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SportyHandling
post Oct 23 2014, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(kwhopE_ @ Oct 17 2014, 05:22 PM)
Hi, I'm getting my ford foucus titanium plus soon. Can I get any quote for tinted? I have been quote RM2k for VKool Elite. But I not too sure about the pricing and also interested with Huper Optik too instead of VKool..
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I am a previous V-kool Elite and now have my Ford Focus Titanium tinted with Huper Optik Sech60/C40. No doubt V-Kool Elite is more costly than the Huper Optik combination, but if you can afford it I would suggest to go for V-kool as I find the V-kool to be cooler than Huper Optik. Price difference is only RM500+/- if I"m not mistaken, not that much. But if you want to save the RM500 bucks then Huper Optik is also not bad, just not as good as V-kool in my experience.

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post Nov 4 2014, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(RhythmYun @ Nov 3 2014, 11:31 PM)
Hi guys, getting a new Iriz soon and would like to know more about the pricing for tinting solution.

Here's are 4 different options I'm looking at, obviously the more $$$ the better. But if someone can explain the pros and cons or which is the best bang for the buck for these 4 options, I will super appreciate also la =)

Budget 1k-1.5k, I not sure whether this is realistic or not cause first time buying tint =x

A. $$$$
- 4 side windows, 4 mil safety tint, average/normal heat rejection OK already.
- Front window, maybe slightly better heat rejection
- Rear window, normal heat rejection OK already

B. $$$
- 2 front side windows, 4 mil safety tint, average/normal heat rejection.
- 2 rear side windows, normal tint, average heat rejection
- Front and rear windows, average heat rejection OK already.

C. $$
- 2 front side windows, 4 mil safety tint, average/normal heat rejection.
- 2 rear side windows, normal tint, average heat rejection
- Front windows, average heat rejection OK already.
- Rear windows, budget option or no need tint also can.

D. $
- 2 front side windows, 4 mil safety tint, average/normal heat rejection.
- Front windows, average heat rejection OK already.
- Rear side and rear windows no need tint

If the budget too low let me know and suggest me with some solutions yea =D

Oh ya, no need dark dark 1, heat and safety is the concern here. Preferably branded brand also, is RayTech possible with this budget?

Thanks yea all sifu!
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Don't need to be so complicated. Just get a few quotation based on your budget and then decide. I only have experience with Huper Optik and V-Kool. Huper Optik may fit into your budget at RM1.5k+/-. It is good, but V-kool is better in heat rejection at higher VLT, though it is more costly and above your budget I think. In order to get better heat rejection with Huper Optik you may need to go with lower VLT which fails JPJ requirements.

No experience with other brands.

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post Nov 6 2014, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(RhythmYun @ Nov 4 2014, 09:38 PM)
Thanks for your suggestion. Dunwan failed JPJ tho =/
Huber Optik is from?
Haha, paiseh, just laying down all the possibilities. For option A, 1.5k can get decent one?
Dunwan those "cap matahari" or "MoarCool" brand.
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Huper Optik is designed in Germany. Not too sure whether it is manufactured in Germany or some third-world countries to cut cost.

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post Mar 20 2015, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Mar 19 2015, 10:43 PM)
hi all sifu hear, wanna tint my new accord, the SA told me I can choose between Vcool, Raytec, Ecotint or Wingard, my budget is about 3000, so which one is the best? thinking to use raytec centurion 6mil
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I have only used Vkool and Huper Optik so far. No experience with other brands. My old car is on Vkool which was sold just recently, and I wanted to try something new so I went with Huper Optik for my new car. FWIW I find the performance of Vkool to be better than the Huper Optik in that Vkool feels cooler in the car with same or higher VLT. With the Huper Optik, you may get similar performance(cooler car) but you need to choose a tint model with lower VLT which fails JPJ requirements.

If you want to be safe, I would suggest Vkool Elite(or the best equivalent tint from Vkool). If you want to try something new, all other brands will also give you a cooler car. but the degree of coolness may differ slightly.

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post Mar 20 2015, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ Mar 20 2015, 01:41 PM)
Agree with you totally.

I too come from V-Kool (2 cars) to Huber Optik (2 cars).
V-Kool is the best and the most expensive.
V-Kool is metal base, it can oxidised, thus stain can appear on the film.
Because it is metal base, it can cut heat better than non metal base films.
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Yes, my current Huper Optik Sech60/C40 certainly does not feel as cool as the Vkool Elite on my previous car. Sometimes you won't know after you have tried something new. After this experience, I will likely go with Vkool on my next car.
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post Jun 16 2015, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Jun 16 2015, 02:31 PM)
Bro,
Which one is good or better between Raytech, VKool and Huper Optik ?
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I have used Vkool and now I am using Huper Optik. If you want a cooler car, go with VKool. Huper Optik is not as cool as Vkool.
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post Jun 23 2015, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(syvianlim @ Jun 23 2015, 10:49 AM)
may i ask is Huper Optik good? which spec of Huper Optik perform better and what is the price range for Huper optik? what about if compare with LLumar Diamond 6? and also what about this brand Rhinepro XD-7. appreciate if you all can share with me.
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I have Huper Optik Sech60 for front windscreen and C40 for all other windscreens. It is not as cool as VKool Elite package. Everytime I enter my car and switch on the air-cond full blast, the interior is still hot and it will slowly get cooler but still it doesn't feel as cool as VKool. The car may be cooler with darker tints such as C30 or C20 but then the tint is already very dark risk will be higher with JPJ/police.

Not sure about Llumar Diamond 6. Is this tint as cool as Vkool Elite at almost similar VLT?
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post Jun 23 2015, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(syvianlim @ Jun 23 2015, 10:49 AM)
may i ask is Huper Optik good? which spec of Huper Optik perform better and what is the price range for Huper optik? what about if compare with LLumar Diamond 6? and also what about this brand Rhinepro XD-7. appreciate if you all can share with me.
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Forgot to mention. Price for Huper Optik Sech60/C40 ranges from RM1500-1700 depending on workshop branch.
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post Jun 24 2015, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(syvianlim @ Jun 24 2015, 01:25 PM)
Thanks for the information. went to Huper Optik check out their product but find out not much variety for anti smash film and price quoted quite high as well. may not consider HO ald.
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I regretted going with Huper Optik. If you can fork out a bit more just go with VKool or other brands. Otherwise, just cheaper tints RM800-1000. I only have experience with Vkool and it is proven to be cooler at a higher VLT ie. not too dark tint.

THere is anti-smash 4mil if I'm not mistaken, though my priority is only in heat rejection and not anti-smash.
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post Jun 25 2015, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Jun 24 2015, 04:50 PM)
Yes V-Kool Safety Series has very clear VLT, if you are looking at 50% VLT you need to take VKool Series without safety and the performance is better
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If I'm not mistaken Vkool Elite's VLT is 75%. What is the TSER of Vkool Elite?

Also, which Vkool tint with VLT 50% or higher has the highest TSER ie. most efficient in blocking heat from penetrating into the cabin?

Thanks.
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post Sep 9 2015, 10:46 PM

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Does anyone here have Huper Optik Sech60 for fronts and C40 for everywhere else? I have this on my car for 3 years now and lately every time I enter the car it's hot like oven. It takes quite a while for the interior of the car to cool down with the air-cond in full blast. When new, it wasn't so bad, but looks like after 2 years the performance may have deteriorated?

And one more thing, the Huper Optik Sech60/C40 even when new, the heat rejection is inferior to the VKool Elite.

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post Sep 9 2015, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(garrick86 @ Sep 9 2015, 02:19 PM)
Here is my personal experience after researching window film for my new car for months.

I finally got tinted with Raytech Cheras.

Spec: Ultra 70 for FWS and RX 6mil for the rest

Review:

Raytech Cheras customer representative was very friendly and helpful on explaining and demo. The tinting was done in about 2 hours. Towel was used and no shoe or dirt marks on my light beige color leather as instructed to be very cautious.

I followed the instruction post-tinting and waited 2 weeks to see if there are any defects or dust. Meanwhile I am relieved that the heat resistance is superb and as advertised and you would feel only a little under the sunlight.

However there was few issue regarding dusts and on my FWS and Side window, I arranged my appointment for the warranty and get back to retint.

They are very helpful in identifying the dust and helped me to retint the windows to perfection without any further questioning or denying, I have got to compliment them for the good responsibility and professionalism. They have retinted 2 times on the same window to perfection with no dust at all.
Only one small thing is that when they retint my left rear window there was no towel used but luckily my power windows and indoor ambient led light still working.

My driver side window still got some dusts and will return to retint after my car coating is done.

SMART TAG: 10/10 (No issue at all, pass through with 100% so far with low speed)

ELECTRIC GATE: 10/10 (No issue at all, the 434 remote signal can send from 20m away)

HEAT REJECTION : 9/10 (At par with Vkool Elite on my other car, only a little heat under the sun)

WORKMANSHIP: 6/10 (Dusts spotted at all panels including RWS, maybe due to busy/peak hours and the lack of towel when retinting on my rear window)

RESPONSIBILITY: 10/10 (Retint to perfection without hesitation)

CREDIBILITY: 10/10 (So far)

Overall I would recommend Raytech for the good heat rejection of RX (98% IRR), credibility and responsibility of the workers.

*Will continue to update in the future and share my experiences/reviews on this tinting job after months or years.
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So the Raytech Ultra 70 and RX 6 mil tint is on par with VKool Elite in terms of heat rejection? Impressive. In my experience, the Vkool Elite has good heat rejection, the best I have tried so far. Not that I have tried many tints but the VKool Elite is definitely better than the Huper Optik Sech60 and C40 in terms of heat rejection.
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post Sep 11 2015, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(garrick86 @ Sep 10 2015, 11:17 AM)
You are absolutely correct, V-kool Elite so far i think is the one with best heat rejection with smarttag friendly feature.
My Vkool Elite still very comfortable and little or no reduction in heat rejection after 7 years.
I opt for the Raytech only for the securty features.
Raytech performance still under testing and will update after months/years in case if the heat rejection drops.

I would have opt for the 3M Crystalline 70 if theirs is smart tag friendly. I think their specification is quite true and not over-rated. Only that you have to trade the good IRR with Smarttag, see which one you prefer.

Judging from the Smart tag friendliness I think you would know how "real" the IRR heat rejection as advertised.

There are just too much tinting company/house brand with OVERRATED specification such as 95% IRR & more than 50% TSER which is more "HEBAT"than big brand such as 3M and Vkool with cheaper price. Once you pass through SMartTAG without slowing down as if there are no tinting, scorching skin under the sun, you will know how it is like.
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Nowadays, every time I enter my car and I feel the immense heat burning my face, I will think of Vkool. Well, if you don't try the tint you won't know, in my case choosing the Huper OPtik based on goo reviews here on the forum. Turned out to be a bad choice. No more Huper Optik for me next time.

Good to hear the raytech's performance in heat rejection is good.
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QUOTE(junlone @ Oct 20 2015, 11:09 AM)
how much is the v-kool elite for vios front window?
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NO idea. Maybe you can contact the V-kool guy here on this thread who seems to provide below-market prices for the products. I had chosen V-kool for my car 7 years ago, and it was taken as a package with the car brand new(whole car was on V-kool). The car was sold 2 years ago.
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QUOTE(billyboy @ May 13 2017, 06:43 PM)
i;m looking for Solar Film for new Nissan Serena - looking for V-Kool for front, and 2nd grade (solar gard?) for the rest.

Please recommend

How much ? Which film / grade ? thank you thank you.😛
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There are too many brands out there and I only have experience with V-kool and Huper Optik. If you want the best heat rejection, V-Kool is the best, but the price is also the best.

My old car used to be on V-kool Elite and the performance of the tint was good to excellent. The heat can barely be felt. After I changed to a new car, I chose Huper Optik (currently on my Ford Focus) and the performance cannot match the V-kool although the VLT for all windscreens are lower than the V-kool. In order to match the V-kool, you have to go with a darker shade, but then it would be below JPJ's guidelines.

If you want cheap but good, you have to go with darker shade with lower VLT to match V-kool's performance that will be riskier with regards to JPJ/police regulations.


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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Nov 2 2017, 03:11 PM)
Ceramic 60 for front, Ceramic 40 for driver& passenger, Ceramic 30 for all back

The suggestion above are not JPJ friendly nor compliant but very cooling and comfortable to block sun ray in the hot afternoon. No burns at all in the afternoon sun.

I did a review of HO after 7 years+ of usage. Deteriorates after 5 years but still better than other brand i used.

I have not used any security series from HO as installer say they kinda suck in heat rejection compared to normal HO. Maybe some rich forummer would like to try and review.
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Huper Optik C30 is already very dark to the eye and certainly not JPJ-compliant. I have the C40 for all windscreens except for the front windscreen which is Sech60 and the C40 is just borderline dark to the eye. If tested the C40 will also fail JPJ requirements but if looking just with the eye, it still looks "okay" - a little dark but not too dark like the C30.

The Huper Optik Sech60 for front windscreen and C40 for all other windcreens side and back are not as cool as the V-Kool package I had in my older car. But for the price (RM1,500-1,700) for a C-segment vehicle it's not too bad when compared to >RM2,000 for V-kool.
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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Nov 4 2017, 10:29 AM)
v Kool elite? does it still block gps signals?
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Yes, V-Kool Elite. In my case, unfortunately it does block GPS signal 70% or 80% of the time, meaning there is only 20% - 30% chance I can get GPS signal in the car. That was more than 5 years ago when I had the V-Kool elite on the Nissan Sylphy. Not too sure if the latest V-kool version still block the GPS signal but since it is the metal type I presume GPS will still be an issue.

If I were to choose a tint for a new car again, it would still be a tough choice although my previous experience suggest that V-kool is cooler than Huper Optik for the almost similar VLT, not only due to the GPS issue but the higher cost when compared to lower cost of Huper Optik. Huper Optik can match V-kool only if you go with darker tint such as C30, I suspect.
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QUOTE(stanley984 @ Mar 23 2018, 09:50 AM)
can you advise where exactly you got the deal with that 1.8k and what was the spec you applied for HO
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5 years ago I tinted my car with Huper Optik. Combination is Sech 60 for front windscreen and C40 for all other windscreens (side front, side rear and rear). At that time when I tinted my car 5 years ago, the JPJ law was 70% VLT for front windscreen and 50% VLT for all other windscreens.
About 2 or 3 years ago, the new JPJ law was revised to 70% VLT for front windscreen, 50% VLT for side front and 30% VLT for rear front and rear windscreens.

If the VLT for C30 is about 30%, I would recommend to go with C30 for side rear and rear windscreens. Personally I feel the car is still quite hot with C40. If you put C30 for side rear and rear windscreens, I suspect the car will be cooler. Since the new JPJ regulations now permit 30% VLT for side rear and rear windscreens, you now can consider darker shade of tint for the side rears and rears.

Link below (delete "n" from Paultann to access the link)

https://paultann.org/2016/02/18/new-window-...ix-months-jail/
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QUOTE(raynmann @ Mar 26 2018, 08:39 AM)
need advise as planning retint my bimmer tint

was suggested 30vlt all round with 40vlt for windscreen

so far anyone got problem with jpj or police? summon or called to go jpj?
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Not too sure if I understand your question. With tints, in my opinion it's all about taking risks. The darker the shade the higher the risk you would get with the police or JPJ. When you mentioned 30% VLT all round, I presume it is only for the front sides, rear sides and rear. The regulation is 50% VLT for front side, and if you put 30% VLT which is considerably darker, the risk would surely be there. Not too sure what you meant by putting 30% VLT tint with 40% VLT windscreen though.

My suggestion is to keep the tints close to the required VLT imposed by JPJ. Say if the permissible VLT is 50%, you can still take the risk by going for 45% or 42 % VLT. But if you go 35% VLT or lower then the risk will be too high already. Personally I will keep the difference at about 10%. Best is you ask the tint installer if they will cover for you in the event of a JPJ arrest. Meaning they will bear the cost of retint or settlement in the event you get into trouble JPJ. The tint installer usually provides this coverage assurance but it will not be for whole life. Perhaps up to 3 years or 5 years. So far I have not had any trouble with JPJ although there are several tint Operasi 3 or 4 years ago as the tint on my vehicle is still not too dark.

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QUOTE(raynmann @ Mar 26 2018, 03:44 PM)
surprised many cars on the road have 30-40% vlt for windscreen
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With Widget's post, I can now understand your previous post. You are planning to have a 40% VLT tint on your Front windscreen and 30% VLT tint for all other windscreens. Personally it all depends on luck. Many people don't follow and break the rules and most don't get caught even though some of the tints are so dark that one cannot even see through the tint. Most will get away as law enforcement is uncommon and quite rare. Only few unlucky ones will get caught if there is such an operation. A colleague has had his car tinted with a considerably darker shade for the front windscreen as he took the risk. I'm not sure what is the VLT but perhaps in the range of 50% to 40% VLT. His car was stopped by JPJ twice. I'm not too sure what's the story but until today the tint still remains as it is today.

If you consider tints that are considerably darker than the permissible regulations established by JPJ, the tint installer will likely not cover the tint in the event of a JPJ case. The tint installers will only give guarantee on the tints when they are confident that they won't get into any trouble with JPJ, tints which are close to the VLT required by JPJ.

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