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rollinginsodeep
post Oct 10 2023, 11:09 AM

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is there any of you guys have actually face a JPJ roadblock where they actually measure you window's tint using device or what?

Or they just measure it using their gaze only?
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:13 AM

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yeah . i was about to ask the same question.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Bombgen @ Oct 10 2023, 10:46 AM)
Ah its true like this. And one more thing, is it normal that it interfere with rfid on the front windshield? I got no problem driving through rfid lane before installing CR70 at the windshield, but after i seems to not detect..wondering if its because of the tint?
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Why your RFID is place inside the windscreen? Should not it be place outside?

And yes, 3M Crystalline will likely interfere with both smart tag and RFID.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Oct 10 2023, 11:15 AM)
Why your RFID is place inside the windscreen? Should not it be place outside?

And yes, 3M Crystalline will likely interfere with both smart tag and RFID.
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No its on the outside..wondering if it can interfere in any way..
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Bombgen @ Oct 10 2023, 12:32 PM)
No its on the outside..wondering if it can interfere in any way..
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i have CR70 and installed the RFID inside the windscreen (means rfid is behind the tint, in fact it is behind the black sunshade) and can pass through all rfid lanes with no issue.
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post Oct 10 2023, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Bombgen @ Oct 10 2023, 10:46 AM)
Ah its true like this. And one more thing, is it normal that it interfere with rfid on the front windshield? I got no problem driving through rfid lane before installing CR70 at the windshield, but after i seems to not detect..wondering if its because of the tint?
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So far Crystalline can use rfid no issue. Rfid still works install behind roadtax using crystalline no issue(inside car). But need drive slowly.

Rfid Windscreen exterior and headlamp no issues at all.
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post Oct 10 2023, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(rollinginsodeep @ Oct 10 2023, 11:09 AM)
is there any of you guys have actually face a JPJ roadblock where they actually measure you window's tint using device or what?

Or they just measure it using their gaze only?
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So far I have not encountered any jpj roadblock (touch wood) although in the news it was reported since 2019 there were many offenders who violated the tint regulations were caught and fined.

The most recent announcement of RM2k fine or jail sounds serious and if I were caught at the road block, the tint on my car would fail the VLT test although I picked the lightest one available. As a matter of fact when I was doing the tint on my vehicle recently, I was surprised the guys before me picked VLT 32% for the front windscreen and 17% VLT for front side.


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post Oct 11 2023, 11:35 AM

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i think ,normal car glass without tint already not 100% vlt

so even follow jpj spec tint, final vlt will be below the spec. does jpj have a "range" of vlt?
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post Oct 11 2023, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 11 2023, 11:35 AM)
i think ,normal car glass without tint already not 100% vlt
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Yes. that is one of the reasons it is risky to pick a tint with VLT that is very close to the permissible values allowed by JPJ. For instance, if permissible VLT for front and front side are 70% and 50% respectively, even if you pick a tint which is very close to the values, say VLT 72% or 52% for instance, most likely during test it will fail. From what I was told, it is safe to pick a tint which is about 10% higher just to be sure since the original bare windscreen is not 100% VLT. Say for front windscreen, picking a tint of VLT 80% instead of 70% would be safe, and for front side, picking a tint of VLT 60% instead of 50% would be safe.

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post Oct 12 2023, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Oct 11 2023, 01:12 PM)
Yes. that is one of the reasons it is risky to pick a tint with VLT that is very close to the permissible values allowed by JPJ. For instance, if permissible VLT for front and front side are 70% and 50% respectively, even if you pick a tint which is very close to the values, say VLT 72% or 52% for instance, most likely during test it will fail. From what I was told, it is safe to pick a tint which is about 10% higher just to be sure since the original bare windscreen is not 100% VLT. Say for front windscreen, picking a tint of VLT 80% instead of 70% would be safe, and for front side, picking a tint of VLT 60% instead of 50% would be safe.
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i see, the issue here would be many shop's highest vlt tint is 70%, therefore, need to go with no windshield tint to be safe.
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post Oct 12 2023, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 12 2023, 09:14 AM)
i see, the issue here would be many shop's highest vlt tint is 70%, therefore, need to go with no windshield tint to be safe.
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No windshield hot. Dashboard can become poor condition at 3rd year onward if no tint and daily park outside. Take VLT follow regulations, based on JPJ roadblock they just random, visual choose for tint that is darker etc. Unless u do Puspakom name change, sure they will check VLT via devices, so take the tint + windscreen vlt reading
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post Oct 12 2023, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 11 2023, 12:35 PM)
i think ,normal car glass without tint already not 100% vlt

so even follow jpj spec tint, final vlt will be below the spec. does jpj have a "range" of vlt?
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its always the same VLT. 70% front, 50% front side and any number for the rest of the windows.

the problem is, most people relate VLT for tint film only, not the window darkness (glass + tint film).

its the interpretation.
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post Oct 12 2023, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 12 2023, 10:14 AM)
i see, the issue here would be many shop's highest vlt tint is 70%, therefore, need to go with no windshield tint to be safe.
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coz most high vlt tints are less effective in blocking heat (low IRR & TSER). 70% vlt film is the min to be effective.

3m and active-e tint do provide > 80% vlt film (which fws will end up getting > 70% vlt) but it is as good as no tint haha
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post Oct 12 2023, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 12 2023, 09:45 AM)
No windshield hot. Dashboard can become poor condition at 3rd year onward if no tint and daily park outside. Take VLT follow regulations, based on JPJ roadblock they just random, visual choose for tint that is darker etc. Unless u do Puspakom name change, sure they will check VLT via devices, so take the tint + windscreen vlt reading
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agree with the dashboard getting wrecked under sun daily.

with the news on stricter inspection, probably they will start using measuring devices at roadblocks (maybe not all), thus it becomes a game of roulette that they won't choose your car to test with the actual device.

at roadblocks, gotta pray hard not to kena "lottery" .



QUOTE(overfloe @ Oct 12 2023, 09:50 AM)
its always the same VLT. 70% front, 50% front side and any number for the rest of the windows.

the problem is, most people relate VLT for tint film only, not the window darkness (glass + tint film).

its the interpretation.
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agree with this, all this while the interpretation is for film only.

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that's why, thinking of going no tint for windshield and 60% or 70% sides, to be safe, since modern car glass itself vlt is not 100% (maybe 90% or 80% vlt already) sad.gif


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post Oct 12 2023, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 12 2023, 09:14 AM)
i see, the issue here would be many shop's highest vlt tint is 70%, therefore, need to go with no windshield tint to be safe.
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Actually there is but not all brands. Just a random check, Llumar has tints with high VLT, Airblue AIR80 with VLT 78%, Airblue AIR90 with VLT 86%. The problem is most people are less inclined to pick these tints as the heat rejection is minimal. As we all know the purpose of the tint is to reject heat as much as possible to keep the car cool, so by going with a high VLT tint which makes little difference, most people might be inclined to pick one which does not meet JPJ's requirement.

The tint on my front and side front windscreens used to be VLT 59% and 40%, but now it's replaced with VLT 63% and 53%. The front windscreen is still below 70% so it will fail the test if there's an operasi. I guess most people don't care by going way below the permitted values. However, even for abiding drivers who picked a tint with VLT 70% and 50% for front and front side, chances are high the tint will fail the VLT test too as mentioned earlier.
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post Oct 12 2023, 12:28 PM

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Has anyone had experience with JPJ testing your vehicle at the roadblock? Would appreciate if anyone can share the experience if it's a Pass or Fail, and the VLT of your tint.
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post Oct 12 2023, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 11 2023, 11:35 AM)
i think ,normal car glass without tint already not 100% vlt

so even follow jpj spec tint, final vlt will be below the spec. does jpj have a "range" of vlt?
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You're right!

This was my Puspakom report for a Perodua Kenari.
Front - no tint
Sides - Clear security film.

Results:
HDPN- 78% HDPN S.KANAN- 68% HDPN S.KIRI- 68%

So best to remove tints before inspections or high chance of failing with any tinting film.
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post Oct 13 2023, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerfy @ Oct 12 2023, 12:37 PM)
You're right!

This was my Puspakom report for a Perodua Kenari.
Front - no tint
Sides - Clear security film.

Results:
HDPN- 78% HDPN S.KANAN- 68% HDPN S.KIRI- 68%

So best to remove tints before inspections or high chance of failing with any tinting film.
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So the front windscreen without any tint is already VLT 78%? That's something new to me. If that's the case, theoretically only a VLT 92% tint will work to get the VLT to 70%. In other words, any tint that is 91% or lower on your Kenari will cause the VLT to dip below 70% and thus fail the Puspakom or JPJ roadblock test.
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post Oct 13 2023, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Oct 13 2023, 07:21 AM)
So the front windscreen without any tint is already VLT 78%? That's something new to me. If that's the case, theoretically only a VLT 92% tint will work to get the VLT to 70%. In other words, any tint that is 91% or lower on your Kenari will cause the VLT to dip below 70% and thus fail the Puspakom or JPJ roadblock test.
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Bought a 2016 HRV from a neighbour few years ago, tore off the tint from front windscreen, puspakom test 76%.

No point installing any tint if worried about roadblock.
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post Oct 13 2023, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Oct 13 2023, 03:39 PM)
Bought a 2016 HRV from a neighbour few years ago, tore off the tint from front windscreen, puspakom test 76%.

No point installing any tint if worried about roadblock.
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So I guess most windscreens bare without any tint is in the range of VLT 75% to 80%.

I've not encountered any roadblock for the past 20+ years in nabbing vehicles with dark tints. Touch wood. I have seen such operasi before but my car wasn't stopped. But with the most recent announcement by the government in 2019 it was mentioned RM2k fine or jail, so if they take it seriously this time I presume a lot of vehicles will not pass in a JPJ roadblock.

That's the reason I am asking if anyone here has experienced his/her vehicle being tested in a JPJ roadblock. I will surely not put any tint on the front windscreen if JPJ is going all out on the operasi. For the front side windscreens, it is still ok to pick one with VLT 75% I guess since the limit is VLT 50% Better than nothing.

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