pelaburan
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u know what category is that? young, city dwellers who are likely opposition voters hmm.gif


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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 20 2014, 03:12 PM)
Althought PNB didn't give out a return as what has been expected by many over here which is at around7%, we should still be happy with the dividend rate that they have declared as its still higher than kwsp's rate. So yeah I guess we should be happy with it.
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Agreed
I suppose EPF is better coz their exposure in equity is lower -v- ASM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Mar 20 2014, 06:21 PM)
u know what category is that? young, city dwellers who are likely opposition voters  hmm.gif
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Maybe got 2 type of account. One for below 40 & another those already max ASB? hmm.gif rclxub.gif

and yeah, they're focusing to those pro-PR youngster & city people nod.gif

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 20 2014, 06:18 PM)
what is frustration that such benefit again not entitled by the non-bumis...

it has been a very frustrating month for me to keep trying then get only so limited units..
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Mar 21 2014, 03:57 PM)
what is frustration that such benefit again not entitled by the non-bumis...

it has been a very frustrating month for me to keep trying then get only so limited units..
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I know the feeling sad.gif it's kinda frustrated to know that the units are always available to bumi while we always "trying" with some hope of getting some "left-overs" limited units cry.gif

Anyway I always stay positive & hoping that Jibby would "open" his heart, understand our frustration & ask PNB to launch new fund or "increase" current ASx fund for subscription smile.gif

I got the feeling even the PNB staff are silently "watching" & reading all the comments & posting here hmm.gif

Another thing, don't "try" everyday unless the agents are juz next door or walking distance from your working place / home icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 21 2014, 04:12 PM)
I know the feeling  sad.gif  it's kinda frustrated to know that the units are always available to bumi while we always "trying" with some hope of getting some "left-overs" limited units  cry.gif

Anyway I always stay positive & hoping that Jibby would "open" his heart, understand our frustration & ask PNB to launch new fund or "increase" current ASx fund for subscription  smile.gif

I got the feeling even the PNB staff are silently "watching" & reading all the comments & posting here  hmm.gif

Another thing, don't "try" everyday unless the agents are juz next door or walking distance from your working place / home  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yape, i try when i am on the move outside since the work is always needed me to go out all the time..

I really hoped that there are some miracles that there would be new fixed price funds to be launched for the non-bumi to participate also..

I give up to try for this month and hope that the next month will have brighter chance.. nod.gif
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Mar 21 2014, 04:39 PM)
Yape, i try when i am on the move outside since the work is always needed me to go out all the time..

I really hoped that there are some miracles that there would be new fixed price funds to be launched for the non-bumi to participate also..

I give up to try for this month and hope that the next month will have brighter chance..  nod.gif
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juz hope after the ASB2 announcement, got another good news coming soon (maybe additional ASM units for subscription) sweat.gif
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Mar 21 2014, 03:57 PM)
what is frustration that such benefit again not entitled by the non-bumis...

it has been a very frustrating month for me to keep trying then get only so limited units..
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Understand yo feelings
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 21 2014, 04:47 PM)
juz hope after the ASB2 announcement, got another good news coming soon (maybe additional ASM units for subscription)  sweat.gif
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I manage to get 1k at one shot. This is after several times of trying over last 2 months. Thank u for whoever that sell the 1k as1m non-bumi lot.

Dont give up as sometimes u may have luck.

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QUOTE(belibeli @ Mar 21 2014, 06:15 PM)
I manage to get 1k at one shot. This is after several times of trying over last 2 months. Thank u for whoever that sell the 1k as1m non-bumi lot.

Dont give up as sometimes u may have luck.
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I manage to get some ASW2020 (rm1.6k). Thanks to those who sold their ASW2020 units rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Sarah Jessica @ Mar 22 2014, 01:03 PM)
I manage to get some ASW2020 (rm1.6k).  Thanks to those who sold their ASW2020 units  rclxms.gif
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Congratulation!

You got them today - Saturday?

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QUOTE(Sarah Jessica @ Mar 22 2014, 01:03 PM)
I manage to get some ASW2020 (rm1.6k).  Thanks to those who sold their ASW2020 units  rclxms.gif
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mind sharing how much you have in total?
i have about 90 for 2020 smile.gif
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mind sharing how much you have in total?
i have about 90 for 2020 smile.gif
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U have RM90 or RM90k?
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QUOTE(Berkshire Breakaway @ Mar 22 2014, 06:57 PM)
mind sharing how much you have in total?
i have about 90 for 2020 smile.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 22 2014, 01:30 PM)
Congratulation!

You got them today - Saturday?

Cheerio.
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Saturday can do ASNB transaction? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Mar 22 2014, 08:26 PM)
Saturday can do ASNB transaction?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 22 2014, 08:56 PM)
I suppose transaction done earlier but report today
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Yup, that's make more sense icon_rolleyes.gif
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U have RM90 or RM90k?
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