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post Jul 13 2016, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(kaxe113 @ Jul 13 2016, 09:32 AM)
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pls brief us about ur broadcast solution
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Theres a compelling difference between broadcast and streaming
What is discussed here is purely streaming with no reference to broadcast
As per house rules I am not at the liberty to share the solution for streaming.
Furthermore it's catered for tier 1 and 2 broadcasters ie. those you see on live news, breaking news and live events
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QUOTE(babysiew @ Jul 13 2016, 09:19 AM)
Just got my minix neo u1. loving it!
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May I ask where did you get this and how much you paid for it?
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QUOTE(soyusa @ Jul 13 2016, 10:18 AM)
May I ask where did you get this and how much you paid for it?
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Hi I got it from here:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3889310/+40
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post Jul 13 2016, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(babysiew @ Jul 13 2016, 10:21 AM)
Thanks pal. thumbsup.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 12 2016, 10:57 AM)
yes, majority of users do not care much about audio since only tv used, no home theater.

i happen to be one who will insist on the best audio available.

there are basically 3 types of audio - lpcm 2.0 (stereo), dolby/dts 5.1 (digital audio), dolby truehd/dtshdma 5.1/7.1 (hd audio).

there is a fourth type getting popular now - dolby atmos/dts:x - most advanced hd audio on the planet.

"pass thru" means the player will not downgrade any audio type but able to allow all of it to go on to the AVR untouched or whatever amplification device used.

a device that cannot pass thru will downgrade the audio, i.e. dts to lpcm or dtshdma to dts.
your case - smart tv + home theater? does the tv has digital audio output or arc? is your your home theater capable of hd audio? (i assume it can do at least do dd/dts.)

if your tv can do digital output:
player->tv via hdmi for video and audio
tv arc or digital output->home theater for dd/dts 5.1 (u need hdmi or toslink or coaxial for this ), not with red/white rca. read your tv manual.

if yr tv cannot do digital output:
player->AVR (home theater) via hdmi
AVR->tv via hdmi for video
AVR/speakers will give u dd/dts 5.1; if yr AVR has hd audio capability, will give ddtruehd/dtshdma if the files played are such.
thanks for sharing the video. unless i understood the guy wrong, i am appalled! shakehead.gif

he's saying minix u1 native player CANNOT do even dd/dts?

he's also saying minix is not paying licensing fee for u1 but is for x8h plus.
it is common devices can pass thru up to dd/dts only.

however, there are some brands that have for years, provided ddtruehd/dtshdma in their models. i have 6 yr, 4 yr old boxes that has it.

some latest boxes now come with dolby atmos and dts:x. e.g.: himedia q10pro/q5pro:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2807510/+360#bottom
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i use ARC connect tv <> AVR
all my sources, e.g minix, ps4, bluray, hypptv go into AVR
is my connection correct?
or
i need to connect as per above u mention tvbox into tv. then tv into avr. or is it a same thing?
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post Jul 13 2016, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Jul 13 2016, 01:09 PM)
i use ARC connect tv <> AVR
all my sources, e.g minix, ps4, bluray, hypptv go into AVR
is my connection correct?
or
i need to connect as per above u mention tvbox into tv. then tv into avr. or is it a same thing?
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i don't quite follow...

if minix, ps4, bluray, hypptv go into AVR, then u just do avr hdmi output to one of the tv hdmi inputs for video.

AVR->speakers will give u audio.

no need ARC.

ARC = Audio Return Channel.

ARC is for audio from TV to return to AVR, then to speakers, which you don't need.

ARC is useful for apps directly installed on smart TV or playback with TV usb port.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jul 13 2016, 02:06 PM
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post Jul 13 2016, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Jul 13 2016, 01:09 PM)
i use ARC connect tv <> AVR
all my sources, e.g minix, ps4, bluray, hypptv go into AVR
is my connection correct?
or
i need to connect as per above u mention tvbox into tv. then tv into avr. or is it a same thing?
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Correct me if wrong, it appears your AVR is the type capable of multiple HDMI inputs and at least on HDMI out? Means, it accepts video and audio connections, processes the signals, sends video off to the TV and audio off to the speakers... Delivered sound depends on source file and speaker configurations... If so, then leave as is.

As AVFAN explained... HDMI-ARC tech is mainly for routing audio from the TV (inbuilt) audio sources like USB playback, digital TV channels and TV apps (i.e. Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, etc) to say a connected AVR/Home Theater that supports the HDMI-ARC feature. Useful in cases where the Home Theater/AVR does not boast HDMI inputs.

This post has been edited by voncrane: Jul 13 2016, 02:46 PM
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post Jul 15 2016, 04:21 AM

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Guys. Thanks for your help so far. Despite the price temptation (on gearbest.com) from other TVB like Beelink Mini MXIII and MX3, it has come down to a Split decision between the U1 & either the Q5 Pro or Q10 Pro. One reason for this is I rather pay double or triple the price to have a future proof device, although I am aware their specs are really similar using s905 chips and at least quadcore 450 gpu's.

AVFAN: Just to clarify once again, latest HiMedia Q5Pro is 4th Gen? And it is able to passthrough all audio quality regardless of source right? For example even if I am not using Kodi, and streaming from other players/apps. (AVFAN please confirm)

voncrane: For the U1, it ONLY passesthru if using Kodi and not using other players/apps?

As you might sense, I might be confused on what Kodi & an app really is.

After making a decision, I would like to compile a list of apps needed. I've read the thread and saw this information scattered couple of places. However, if you all do not mind, let us get together to create an up to date list based on all of you users.

My suggestion is to run the list in the below format:
Genre: M=Movies; N=News; D=Documentary (Natgeo, Discovery); S=Sports; L=Lifestyle(AXN, Travel, etc)
Video quality: HD1= Only plays 480p; HD2= minimum 720p; HD3= 1080p;

For example:
- Popcorn: M; HD3

In any case, please do let me know if making the list is not a good idea as the apps keep changing/updating etc.

Thanks, again everyone!

This post has been edited by NotTheOne: Jul 15 2016, 04:25 AM
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post Jul 15 2016, 05:54 AM

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QUOTE(NotTheOne @ Jul 15 2016, 04:21 AM)
Guys. Thanks for your help so far. Despite the price temptation (on gearbest.com) from other TVB like Beelink Mini MXIII and MX3, it has come down to a Split decision between the U1 & either the Q5 Pro or Q10 Pro. One reason for this is I rather pay double or triple the price to have a future proof device, although I am aware their specs are really similar using s905 chips and at least quadcore 450 gpu's.

AVFAN: Just to clarify once again, latest HiMedia Q5Pro is 4th Gen? And it is able to passthrough all audio quality regardless of source right? For example even if I am not using Kodi, and streaming from other players/apps. (AVFAN please confirm)

voncrane: For the U1, it ONLY passesthru if using Kodi and not using other players/apps?

As you might sense, I might be confused on what Kodi & an app really is.

After making a decision, I would like to compile a list of apps needed. I've read the thread and saw this information scattered couple of places. However, if you all do not mind, let us get together to create an up to date list based on all of you users.

My suggestion is to run the list in the below format:
Genre: M=Movies; N=News; D=Documentary (Natgeo, Discovery); S=Sports; L=Lifestyle(AXN, Travel, etc)
Video quality: HD1= Only plays 480p; HD2= minimum 720p; HD3= 1080p;

For example:
- Popcorn: M; HD3

In any case, please do let me know if making the list is not a good idea as the apps keep changing/updating etc.

Thanks, again everyone!
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Apps are like programs you install.. Likened to installing software on a PC... On MS Windows (exe, msi, etc).. On Mac OS X (dmg).. On Android (apk).

In the Android app world, especially with illegitimate apps, things change and rapidly. Hence compiling such a list would only be redundant.. Besides, there's the search button and it's always better when newbies actually conduct research into the box they intend to buy and services to subscribe to. This is to ensure it is widely understood that buying an android box does NOT equal instant entertainment satisfaction. It isn't like getting an Astro or Hypptv box, these are dedicated, legit and primed boxes... There have been cases in the past where some folks bought a box claiming or thinking just cuz it shipped with some funny apps, or installed the app's themselves, that such services will be there forever and then when the services disappear (no doubt due to their illegality), these ill-informed users/buyers cry foul, like the world owes them free entertainment. So it's much better to stick to the idea of if you can find it and your box can play it? Profit! Else,....... Self explanatory.

As per questions about the U1, you'd have to first understand the concept of audio passthrough technology.. I suggest you Google or watch some YouTube explaining it.. Passthrough is not limited to just Kodi, there are other media apps like Mx Player that can passthrough audio. However, Kodi is a media powerhouse (one that other media apps can only dream to match) and once you've fallen in love with it, you'd prefer to use it all the time. Due to the nature of passthrough technology on Android and the Neo U1's hardware & firmware... Currently, DTS-HD MA audio passthrough is only available using the app XBMC for Minix... The current method the Minix team used to achieve this will be implemented in the future with Kodi V17..

Do spend some time in the Kodi Official Discussion Thread to get a general idea of what Kodi is..

This post has been edited by voncrane: Jul 15 2016, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE(NotTheOne @ Jul 15 2016, 04:21 AM)
AVFAN: Just to clarify once again, latest HiMedia Q5Pro is 4th Gen? And it is able to passthrough all audio quality regardless of source right? For example even if I am not using Kodi, and streaming from other players/apps. (AVFAN please confirm)

Video quality: HD1= Only plays 480p; HD2= minimum 720p; HD3= 1080p;
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i do not know if himedia q5pro is 4th or 5th gen...

himedia like all box makers have multiple ranges, can use diff chipsets over the years.

not sure what u mean by "regardless of source". i am primarily referring to usb playback. whatever audio track is in the file played, that's what it will pass thru to yr AVR.

i assure u current himedia models have firmware and codecs that can do dtshdma and ddtruehd using native app. i.e. himedia's own media center. it also has a mini-bluray menu, i.e. u can navigate easier with chapters, playlist, audio and sub options. within this media center, can also do networking stuff like samba. no need to use other players like kodi or mx or vs or plex - i have tried them but none is as good as the native player. the explanation for that is himedia started as a pure media player co., will not stinge on latest video and audio codecs/licensing.

q5ii going back 4 years can do dtshdma, ddtruehd. (video 1080p)
q16 going back 2 years can do dtshdma, ddtruehd, dd atmos. (video 2160p, 24/30hz)
current q10pro/q5pro can do dtshma, ddtruehd, ddatmos, dts:x. (video 2160p, 60hz)


as for video quality, can stick to the common description:

360, 480, 576, i.e. <720p = SD
720p, 1080p, 1440p = HD
2160p = UHD or 4K



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post Jul 15 2016, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 15 2016, 10:56 AM)
i do not know if himedia q5pro is 4th or 5th gen...

himedia like all box makers have multiple ranges, can use diff chipsets over the years.

not sure what u mean by "regardless of source". i am primarily referring to usb playback. whatever audio track is in the file played, that's what it will pass thru to yr AVR.

i assure u current himedia models have firmware and codecs that can do dtshdma and ddtruehd using native app. i.e. himedia's own media center. it also has a mini-bluray menu, i.e. u can navigate easier with chapters, playlist, audio and sub options. within this media center, can also do networking stuff like samba. no need to use other players like kodi or mx or vs or plex - i have tried them but none is as good as the native player. the explanation for that is himedia started as a pure media player co., will not stinge on latest video and audio codecs/licensing.

q5ii going back 4 years can do dtshdma, ddtruehd. (video 1080p)
q16 going back 2 years can do dtshdma, ddtruehd, dd atmos. (video 2160p, 24/30hz)
current q10pro/q5pro can do dtshma, ddtruehd, ddatmos, dts:x. (video 2160p, 60hz)
as for video quality, can stick to the common description:

360, 480, 576, i.e. <720p = SD
720p, 1080p, 1440p = HD
2160p = UHD or 4K
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The latest Himedia Q5/10 Pro also support the HDR10 format. Tested on my HDR TV. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cyrobytes @ Jul 15 2016, 11:27 AM)
The latest Himedia Q5/10 Pro also support the HDR10 format. Tested on my HDR TV.  rclxms.gif
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nice!
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Hi all,

My friend would like to get a good android tv box budget around RM600, he will use it to watch the HK Drama and korea Drama mainly, but will also watch other channel around.

Do you guys know which might suit him best?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jul 12 2016, 06:24 PM)
Flash sale of the mini m8s II with S905X chip and Android 6.0 for RM150+... Tempting...

http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_390234.html
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Haha... just logged, bought this just now at USD39.18 (normal delivery+tracking). rclxms.gif

Should be RM160 after conversion with Mastercard hopefully.... Anyway, just itchy biggrin.gif to see how fast is this device incl pic quality with this new processor against existing Himedia Q16 Quad i'm using which has been pretty reliable coming into almost 1.5 yrs old now tongue.gif

Only thing is that it does NOT support 5.1, DTS, passthru etc etc.... mega_shok.gif

Will see how it goes a month from now whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif


Btw did yours came with Eng settings by default? I forgot to put in a request for it to be setup in English prior to shipping bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(GuyM @ Jul 15 2016, 07:39 PM)
Haha... just logged, bought this just now at USD39.18 (normal delivery+tracking). rclxms.gif

Should be RM160 after conversion with Mastercard hopefully.... Anyway, just itchy biggrin.gif  to see how fast is this device incl pic quality with this new processor against existing Himedia Q16 Quad i'm using which has been pretty reliable coming into almost 1.5 yrs old now tongue.gif

Only thing is that it does NOT support 5.1, DTS, passthru etc etc.... mega_shok.gif

Will see how it goes a month from now whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
Btw did yours came with Eng settings by default? I forgot to put in a request for it to be setup in English prior to shipping bangwall.gif
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I'm using the beelink minimxiii atm... Default is in English...

My colleague using the mini m8s and it's default in English... Got poisoned by him to explore android box...

I've ordered the mini m8s ii yesterday, and gb have already shipped it out today...
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jul 15 2016, 08:29 PM)
I'm using the beelink minimxiii atm... Default is in English...

My colleague using the mini m8s and it's default in English... Got poisoned by him to explore android box...

I've ordered the mini m8s ii yesterday, and gb have already shipped it out today...
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Fwar.....

Buying to placed it elsewhere or.....?
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QUOTE(mrsu @ Jul 15 2016, 04:28 PM)
Hi all,

My friend would like to get a good android tv box budget around RM600, he will use it to watch the HK Drama and korea Drama mainly, but will also watch other channel around.

Do you guys know which might suit him best?

Thanks!
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There are a few options for your friend... I suggest, you or pal read a couple pages back for recommendations... Come back when you have a particular box in mind.

QUOTE(GuyM @ Jul 15 2016, 07:39 PM)
Haha... just logged, bought this just now at USD39.18 (normal delivery+tracking). rclxms.gif

Should be RM160 after conversion with Mastercard hopefully.... Anyway, just itchy biggrin.gif  to see how fast is this device incl pic quality with this new processor against existing Himedia Q16 Quad i'm using which has been pretty reliable coming into almost 1.5 yrs old now tongue.gif

Only thing is that it does NOT support 5.1, DTS, passthru etc etc.... mega_shok.gif

Will see how it goes a month from now whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
Btw did yours came with Eng settings by default? I forgot to put in a request for it to be setup in English prior to shipping bangwall.gif
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Really dude!!... At that price point, you can't possibly expect such... In fact, the box appears to be over-delivering... smile.gif ... Note that HD audio such as DTS or DD licenses need to be paid for every manufactured box.. Else they face a lawsuit... Hence cost.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 15 2016, 10:12 PM)
There are a few options for your friend... I suggest, you or pal read a couple pages back for recommendations... Come back when you have a particular box in mind.
Really dude!!... At that price point, you can't possibly expect such... In fact, the box appears to be over-delivering...  smile.gif ... Note that HD audio such as DTS or DD licenses need to be paid for every manufactured box.. Else they face a lawsuit... Hence cost.
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Haha....

Am I reading correctly, it should comes with it? Should have 7.1
http://blog.allinmini.com/amlogic-s905x-ch...ifications.html


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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jul 15 2016, 08:29 PM)
I'm using the beelink minimxiii atm... Default is in English...

My colleague using the mini m8s and it's default in English... Got poisoned by him to explore android box...

I've ordered the mini m8s ii yesterday, and gb have already shipped it out today...
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Later you will be accused of being a seller since you buy more units
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QUOTE(GuyM @ Jul 15 2016, 10:24 PM)
Haha....

Am I reading correctly, it should comes with it? Should have 7.1
http://blog.allinmini.com/amlogic-s905x-ch...ifications.html
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7.1 = Speaker configurations... Even stereo sound can be pushed through the 8 speakers...
DTS/DD/DTS Neo:X/DTS-HD/DTS-HD MA, etc = Examples of surround sound formats.

Not the same.... Don't be fooled by clever marketing... tongue.gif

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