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TSghoss
post Oct 16 2013, 11:25 AM, updated 5y ago

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Since the first thread is already over the limit , I decide to open v2 after asking permission from edyek.

This is a place for people to share their questions regarding on running their on small /medium biz or other inquires .

It's ok to ask on how to run a MLM / Direct Selling but please don't spam/promote it here.

My background , currently working in a MNC while selling burgers at night laugh.gif


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post Oct 16 2013, 11:31 AM

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Congratz on V2 for this thread rclxms.gif
Copy & Paste from Previous Thread for continuation

This is a good thread. Indeed a really inspiring thread. Thanks TS for starting it.

I started to read thread V1 a week ago, now I am in 76 page. Never knew I would read that far. Will continue to read.

Anyway I have some questions for sifus here.

I intend to start an online business, feng shui.
Do you think people would purchase from me (assuming I am selling out cheaper than those Big Feng Shui Master shop - Lilian Too, Joey Yap)

Capital : Max RM30k
Type of Business : Trading - feng shui items (Pagoda, money frog, horse, dragon, tortoise, etc)

Person :
(1) Me Myself
(2) My Mom (Been studying in feng shui for more than 5 years, but with one disadvantage - not getting a certificate for feng shui)

No operation/shoplots/manpower cost needed. But will hire someone to create & constantly update my own website.

How it works, I will put a picture on a particular photo. Then I will explain how it works, which direction to put in which year and what kind of things to take note, what can it help. All info free.


All kinds of feedback & critics are welcome smile.gif smile.gif Thanks notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by kenneths88: Oct 16 2013, 11:32 AM
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post Oct 16 2013, 11:39 AM

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Feng Shui , I think you still need a physical store where people can see the actual goods / consult for advice .

I feel it's more better when people can see what they're paying for rather than getting something that they thought it was.

Even for me , last time I used to buy small things like crystal. I also go survey a few shops before purchasing it .
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 11:39 AM)
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Feng Shui , I think you still need a physical store where people can see the actual goods / consult for advice .

I feel it's more better when people can see what they're paying for rather than getting something that they thought it was.

Even for me , last time I used to buy small things like crystal. I also go survey a few shops before purchasing it .
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Actually from what I actually feel, Malaysian is looking for affordable & value for money items.

For example :
Item : Small Pagoda
Feng Shui Shop : RM120
I am selling : RM 80 which include delivery cost.

Quality wise, maybe/may not be the same, but it functioning the same way. Why not purchasing from me instead of those shops?

One good example would be my mom. A lot of feng shui stuff in my house are purchase from other places (not feng shui shop) as it is much cheaper. I guess more than 50% of the stuff.

Secondly, I feel that not everyone willing to step in Feng Shui shop to listen advice from Feng Shui Master in the shop, as they do not know what they actually need. Instead, if I put it online, people would read and may compare it via GOOGLE.
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 11:25 AM)
Since the first thread is already over the limit , I decide to open v2 after asking permission from edyek.

This is a place for people to share their questions regarding on running their on small /medium biz or other inquires .

It's ok to ask on how to run a MLM / Direct Selling but please don't spam/promote it here.

My background , currently working in a MNC while selling burgers at night  laugh.gif
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holy crap, that's what I've been thinking of doing for the past few months. I am currently working in an MNC but thinking of selling burgers at night
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(kenneths88 @ Oct 16 2013, 12:10 PM)

Secondly, I feel that not everyone willing to step in Feng Shui shop to listen advice from Feng Shui Master in the shop, as they do not know what they actually need. Instead, if I put it online, people would read and may compare it via GOOGLE.
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I get what you mean , but nowadays those people that buys these thing are not so tech-savvy .

If they are , some of those might searched whether if it's real or a scam (the whole feng shui thing , not the product)

But at the end of the day , since it's online , I guess the cost is kinda low to setup .

I suggest ,
1. Provide online consultation
2. Do pre-order with deposit , you can sell cheaper and you don't need to carry a lot of stocks in hand
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:21 PM

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post Oct 16 2013, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Oct 16 2013, 12:14 PM)
holy crap, that's what I've been thinking of doing for the past few months. I am currently working in an MNC but thinking of selling burgers at night
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Just do it bro , if cooking is your passion thumbup.gif

I wanted to learn culinary but can't due to financial restraints . Only can do simple home cooks .

A little story on how I started do it ,

Few years back before pork burger was a craze around Malaysia , my friends likes to have BBQ party now and then celebrating any holidays celebration and I would bring pork patty.

I didn't thought of selling it as , selling burger is like a job that no ones want to be and it was dominant primarily by Malays.

Till someone started to sell em , and it boom and mushrooms everywhere in Penang.

If I could turn back time , I would like to be the first person to do it sad.gif
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 12:24 PM)
Just do it bro , if cooking is your passion  thumbup.gif 

I wanted to learn culinary but can't due to financial restraints . Only can do simple home cooks .

A little story on how I started do it ,

Few years back before pork burger was a craze around Malaysia , my friends likes to have BBQ party now and then celebrating any holidays celebration and I would bring pork patty.

I didn't thought of selling it as , selling burger is like a job that no ones want to be and it was dominant primarily by Malays.

Till someone started to sell em , and it boom and mushrooms everywhere in Penang.

If I could turn back time , I would like to be the first person to do it sad.gif
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if you don't mind me asking, how did you start it off? stall ? or physical shop?
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 12:17 PM)
I get what you mean , but nowadays those people that buys these thing are not so tech-savvy .

If they are , some of those might searched whether if it's real or a scam (the whole feng shui thing , not the product)

But at the end of the day , since it's online , I guess the cost is kinda low to setup .

I suggest ,
1. Provide online consultation
2. Do pre-order with deposit  , you can sell cheaper and you don't need to carry a lot of stocks in hand
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How do you mean by scam?
Sorry don't get you rclxub.gif
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Oct 16 2013, 12:27 PM)
if you don't mind me asking, how did you start it off? stall ? or physical shop?
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Currently a stall in a kopitiam , looking to expand but headache on finding workers rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

Easier to do it in a kopitiam as there is already traffic of people there.

QUOTE(kenneths88 @ Oct 16 2013, 12:31 PM)
How do you mean by scam?
Sorry don't get you  rclxub.gif
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meaning some people are not sure in feng shui , like religion , some believe some don't .
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 12:34 PM)
Currently a stall in a kopitiam , looking to expand but headache on finding workers  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Easier to do it in a kopitiam as there is already traffic of people there.
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And you do it all by yourself? worth the time invested in it ? I mean income wise. I assume you do it after work right?
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Oct 16 2013, 12:37 PM)
And you do it all by yourself? worth the time invested in it ? I mean income wise. I assume you do it after work right?
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Depends bro ~

I currently partnered with another 2 friends . Currently all is doing the business while trying to get workers so that we can do other things .

Worth the time ? When it's boom big sure worth it tongue.gif

Income wise , the biz is generating around RM3k/month profit , it's operating 5 days a week / from 730pm-12midnight and it's not even very busy sweat.gif sweat.gif

Yup after work do
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Stumbled upon on an article about childcare. I believe that most of these childcares nowadays are not registered and hence unregulated. What do you guys think about this business. I might be wrong but I personally feel that any business associated with child and women are something worth doing. nod.gif Is that so?
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QUOTE(alanaw @ Oct 16 2013, 12:47 PM)
Stumbled upon on an article about childcare. I believe that most of these childcares nowadays are not registered and hence unregulated. What do you guys think about this business. I might be wrong but I personally feel that any business associated with child and women are something worth doing.  nod.gif  Is that so?
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u need certficate, and those who take care of child need training and cert as well and their salary aint cheap.

unless your partner has those background, else i think it's quite difficult.
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post Oct 16 2013, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(alanaw @ Oct 16 2013, 12:47 PM)
Stumbled upon on an article about childcare. I believe that most of these childcares nowadays are not registered and hence unregulated. What do you guys think about this business. I might be wrong but I personally feel that any business associated with child and women are something worth doing.  nod.gif  Is that so?
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Hmm... are you talking about those day care centre / learning centre ?

Some of those are really registered company. There is a SG company opened their branch here in Penang . http://www.cheriehearts.sg/

Even every corner I go , I can see those a lot here.
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QUOTE(areankim @ Oct 16 2013, 12:50 PM)
u need certficate, and those who take care of child need training and cert as well and their salary aint cheap.

unless your partner has those background, else i think it's quite difficult.
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Agree. But they are charging quite expensive also. It should be enough to cover their salary. So back to the question, is this a good business to ventures for new comer?
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QUOTE(alanaw @ Oct 16 2013, 01:02 PM)
Agree. But they are charging quite expensive also. It should be enough to cover their salary. So back to the question, is this a good business to ventures for new comer?
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The question you should ask yourself is do you have the determination to learn, right channel to be trained and obtain information in specific industry and take the risk for loss your capital?
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post Oct 16 2013, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 12:34 PM)
meaning some people are not sure in feng shui , like religion , some believe some don't .
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Oh ok. This I am not worrying. I am just targeting people who actually believe them. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I will try it. Will update here later rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Btw, thanks ghoss....
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QUOTE(kenneths88 @ Oct 16 2013, 02:52 PM)
Oh ok. This I am not worrying. I am just targeting people who actually believe them.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

I will try it. Will update here later  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  Btw, thanks ghoss....
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QUOTE(kenneths88 @ Oct 16 2013, 02:52 PM)
Oh ok. This I am not worrying. I am just targeting people who actually believe them.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

I will try it. Will update here later  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  Btw, thanks ghoss....
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Hi Kenneths88,

I have further information and method to advise yet due to certain information are not appropriate to disclose in public thread so I had dropped you a PM for this. smile.gif
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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Oct 16 2013, 05:03 PM)
Hi Kenneths88,

I have further information and method to advise yet due to certain information are not appropriate to disclose in public thread so I had dropped you a PM for this.  smile.gif
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Replied you in PM smile.gif smile.gif Thanks
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Hi, guys. I've been thinking of venturing into business. Been thinking of options for side business, particularly online selling such as those in garage sales... Looking for a side business that I can manage while still working in a day job.

One option that came across my mind is selling Playstation/Xbox games. I know there are many online sellers in garage sales, but I do believe there are not many stores in the state where I live, so maybe an online store that can do Cash-On-Delivery will be attractive to gamers here. Especially if I can offer a cheap price like those sellers in Garage sales. The risk of course is that I'm not sure if there are many gamers (potential customers) here. sweat.gif Lack of stores here could possibly be due to lack of customers.
Do you guys think this kind of business is worth venturing into?

In general, these are some of my doubts. Not just for the games selling idea, but for online selling in general. I would really appreciate it if some experts here can share some of their experience.
1. Biggest issue: How do I find a supplier? Heck, not just for games, but any other products. I tried googling for suppliers and often find very little info. Is finding suppliers really dependant on networking?
2. From your experience guys, what is a reasonable capital for online selling side business like this? Is RM 5k-RM 10k enough?
3. Marketing to the right target. Well, the methods I can think of are old fashioned pamphlet distribution... certainly social media advertising. Garage sales in lowyat forum of course. Stick posters in public toilets? LOL. tongue.gif

I thought of selling mobile phone accessories as well but I feel that is a highly competitive market now as there are many sellers selling those accessories online. I would welcome ideas for other side business as well.

I am really passionate in wanting to venture into business, starting with a side business. But I'll be frank, I come from the engineering line and mostly the academic side, so I know next to nothing about running a business. I'm looking to learn as much as I can really. It's just that I'm not sure how to. Can you learn proper business management through those management and marketing books out there? Somehow I doubt it. sweat.gif But if there are really good marketing and business management books out there, then please share the title with me, I'll go get it. smile.gif

So yea, I would really appreciate any advice/guidance given from all the successful businessmen/businesswomen here. Thanks. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Oct 16 2013, 10:13 PM)
Hi, guys. I've been thinking of venturing into business. Been thinking of options for side business, particularly online selling such as those in garage sales... Looking for a side business that I can manage while still working in a day job.

One option that came across my mind is selling Playstation/Xbox games. I know there are many online sellers in garage sales, but I do believe there are not many stores in the state where I live, so maybe an online store that can do Cash-On-Delivery will be attractive to gamers here. Especially if I can offer a cheap price like those sellers in Garage sales. The risk of course is that I'm not sure if there are many gamers (potential customers) here. sweat.gif Lack of stores here could possibly be due to lack of customers.
Do you guys think this kind of business is worth venturing into?

In general, these are some of my doubts. Not just for the games selling idea, but for online selling in general. I would really appreciate it if some experts here can share some of their experience.
1. Biggest issue: How do I find a supplier? Heck, not just for games, but any other products. I tried googling for suppliers and often find very little info. Is finding suppliers really dependant on networking?
2. From your experience guys, what is a reasonable capital for online selling side business like this? Is RM 5k-RM 10k enough?
3. Marketing to the right target. Well, the methods I can think of are old fashioned pamphlet distribution... certainly social media advertising. Garage sales in lowyat forum of course. Stick posters in public toilets? LOL.  tongue.gif

I thought of selling mobile phone accessories as well but I feel that is a highly competitive market now as there are many sellers selling those accessories online. I would welcome ideas for other side business as well.

I am really passionate in wanting to venture into business, starting with a side business. But I'll be frank, I come from the engineering line and mostly the academic side, so I know next to nothing about running a business. I'm looking to learn as much as I can really. It's just that I'm not sure how to. Can you learn proper business management through those management and marketing books out there? Somehow I doubt it. sweat.gif  But if there are really good marketing and business management books out there, then please share the title with me, I'll go get it.  smile.gif

So yea, I would really appreciate any advice/guidance given from all the successful businessmen/businesswomen here. Thanks.  notworthy.gif
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For the gaming part , I guess you can try to target those local people without credit card . Else they can get it themselves .

For phone accessories , it's do-able if you have contacts from China to ship the products from there . Best to earn when there is a new phone model and once a newer phone model out . Your stock might be hard to sell.
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Congratz On V2 !

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 17 2013, 02:50 AM)
For the gaming part , I guess you can try to target those local people without credit card . Else they can get it themselves .

For phone accessories , it's do-able if you have contacts from China to ship the products from there . Best to earn when there is a new phone model and once a newer phone model out . Your stock might be hard to sell.
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Thanks for the response. Having done some reading and searching around, I do believe the gaming idea is more difficult. Local suppliers are extremely elusive, I am surprised they do not promote themselves on the internet more vigorously. And if I were to get international suppliers, purchasing wholesale requires a large capital I believe, not to mention the uncertainty of whether I could sell all the volumes purchased as a newbie business. Dropship is almost certainly out of the question for international suppliers.

Phone accessories seems more possible. Unfortunately, with no contacts in China, may have to seek for those online wholesale sellers from China. The cost for accessories are perhaps lower than games, so wholesale purchase seems more possible. The problem of course is that there are plenty of competition. And my original target demography of people living in surrounding areas is less valid, since not many people will want to deal by COD for cheap accessories.

Well the more I learn, the more I feel that business is like an exclusive circle. Businessmen knows businessmen, suppliers know other suppliers. They are the ones with contacts of each other, but the ones from the outside have no way of contacting them. It's all about contacts and netowrking. Added with the fact that most businessmen likes to keep their cards close to their chest, understandably. It makes it really difficult for someone from the outside to penetrate through that circle. Suppliers in US or UK seems to be more easily 'reachable' in some ways compared to local suppliers.
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 11:25 AM)
Since the first thread is already over the limit , I decide to open v2 after asking permission from edyek.

This is a place for people to share their questions regarding on running their on small /medium biz or other inquires .

It's ok to ask on how to run a MLM / Direct Selling but please don't spam/promote it here.

My background , currently working in a MNC while selling burgers at night  laugh.gif
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very cool boss. i love burgers. so much so i also thought of doing premium burgers too.
but just a dream as i barely know how to cook a decent meal.
but what is lacking is premium burgers.
and i hate the fact that burger is so burger like.
size is kinda fixed. i look forward to bigger sized portion. something that when you go mcD asking small, regular, large, it applies to the burger too rather than just the fries and drinks.

so far one of the most successful burger outlets seems to be burgerlab.
i have yet to try it though. the queues are just plain ridiculous.
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Oct 18 2013, 11:23 AM)
Thanks for the response. Having done some reading and searching around, I do believe the gaming idea is more difficult. Local suppliers are extremely elusive, I am surprised they do not promote themselves on the internet more vigorously. And if I were to get international suppliers, purchasing wholesale requires a large capital I believe, not to mention the uncertainty of whether I could sell all the volumes purchased as a newbie business. Dropship is almost certainly out of the question for international suppliers.

Phone accessories seems more possible. Unfortunately, with no contacts in China, may have to seek for those online wholesale sellers from China. The cost for accessories are perhaps lower than games, so wholesale purchase seems more possible. The problem of course is that there are plenty of competition. And my original target demography of people living in surrounding areas is less valid, since not many people will want to deal by COD for cheap accessories.

Well the more I learn, the more I feel that business is like an exclusive circle. Businessmen knows businessmen, suppliers know other suppliers. They are the ones with contacts of each other, but the ones from the outside have no way of contacting them. It's all about contacts and netowrking. Added with the fact that most businessmen likes to keep their cards close to their chest, understandably. It makes it really difficult for someone from the outside to penetrate through that circle. Suppliers in US or UK seems to be more easily 'reachable' in some ways compared to local suppliers.
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You're welcome~
Else maybe you can start off with franchising/partnering with your local phone accessories sellers ?
US / UK won't it be more expensive ? shipping cost also higher I think
It's indeed hard to get the important contacts but you need to start from some where. Maybe you can find wholesales that operates locally here in Malaysia but they ofcos are selling more than China prices .

I tried to do a women's clothing biz which is on hold at the moment , the cost for the dresses is only less than 18 but it's selling for 40+ sweat.gif

QUOTE(kochin @ Oct 18 2013, 11:57 AM)
very cool boss. i love burgers. so much so i also thought of doing premium burgers too.
but just a dream as i barely know how to cook a decent meal.
but what is lacking is premium burgers.
and i hate the fact that burger is so burger like.
size is kinda fixed. i look forward to bigger sized portion. something that when you go mcD asking small, regular, large, it applies to the burger too rather than just the fries and drinks.

so far one of the most successful burger outlets seems to be burgerlab.
i have yet to try it though. the queues are just plain ridiculous.
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Lol , everyone starts cooking somewhere too. I learned mostly from online (google/youtube etc) and practice at home

As the saying goes , you don't go reinvent the wheel . It's not easy to have different sizes of patty as it's confusing (will shrink after cooking / customer changing mind after ordering)

Do it bigger , I believe my burger is big enough already sweat.gif



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Hi guys, recently i just registered a company with SSM. Currrently i have a partner to do the business. We plan on selling VCO based product. What makes our product different from other company's VCO is that we are the only one selling in emulsion form. We plan to make emulsion as our main product. Currently we have one interested party to be our investor. Do you have any suggestion in what we should prepare before we accept him to be our investor? Do you guys have any useful insight?
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 18 2013, 12:31 PM)
You're welcome~
Else maybe you can start off with franchising/partnering with your local phone accessories sellers ?
US / UK won't it be more expensive ? shipping cost also higher I think
It's indeed hard to get the important contacts but you need to start from some where. Maybe you can find wholesales that operates locally here in Malaysia but they ofcos are selling more than China prices .

I tried to do a women's clothing biz which is on hold at the moment , the cost for the dresses is only less than 18 but it's selling for 40+  sweat.gif

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nod.gif Yep, I think the cost is high if bring from US or UK. Agreed, everyone has to start from somewhere. It is the first stage that is the hardest. I'll have to do more research and look for more alternatives.

High profit margin there for those dresses, drool.gif you'll certainly earn if you market it to the right consumers. rclxms.gif
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For massage oil product, where is the place to market it?
Besides alternative medicine shops.
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Any of u guys here have an experience about water filter machine? The one u insert 20cent, get a liter of water. What's the cost for the machine, the maintanence and everything else? Most importantly, what's the profit margin?
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For massage oil product, where is the place to market it?
Besides alternative medicine shops.
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beauty shops, boutiques,
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 18 2013, 01:31 PM)
You're welcome~
Else maybe you can start off with franchising/partnering with your local phone accessories sellers ?
US / UK won't it be more expensive ? shipping cost also higher I think
It's indeed hard to get the important contacts but you need to start from some where. Maybe you can find wholesales that operates locally here in Malaysia but they ofcos are selling more than China prices .

I tried to do a women's clothing biz which is on hold at the moment , the cost for the dresses is only less than 18 but it's selling for 40+  sweat.gif
Lol , everyone starts cooking somewhere too. I learned mostly from online (google/youtube etc) and practice at home

As the saying goes , you don't go reinvent the wheel . It's not easy to have different sizes of patty as it's confusing (will shrink after cooking / customer changing mind after ordering)

Do it bigger , I believe my burger is big enough already sweat.gif
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Where is your shop?
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post Oct 20 2013, 04:12 PM

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At Dato keramat there , opposite federal place
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post Oct 22 2013, 01:50 AM

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Failed

Capital : 0
Period : 2 years +
Type of Business : Event props and Booth Contractor
Person : 1 partner (both of us can design and have knowledge on the materials and contruction techniques)
Lesson : Client company wash out with outstanding payment, unable to sustain to pay suppliers


This is a business that is easy to maintain the sales, what we did was, walk around exhibition and talk to people (give name cards). Eventually people will contact you to compare price and design. Nett profit margin is around 20%-45%

anyway im still looking for other business opportunities despite the failure of first business (which is very pain in debt but i am recovering =)). Lesson learned 0 capital doesn't mean low risk.

Also i would like to share this info for those who are interested on CAR RENTAL business, please refer to the website below,

http://wahiabdrashid.com/287/menubuhkan-sy...at-kereta-sewa/

not an easy process for the licensing, and risk management part.
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post Oct 22 2013, 08:27 AM

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Maybe i should share mine as well.

Business Fail and Gone Wrong - Very Failed

Type of Business : Transportation of Goods (East Malaysia - Sabah)
Started Year Jan 2005 - April 2007
Capital : RM5,000 (Each Person)
Period : 2 years +

Person : 5 partner (But only 3 in the Enterprise Trading license)

Vehicle : 3 Ton Lorry (Upgrade to 6 ton Load)
Worker : 1 Driver, 1 Hookman/Assistant

Business Load all good from KK Major Town to Mostly SDK/TWU/LD - Longest is Semporna

1 Trip = RM350 for the Fuel (RM180 for 1 Way)
1 Driver = RM300 for the Food/Stay

1 Trip Load = Worth of Transportation Fees = RM 1k. (The less is RM700)
Return from Sandakan = RM300~500 Additional Goods load back to KK (But not always, Once or Twice a Month)
If from Tawau/LD = Empty

Every Week surely have 2 ~ 3 Trips.
Simple Calculation = 8 Trips per month
= RM8k ++ (if plus the SDK trip back)

Driver Salary = RM 1.5K (1 Trip RM50) Commission the more the better
HookMan = RM400 (1 Trip RM30) to accompany the Driver and Unload the Stuff

Reason Business Failed due to the Main Con/Supplier.
He acted as the King of Transportation whom can give you more or less of Goods. Meaning have to jaga him also.

How he does ?
Since i mention all the Goods are from Him. Therefore, he can select the best of high income to any transporter. So He is the one direct deal with the Customer. OF course, i also go see the Customer and offer.
But what he does, he get the Goods, pass to me to send, and received the payment within 3 ~ 7 working days.
Lama Lama, he drag and say the Customer didn't pay weekly but into Monthly.
Findout, he use the money to pay his own Lorry (He got 8 Lorry) so he use the money to move swiftly around for his own purpose.

Lama Lama, say all the Money cannot be pay. WHY ? because one of my Partners whom claim is in the Transportation Business before is handling didn't get the Black & White thing to Sign / Chop
That time i was working (Makan Gaji) n use the Salary to cover the Operation. Man, it was my very down moment.

When all partners decide to stop. 2 have left, i mean not in the Trading License. Me myself wan to revive it but failed as the other 2 doesn't want to continue. Jual the Lorry and lucky i still have my job.

From RM5,000 Capital, i have fork additional RM6,000 for the Operation, Fuel and even Driver. Because i belief if i can overcome the DOWN time, i am sure will be a hit since i see the Opportunity but i was been CON in the first place. The Business was a CON, as it was intended from the very beginning moment.

Therefore, i learn. FRIENDS is always FRIENDS. but BUSINESS is BUSINESS. and Evertyhing you do in LEGAL Business please please get it BLACK & WHITE. Sometimes friendship hurts when it comes to MONEY.



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QUOTE(anak kenyalang @ Oct 19 2013, 10:10 PM)
Hello guys.

Any of u guys here have an experience about water filter machine? The one u insert 20cent, get a liter of water. What's the cost for the machine, the maintanence and everything else? Most importantly, what's the profit margin?
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I saw this water dispenser machine few years back in my hometown and they had gone within a year.
Personally i don't get water from there because hygiene would be a concern for me. Well for the costs & profit margin can't advise you, never really go deep into that. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Manuk1188 @ Oct 22 2013, 08:27 AM)
Maybe i should share mine as well.

Business Fail and Gone Wrong - Very Failed

Type of Business : Transportation of Goods (East Malaysia - Sabah)
Started Year Jan 2005 - April 2007
Capital : RM5,000 (Each Person)
Period : 2 years +

Person : 5 partner (But only 3 in the Enterprise Trading license)

Vehicle : 3 Ton Lorry (Upgrade to 6 ton Load)
Worker : 1 Driver, 1 Hookman/Assistant

Business Load all good from KK Major Town to Mostly SDK/TWU/LD - Longest is Semporna

1 Trip = RM350 for the Fuel (RM180 for 1 Way)
1 Driver = RM300 for the Food/Stay

1 Trip Load = Worth of Transportation Fees = RM 1k. (The less is RM700)
Return from Sandakan = RM300~500 Additional Goods load back to KK (But not always, Once or Twice a Month)
If from Tawau/LD = Empty

Every Week surely have 2 ~ 3 Trips.
Simple Calculation = 8 Trips per month
= RM8k ++ (if plus the SDK trip back)

Driver Salary = RM 1.5K (1 Trip RM50) Commission the more the better
HookMan = RM400 (1 Trip RM30) to accompany the Driver and Unload the Stuff

Reason Business Failed due to the Main Con/Supplier.
He acted as the King of Transportation whom can give you more or less of Goods. Meaning have to jaga him also.

How he does ?
Since i mention all the Goods are from Him. Therefore, he can select the best of high income to any transporter. So He is the one direct deal with the Customer. OF course, i also go see the Customer and offer.
But what he does, he get the Goods, pass to me to send, and received the payment within 3 ~ 7 working days.
Lama Lama, he drag and say the Customer didn't pay weekly but into Monthly.
Findout, he use the money to pay his own Lorry (He got 8 Lorry) so he use the money to move swiftly around for his own purpose.

Lama Lama, say all the Money cannot be pay. WHY ? because one of my Partners whom claim is in the Transportation Business before is handling didn't get the Black & White thing to Sign / Chop
That time i was working (Makan Gaji) n use the Salary to cover the Operation. Man, it was my very down moment.

When all partners decide to stop. 2 have left, i mean not in the Trading License. Me myself wan to revive it but failed as the other 2 doesn't want to continue. Jual the Lorry and lucky i still have my job.

From RM5,000 Capital, i have fork additional RM6,000 for the Operation, Fuel and even Driver. Because i belief if i can overcome the DOWN time, i am sure will be a hit since i see the Opportunity but i was been CON in the first place. The Business was a CON, as it was intended from the very beginning moment.

Therefore, i learn. FRIENDS is always FRIENDS. but BUSINESS is BUSINESS. and Evertyhing you do in LEGAL Business please please get it BLACK & WHITE. Sometimes friendship hurts when it comes to MONEY.
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Hi Manuk, your story are really inspiring and it is a very common mistake that happened in partnership which build on FRIENDSHIP.

Every agreement or entity should get it black & white, and also for accounting. It's very sensitive when come to money which some people might not have ethical may lead to undertable transaction for all. Again, this case always happened in those partnership with 'brotherhood'.

Getting a right buisness partner is very important.

May your new venture get the right business partner & strive for your business.

This post has been edited by LawrenceTan: Oct 22 2013, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Oct 22 2013, 12:08 PM)
Hi Manuk, your story are really inspiring and it is a very common mistake take happended in partnership which build on FRIENDSHIP.

Every agreement or entity should get it black & white, and also for accounting. It's very sensitive when come to money which some people might not have ethical may lead to undertable transaction for all. Again, this case always happened in those partnership with 'brotherhood'.

Getting a right buisness partner is very important.

May your new venture get the right business partner & strive for your business.
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Thanks for the encouragement.

Business maybe is not my type. As i turn older and forseen that, Makan Gaji is my goal. As i don't see myself as a Leader or CEO or an Owner. But i see myself as a Career Ladder-man ... Keep promote n promote smile.gif Because i love the way the Company offered me (Training oversea, Conference and Company Field Trip) Even if the Bond is exist, i don't mind because i love the Team and the Company Owner.

AFterall, who doesn't love the FREE Stuff ...

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QUOTE(Manuk1188 @ Oct 22 2013, 08:27 AM)
Maybe i should share mine as well.

Business Fail and Gone Wrong - Very Failed

Type of Business : Transportation of Goods (East Malaysia - Sabah)
Started Year Jan 2005 - April 2007
Capital : RM5,000 (Each Person)
Period : 2 years +

Person : 5 partner (But only 3 in the Enterprise Trading license)

Vehicle : 3 Ton Lorry (Upgrade to 6 ton Load)
Worker : 1 Driver, 1 Hookman/Assistant

Business Load all good from KK Major Town to Mostly SDK/TWU/LD - Longest is Semporna

1 Trip = RM350 for the Fuel (RM180 for 1 Way)
1 Driver = RM300 for the Food/Stay

1 Trip Load = Worth of Transportation Fees = RM 1k. (The less is RM700)
Return from Sandakan = RM300~500 Additional Goods load back to KK (But not always, Once or Twice a Month)
If from Tawau/LD = Empty

Every Week surely have 2 ~ 3 Trips.
Simple Calculation = 8 Trips per month
= RM8k ++ (if plus the SDK trip back)

Driver Salary = RM 1.5K (1 Trip RM50) Commission the more the better
HookMan = RM400 (1 Trip RM30) to accompany the Driver and Unload the Stuff

Reason Business Failed due to the Main Con/Supplier.
He acted as the King of Transportation whom can give you more or less of Goods. Meaning have to jaga him also.

How he does ?
Since i mention all the Goods are from Him. Therefore, he can select the best of high income to any transporter. So He is the one direct deal with the Customer. OF course, i also go see the Customer and offer.
But what he does, he get the Goods, pass to me to send, and received the payment within 3 ~ 7 working days.
Lama Lama, he drag and say the Customer didn't pay weekly but into Monthly.
Findout, he use the money to pay his own Lorry (He got 8 Lorry) so he use the money to move swiftly around for his own purpose.

Lama Lama, say all the Money cannot be pay. WHY ? because one of my Partners whom claim is in the Transportation Business before is handling didn't get the Black & White thing to Sign / Chop
That time i was working (Makan Gaji) n use the Salary to cover the Operation. Man, it was my very down moment.

When all partners decide to stop. 2 have left, i mean not in the Trading License. Me myself wan to revive it but failed as the other 2 doesn't want to continue. Jual the Lorry and lucky i still have my job.

From RM5,000 Capital, i have fork additional RM6,000 for the Operation, Fuel and even Driver. Because i belief if i can overcome the DOWN time, i am sure will be a hit since i see the Opportunity but i was been CON in the first place. The Business was a CON, as it was intended from the very beginning moment.

Therefore, i learn. FRIENDS is always FRIENDS. but BUSINESS is BUSINESS. and Evertyhing you do in LEGAL Business please please get it BLACK & WHITE. Sometimes friendship hurts when it comes to MONEY.
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Thanks for sharing.

Another lesson I saw from your expereince is never let the business rely on ONLY 1 Customer or your business will be manipulated by this only 1 customer.

A successful business should always have your own core competencies, high entry barrier and able to serve the emerging market.

I am a young professional in a corporate business, glad to see people sharing experience and learn from mistakes.

Everyone makes mistakes, the thing that matters is always think about how you could do differently (how to improve it). Best wishes to you and all who is venturing into business thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Oct 23 2013, 10:18 PM
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Hi, I am interested in starting a food truck business that sell sandwiches and drinks nearby office and uni areas. Do I need special license or permit to stop my truck and sell food somewhere around KL or PJ areas? If so, what kind of license shall I apply?

Thanks for the help!
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I hope someone could share some guidelines on how to start a small retail business for entrepreneur. Was looking at taking over an existing business.
What are the factors to look into while taking over an existing business?
The good parts I could come out with are saving time, renovation costs and less hassle of looking for all those things needed for to setup the shop. Besides, the seller might provide the suppliers contacts which I can save time looking for them.
However, also worry the true reason behind the seller is selling for. Is it business not doing well? not making profit? or what else?

Appreciate all the help. Thanks!
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hi, I planning open western café in klang valley ? can someone recommend which part is high tranffic ?

my café is target middle and high.

thanks

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QUOTE(CHRISTIANLOW @ Oct 24 2013, 09:49 PM)
hi, I planning open western café in klang valley ? can someone recommend which part is high tranffic ?

my café is target middle and high.

thanks
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how much you will able to afford the rental?

to answer you definitely hot area like kota damansara, bkt bintang sunway, subang, kuchai, bandar puteri puchong etc ... if your food is good then people will travel all the way just to eat yours

I am also looking forward invest an non halal american fast food restaurant
at least something to do over on sunday
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Really great reading real life experience of business venture, thanks for sharing! It's truly inspiring. I myself currently don't run any businesses but I'm saving up capital and hope to come out with something in future! smile.gif Cheers!
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Oct 19 2013, 10:22 PM)
beauty shops, boutiques,
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thanks
most of em accepting consignment
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 12:46 PM)
Depends bro ~

I currently partnered with another 2 friends . Currently all is doing the business while trying to get workers so that we can do other things .

Worth the time ? When it's boom big sure worth it  tongue.gif

Income wise , the biz is generating around RM3k/month profit , it's operating 5 days a week / from 730pm-12midnight and it's not even very busy  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Yup after work do
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Hi, notworthy.gif salute you for bravely venture into this tough job. Not all willing to work at stall standing there waiting for customers.

I hope you can give some insights /tips;
1) what license/permit to do this biz in kopitiam ?
2) you said you work in an MNC now, enough rest/sleep since you work till midnight ? tongue.gif
3) any local council like majlis come to kacau you ? Or Samseng asking for protection $$$ (watch too much drama tongue.gif )

I was thinking about road side stall like those ramli burger but it might be more hassle compare to working in a kopitiam...
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QUOTE(Ohiki @ Oct 27 2013, 12:48 PM)
Hi,  notworthy.gif salute you for bravely venture into this tough job. Not all willing to work at stall standing there waiting for customers.

I hope you can give some insights /tips;
1) what license/permit to do this biz in kopitiam ?
2) you said you work in an MNC now, enough rest/sleep since you work till midnight ?  tongue.gif
3) any local council like majlis come to kacau you ? Or Samseng asking for protection $$$ (watch too much drama  tongue.gif )

I was thinking about road side stall like those ramli burger but it might be more hassle compare to working in a kopitiam...
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1) Private kopitiam no need license/permit , just need to ask the taukeh.
2) Try to arrange lor , I work 10am , then sleep 1am ,wake up 9am. laugh.gif
3) So far no lor haha. Local council no kacau unless in local council food court
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I am just curious, what do you guys think of selling furniture online & offline but without a showroom? only warehouse and office.
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 27 2013, 03:17 PM)
1) Private kopitiam no need license/permit , just need to ask the taukeh.
2) Try to arrange lor , I work 10am , then sleep 1am ,wake up 9am. laugh.gif
3) So far no lor haha. Local council no kacau unless in local council food court
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hmm.gif sounds like working on shift...

No need license but need to register with Roc right ?
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QUOTE(Gh-x @ Oct 27 2013, 03:22 PM)
I am just curious, what do you guys think of selling furniture online & offline but without a showroom? only warehouse and office.
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hard ler ~ people need to see before buy
QUOTE(Ohiki @ Oct 27 2013, 03:36 PM)
hmm.gif  sounds like working on shift...

No need license but need to register with Roc right ?
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No need also ~ But I registered so the name is mine laugh.gif

Register also cheap cheap only less than rm100
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QUOTE(tomato123 @ Oct 24 2013, 05:14 PM)
I hope someone could share some guidelines on how to start a small retail business for entrepreneur. Was looking at taking over an existing business.
What are the factors to look into while taking over an existing business?
The good parts I could come out with are saving time, renovation costs and less hassle of looking for all those things needed for to setup the shop. Besides, the seller might provide the suppliers contacts which I can save time looking for them.
However, also worry the true reason behind the seller is selling for. Is it business not doing well? not making profit? or what else?

Appreciate all the help. Thanks!
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survey the business. look at its surroundings. go there during weekday and weekend (watch from far), dont let them know u are there. see whether got traffic and transaction. some owner say got xx,xxx business every month, but when u take over u see the actual situation. that time its too late.


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post Oct 27 2013, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(kangry @ Oct 22 2013, 01:50 AM)
Failed

Capital : 0
Period : 2 years +
Type of Business : Event props and Booth Contractor
Person : 1 partner (both of us can design and have knowledge on the materials and contruction techniques)
Lesson : Client company wash out with outstanding payment, unable to sustain to pay suppliers
This is a business that is easy to maintain the sales, what we did was, walk around exhibition and talk to people (give name cards). Eventually people will contact you to compare price and design. Nett profit margin is around 20%-45%

anyway im still looking for other business opportunities despite the failure of first business (which is very pain in debt but i am recovering =)). Lesson learned 0 capital doesn't mean low risk.

Also i would like to share this info for those who are interested on CAR RENTAL business, please refer to the website below,

http://wahiabdrashid.com/287/menubuhkan-sy...at-kereta-sewa/

not an easy process for the licensing, and risk management part.
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Event biz is good income, but how much min capital need to start up?
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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Oct 22 2013, 11:02 AM)
I saw this water dispenser machine few years back in my hometown and they had gone within a year.
Personally i don't get water from there because hygiene would be a concern for me. Well for the costs & profit margin can't advise you, never really go deep into that.  smile.gif
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My main target is not local, but foreign workers (Bangla, nepal, indon) since they don't have much time to boil water, etc. etc.. If the business can generate around RM300 per month, I would be more than happy.

So anyone have any contacts on the water machine, or better, any idea or information regarding the business, kindly contact me. Thanks. smile.gif
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QUOTE(alexcky @ Oct 27 2013, 08:17 PM)
Event biz is good income, but how much min capital need to start up?
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Enough money to pay the suppliers .

Else you have to pay first .
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Hi all,

Currently I am working on a proposal to provide project consultation service to one of the company. The project duration is estimate 9 months to complete.

I would like to take this opportunity to setup my own business by providing services to the market and slowly carrying some products and expand the business. I am not worrying the work scope because I am actually doing it in my day-to-day full time job.

Here my questions:-
a) Should I ask the company hire me as part time contractor with fix fees?
b) Should I register a new company and sell my service to the company by charging them time and material?
c) Any other suggestion ?

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post Oct 28 2013, 05:20 PM

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Hi all,

Just sharing out my business, (Not running in Malaysia but calculate based on it's rate)

Type of Business : CyberCafe
Work Time : Mostly 24 hour (close when there's no customer)
Budget : +/- RM100k

Profit : Depends, ranging from RM1k-RM4~5k.

Pros:
i) Easy to manage if you got a trusted worker.
ii) No need to spend so much effort in managing the cafe.
iii) If you have computer knowledge background, can save a lot in technical fees.

Cons:
i) Too many competitors.
ii) Profits range gap is too far. (Lots of reason which affects this such as school holidays)
iii) High investment with "not-very-satisfying" income.
iv) Thefts (stealing PC parts), Ragers (destroying the equipment) and maintenance



Am now moving into finding new business, was wondering if anyone have a good suggestion biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Oct 28 2013, 05:20 PM)
Hi all,

Just sharing out my business, (Not running in Malaysia but calculate based on it's rate)

Type of Business : CyberCafe
Work Time : Mostly 24 hour (close when there's no customer)
Budget : +/- RM100k

Profit : Depends, ranging from RM1k-RM4~5k.

Pros:
i) Easy to manage if you got a trusted worker.
ii) No need to spend so much effort in managing the cafe.
iii) If you have computer knowledge background, can save a lot in technical fees.

Cons:
i) Too many competitors.
ii) Profits range gap is too far. (Lots of reason which affects this such as school holidays)
iii) High investment with "not-very-satisfying" income.
iv) Thefts (stealing PC parts), Ragers (destroying the equipment) and maintenance
Am now moving into finding new business, was wondering if anyone have a good suggestion biggrin.gif
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where is ur biz exactly?i was aiming to open cc too.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 11:25 AM)
Since the first thread is already over the limit , I decide to open v2 after asking permission from edyek.

This is a place for people to share their questions regarding on running their on small /medium biz or other inquires .

It's ok to ask on how to run a MLM / Direct Selling but please don't spam/promote it here.

My background , currently working in a MNC while selling burgers at night  laugh.gif
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Oh, you're the DAYUMM Burger dude! Awesome, and thanks for the LANSI burger cake yo (and V2 lol).
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QUOTE(jpaul @ Oct 28 2013, 02:25 PM)
Hi all,

Currently I am working on a proposal to provide project consultation service to one of the company. The project duration is estimate 9 months to complete.

I would like to take this opportunity to setup my own business by providing services to the market and slowly carrying some products and expand the business. I am not worrying the work scope because I am actually doing it in my day-to-day full time job.

Here my questions:-
a) Should I ask the company hire me as part time contractor with fix fees?
b) Should I register a new company and sell my service to the company by charging them time and material?
c) Any other suggestion ?
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It depends on how you think of your experience.
1)have you been in this industry for awhile ?
2)Do you have enough experience to manage a company ?
If no , the best suggestion will be to work as a part time contractor first to gain experience and get to know more about it before you start establish your company.

If you think you are into this industry , yea you should open up your company so you could build up the profile and in the mean time , other opportunity too smile.gif
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QUOTE(devil94 @ Oct 29 2013, 02:55 PM)
It depends on how you think of your experience.
1)have you been in this industry for awhile ?
2)Do you have enough experience to manage a company ?
If no , the best suggestion will be to work as a part time contractor first to gain experience and get to know more about it before you start establish your company.

If you think you are into this industry , yea you should open up your company so you could build up the profile and in the mean time , other opportunity too  smile.gif
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Hi,

Good to hear from you.

1) Yes, I am.
2) No, I don't have experiene managing a company. I already have the profile, that the reason want to start up a company to move further smile.gif
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QUOTE(schizzow @ Oct 29 2013, 02:26 PM)
Oh, you're the DAYUMM Burger dude! Awesome, and thanks for the LANSI burger cake yo (and V2 lol).
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Ai sehh !

You're welcome thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(jpaul @ Oct 29 2013, 05:06 PM)
Hi,

Good to hear from you.

1) Yes, I am.
2) No, I don't have experiene managing a company. I already have the profile, that the reason want to start up a company to move further smile.gif
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Well , since you are into the industry , you should probably plan your company smile.gif
Not everyone have the experience , but with the right management , it should't be a problem smile.gif
in the meantime you can look for partner , i will advise not looking in your "bro" zone , because something i learn that money is sensitive no matter if it was "Bro" zone or not.
Try looking for someone with the same passion and vision with you smile.gif
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Hi all, I am thinking of making my own shoes and sell, any ideas where can i get some basic raw material in a small amount? Get from a shoe makershop?
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Hi everyone,

I would like to ask whether the demand of wooden lamp/ lighting is a good sell in Malaysia?
Currently i'm doing carpentry in a small furniture factory and i have a few sample of designer wooden table light and pendant light that i designed and build it myself with the right machinery.
I'm thinking of manufacturing it and distribute / supply to shops around Malaysia.

The problem i'm facing now is

1. Does this business works in malaysia? because unlike many other "Guai Lou" country, they prefer artwork.
2. My light / raw material are all from malaysia. Does customer see the worthiness of malaysian product?

I prefer start from small scale and slowly upgrade it.

Any feedback is much appreciated. sweat.gif

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post Nov 3 2013, 12:48 PM

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v2 already..

1st business = imported gummi bears (sweets)
capital = 1k
duration = 2 months (jan-feb 2011)
outcome = failed
reason = locals have no idea what is this. expensive.

2nd business = selling sweets and junk foods on tourist spots (part-time)
capital = few hundred. replenished locally
duration = 1 year (feb 2011 - jan 2012)
outcome = changed to selling ice cream
reason = cheap items, low sales, low margin. not so fast moving.

3rd business = selling ice cream on motorbike (full time after quit job)
capital = 4k
duration = 1 year (feb 2012-dec 2012)
outcome = changed to selling toys
reason = fast moving and low margin. hard labor and high cost for electric bill. enforcer kacau. weather dependant.

4rd business = selling fake legos on weekends
capital = 1k, replenish locally
duration = 1.5 yrs and on-going (since april 2012)

*back to employment since jan 2013 (office hours)

5rd business = selling women's accessories on rented spaces at shopping mall
capital = 2K
duration = since feb 2013

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QUOTE(georgelimsk @ Nov 3 2013, 12:48 PM)
v2 already..

1st business = imported gummi bears (sweets)
capital = 1k
duration = 2 months (jan-feb 2011)
outcome = failed
reason = locals have no idea what is this. expensive.

2nd business = selling sweets and junk foods on tourist spots (part-time)
capital = few hundred. replenished locally
duration = 1 year (feb 2011 - jan 2012)
outcome = changed to selling ice cream
reason = cheap items, low sales, low margin. not so fast moving.

3rd business = selling ice cream on motorbike (full time after quit job)
capital = 4k
duration = 1 year (feb 2012-dec 2012)
outcome = changed to selling toys
reason = fast moving and low margin. hard labor and high cost for electric bill. enforcer kacau. weather dependant.

4rd business = selling fake legos on weekends
capital = 1k, replenish locally
duration = 1.5 yrs and on-going (since april 2012)

*back to employment since jan 2013 (office hours)

5rd business = selling women's accessories on rented spaces at shopping mall
capital = 2K
duration = since feb 2013
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So now u hire staff to take care of the rented spaces ? And yourself continue working ?
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post Nov 3 2013, 03:44 PM

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No. The is a shop that rents out spaces for ppl. Staff they provide. They take 10% komisen n rental.
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 11:25 AM)
Since the first thread is already over the limit , I decide to open v2 after asking permission from edyek.

This is a place for people to share their questions regarding on running their on small /medium biz or other inquires .

It's ok to ask on how to run a MLM / Direct Selling but please don't spam/promote it here.

My background , currently working in a MNC while selling burgers  at night  laugh.gif
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smile.gif Hi !
Thinking to open a burger stall in open food court . Was searching online for info and then i found this thread, great.
Mind to share some experiences ?
1. what is min capital to start up .
2. must buy the stall or can be rent one ( the stall with wheels ) ?
3.it's an open food court , like a street with rows of stall at the sides, do i need a licence to do y bizness there ?
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QUOTE(Jaeger26 @ Nov 7 2013, 05:52 PM)
smile.gif Hi !
Thinking to open a burger stall in open food court . Was searching online for info and then i found this thread, great.
Mind to share some experiences ?
1. what is min capital to start up .
2. must buy the stall or can be rent one ( the stall with wheels ) ?
3.it's an open food court , like a street with rows of stall at the sides, do i need a licence to do y bizness there ?
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1. It's depending on your setup - Depending on grills I would say safe to say , 3k should be enough for a stall
2. The stall can be rent , mine was Rm20/month
3. Depends whether it belongs to the council or private.
A)Private - No need , just need to discuss with kopitiam owner
B)Council - Yes , need permit and need to get the typhoid injection.


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I believe every food handler in Malaysia need to go through some course and get typhoid injection before operating. This should also apply to the stall operator?
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QUOTE(georgelimsk @ Nov 3 2013, 12:48 PM)
v2 already..

1st business = imported gummi bears (sweets)
capital = 1k
duration = 2 months (jan-feb 2011)
outcome = failed
reason = locals have no idea what is this. expensive.

2nd business = selling sweets and junk foods on tourist spots (part-time)
capital = few hundred. replenished locally
duration = 1 year (feb 2011 - jan 2012)
outcome = changed to selling ice cream
reason = cheap items, low sales, low margin. not so fast moving.

3rd business = selling ice cream on motorbike (full time after quit job)
capital = 4k
duration = 1 year (feb 2012-dec 2012)
outcome = changed to selling toys
reason = fast moving and low margin. hard labor and high cost for electric bill. enforcer kacau. weather dependant.

4rd business = selling fake legos on weekends
capital = 1k, replenish locally
duration = 1.5 yrs and on-going (since april 2012)

*back to employment since jan 2013 (office hours)

5rd business = selling women's accessories on rented spaces at shopping mall
capital = 2K
duration = since feb 2013
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The last time I saw your thread was selling ice cream. I see that your sales is quite good.
Why don't you continue with it?
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Hi everyone,

Wanna ask sifu how do you guys acquire businees partners or how do you guys come along? I have plenty of ideas i think would sell well as an entrepreneur but its hard to find someone who share the same mentality.
Anyone can shed some light?
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QUOTE(Bheestie Malaysia @ Nov 8 2013, 02:07 PM)
I believe every food handler in Malaysia need to go through some course and get typhoid injection before operating. This should also apply to the stall operator?
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Not all , private hawkers doesn't need .
When I worked in Starbucks yes , must have that injection

QUOTE(cravingstar @ Nov 8 2013, 06:28 PM)
Hi everyone,

Wanna ask sifu how do you guys acquire businees partners or how do you guys come along? I have plenty of ideas i think would sell well as an entrepreneur but its hard to find someone who share the same mentality.
Anyone can shed some light?
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Find people who is working in that field ?

Like F&B , you can ask those working in F&B to see if they want to chip in
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Nov 9 2013, 08:18 PM)
Not all , private hawkers doesn't need .
When I worked in Starbucks yes , must have that injection
Find people who is working in that field ?

Like F&B , you can ask those working in F&B to see if they want to chip in
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no not interested in people who has started the business, more like people who wants to start a new business and start up together!
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QUOTE(justaregularjoe @ Nov 10 2013, 10:14 PM)
no not interested in people who has started the business, more like people who wants to start a new business and start up together!
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erm...That's what I meant.

Find people who is related to that field and not outside of that field
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QUOTE(georgelimsk @ Nov 3 2013, 12:48 PM)
v2 already..

1st business = imported gummi bears (sweets)
capital = 1k
duration = 2 months (jan-feb 2011)
outcome = failed
reason = locals have no idea what is this. expensive.

2nd business = selling sweets and junk foods on tourist spots (part-time)
capital = few hundred. replenished locally
duration = 1 year (feb 2011 - jan 2012)
outcome = changed to selling ice cream
reason = cheap items, low sales, low margin. not so fast moving.

3rd business = selling ice cream on motorbike (full time after quit job)
capital = 4k
duration = 1 year (feb 2012-dec 2012)
outcome = changed to selling toys
reason = fast moving and low margin. hard labor and high cost for electric bill. enforcer kacau. weather dependant.

4rd business = selling fake legos on weekends
capital = 1k, replenish locally
duration = 1.5 yrs and on-going (since april 2012)

*back to employment since jan 2013 (office hours)

5rd business = selling women's accessories on rented spaces at shopping mall
capital = 2K
duration = since feb 2013
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is it something like they provide a cube box to place your stuff ?

how much is the rental per month btw ?? & how about the sales ?



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QUOTE(ghoss @ Nov 11 2013, 08:44 AM)
erm...That's what I meant.

Find people who is related to that field and not outside of that field
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how do i find people that re in the field? if f&b go in any restaurant worker and just ask wanna start a creative business idea? i dont want to find average joe, i wanna find someone who has the potential to think outside the box like me and start something great..
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QUOTE(justaregularjoe @ Nov 11 2013, 07:53 PM)
how do i find people that re in the field? if f&b go in any restaurant worker and just ask wanna start a creative business idea? i dont want to find average joe, i wanna find someone who has the potential to think outside the box like me and start something great..
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Erm... ask your friends ?If there is someone like that out there , don't you think that person might just want to do it all by himself ? icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Nov 12 2013, 10:21 AM)
Erm... ask your friends ?If there is someone like that out there , don't you think that person might just want to do it all by himself ?  icon_rolleyes.gif

People are not born great , they're made great .
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I am introvert type of guy, therefore not many friends, i would say most of my friends are like 99% 'worker type' (work-sleep-marry-child-vacation-pension)

Not really i am not doing by myself no? yea maybe i am lazy or havent thought of anything great or probably i cant do it (i dont know)

but i am really into looking for someone who has the potential and have lots of ideas in mind just doesnt know how to execute it like me. Besides Group>personal in all aspects.


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QUOTE(justaregularjoe @ Nov 12 2013, 02:42 PM)
I am introvert type of guy, therefore not many friends, i would say most of my friends are like 99% 'worker type' (work-sleep-marry-child-vacation-pension)

Not really i am not doing by myself no? yea maybe i am lazy or havent thought of anything great or probably i cant do it (i dont know)

but i am really into looking for someone who has the potential and have lots of ideas in mind just doesnt know how to execute it like me. Besides Group>personal in all aspects.
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hey bro i share the same passion and goals as u...im introvert as well but i slowly getting to know more ppl who dowan to b trapped in the rat race...but location might b troublesome..im in penang..i guessing u r in somewhere in KL?

This post has been edited by yamasce: Nov 12 2013, 03:14 PM
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It's good to have a business idea/concept. But lack of capitals to execute it.

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Hi to all sifus and everyone who are reading this, would really appreciate if you guys are willing to spend some time to read this and give some opinions/feed backs.

I worked in f&b line before this(my choice), studied overseas and came back, worked a couple years in reputable restaurants, and just recently quitted. The reason I quit is because its taking too much of my time, tiring, health become worse, no time for family and so on. I can't see myself continuing in this situation for long, the passion slowly goes of when problems kicking in.

I went on to take a course to be a certified ACE(American Council on Exercise) Personal Trainer, and currently waiting for the exam results. Sports have always been in my life, and I would want my future to be related to sports/fitness/health as well.

And then I have a thought. Since I play badminton with my high school friends sometimes, why not I provide them free coaching/training(I'm a former state player). I think it's a good way to build stronger relationship with friends and even networking.

And then slowly from word of mouth/friends introduced, if there's group of ppl who wants to improve their health overall, I will start conducting maybe boot camp style fitness sessions, for free, or minimal cost I don't know yet. Because I was thinking that maybe there are many ppl out there who would like to do some exercise, but doesn't want to pay the premium price, and I'm just trying to make things happen for them, or as a way to contribute to the society.(don't know why already thinking of contributing to society even before I earn money, maybe read and saw a lot of news on bad things happening on other ppl, made me feel that even that I'm not rich but I'm already very much luckier than many other ppl out there).

And later on when I'm known by more ppl, I will take in personal training clients, but this I will charge because it's like one on one and the programme is specially designed for each different individual.

My reasons/objectives for all this is to know more ppl, make more ppl know me, build a big network, contribute to society, and leave something for ppl to remember about me when I'm not here anymore*touchwood, or like ppl say, creating legacy.

So could you guys give some feed backs and opinions regarding this, do you think this is workable? Or will I be bankrupt even before I start earning money? Is this not practical at all? Thank you in advance...smile.gif
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QUOTE(yamasce @ Nov 12 2013, 03:12 PM)
hey bro i share the same passion and goals as u...im introvert as well but i slowly getting to know more ppl who dowan to b trapped in the rat race...but location might b troublesome..im in penang..i guessing u r in somewhere in KL?
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yep, around KL/PJ area.
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Hi all,

Need some opinion.

My dad & him brother had a land. Lately my uncle inform my dad said he want to invest by building few room space for rental.
Because nearby area gov building a big O&G Project, so many outsider coming for rental.

Cost : RM35k for 3 room
Facility : Bed, Air Cond & Share Bathroom
Monthly rental : RM800 per room, including water/electricity
Target customer : Long term for worker in O&G nearby

Investment cost return : 1.5-2years

I thinking for long term investment if constantly able rent, I will reinvest the money to build up the area (Land is big, 4 hector)
My uncle will help me manage the area as he just stay on same place.


My question as below
1. Does I need to register as business(SSM) for expenses & budget control? (Does SSM is the correct path?) http://www.ssm.com.my/en
2. The initial cost will only from me, I had verbally discuss and agree with my uncle, all initial investment will return to me first. Once clear, he will permanent get certain %
Does we need an agreement to protect me & him?? (through lawyer firm?)
3. I'm thinking related utility/bill will register under above business, so we able tracking how expenses claiming.
4. Any other miss out area?
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hi all,

any good idea of start a business with rm50k lately?
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hi all,

any good idea of start a business with rm50k lately?
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lol any business experience? any good idea? if u dun hv i suggest u start by learning and/or JV with other experienced ppl 1st..or if dowan so hassle can invest in multiple channels..im doing abit of both..u can pm me if u r interested to know..im willing to share with u
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hi all,

I'd like to enquire about the maid agency business in Malaysia.
I understand the business requires a license to operate. Anyone knows about the license, how much it costs, renewal period etc?

I have an opportunity to maybe purchase one from a relative.
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QUOTE(cravingstar @ Nov 8 2013, 06:28 PM)
Hi everyone,

Wanna ask sifu how do you guys acquire businees partners or how do you guys come along? I have plenty of ideas i think would sell well as an entrepreneur but its hard to find someone who share the same mentality.
Anyone can shed some light?
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Hi,

Just to let you know, we are also looking for a business to venture in, as an added advantage, we already have an office and storage space if needed. We do not mind sharing our decent office space if needed.

So you or anyone here have an new idea on a new business?

Also, any online fashion/shoe boutique looking for a storage space or office? (as long as its clean and dry items). we are most welcome ~!~

We are Chinese and based in PJ.....
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QUOTE(justaregularjoe @ Nov 12 2013, 02:42 PM)
I am introvert type of guy, therefore not many friends, i would say most of my friends are like 99% 'worker type' (work-sleep-marry-child-vacation-pension)

Not really i am not doing by myself no? yea maybe i am lazy or havent thought of anything great or probably i cant do it (i dont know)

but i am really into looking for someone who has the potential and have lots of ideas in mind just doesnt know how to execute it like me. Besides Group>personal in all aspects.
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i would say that perhaps you should look for someone that do not reject creative thinking, but do have a practical execution.
personally i will prefer different type of ppl in 1 group, to compliment each other, rather to have a group of creative ppl nor a group of good execution.
i believe either that will lead to nowhere compare to a group that able to compliment each other.
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QUOTE(Jeck10 @ Nov 12 2013, 04:55 PM)
Hi to all sifus and everyone who are reading this, would really appreciate if you guys are willing to spend some time to read this and give some opinions/feed backs.

I worked in f&b line before this(my choice), studied overseas and came back, worked a couple years in reputable restaurants, and just recently quitted. The reason I quit is because its taking too much of my time, tiring, health become worse, no time for family and so on. I can't see myself continuing in this situation for long, the passion slowly goes of when problems kicking in.

I went on to take a course to be a certified ACE(American Council on Exercise) Personal Trainer, and currently waiting for the exam results. Sports have always been in my life, and I would want my future to be related to sports/fitness/health as well.

And then I have a thought. Since I play badminton with my high school friends sometimes, why not I provide them free coaching/training(I'm a former state player). I think it's a good way to build stronger relationship with friends and even networking.

And then slowly from word of mouth/friends introduced, if there's  group of ppl who wants to improve their health overall, I will start conducting maybe boot camp style fitness sessions, for free, or minimal cost I don't know yet. Because I was thinking that maybe there are many ppl out there who would like to do some exercise, but doesn't want to pay the premium price, and I'm just trying to make things happen for them, or as a way to contribute to the society.(don't know why already thinking of contributing to society even before I earn money, maybe read and saw a lot of news on bad things happening on other ppl, made me feel that even that I'm not rich but I'm already very much luckier than many other ppl out there).

And later on when I'm known by more ppl, I will take in personal training clients, but this I will charge because it's like one on one and the programme is specially designed for each different individual.

My reasons/objectives for all this is to know more ppl, make more ppl know me, build a big network, contribute to society, and leave something for ppl to remember about me when I'm not here anymore*touchwood, or like ppl say, creating legacy.

So could you guys give some feed backs and opinions regarding this, do you think this is workable? Or will I be bankrupt even  before I start earning money? Is this not practical at all? Thank you in advance...smile.gif
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Please do not feel shame on charge client for your service. If you got a method to improve other people health or improve player skill, then don't feel ashamed to take money from your client. You can expand your network and meet friend in this way too, in fact this is better. You able to filter those trying to take advantage & less value people.

Feed yourself before you can contribute to society. If you barely support your minimum living expenses, improve your income before you want to contribute to society.

This post has been edited by LawrenceTan: Nov 17 2013, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(Jeck10 @ Nov 12 2013, 04:55 PM)
Hi to all sifus and everyone who are reading this, would really appreciate if you guys are willing to spend some time to read this and give some opinions/feed backs.

I worked in f&b line before this(my choice), studied overseas and came back, worked a couple years in reputable restaurants, and just recently quitted. The reason I quit is because its taking too much of my time, tiring, health become worse, no time for family and so on. I can't see myself continuing in this situation for long, the passion slowly goes of when problems kicking in.

I went on to take a course to be a certified ACE(American Council on Exercise) Personal Trainer, and currently waiting for the exam results. Sports have always been in my life, and I would want my future to be related to sports/fitness/health as well.

And then I have a thought. Since I play badminton with my high school friends sometimes, why not I provide them free coaching/training(I'm a former state player). I think it's a good way to build stronger relationship with friends and even networking.

And then slowly from word of mouth/friends introduced, if there's  group of ppl who wants to improve their health overall, I will start conducting maybe boot camp style fitness sessions, for free, or minimal cost I don't know yet. Because I was thinking that maybe there are many ppl out there who would like to do some exercise, but doesn't want to pay the premium price, and I'm just trying to make things happen for them, or as a way to contribute to the society.(don't know why already thinking of contributing to society even before I earn money, maybe read and saw a lot of news on bad things happening on other ppl, made me feel that even that I'm not rich but I'm already very much luckier than many other ppl out there).

And later on when I'm known by more ppl, I will take in personal training clients, but this I will charge because it's like one on one and the programme is specially designed for each different individual.

My reasons/objectives for all this is to know more ppl, make more ppl know me, build a big network, contribute to society, and leave something for ppl to remember about me when I'm not here anymore*touchwood, or like ppl say, creating legacy.

So could you guys give some feed backs and opinions regarding this, do you think this is workable? Or will I be bankrupt even  before I start earning money? Is this not practical at all? Thank you in advance...smile.gif
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you r making urself as a valuable asset and building a profile your self.
not so easy to go bankrupt, as I believe u r a problem solver person, as u know ur way to lowyat to collect more information.
I believe in real life you will do much better, in addition, your line of business does not need high capital and fixed cost, is convenient.
utilize on ur skill and talent, is almost the best to be working on something that you like, making hobby as ur earning power.

all the best bro !

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QUOTE(Jeck10 @ Nov 12 2013, 04:55 PM)
So could you guys give some feed backs and opinions regarding this, do you think this is workable? Or will I be bankrupt even  before I start earning money? Is this not practical at all? Thank you in advance...smile.gif
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Boss, how can you become bankrupt before you start earning money? You have multiple loans that needs to pay?

Being bankrupt is about personal finance nothing to do with your enterprenuer ship. I dont think you will need to borrow loans to start up your business since your start up require only little capital or none at all.

And food for thought, are you sure by providing only coaching you can earn a decent income? Or you still need a 8-5 job or other income to support yourself?

Cheers.
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Hi all. I was wondering, for items such as video games and mobile phone accessories, do I need any special license or permit to sell them? With whom could I enquire regarding license and permits, SSM?
I've tried searching but couldn't find any info for Malaysia. I did found that license is not required to sell video games in other countries, but I'm not sure about Malaysia.

Thanks.





QUOTE(Jeck10 @ Nov 12 2013, 04:55 PM)
Hi to all sifus and everyone who are reading this, would really appreciate if you guys are willing to spend some time to read this and give some opinions/feed backs.

I worked in f&b line before this(my choice), studied overseas and came back, worked a couple years in reputable restaurants, and just recently quitted. The reason I quit is because its taking too much of my time, tiring, health become worse, no time for family and so on. I can't see myself continuing in this situation for long, the passion slowly goes of when problems kicking in.

I went on to take a course to be a certified ACE(American Council on Exercise) Personal Trainer, and currently waiting for the exam results. Sports have always been in my life, and I would want my future to be related to sports/fitness/health as well.

And then I have a thought. Since I play badminton with my high school friends sometimes, why not I provide them free coaching/training(I'm a former state player). I think it's a good way to build stronger relationship with friends and even networking.

And then slowly from word of mouth/friends introduced, if there's  group of ppl who wants to improve their health overall, I will start conducting maybe boot camp style fitness sessions, for free, or minimal cost I don't know yet. Because I was thinking that maybe there are many ppl out there who would like to do some exercise, but doesn't want to pay the premium price, and I'm just trying to make things happen for them, or as a way to contribute to the society.(don't know why already thinking of contributing to society even before I earn money, maybe read and saw a lot of news on bad things happening on other ppl, made me feel that even that I'm not rich but I'm already very much luckier than many other ppl out there).

And later on when I'm known by more ppl, I will take in personal training clients, but this I will charge because it's like one on one and the programme is specially designed for each different individual.

My reasons/objectives for all this is to know more ppl, make more ppl know me, build a big network, contribute to society, and leave something for ppl to remember about me when I'm not here anymore*touchwood, or like ppl say, creating legacy.

So could you guys give some feed backs and opinions regarding this, do you think this is workable? Or will I be bankrupt even  before I start earning money? Is this not practical at all? Thank you in advance...smile.gif
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Services business such as coaching are quite low risk due to the low capital required, it will not make you go bankrupt. If you have the passion for it, go for it bro. Perhaps you could focus on coaching school children, help them develop their potential. Parents are more likely to pay a fee for badminton coaching services for their children, in my opinion. Also some of these children might make it to the international level, like Datuk Lee Chong Wei. If so, you will achieve your goal of contributing to the society. rclxms.gif

Alternatively, if you need some side income you could consider attaching yourself to local universities or colleges. They usually have sports subject, such as badminton. They may consider hiring your services, either part time or full time, for both theoretical/practcal badminton coaching. Good luck bro. smile.gif


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Nice thread smile.gif I will check in often to get inspired.

I am 23 and working as an admin assistant. My salary not much but I manage to save up a little this year.

Currently I have RM20k saving but not sure what to do with it. Thought of going into FOREX but too afraid to take the risk because I am so unfamiliar with it.

Thinking of an alternative, maybe start-up a side business. If have any idea I hope I can share and discuss here. Or if anyone have any suggestion, I am willing to listen as well wink.gif
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Nov 18 2013, 11:37 AM)
Hi all. I was wondering, for items such as video games and mobile phone accessories, do I need any special license or permit to sell them? With whom could I enquire regarding license and permits, SSM?
I've tried searching but couldn't find any info for Malaysia. I did found that license is not required to sell video games in other countries, but I'm not sure about Malaysia.

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SSM is for you to register your company. My friend used to sell phone accessories. Never heard of him getting any special license for this. You can get more info from the SSM office in KL Sentral or The Mall (near PWTC). Malaysia everything is 'hidden'. Need to dig hard to get info lar bro.

QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Nov 18 2013, 11:37 AM)
Services business such as coaching are quite low risk due to the low capital required, it will not make you go bankrupt. If you have the passion for it, go for it bro. Perhaps you could focus on coaching school children, help them develop their potential. Parents are more likely to pay a fee for badminton coaching services for their children, in my opinion. Also some of these children might make it to the international level, like Datuk Lee Chong Wei. If so, you will achieve your goal of contributing to the society.  rclxms.gif

Alternatively, if you need some side income you could consider attaching yourself to local universities or colleges. They usually have sports subject, such as badminton. They may consider hiring your services, either part time or full time, for both theoretical/practcal badminton coaching. Good luck bro. smile.gif
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+1. The risk for service line is always lower. I think do-able since nowadays seems like ppl is having higher degree of health conscious. flex.gif
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QUOTE(kenneths88 @ Nov 8 2013, 02:47 PM)
The last time I saw your thread was selling ice cream. I see that your sales is quite good.
Why don't you continue with it?
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low margin. tough work. average u can sell 100 a day. profit 40 only. weekends can sell about 200-300. that makes 80-120. if u get an office hour job that pays u 2000. i don advise u to sell ice cream, 40x20 (weekdays) = 800. if u sell on weekends is oklo. btw i sell toys on weekends. every 100 u earn 60. average sale per weekends is 600. (60x60=360) 1 month 360x4 weekends = 1440. if u work full time 2000+1440. that is good.
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QUOTE(skloda @ Nov 11 2013, 10:27 AM)
is it something like they provide a cube box to place your stuff ?

how much is the rental per month btw ?? & how about the sales ?
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yes. some place offer cube box (rm200-250). my rental is rm450 for about 3x1.5sqft at gurney plaza penang
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QUOTE(georgelimsk @ Nov 18 2013, 04:26 PM)
low margin. tough work. average u can sell 100 a day. profit 40 only. weekends can sell about 200-300. that makes 80-120. if u get an office hour job that pays u 2000. i don advise u to sell ice cream, 40x20 (weekdays) = 800. if u sell on weekends is oklo. btw i sell toys on weekends. every 100 u earn 60. average sale per weekends is 600. (60x60=360) 1 month 360x4 weekends = 1440. if u work full time 2000+1440. that is good.
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Means you are working now right?
Ok I get it. Good luck to you rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Bali ais @ Nov 18 2013, 02:12 PM)
SSM is for you to register your company. My friend used to sell phone accessories. Never heard of him getting any special license for this. You can get more info from the SSM office in KL Sentral or The Mall (near PWTC). Malaysia everything is 'hidden'. Need to dig hard to get info lar bro.
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Haha.. True bro. I'll try contacting SSM and ask, just to be sure. Thanks.
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 17 2013, 11:39 PM)
i would say that perhaps you should look for someone that do not reject creative thinking, but do have a practical execution.
personally i will prefer different type of ppl in 1 group, to compliment each other, rather to have a group of creative ppl nor a group of good execution.
i believe either that will lead to nowhere compare to a group that able to compliment each other.
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yeah but any idea where to start?
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QUOTE(WisdomTrumps @ Nov 18 2013, 12:46 PM)
Nice thread smile.gif I will check in often to get inspired.

I am 23 and working as an admin assistant. My salary not much but I manage to save up a little this year.

Currently I have RM20k saving but not sure what to do with it. Thought of going into FOREX but too afraid to take the risk because I am so unfamiliar with it.

Thinking of an alternative, maybe start-up a side business. If have any idea I hope I can share and discuss here. Or if anyone have any suggestion, I am willing to listen as well wink.gif
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Great start and i saw discipline in you albeit at young age.
I would say perhaps you can go for share market? start off with those blue chips to earn div (higher than FD) and you can learn how to trade if you want.
Alternatively, if you have time to spare, you can start off some online business.
Eventually when you have more saving, then you can start to consider whether 1 to open a shop or your own business or not.

this is how i thought smile.gif
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 20 2013, 11:56 AM)
Great start and i saw discipline in you albeit at young age.
I would say perhaps you can go for share market? start off with those blue chips to earn div (higher than FD) and you can learn how to trade if you want.
Alternatively, if you have time to spare, you can start off some online business.
Eventually when you have more saving, then you can start to consider whether 1 to open a shop or your own business or not.

this is how i thought  smile.gif
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Thanks for the the advice smile.gif

I have too look into those options, now I am just planning how to balance my portfolio (Investment:Saving).
Once I decided how much I can put into investment, then I will plan my execution.

These few days I have been looking into Franchising. There are a few "affordable" one that I see potential to operate in the market from where I am now.
But further research (more like common sense) shows that there are actually many hidden costs past the initial capital investment/development cost.
Which I don't think I could afford right at this moment. In addition, loan application maybe a little difficult as I have only work for a year and I don't have any credit history (not sure if its a good thing). The other alternative is I could gather other investors to finance the business.

Therefore, I would be aiming at growing my capital either through investment/ low capital business or services and build my network in search of potential partners/investors.


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QUOTE(justaregularjoe @ Nov 19 2013, 04:35 PM)
yeah but any idea where to start?
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You can do so through internet if you are comfortable with
I would still thiink it is the best to start off with someone around you, perhaps ex colleague, friends of colleague, relatives etc.
you can try to spread the news that you are interested with some kind of business and wish to look for someone that share the same thought

QUOTE(WisdomTrumps @ Nov 22 2013, 12:03 PM)
Thanks for the the advice smile.gif

I have too look into those options, now I am just planning how to balance my portfolio (Investment:Saving).
Once I decided how much I can put into investment, then I will plan my execution.

These few days I have been looking into Franchising. There are a few "affordable" one that I see potential to operate in the market from where I am now.
But further research (more like common sense) shows that there are actually many hidden costs past the initial capital investment/development cost.
Which I don't think I could afford right at this moment. In addition, loan application maybe a little difficult as I have only work for a year and I don't have any credit history (not sure if its a good thing). The other alternative is I could gather other investors to finance the business.

Therefore, I would be aiming at growing my capital either through investment/ low capital business or services and build my network in search of potential partners/investors.
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I think aside initial capital, you should still need some working capital to make sure the business has sufficient funds to operate.
I am not really familiar with this.

Or perhaps you could share with us your finding? to benefit everyone of here and they can share some advice with you too if they have.
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2013, 10:23 PM)
You can do so through internet if you are comfortable with
I would still thiink it is the best to start off with someone around you, perhaps ex colleague, friends of colleague, relatives etc.
you can try to spread the news that you are interested with some kind of business and wish to look for someone that share the same thought
I think aside initial capital, you should still need some working capital to make sure the business has sufficient funds to operate.
I am not really familiar with this.

Or perhaps you could share with us your finding? to benefit everyone of here and they can share some advice with you too if they have.
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I brought that up with my partners. To be frank, we are of lacking practical experience, among us I probably have more exposure to the business world for things such as legal requirement & business procedure. We are planning to get a more experience person on board or just consult friends or elders who are already in the field to give us some pointers.

I suggest all potential new business owner first read up on the legal requirement to start a business or company. The resources are available online such as http://www.ssm.com.my/.

Secondly, have someone challenge your idea, no matter how good or perfect you think your idea is, there will be flaws.


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Hi want to share something here for those who are very green and unfamiliar with business (like me). Here's what I learnt, the hard way, when trying to contact suppliers:

1. If your capital is small, and you are likely to make small orders when purchasing wholesale, a lot of suppliers will choose to ignore you cause you are simply not worth their time. Sad, harsh, but understandable... sad.gif

2. If you email them using a generic email (i.e. hotmail, gmail) they will ignore you as they don't think you are a serious businessman. Your email may even get caught in their spam filter.

3. The biggest thing: Finding out the price you need to pay for wholesale products. Now to us laymen, if you want to sell a product, surely you must have a price for it. The prices are like holy grails to suppliers, they keep it very close to their chests and would never reveal their wholesale prices easily. Most suppliers would like proof that you are a genuine businessman before revealing their wholesale prices, such as business registration.

So here is the conundrum, you are trying to do a business research, trying to determine if a particular business is profitable and worth investing in. So you would like to know the cost of goods to estimate potential profits. But suppliers would generally ignore you unless you are a registered business with a business email address aka serious customer. It doesn't make much sense for a person to register a business, only to find after obtaining price quotations that he/she doesn't find the profit attractive enough to pursue the business. So you end up caught in a Catch-22 situation. rclxub.gif

Solution? I'm not sure I have any.... How to avoid email being ignored? Perhaps phone calls to suppliers are harder to ignore. brows.gif Or save up till you have a large capital, then wave it in front of the faces of those suppliers to show that you are a potential big customer, then maybe they will be more cooperative. laugh.gif

For me, I'm going to give up trying to start a video games selling business for now. Perhaps I'll try looking into a business that requires lower capital, low value goods.... Or maybe services based business. Save up more money in the near future. So yea, a hard lesson I learnt which I want to share to those who are looking to enter into the business world. I wasted time, energy and also embarassed myself in the process of learning this lesson. But at least I didn't lose any money. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Nov 29 2013, 08:50 PM)
Hi want to share something here for those who are very green and unfamiliar with business (like me). Here's what I learnt, the hard way, when trying to contact suppliers:

1. If your capital is small, and you are likely to make small orders when purchasing wholesale, a lot of suppliers will choose to ignore you cause you are simply not worth their time. Sad, harsh, but understandable...  sad.gif

2. If you email them using a generic email (i.e. hotmail, gmail) they will ignore you as they don't think you are a serious businessman. Your email may even get caught in their spam filter.

3. The biggest thing: Finding out the price you need to pay for wholesale products. Now to us laymen, if you want to sell a product, surely you must have a price for it. The prices are like holy grails to suppliers, they keep it very close to their chests and would never reveal their wholesale prices easily. Most suppliers would like proof that you are a genuine businessman before revealing their wholesale prices, such as business registration.

So here is the conundrum, you are trying to do a business research, trying to determine if a particular business is profitable and worth investing in. So you would like to know the cost of goods to estimate potential profits. But suppliers would generally ignore you unless you are a registered business with a business email address aka serious customer. It doesn't make much sense for a person to register a business, only to find after obtaining price quotations that he/she doesn't find the profit attractive enough to pursue the business. So you end up caught in a Catch-22 situation.  rclxub.gif

Solution? I'm not sure I have any.... How to avoid email being ignored? Perhaps phone calls to suppliers are harder to ignore. brows.gif Or save up till you have a large capital, then wave it in front of the faces of those suppliers to show that you are a potential big customer, then maybe they will be more cooperative.  laugh.gif

For me, I'm going to give up trying to start a video games selling business for now. Perhaps I'll try looking into a business that requires lower capital, low value goods.... Or maybe services based business. Save up more money in the near future. So yea, a hard lesson I learnt which I want to share to those who are looking to enter into the business world. I wasted time, energy and also embarassed myself in the process of learning this lesson. But at least I didn't lose any money.  laugh.gif
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kudos to you atleats you have the gut to start from somewhere!
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kudos to you atleats you have the gut to start from somewhere!
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Thanks bro. I guess if we want to make it in business we should learn to accept occasional failures in what we do, learn from it, and try again! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Nov 29 2013, 08:50 PM)
Hi want to share something here for those who are very green and unfamiliar with business (like me). Here's what I learnt, the hard way, when trying to contact suppliers:

1. If your capital is small, and you are likely to make small orders when purchasing wholesale, a lot of suppliers will choose to ignore you cause you are simply not worth their time. Sad, harsh, but understandable...  sad.gif

2. If you email them using a generic email (i.e. hotmail, gmail) they will ignore you as they don't think you are a serious businessman. Your email may even get caught in their spam filter.

3. The biggest thing: Finding out the price you need to pay for wholesale products. Now to us laymen, if you want to sell a product, surely you must have a price for it. The prices are like holy grails to suppliers, they keep it very close to their chests and would never reveal their wholesale prices easily. Most suppliers would like proof that you are a genuine businessman before revealing their wholesale prices, such as business registration.

So here is the conundrum, you are trying to do a business research, trying to determine if a particular business is profitable and worth investing in. So you would like to know the cost of goods to estimate potential profits. But suppliers would generally ignore you unless you are a registered business with a business email address aka serious customer. It doesn't make much sense for a person to register a business, only to find after obtaining price quotations that he/she doesn't find the profit attractive enough to pursue the business. So you end up caught in a Catch-22 situation.  rclxub.gif

Solution? I'm not sure I have any.... How to avoid email being ignored? Perhaps phone calls to suppliers are harder to ignore. brows.gif Or save up till you have a large capital, then wave it in front of the faces of those suppliers to show that you are a potential big customer, then maybe they will be more cooperative.  laugh.gif

For me, I'm going to give up trying to start a video games selling business for now. Perhaps I'll try looking into a business that requires lower capital, low value goods.... Or maybe services based business. Save up more money in the near future. So yea, a hard lesson I learnt which I want to share to those who are looking to enter into the business world. I wasted time, energy and also embarassed myself in the process of learning this lesson. But at least I didn't lose any money.  laugh.gif
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It is understandable.
Even banks won't fund rm10k to you, whether your business proposal is flawless.

They need at least 3 years of experience in the field, before you can start walking into banks and talk.
Harsh but true market.
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Just want to ask sifu here.

A trading Business

A trader and A sole distributor.

If a sole distributor do not set a retail price for a product, no advertisement done and nothing on the product, mainly based on word of mouth only.

Is that worth marketing the product? Is it wise to advertise, promote and having exhibition?

Thanks notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Nov 29 2013, 08:50 PM)
Hi want to share something here for those who are very green and unfamiliar with business (like me). Here's what I learnt, the hard way, when trying to contact suppliers:

1. If your capital is small, and you are likely to make small orders when purchasing wholesale, a lot of suppliers will choose to ignore you cause you are simply not worth their time. Sad, harsh, but understandable...  sad.gif

2. If you email them using a generic email (i.e. hotmail, gmail) they will ignore you as they don't think you are a serious businessman. Your email may even get caught in their spam filter.

3. The biggest thing: Finding out the price you need to pay for wholesale products. Now to us laymen, if you want to sell a product, surely you must have a price for it. The prices are like holy grails to suppliers, they keep it very close to their chests and would never reveal their wholesale prices easily. Most suppliers would like proof that you are a genuine businessman before revealing their wholesale prices, such as business registration.

So here is the conundrum, you are trying to do a business research, trying to determine if a particular business is profitable and worth investing in. So you would like to know the cost of goods to estimate potential profits. But suppliers would generally ignore you unless you are a registered business with a business email address aka serious customer. It doesn't make much sense for a person to register a business, only to find after obtaining price quotations that he/she doesn't find the profit attractive enough to pursue the business. So you end up caught in a Catch-22 situation.  rclxub.gif

Solution? I'm not sure I have any.... How to avoid email being ignored? Perhaps phone calls to suppliers are harder to ignore. brows.gif Or save up till you have a large capital, then wave it in front of the faces of those suppliers to show that you are a potential big customer, then maybe they will be more cooperative.  laugh.gif

For me, I'm going to give up trying to start a video games selling business for now. Perhaps I'll try looking into a business that requires lower capital, low value goods.... Or maybe services based business. Save up more money in the near future. So yea, a hard lesson I learnt which I want to share to those who are looking to enter into the business world. I wasted time, energy and also embarassed myself in the process of learning this lesson. But at least I didn't lose any money.  laugh.gif
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Thanks for sharing. I went through the same thing while I was in University but I'm glad I learnt that lesson before I invest any money.

My solution to that now is through networking, you might be able to meet someone/friend who is a supplier that willing to do business with you. For someone like me who used to be very introvert & shy, I could understand for some people that it is difficult to approach strangers but I'm glad I got over that.

Good Luck to you thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Babablacksheep @ Nov 29 2013, 11:40 PM)
It is understandable.
Even banks won't fund rm10k to you, whether your business proposal is flawless.

They need at least 3 years of experience in the field, before you can start walking into banks and talk.
Harsh but true market.
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From others experience, usually bank only give you loan when your business is stable.

I'm not too sure myself if that's the whole truth. Despite that, I'm sure there are other ways to get funded for your business start-up other than a bank loan.
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QUOTE(kenneths88 @ Dec 2 2013, 02:01 PM)
Just want to ask sifu here.

A trading Business

A trader and A sole distributor.

If a sole distributor do not set a retail price for a product, no advertisement done and nothing on the product, mainly based on word of mouth only.

Is that worth marketing the product? Is it wise to advertise, promote and having exhibition?

Thanks  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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imho, advertisement is essential to promote your product. even McD, a well-known global brand still engage in consumer targeted advertising.

just want to ask further, what do you mean by "do not set a retail price for a product"? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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I think aside initial capital, you should still need some working capital to make sure the business has sufficient funds to operate.
I am not really familiar with this.
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Yes you need funds for;

1) Capital expenditures aka capex - usually the sunk cost to setup the business renovation, furniture etc.
2) Operation expenditures aka opex - the cost of running the business e.g. salary, utilities, rental etc.

Capex is easier to plan & forecast, just give yourself like 15% - 25% room for deviations.

Opex is the tricky one cause people tend to miss out some small things that eventually could add up into a large sum. This is the one people often recommend to have at least 6 months worth funds, the more the better of course but too much may indicate that you aren't fully utilizing your funds. You most probably will be running at a loss for several months, break even for several more months & finally start to earn a little after a year or so.

Some business has good potential, but like most of the things in the world, it takes time to grow. So don't give up just because you see RED during the beginning. But do set a loss cutting point & be disciplined on it to save yourself from getting into too much trouble.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Dec 2 2013, 03:07 PM)
imho, advertisement is essential to promote your product. even McD, a well-known global brand still engage in consumer targeted advertising.

just want to ask further, what do you mean by "do not set a retail price for a product"?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Which means, there is no Market Price for that product.

Example, company sells product A at RM30.
They stated that product can be sold in the market up to RM120. (They seems like unsure how much people are selling in the market)

Which means, there is no fixed price in the market, which end up some people selling RM40, some people selling RM80 and some people selling at RM120.

My perception : If I will to sell it at RM100, some people would feedback that I am selling it too expensive (If they ever get any cheaper ones)

My meaning of retail price is - On the product label, printed Retail Recommended Price : RM120.

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I have a question for sifus-sifus here.
Who have experience loan with TEKUN?

Thanks for share.
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QUOTE(WisdomTrumps @ Dec 2 2013, 02:45 PM)
Thanks for sharing. I went through the same thing while I was in University but I'm glad I learnt that lesson before I invest any money.

My solution to that now is through networking, you might be able to meet someone/friend who is a supplier that willing to do business with you. For someone like me who used to be very introvert & shy, I could understand for some people that it is difficult to approach strangers but I'm glad I got over that.

Good Luck to you  thumbup.gif
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As a matter of fact, I am pretty much an introvert as well. Which is why e-commerce is something I am more interested rather than brick-and-mortar shop. More online dealings than face-to-face dealings. I will have to improve my networking and my social skills. Thanks for the advise bro.
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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Dec 2 2013, 04:04 PM)
Yes you need funds for;

1) Capital expenditures aka capex - usually the sunk cost to setup the business renovation, furniture etc.
2) Operation expenditures aka opex - the cost of running the business e.g. salary, utilities, rental etc.

Capex is easier to plan & forecast, just give yourself like 15% - 25% room for deviations.

Opex is the tricky one cause people tend to miss out some small things that eventually could add up into a large sum. This is the one people often recommend to have at least 6 months worth funds, the more the better of course but too much may indicate that you aren't fully utilizing your funds. You most probably will be running at a loss for several months, break even for several more months & finally start to earn a little after a year or so.

Some business has good potential, but like most of the things in the world, it takes time to grow. So don't give up just because you see RED during the beginning. But do set a loss cutting point & be disciplined on it to save yourself from getting into too much trouble.
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Thanks for sharing. Haha i never heard of those terminology but now I know smile.gif

I will remember your advise when I'm planning out my financial plan/strategy. I do make it a general rule to est. more for expenses & costs and less for income. I understand there may be some hidden cost that might be easily missed out.

Yea I agree, depending on your business, the pattern will varies. Some business would see high profit at the start but hard to maintain, some business will take time to build up. For me, I am aiming for profit sustainable business regardless of factors such as political or economical.

QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Dec 2 2013, 08:20 PM)
As a matter of fact, I am pretty much an introvert as well. Which is why e-commerce is something I am more interested rather than brick-and-mortar shop. More online dealings than face-to-face dealings. I will have to improve my networking and my social skills. Thanks for the advise bro.
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You're welcome.

My experience how I become more social and comfortable around people, I did so by joining clubs and social activities. Join international club such as Lion, Rotary, Toastmasters, etc. Join a sport team or a gaming team. It was exhausting for me in the beginning, it felt like each outing drains me mentally but I got used to it and learn how to enjoy myself around people.

All the best to you smile.gif

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I started a biz on november 2012. The best advise i would recommend to you is that please avoid biz with friends/relative and the most important part is B&W. Yes everything need B&W. Dont fall with janji janji manis. I sudah kena and now insaf already.
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 3 2013, 01:52 AM)
I started a biz on november 2012. The best advise i would recommend to you is that please avoid biz with friends/relative and the most important part is B&W. Yes everything need B&W. Dont fall with janji janji manis. I sudah kena and now insaf already.
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Thanks Donphatz for sharing.

I agree that everything should be in B&W!

To your point about doing biz with friends and relative, I feel it really depends on your understanding and relationship with that person. There are plenty of people who advice against this but there are also plenty that succeeded by working with family or friends.

Regardless who you are partnering up with, i think it's important that the both of you are comfortable enough to share everything and be straight with one another. Cause in the end, a weak partnership could break your business.

Good luck to you and hope your biz well.
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 3 2013, 01:52 AM)
I started a biz on november 2012. The best advise i would recommend to you is that please avoid biz with friends/relative and the most important part is B&W. Yes everything need B&W. Dont fall with janji janji manis. I sudah kena and now insaf already.
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I guess I seen this kind of story before from sifu sifu from this thread. Partnership, got to be very careful.

Btw, direct family like Father & Son is ok as we don't look at $$ too tightly biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kenneths88 @ Dec 3 2013, 01:06 PM)
I guess I seen this kind of story before from sifu sifu from this thread. Partnership, got to be very careful.

Btw, direct family like Father & Son is ok as we don't look at $$ too tightly  biggrin.gif
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Provided son or father are not a gambler. I have a friend his father was a gambler, after they make some money his father start to have the habit to gamble again and in the end company wind up as well.

my advice is try to not hook up with any family members especially in business if possible, even though hiring a relative is a trouble also. You put your family relationship in steep when allocate workload, increase wages and firing if the person is not good.
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Hi want to share something here for those who are very green and unfamiliar with business (like me). Here's what I learnt, the hard way, when trying to contact suppliers:

1. If your capital is small, and you are likely to make small orders when purchasing wholesale, a lot of suppliers will choose to ignore you cause you are simply not worth their time. Sad, harsh, but understandable...  sad.gif

2. If you email them using a generic email (i.e. hotmail, gmail) they will ignore you as they don't think you are a serious businessman. Your email may even get caught in their spam filter.

3. The biggest thing: Finding out the price you need to pay for wholesale products. Now to us laymen, if you want to sell a product, surely you must have a price for it. The prices are like holy grails to suppliers, they keep it very close to their chests and would never reveal their wholesale prices easily. Most suppliers would like proof that you are a genuine businessman before revealing their wholesale prices, such as business registration.

So here is the conundrum, you are trying to do a business research, trying to determine if a particular business is profitable and worth investing in. So you would like to know the cost of goods to estimate potential profits. But suppliers would generally ignore you unless you are a registered business with a business email address aka serious customer. It doesn't make much sense for a person to register a business, only to find after obtaining price quotations that he/she doesn't find the profit attractive enough to pursue the business. So you end up caught in a Catch-22 situation.  rclxub.gif

Solution? I'm not sure I have any.... How to avoid email being ignored? Perhaps phone calls to suppliers are harder to ignore. brows.gif Or save up till you have a large capital, then wave it in front of the faces of those suppliers to show that you are a potential big customer, then maybe they will be more cooperative.  laugh.gif

For me, I'm going to give up trying to start a video games selling business for now. Perhaps I'll try looking into a business that requires lower capital, low value goods.... Or maybe services based business. Save up more money in the near future. So yea, a hard lesson I learnt which I want to share to those who are looking to enter into the business world. I wasted time, energy and also embarassed myself in the process of learning this lesson. But at least I didn't lose any money.  laugh.gif
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Thanks for your sharing dragontongue88, I believed it will help a lot of fresh individual who like to kickstart a micro trading business.

Starting a business is not an easy task, you require marketing,financial,legal,accounting,inventory,sales knowledge to run a business. Plan a financial budget and manage your own risk is the key to minimize your rish to failure. thumbup.gif
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Direct Selling is cool, though there are some direct selling businesses that are not worth patronizing, especially direct selling products like clothes, shoes, etc. When a seller show you the flyers of their products, it's usually different on actual. I don't know with others but I experienced it myself and those flyers are really enticing. happy.gif

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QUOTE(WisdomTrumps @ Dec 3 2013, 10:00 AM)
Thanks Donphatz for sharing.

I agree that everything should be in B&W!

To your point about doing biz with friends and relative, I feel it really depends on your understanding and relationship with that person. There are plenty of people who advice against this but there are also plenty that succeeded by working with family or friends.

Regardless who you are partnering up with, i think it's important that the both of you are comfortable enough to share everything and be straight with one another. Cause in the end, a weak partnership could break your business.

Good luck to you and hope your biz well.
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My partner are the kind of person that would not take any advise from anyone including me. Already talk to him about agreement but he refused and dont want to sign. Problem arise since our sales has been better and better. He said it is his idea and he should get more on the profit. He is the kind of person who say "A" today, then say "B" tomorrow and next week would say "C". Pening ooo. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 3 2013, 04:35 PM)
My partner are the kind of person that would not take any advise from anyone including me. Already talk to him about agreement but he refused and dont want to sign. Problem arise since our sales has been better and better. He said it is his idea and he should get more on the profit. He is the kind of person who say "A" today, then say "B" tomorrow and next week would say "C". Pening ooo.  rclxub.gif
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Partnership is some times necessary. The common reasons are insufficient funds, knowledge, experience, network etc etc. Basically you need a partner to cover up the gaps in your business plan.

So that's why the most important 1st step is to put every clearly in B&W, touch all the woods you want while writing & signing the B&W, it'll save you during time of crisis. Next step is you probably wanna make it a Sdn Bhd, just for the limited liability & higher compliance. This is to ensure that your partner don't accidentally put you or the business in some mess that you don't know head & tail. Ensure all the cheques requires at least 2 signatures before it can be processed.

Lastly if it's possible, buy out your partner's share whenever you're ready to be on your own.


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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Dec 3 2013, 04:53 PM)
Partnership is some times necessary. The common reasons are insufficient funds, knowledge, experience, network etc etc. Basically you need a partner to cover up the gaps in your business plan.

So that's why the most important 1st step is to put every clearly in B&W, touch all the woods you want while writing & signing the B&W, it'll save you during time of crisis. Next step is you probably wanna make it a Sdn Bhd, just for the limited liability & higher compliance. This is to ensure that your partner don't accidentally put you or the business in some mess that you don't know head & tail. Ensure all the cheques requires at least 2 signatures before it can be processed.

Lastly if it's possible, buy out your partner's share whenever you're ready to be on your own.
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Agree. But as im new in biz and my partner are 3-4years experience in biz he tend to push me around. For few months i can tolerate but as time past, i was not able to be patience. Im willing to let go the biz and wanted to sell my shares. Best part is my partner think that when i sell my share he should get 50% of the money i got. Although got no B&W saying that, he still thinks this is a norm in biz.
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 3 2013, 05:16 PM)
Agree. But as im new in biz and my partner are 3-4years experience in biz he tend to push me around. For few months i can tolerate but as time past, i was not able to be patience. Im willing to let go the biz and wanted to sell my shares. Best part is my partner think that when i sell my share he should get 50% of the money i got. Although got no B&W saying that, he still thinks this is a norm in biz.
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You should tell him rubbish. you sell the shares which belong to you why must he share the money with you? also you should let him know, Ideas is cheap without execution. Executor/contributor deserve more than a words or ideas.
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QUOTE(MarkDJ @ Dec 3 2013, 04:23 PM)
Direct Selling is cool, though there are some direct selling businesses that are not worth patronizing, especially direct selling products like clothes, shoes, etc. When a seller show you the flyers of their products, it's usually different on actual. I don't know with others but I experienced it myself and those flyers are really enticing.  happy.gif
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When you say Direct Selling, did you mean selling of tangible goods?? or those MLM?

But yea haha flyers are suppose to attract people's attention and to create awareness. I can't say I never fell for it but the curiosity got the best of me sometime haha.

QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 3 2013, 04:35 PM)
My partner are the kind of person that would not take any advise from anyone including me. Already talk to him about agreement but he refused and dont want to sign. Problem arise since our sales has been better and better. He said it is his idea and he should get more on the profit. He is the kind of person who say "A" today, then say "B" tomorrow and next week would say "C". Pening ooo.  rclxub.gif
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Your experience will be a very good lesson to us potential new business owner.

Yea it sounds like someone who is really difficult to deal with. Egoistic and Arrogant personality. I don't know whats the relationship between you and your partner but things seem to be escalating.

Btw when he said he should get more on the profit, does he also mean he willing to bear more of the expenses? Did you both put in an equal share into the business?

QUOTE(NightHeart @ Dec 3 2013, 04:53 PM)
Partnership is some times necessary. The common reasons are insufficient funds, knowledge, experience, network etc etc. Basically you need a partner to cover up the gaps in your business plan.

So that's why the most important 1st step is to put every clearly in B&W, touch all the woods you want while writing & signing the B&W, it'll save you during time of crisis. Next step is you probably wanna make it a Sdn Bhd, just for the limited liability & higher compliance. This is to ensure that your partner don't accidentally put you or the business in some mess that you don't know head & tail. Ensure all the cheques requires at least 2 signatures before it can be processed.

Lastly if it's possible, buy out your partner's share whenever you're ready to be on your own.
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I agree. We hear way too many people having issue with their partners, and it always started out from innocent partnership where "trust" is the only contract between the them. Trust is required but it is not enough.

QUOTE(Donphatz @ Dec 3 2013, 05:16 PM)
Agree. But as im new in biz and my partner are 3-4years experience in biz he tend to push me around. For few months i can tolerate but as time past, i was not able to be patience. Im willing to let go the biz and wanted to sell my shares. Best part is my partner think that when i sell my share he should get 50% of the money i got. Although got no B&W saying that, he still thinks this is a norm in biz.
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My advise, consult a lawyer first.
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Hey brick and mortar biz owners... am planning to set up a website to show company services and profile... so far how useful has it been to you?

Doubled your sales?
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Hey brick and mortar biz owners... am planning to set up a website to show company services and profile... so far how useful has it been to you?

Doubled your sales?
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depends on how well navigation your website is.

if it's simple efficient and visitors can find what they want in less than 3 clicks, then good.

max 5 clicks. if more than 5 clicks, then people won't bother to click further since your business is about services.

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Dec 5 2013, 11:33 AM)
depends on how well navigation your website is.

if it's simple efficient and visitors can find what they want in less than 3 clicks, then good.

max 5 clicks. if more than 5 clicks, then people won't bother to click further since your business is about services.
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So for your biz after u put up website, how much increase in business?

Thx.
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So for your biz after u put up website, how much increase in business?

Thx.
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errr

increase in sales?

increase in visitors?

increase in branding?

hmm.gif i'm sorry but different website has different personality. thus, different statistics.

but website DO give you the brand exposure thou. if you don't design the website cheapskate la.
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Hi all,

I am planning to open a Sports Shop in a shopping mall.

Any advice on this business?

Thinking for a 1000sq ft area to sell merchandize such as Adidas, Nike, Puma etc. sport products.

Worth to do ?

Any supplier can introduce?

Thanks.

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QUOTE(victorwan @ Dec 5 2013, 12:17 PM)
Hi all,

I am planning to open a Sports Shop in a shopping mall.

Any advice on this business?

Thinking for a 1000sq ft area to sell merchandize such as Adidas, Nike, Puma etc. sport products.

Worth to do ?

Any supplier can introduce?

Thanks.
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Worthy to do it or not it depends on your local market demand.
Does your town people active in sports? How many pontetial consumer in your market who need sports equipment? How many competitor in your town? If yes does the demand high enough to fit the supply? There are several question you have to answer it and conduct a market survey before you spend your money on it.

Supplier side...hmmm... there are seveal distributor in Malaysia for the sport equipment and some home-grown brand. You have to spend some times to do your homework, most of them you may find their contact number or email online.
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So for your biz after u put up website, how much increase in business?

Thx.
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If you are offline business, a website act more like a branding & marketing stuff.

At least before people deal with you they can actually find out who are you & what you do. You gain trust from automated marketing and sales will come from you. If you intend to gauge the conversion through website, do a after sales survey from your consumer where do they find you. That is one of the metric for you to find out.
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QUOTE(victorwan @ Dec 5 2013, 12:17 PM)
Hi all,

I am planning to open a Sports Shop in a shopping mall.

Any advice on this business?

Thinking for a 1000sq ft area to sell merchandize such as Adidas, Nike, Puma etc. sport products.

Worth to do ?

Any supplier can introduce?

Thanks.
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Hi Victorwan,

Is there any existing sport shop in the shopping mall?
What differentiate you from your competitors?
Is it your passion to sell sport merchandise?
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update from my side
haven't contributing to this thread for quite long time already sweat.gif

Type of SME: Polycarbonate Roofing and Grille

Capital: RM5k
a. Welding set (MIG) - RM2,300
b. Air compressor - RM1,200
c. Raw material - RM2,000+-

Partner : 1

Location : Malacca.

Monthly Income : Depends on project, gross profit for each project is 80% of raw material cost.

Workers : me and my partner

Duration : less than 1 year. considerably fail due to partner lack of discipline. work based on his mood and delay project up to 3 months. total loss is RM7k because need to refund customer deposit.

Opinion : very easy to manage if you have full time worker with welding and fitting capability. low initial cost with huge profit up to 150% depends on the project. but this kind of work need to spent lot of time for work preparation and part time worker might not suitable to chase customer deadline

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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Dec 5 2013, 01:25 PM)
Worthy to do it or not it depends on your local market demand.
Does your town people active in sports? How many pontetial consumer in your market who need sports equipment? How many competitor in your town? If yes does the demand high enough to fit the supply? There are several question you have to answer it and conduct a market survey before you spend your money on it.

Supplier side...hmmm... there are seveal distributor in Malaysia for the sport equipment and some home-grown brand. You have to spend some times to do your homework, most of them you may find their contact number or email online.
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Thanks for your reply.

The shopping mall is in Cheras area near middle income residential areas.

And currently, there is no other similar shop. Only 1 shop but they are selling sports shoes only.

Mostly selling those sports equipment involved Malaysian sports such as Badminton, Football, Hockey, Squash, Sepak Takraw etc.

Not sure the demand high or not but still doing research now.

Found a lot of supplier or distributor in the Internet but wanted to get some good and trustable one from here.

Thanks for your feedback.

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Hi Victorwan,

Is there any existing sport shop in the shopping mall?
What differentiate you from your competitors?
Is it your passion to sell sport merchandise?
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No other existing sport shop but only 1 that only sell sport shoes.

Yes, Sports is like one of my passion.

Thanks.


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QUOTE(victorwan @ Dec 5 2013, 04:19 PM)
Thanks for your reply.

The shopping mall is in Cheras area near middle income residential areas.

And currently, there is no other similar shop. Only 1 shop but they are selling sports shoes only.

Mostly selling those sports equipment involved Malaysian sports such as Badminton, Football, Hockey, Squash, Sepak Takraw etc.

Not sure the demand high or not but still doing research now.

Found a lot of supplier or distributor in the Internet but wanted to get some good and trustable one from here.

Thanks for your feedback.
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Ya is good to do a simple survey to check whether fit your demand or not. Student are one of your potential customer to look for. They are more willing to invest a good quality sets of equipment for the sports.

Good luck for your venture bro ! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Dec 5 2013, 11:40 AM)
errr

increase in sales?

increase in visitors?

increase in branding?

hmm.gif  i'm sorry but different website has different personality. thus, different statistics.

but website DO give you the brand exposure thou. if you don't design the website cheapskate la.
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Dude, I asked how is YOUR company doing. *sry if sound harsh, but I am looking for real biz owner's experience* Do you have a (or many) brick-n-mortar biz? Or are you a young 23-24 year old?


QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Dec 5 2013, 01:28 PM)
If you are offline business, a website act more like a branding & marketing stuff.

At least before people deal with you they can actually find out who are you & what you do. You gain trust from automated marketing and sales will come from you. If you intend to gauge the conversion through website, do a after sales survey from your consumer where do they find you. That is one of the metric for you to find out.
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Hi Lawrence, Yeah- I want to get the company out there. Nowadays I ask friend to recommend, they straight ask for website. If you don't mind, can you PM to me your company website? Thx
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Dude, I asked how is YOUR company doing. *sry if sound harsh, but I am looking for real biz owner's experience* Do you have a (or many) brick-n-mortar biz? Or are you a young 23-24 year old?
Hi Lawrence, Yeah- I want to get the company out there. Nowadays I ask friend to recommend, they straight ask for website. If you don't mind, can you PM to me your company website? Thx
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if you already say like that... good luck then! biggrin.gif
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Hi Lawrence, Yeah- I want to get the company out there. Nowadays I ask friend to recommend, they straight ask for website. If you don't mind, can you PM to me your company website? Thx
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What did you ask them to recommend you?

I had replied you in PM however if you are expect build a website and double your sales i will say it is too optimism.
Brand are accumulate are scalable, as the time growth and proper management it will illustrate greater benefit from marginal utility, eventually it will benefit to your business.

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Hi all,

I am actually starting up an Idea and are looking for people to work with around Perak area. Would like to meet aspiring entrepreneurs who are interested!

Project wise, its a social entrepreneurship project and its already in the development stage. smile.gif
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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Dec 6 2013, 10:57 AM)
What did you ask them to recommend you?

I had replied you in PM however if you are expect build a website and double your sales i will say it is too optimism.
Brand are accumulate are scalable, as the time growth and proper management it will illustrate greater benefit from marginal utility, eventually it will benefit to your business.
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spot on. biggrin.gif

website is indeed a tool to promote your product/services but entirely it depends on the website management/content. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Dec 6 2013, 10:57 AM)
What did you ask them to recommend you?

I had replied you in PM however if you are expect build a website and double your sales i will say it is too optimism.
Brand are accumulate are scalable, as the time growth and proper management it will illustrate greater benefit from marginal utility, eventually it will benefit to your business.
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Thanks for the PM. Already replied you there. rclxms.gif
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Hi bros,

I am usually into technology/web based businesses but I now need to consider brick and mortar as I have a shoplot with a vacant floor (2nd floor). The 1st floor and ground floor are currently rented out.

The location of this shoplot is near town, can you suggest me how I can make money out of this 2nd floor?

Thanks ya!
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QUOTE(jason83 @ Dec 8 2013, 03:22 AM)
Hi bros,

I am usually into technology/web based businesses but I now need to consider brick and mortar as I have a shoplot with a vacant floor (2nd floor). The 1st floor and ground floor are currently rented out.

The location of this shoplot is near town, can you suggest me how I can make money out of this 2nd floor?

Thanks ya!
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common issue. i am facing same problem too.
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want to ask opinion /k

i got 10k now and want do some small bisnes.. im staying at setapak..
what bisnes can i approach?

ayam think want open buger bakar at damansara damai.. or car wash around KL area.

need to register ssm? need lesen with dbkl?
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hi all sifus,

to start a business, we need business plan of course but how to survey the market? do i need to hire survey company and watsoever?

is there anyway else?

how to know their cost, selling price, profit and etc
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Dear All,

Some of our efforts are bearing fruit thanks to the replies from this thread and the PMs that result. Its for my wife's B2B clerical services company.

I have another question- now that we are starting to secure international clients- they wanna pay us in USD. We have to invoice them from time to time. I am thinking of charging them a flat rate USD (just in case Jib kor devalues MYR further).

Our current biz account is in MYR with Maybank blush.gif

-How do you guys handle it?
-Issit as simple as them banking into our Acc and letting the bank convert to us at a day rate?
-Any special forex rate we can nego?

Experience and tips welcomed biz uncle and aunty!

Thank you!

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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Dec 16 2013, 05:00 PM)
Dear All,

Some of our efforts are bearing fruit thanks to the replies from this thread and the PMs that result. Its for my wife's B2B clerical services company.

I have another question- now that we are starting to secure international clients- they wanna pay us in USD. We have to invoice them from time to time. I am thinking of charging them a flat rate USD (just in case Jib kor devalues MYR further).

Our current biz account is in MYR with Maybank  blush.gif

-How do you guys handle it?
-Issit as simple as them banking into our Acc and letting the bank convert to us at a day rate?
-Any special forex rate we can nego?

Experience and tips welcomed biz uncle and aunty!

Thank you!
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Hi I am not a financial person but let me share my understanding about currency exchange rate and the impact to both seller and customer.

Be careful when you want to consider charging flat rate because this has impact to both of you and your customer.

*Things you would want to set is fixed selling price for yourself in MYR to maintain your profit %.

Example: (calculation below does not include transaction fees which you must include to ensure you earn exactly what you plan for)

Assuming you sell a product at selling price of MYR 1000, and you aim to make profit RM 100 (10% profit) and your cost is MYR 900.

Using profit calculating formula:

[(Selling Price - Cost)/ Selling Price] x 100% = Profit Percentage

Scenario 1: Considering when 1$ = MYR 3.2,

You are charging your customer $312.50 (which is = MYR 1000) which mean you meet your profit % by receiving MYR1000.

Scenario 2:Considering 1$ - MYR 3.5, (MYR is now weaker, you get more MYR when your customer pays you the same $ amount:

If you charge them a flat rate $312.50, this is now MYR 1093.75, you get extra profit of MYR 93.75, this gets you total of MYR 193.75 profit (19.4% profit, considering your target selling price MYR 1000)

Scenario 3:Considering 1$ - MYR 2.8, (MYR is now stronger, you get less MYR when your customer pays you the same $ amount:

If you charge them a flat rate $312.50, you would receive MYR 875.00, you make a loss in this transaction (2.5% loss, considering your target selling price MYR 1000)

My suggestion to you is, fixed your selling price in MYR, then convert it to $ in your invoice to your customer, your customer may be paying higher or lower price in their currency $, but neither of these impact you because you would still receive MYR 1000 at the end of transaction and maintain a 10% profit.

So yes you should charge according to daily rate.

Hope this helps.

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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Dec 16 2013, 05:00 PM)
Dear All,

Some of our efforts are bearing fruit thanks to the replies from this thread and the PMs that result. Its for my wife's B2B clerical services company.

I have another question- now that we are starting to secure international clients- they wanna pay us in USD. We have to invoice them from time to time. I am thinking of charging them a flat rate USD (just in case Jib kor devalues MYR further).

Our current biz account is in MYR with Maybank  blush.gif

-How do you guys handle it?
-Issit as simple as them banking into our Acc and letting the bank convert to us at a day rate?
-Any special forex rate we can nego?

Experience and tips welcomed biz uncle and aunty!

Thank you!
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Hi kaiserwulf,

Yes its that simple like normal Maybank transaction, just to provide your customer the SWIFT CODE or IBAN NUMBER but for better rate, find a money exchange guy (must be trusted and a company), customer will pay to him in US bank then he'll transfer to you in Msia bank
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Ic... yeah, was thinking it should be simple as that.
Will call up Maybank tomorrow.

Did you managed to nego on the forex spread?

Can PM me if you don't want to disclose too much.

Thx.

QUOTE(williamlee_1985 @ Dec 16 2013, 06:01 PM)
Hi kaiserwulf,

Yes its that simple like normal Maybank transaction, just to provide your customer the SWIFT CODE or IBAN NUMBER but for better rate, find a money exchange guy (must be trusted and a company), customer will pay to him in US bank then he'll transfer to you in Msia bank
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Thanks. Yes, the premise of your advise is to charge in the currency you have to most confidence in. I was thinking along the same lines as you.

Unfortunately, I am not as patriotic. Thus, long term feel like Jib Kor(MYR) will f*** you up more than Obama(USD) will mess up.

You did trigger a thought in me though- I think in the contract *since we are long term B2B* we need to put provision for price review if forex changes too much.

QUOTE(SunofaBeach @ Dec 16 2013, 05:58 PM)
Hi I am not a financial person but let me share my understanding about currency exchange rate and the impact to both seller and customer.

Be careful when you want to consider charging flat rate because this has impact to both of you and your customer.

*Things you would want to set is fixed selling price for yourself in MYR to maintain your profit %.

Example: (calculation below does not include transaction fees which you must include to ensure you earn exactly what you plan for)

Assuming you sell a product at selling price of MYR 1000, and you aim to make profit RM 100 (10% profit) and your cost is MYR 900.

Using profit calculating formula:

[(Selling Price - Cost)/ Selling Price] x 100% = Profit Percentage

Scenario 1: Considering when 1$ = MYR 3.2,

You are charging your customer $312.50 (which is = MYR 1000) which mean you meet your profit % by receiving MYR1000.

Scenario 2:Considering 1$ - MYR 3.5, (MYR is now weaker, you get more MYR when your customer pays you the same $ amount:

If you charge them a flat rate $312.50, this is now MYR 1093.75, you get extra profit of MYR 93.75, this gets you total of MYR 193.75 profit (19.4% profit, considering your target selling price MYR 1000)

Scenario 3:Considering 1$ - MYR 2.8, (MYR is now stronger, you get less MYR when your customer pays you the same $ amount:

If you charge them a flat rate $312.50, you would receive MYR 875.00, you make a loss in this transaction (2.5% loss, considering your target selling price MYR 1000)

My suggestion to you is, fixed your selling price in MYR, then convert it to $ in your invoice to your customer, your customer may be paying higher or lower price in their currency $, but neither of these impact you because you would still receive MYR 1000 at the end of transaction and maintain a 10% profit.

So yes you should charge according to daily rate.

Hope this helps.

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Hey folks,

I'm an expatriate here in Malaysia and for the past four years that I've been here I always wanted to start a business with the same quality/style that you can find in my home country and set it up in a booming environment with an upscale atmosphere. I've finally finished a business plan and found a perfect location, now the few things that remains are funding.

What is the best way to go about grants up in the 30-60k area, does anyone have experience with this? My business partner is Malay if that makes any difference (probably does shakehead.gif ). So far about half the funding needed has been secured and we are currently looking for a final investment.

This thread has been extremely informative, thank you everyone! Will definitely update on how the progress is going.
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QUOTE(WeidiSWEDEN @ Dec 17 2013, 07:44 PM)
Hey folks,

I'm an expatriate here in Malaysia and for the past four years that I've been here I always wanted to start a business with the same quality/style that you can find in my home country and set it up in a booming environment with an upscale atmosphere. I've finally finished a business plan and found a perfect location, now the few things that remains are funding.

What is the best way to go about grants up in the 30-60k area, does anyone have experience with this? My business partner is Malay if that makes any difference (probably does shakehead.gif ). So far about half the funding needed has been secured and we are currently looking for a final investment.

This thread has been extremely informative, thank you everyone!  Will definitely update on how the progress is going.
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Malaysia startup ecosystem isn't that active compare to developed countries, however with the 2014 budget announcing and our prime minister had launched few grant for bumiputera to advocate more of them to involve in business.

So you are seeking angel investor in traditional business it might be very difficult unless you got the connection & had run, tested your market-product fit also with business model. Looking for government grant as startup capital is the better choice but it might much more below your expectation.
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Hi guys,

Rite now I have business plan ready to be show to my potential investor, may I know how do you approach for fund? aside from own family.

My partner (friend) and I decided to venture into automotive industry, car workshop doing motor oil and car wash servicings. The market size (motor oil) of the city (because my employer is the sole distributor in East Malaysia) I targeting is over 3 millions (reseller price) worth of products sold this year.

I have competitive advantage in terms of supplier side, I get all first-hand knowledge and the location site is really strategic located. Since it is a partnership business, I expect everything to be in written agreement.

The only concern is investor. how do you guys reach out to them?

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The question you're asking is how to approach potential investor for funds. A few things to keep in mind.

1) What's the role of the new investor in your business ?
2) Business plan - 3years & above
3) Marketing research
4) Amount you're looking at

Where to look for investors (depending on amount from huge to low)

1) Banks
2) Angel Investment companies
3) Companies that have similar business
4) High nett worth individuals (friends ??)
5) Family
6) Other trustable friends

I might miss out some. But this would be the list I would look for investors usually.
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Hi,
Firstly I am a total noob about doing business.
Me and my cousins decide to open a hobby shop.
We have identified possible supplier for our items and currently searching for suitable shop lot to rent.
My question is regarding about register the business license.
Where should I go to register my business license? SSM or Majlis Perbandaran?
And when should I register? Before open the shop or after open the shop?
Thanks.
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QUOTE(coklatua @ Dec 26 2013, 11:45 AM)
Hi,
Firstly I am a total noob about doing business.
Me and my cousins decide to open a hobby shop.
We have identified possible supplier for our items and currently searching for suitable shop lot to rent.
My question is regarding about register the business license.
Where should I go to register my business license? SSM or Majlis Perbandaran?
And when should I register? Before open the shop or after open the shop?
Thanks.
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before you start a hobby shop do you have experience first? otherwise my suggestion is to stop and try online first. i started out with a physical shop not knowing the pricing, right sourcing of goods ...etc. start small start online first. know the map before u start. read the sample first on modern entreprenuers. The third edition is out .. look at onlinebusinessworkz.blogspot.com.

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QUOTE(coklatua @ Dec 26 2013, 11:45 AM)
Hi,
Firstly I am a total noob about doing business.
Me and my cousins decide to open a hobby shop.
We have identified possible supplier for our items and currently searching for suitable shop lot to rent.
My question is regarding about register the business license.
Where should I go to register my business license? SSM or Majlis Perbandaran?
And when should I register? Before open the shop or after open the shop?
Thanks.
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Register your company at SSM. You should register before you operate it. Don't you need business entity to purchase from your supplier? smile.gif
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If I were to invest into a franchise business, total cost ard RM80K-100K.
Do I need to get involve with other partners ?

Since I have no business experience, and many of my frens also do not have such skill, do I need to get outsider who has such experience or I just do on myself as many thing can still refer back to the franchise holder ?

Finding a partner is not easily as nowadays, what people lack of, is the word 'trust' especially when mentioned money.

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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Dec 28 2013, 07:44 AM)
If I were to invest into a franchise business, total cost ard RM80K-100K.
Do I need to get involve with other partners ?

Since I have no business experience, and many of my frens also do not have such skill, do I need to get outsider who has such experience or I just do on myself as many thing can still refer back to the franchise holder ?

Finding a partner is not easily as nowadays, what people lack of, is the word 'trust' especially when mentioned money.
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From my understanding after meeting up with a few franchise business managers, they are there to provide help to starters.

Take example, I went to discuss Old Town White Coffee franchise to bring in to my hometown. The Manager briefly explains the cost and what not. Apart from that, they will try to understand if you ever run your own business, if you ever run a franchise business as both business have a small difference. Of course this depends on how they deal with you. Most franchising company does not want their partners to fail as their partner fails = less income and bad reputation towards them.

If you're wondering what do i mean by difference between own business as well as franchise business (just one small portion of it);

Own business = When you say A means A, you're in full control.

Franchise business = You gotta follow their exact rules in running the business. If they think B is better than A, you got to follow them.
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QUOTE(seanlee31 @ Dec 11 2013, 11:51 AM)
common issue. i am facing same problem too.
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Hi,

My office is on the 1st floor.... the whole is empty... any idea on what business to do???

I have moved my previous operation to a new and better location hence leaving the old 1st floor office empty....

any idea anyone???


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QUOTE(irene_star982 @ Dec 29 2013, 10:47 PM)
Hi,

My office is on the 1st floor.... the whole is empty... any idea on what business to do???

I have moved my previous operation to a new and better location hence leaving the old 1st floor office empty....

any idea anyone???
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Depends on location and time involvement.

Easiest, rent out. If suitable, then do virtual office.

If want to run your own business, options are endless. 1st floor can do tuition centre, legal firm, boutique, again depends on what your expertise is.
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Hi everyone, how do you usually link up with the distributors? Expo, word of mouth, yellow pages, online? I'm still in the midst of fine tuning my plan and searching for more suppliers contact. Appreciate your feedback smile.gif
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Hello, wanted to ask the sifu sifu. I wanted to open a business in F&B and wondering whether it is better to open as a sole proprietor or Sdn Bhd. I know each of them have pros & cons. It's a small drinks stall, selling healthy drinks, planning to open in working areas or colleges. It's going to be my own business & probably only involve my parent as partners.

Sole proprietor - low start up cost
Sdn Bhd - limited liability

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Registered business/sole prop/partnership - cheap cost, if family i think no issue with liability, just dont screw with your suppliers.

I've had many clients with Sdn Bhd who shut it down because it's unnecessary expenditure and statutory compliance means much more effort too.
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Hi, let me introduce my business . I have put some investment into this small business of mine importing some ear plugs and sleeping mask. It's a quality product with a niche market. It's challenging though because im new and many of us don't really seek for this product bcos of lack of awareness. Anyway, I intend to venture out from online business a bit like approaching new distributor such as pharmacy and even pet shop.

My question is that normally how does one approach this shop/retailers to buy from you with cash? How do you all normally negotiate in crediting and cash business. Do you allows consignment orders which will be paid according to sales ?

hope i can get my business expand bcos currently online business is pretty slow and i have design the very simple ads and information layout at its finest to capture interested buyers but it's not really successful even though it had gone up for 3 weeks in Garage Sales. thanks.

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QUOTE(missysleepy @ Apr 1 2014, 01:48 PM)
Hi, let me introduce my business . I have put some investment into this small business of mine importing some ear plugs and sleeping mask. It's a quality product with a niche market. It's challenging though because im new and many of us don't really seek for this product bcos of lack of awareness. Anyway, I intend to venture out from online business a bit like approaching new distributor such as pharmacy and even pet shop.

My question is that normally how does one approach this shop/retailers to buy from you with cash? How do you all normally negotiate in crediting and cash business. Do you allows consignment orders which will be paid according to sales ?

hope i can get my business expand bcos currently online business is pretty slow and i have design the very simple ads and information layout at its finest to capture interested buyers but it's not really successful even though it had gone up for 3 weeks in Garage Sales. thanks.
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What makes you different from the competitors?  blink.gif
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The difference is the competitors were packed in minimum qty and sold in pharmacy. In fact, there's not really a good ear plug in the market right now. But i hope to penetrate the market through some retailers and words of mouth first.
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Hope this is the right thread to put this:

I have a big bulk (>9000 pcs) of kids clothing to dispose, cos closing down my online biz. My funds are stuck and trying to find ways to sell it off - drawing blanks most of the time. Am willing to sell off cheap, below my cost!
Where can I sell off in bulk?
Any pointers / ideas to share on this?
Anyone can help.....

Thx in advance.

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QUOTE(ll-uniq @ Apr 7 2014, 04:13 PM)
Hope this is the right thread to put this:

I have a big bulk (>9000 pcs) of kids clothing to dispose, cos closing down my online biz.  My funds are stuck and trying to find ways to sell it off - drawing blanks most of the time.  Am willing to sell off cheap, below my cost!
Where can I sell off in bulk?
Any pointers / ideas to share on this?
Anyone can help.....

Thx in advance.
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pasar malam is ur best option
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hi....

Just need some opinion here.....

I recentlynotice that there is some space inside a petrol station kiosk which is empty....

anyone got any idea on what to do with the space?

the petrol station currently have a car wash business..... so what other business is suitable to park inside a petrol station kiosk besides car wash.....

the petrol station is located inside a housing area.....

give me some suggestion and whoever wish to partner with me on this business may do so...

tq
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QUOTE(ll-uniq @ Apr 7 2014, 04:13 PM)
Hope this is the right thread to put this:

I have a big bulk (>9000 pcs) of kids clothing to dispose, cos closing down my online biz.  My funds are stuck and trying to find ways to sell it off - drawing blanks most of the time.  Am willing to sell off cheap, below my cost!
Where can I sell off in bulk?
Any pointers / ideas to share on this?
Anyone can help.....

Thx in advance.
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pasar malam.. or try go to shops where they sell kids clothing, ask them let you put there as consignment lu
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pasar malam.. or try go to shops where they sell kids clothing, ask them let you put there as consignment lu
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pasar malam - no connection, consignment - slow and too many pieces to organise. sad.gif
prefer to sell off all one shot.

know any websites or companies that can sapu all stock?
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QUOTE(ll-uniq @ Apr 8 2014, 01:50 PM)
pasar malam - no connection, consignment - slow and too many pieces to organise.  sad.gif
prefer to sell off all one shot.

know any websites or companies that can sapu all stock?
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Maybe u try ask at the shop that selling kids product . They might buy it from u if the price is much lower than their current supplier price
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Planning to get 10-20k personal loan for expanding business. Don't know is it worth it. Any advises ?
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QUOTE(ll-uniq @ Apr 8 2014, 02:50 PM)
pasar malam - no connection, consignment - slow and too many pieces to organise.  sad.gif
prefer to sell off all one shot.

know any websites or companies that can sapu all stock?
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find a distributor to eat the stocks, and quality good, and super low price( depending how urgent you want to clear )
if you can hold , then can find the right buyer.

alibaba.com also a good place
try mudah also smile.gif
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Planning to get 10-20k personal loan for expanding business. Don't know is it worth it. Any advises ?
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since your biz is expanding , you can calculate if you can recover your 10-20k in 1-2 years with more than interest , why not smile.gif

just calculate the time frame and risk need to recover back the money, base on your current sales volume
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QUOTE(kinggekko @ Apr 8 2014, 05:55 PM)
since your biz is expanding , you can calculate if you can recover your 10-20k in 1-2 years with more than interest , why not smile.gif

just calculate the time frame and risk need to recover back the money, base on your current sales volume
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From current sales volume,it's affordable for me. Still hesitating . Hmm. By the way, personal loan easy to apply ? As I never loan anything with bank before
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QUOTE(ll-uniq @ Apr 8 2014, 01:50 PM)
pasar malam - no connection, consignment - slow and too many pieces to organise.  sad.gif
prefer to sell off all one shot.

know any websites or companies that can sapu all stock?
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You can try to approach those wholesalers in GM Klang or Chow Kit or Kenanga Wholesale City.
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From current sales volume,it's affordable for me. Still hesitating . Hmm. By the way, personal loan easy to apply ? As I never loan anything with bank before
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Shuld b easy, everyweek also get personal loan preapproved offer
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Shuld b easy, everyweek also get personal loan preapproved offer
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QUOTE(ll-uniq @ Apr 8 2014, 01:50 PM)
pasar malam - no connection, consignment - slow and too many pieces to organise.  sad.gif
prefer to sell off all one shot.

know any websites or companies that can sapu all stock?
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How about sell to those seller in pasar malam. Of cos pasar pagi as well
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Thank you for all the ideas.
Main problem is I am working full time, so a bit difficult to go round looking for buyers. Best would be to source them out online... but how many pasar malam/pagi sellers go online laugh.gif
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Im looking for distributors interested in my products. Do you guys have the network in this industry such as manufacturer in the loud environment, pharmacy, Bed and Mattress furnitures.
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Looking for an experienced person in the hair styling industry to be a business partner for a hair salon located within a hypermarket in Klang.

Have invested into a business that I don't have sufficient prior experience and unable to grow this business as quickly as expected... As I am also having another FT job elsewhere, I am not available most of the time to manage this business properly. Am only able to breakeven the past couple of months (6 months to be exact).

Am looking for someone with sufficient experience in this industry to grow this business together and am open to discussion on the profit sharing part for those who lack the capital but have high interest in this industry. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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Hi,

Need advice and opinions here.

I am from Ipoh area. Planning to open a Daycare for children age 6 to 15.

1) Capital: Rm10k ; Rm5k each
2) She had 4 years experience with Daycare while I am just investing and helping her with management since it is my forte.
3) In my area, there are no Daycare but 2 kindergarten which offer this service illegally. The number of children is small.
4) It is my first time starting a business and am quite clueless.
5) I'm afraid there will be no parents willing to send their children as it is somewhat Kampung area.

Is there anyone who had started a Daycare Center? Need advice..thank you!
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If you are excited by the business and your passion is in it, i'd think you have no problem. Just do a good job from day one and word of mouth will bring the customers to you.
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I have some questions for people that used to do their business part time, and have transitioned from their day job to do full time business.

1) At what point that you decided to forego your day job? Profit = salary? Potential growth?
2) What is your safety net if your business doesn't work out? The only thing that I can think of is to avoid any commitment either financially or personally. Opinion?

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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Apr 27 2014, 08:10 PM)
I have some questions for people that used to do their business part time, and have transitioned from their day job to do full time business.

1) At what point that you decided to forego your day job? Profit = salary? Potential growth?
2) What is your safety net if your business doesn't work out? The only thing that I can think of is to avoid any commitment either financially or personally. Opinion?
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When you part-time income exceeds your day job i suppose?

THere are many reasons to do your own business, and it might not be solely financial. Factors such as work satisfaction, stress, doing something you are passionate about and interested in, some of these supercedes the financial aspect.

Of course to answer your 2nd question, initially i would say a frugal living. I personally made mistake of spending and having good life when i started business, and that's pretty regretful. Keep the funds for expansion and savings, would be better.

And, assuming you are going into a business which you have passion and interest in, don't give yourself an exit door, that will be the easy way out, just push on forward.

If really really teruk then an exit strategy would be next la.. that would be the easy part i suppose... pray you never get to that point tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Daveliew @ Apr 27 2014, 04:11 PM)
Hi,

Need advice and opinions here.

I am from Ipoh area. Planning to open a Daycare for children age 6 to 15.

1) Capital: Rm10k ; Rm5k each
2) She had 4 years experience with Daycare while I am just investing and helping her with management since it is my forte.
3) In my area, there are no Daycare but 2 kindergarten which offer this service illegally. The number of children is small.
4) It is my first time starting a business and am quite clueless.
5) I'm afraid there will be no parents willing to send their children as it is somewhat Kampung area.

Is there anyone who had started a Daycare Center? Need advice..thank you!
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Not sure if 10k is enough. Maybe its enough in Ipoh?

Have you calculated the cost of renting a place for your daycare and other set up for your daycare?

How about marketing materials and such? Even if you r the best daycare provider if nobody knows about it then you wont have business
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QUOTE(Daveliew @ Apr 27 2014, 04:11 PM)
Hi,

Need advice and opinions here.

I am from Ipoh area. Planning to open a Daycare for children age 6 to 15.

1) Capital: Rm10k ; Rm5k each
2) She had 4 years experience with Daycare while I am just investing and helping her with management since it is my forte.
3) In my area, there are no Daycare but 2 kindergarten which offer this service illegally. The number of children is small.
4) It is my first time starting a business and am quite clueless.
5) I'm afraid there will be no parents willing to send their children as it is somewhat Kampung area.

Is there anyone who had started a Daycare Center? Need advice..thank you!
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QUOTE(Daveliew @ Apr 27 2014, 04:11 PM)
Hi,

Need advice and opinions here.

I am from Ipoh area. Planning to open a Daycare for children age 6 to 15.

1) Capital: Rm10k ; Rm5k each
2) She had 4 years experience with Daycare while I am just investing and helping her with management since it is my forte.
3) In my area, there are no Daycare but 2 kindergarten which offer this service illegally. The number of children is small.
4) It is my first time starting a business and am quite clueless.
5) I'm afraid there will be no parents willing to send their children as it is somewhat Kampung area.

Is there anyone who had started a Daycare Center? Need advice..thank you!
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if you are female/woman, you may try to visit website for women which is under government there might have some grant or incentive for women to operat such business.

daycare centre business is good business
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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Apr 27 2014, 09:10 PM)
I have some questions for people that used to do their business part time, and have transitioned from their day job to do full time business.

1) At what point that you decided to forego your day job? Profit = salary? Potential growth?
2) What is your safety net if your business doesn't work out? The only thing that I can think of is to avoid any commitment either financially or personally. Opinion?
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1) forego your day job, if you think that your income is almost more than your current commitment. we are talking buffer of 6-12 months or more. you need to justify the growth and future of your own venture is exceeding your current day job.

2) safety nets = your commitment for the next 6-12 months or more. your biz may not work out fast. and need time and patiences. you need to know what is your minimum you can survive. if you biz is all on track , why NOT ?
if it is just started and growing , wait until it can give you a steady stream of $$ . steady stream of customer base.


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Edited.

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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Apr 28 2014, 08:19 AM)
Not sure if 10k is enough. Maybe its enough in Ipoh?

Have you calculated the cost of renting a place for your daycare and other set up for your daycare?

How about marketing materials and such? Even if you r the best daycare provider if nobody knows about it then you wont have business
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Yup, Rent per month is Rm700. We had calculated the budget needed for the basic stuff such as furniture and advertisement and it comes to around Rm7k.

We don't really know anyone in the place cry.gif so we just had flyers and banners for advertisement.
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QUOTE(aylwyn paul @ Apr 28 2014, 10:01 AM)
if you are female/woman, you may try to visit website for women which is under government there might have some grant or incentive for women to operat such business.

daycare centre business is good business
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I'm a male but my partner is a female. Maybe we could put her as main business partner? (Not really sure how to phrase this) but still having both name for the business. Is it possible doing it that way?

BTW, do you have a link for more information or maybe website to apply for the incentive? biggrin.gif THANKS!
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Hi guys, example I want to open car wash shop,
First go where register?
After registration,
Then can straight find a shop to rent, get equipments from supplier and find workers can already?

Workers need to register under your company? I mean those foreigners type.

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ May 4 2014, 06:30 PM)
Hi guys, example I want to open car wash shop,
First go where register?
After registration,
Then can straight find a shop to rent, get equipments from supplier and find workers can already?

Workers need to register under your company? I mean those foreigners type.
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go to ssm

foreigner type mean what?

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I'm a male but my partner is a female. Maybe we could put her as main business partner? (Not really sure how to phrase this) but still having both name for the business. Is it possible doing it that way?

BTW, do you have a link for more information or maybe website to apply for the incentive?  biggrin.gif THANKS!
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hi guys im new here.

i am planning to start a game business such as selling games online for a start. will be doing part time for now.

what you guys think about the capital, how many months/years for ROI and how should i begin with?

some of you may think is not viable but my passion is games so that is what i really want to do

thanks for your advice in advance

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i have SME database and also normal database
which can you use as your prospect in making your biz a much faster and more impact in terms of advertising. DO PM me .thksss
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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ May 4 2014, 06:30 PM)
Hi guys, example I want to open car wash shop,
First go where register?
After registration,
Then can straight find a shop to rent, get equipments from supplier and find workers can already?

Workers need to register under your company? I mean those foreigners type.
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go to ssm

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Find reliable agent 2 help you take foreign workers. Then you no need 2 worry so much about going over KDN immigration every day.
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ May 5 2014, 01:00 PM)
Find reliable agent 2 help you take foreign workers. Then you no need 2 worry so much about going over KDN immigration every day.
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ May 5 2014, 09:02 AM)
hi guys im new here.

i am planning to start a game business such as selling games online for a start. will be doing part time for now.

what you guys think about the capital, how many months/years for ROI and how should i begin with?

some of you may think is not viable but my passion is games so that is what i really want to do

thanks for your advice in advance
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u plan to do selling via forum or own website (estore) ?
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QUOTE(KannaSai1 @ May 9 2014, 09:54 AM)
u plan to do selling via forum or own website (estore) ?
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please advice. thanks.
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ May 9 2014, 11:10 AM)
plan to start small first via forums

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if forum, very ez. gain possitive feedback from your customers.
save all the possitive reviews and successful sales track records. this will gain you trust.
try to gain a safetrader tag if u selling via lowyat forum.
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QUOTE(KannaSai1 @ May 9 2014, 11:14 AM)
if forum, very ez. gain possitive feedback from your customers.
save all the possitive reviews and successful sales track records. this will gain you trust.
try to gain a safetrader tag if u selling via lowyat forum.
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thanks for the advice

but wish to know how to get suppliers or distributor and how much capital do i have to fork out
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ May 9 2014, 11:41 AM)
thanks for the advice

but wish to know how to get suppliers or distributor and how much capital do i have to fork out
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ May 5 2014, 09:02 AM)
hi guys im new here.

i am planning to start a game business such as selling games online for a start. will be doing part time for now.

what you guys think about the capital, how many months/years for ROI and how should i begin with?

some of you may think is not viable but my passion is games so that is what i really want to do

thanks for your advice in advance
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just pc games?
or with all game consoles likes ps3 psp etc?
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QUOTE(KannaSai1 @ May 9 2014, 02:04 PM)
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with various platform games

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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ May 9 2014, 10:10 PM)
with various platform games
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well , I guessed from all your post , you want to increase passive/alternate income online. first you must validate and confirm your passion about the service/product you are going to provide

Seems like you are going for games. and if you have extensive knowledge/passion in it , why not ?

First you need to start researching , where can get your supplier. everybody must established and invest to find out if a good supplier is good , reasonably low price and good support for dealer. - you have to buy yourself and start as a user mostly. You only resell a service if you familiar with your product and you have been an active user.

Capital, start low. Never "hantam" your capital or huge sum in online business as it is suppose to start economical and buy on depend when you have sales. if you need to stock, make sure you have multi channel to clear your stock , not only depending online. Some online biz will not give result immediately.

after you have supplies , product and set your pricing (reasonal margin/ or at least break even) plan a promotion to acquire new customer. You basically start with 0 customer base, you want to offer or sometimes sell at lost to attract new buy. with few transaction done only you can get good review by inviting them to feedback on your services.

get new marketing sources, forum ,mudah, lelong , cari , google adwords. I tried it all and recently adwords bring ROI >5times . start with cheap / free advertising , and graduately invest. the process may take 6-18 months before business get on track.

I guessed this is just my 2 cent and there are more experience online seller here to share some thought
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QUOTE(kinggekko @ May 14 2014, 10:32 AM)
well , I guessed from all your post , you want to increase passive/alternate income online. first you must validate and confirm your passion about the service/product you are going to provide

Seems like you are going for games. and if you have extensive knowledge/passion in it , why not ? 

First you need to start researching , where can get your supplier. everybody must established and invest to find out if a good supplier is good , reasonably low price and good support for dealer. - you have to buy yourself and start as a user mostly. You only resell a service if you familiar with your product and you have been an active user.

Capital, start low. Never "hantam" your capital or huge sum in online business as it is suppose to start economical and buy on depend when you have sales. if you need to stock, make sure you have multi channel to clear your stock , not only depending online. Some online biz will not give result immediately.

after you have supplies , product and set your pricing (reasonal margin/ or at least break even) plan a promotion to acquire new customer. You basically start with 0 customer base, you want to offer or sometimes sell at lost to attract  new buy. with few transaction done only you can get good review by inviting them to feedback on your services. 

get new marketing sources, forum ,mudah, lelong , cari , google adwords. I tried it all and recently adwords bring ROI >5times .  start with cheap / free advertising , and graduately invest. the process may take 6-18 months before business get on track.

I guessed this is just my 2 cent and there are more experience online seller here to share some thought
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Good advice for new starters nod.gif
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QUOTE(kinggekko @ May 14 2014, 10:32 AM)
well , I guessed from all your post , you want to increase passive/alternate income online. first you must validate and confirm your passion about the service/product you are going to provide

Seems like you are going for games. and if you have extensive knowledge/passion in it , why not ? 

First you need to start researching , where can get your supplier. everybody must established and invest to find out if a good supplier is good , reasonably low price and good support for dealer. - you have to buy yourself and start as a user mostly. You only resell a service if you familiar with your product and you have been an active user.

Capital, start low. Never "hantam" your capital or huge sum in online business as it is suppose to start economical and buy on depend when you have sales. if you need to stock, make sure you have multi channel to clear your stock , not only depending online. Some online biz will not give result immediately.

after you have supplies , product and set your pricing (reasonal margin/ or at least break even) plan a promotion to acquire new customer. You basically start with 0 customer base, you want to offer or sometimes sell at lost to attract  new buy. with few transaction done only you can get good review by inviting them to feedback on your services. 

get new marketing sources, forum ,mudah, lelong , cari , google adwords. I tried it all and recently adwords bring ROI >5times .  start with cheap / free advertising , and graduately invest. the process may take 6-18 months before business get on track.

I guessed this is just my 2 cent and there are more experience online seller here to share some thought
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Thank you so much for your advice. Just need to know where can I get all these suppliers. Is approaching those retail shops a good option? Or can I start from finding out from another online seller?
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Thank you so much for your advice. Just need to know where can I get all these suppliers. Is approaching those retail shops a good option? Or can I start from finding out from another online seller?
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well , you really need to find out , local retailler / distributors or online. anyone willing to support you with a good pricing. you cost need to be lower that whats offer in the market. because you are new and selling higher price, no reason to buy from you smile.gif

find a business you can get supplies , niche !
remember, your contact worth money too !!

you can start a blog too besides online shop , write good game review , and start sell a bit or make money via affiliate (introduce business to other online gamining site/shopping site) and earn referral commision

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anyone that needs advertising SMS Picture blasting do PM me
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very cool boss. i love burgers. so much so i also thought of doing premium burgers too.
but just a dream as i barely know how to cook a decent meal.
but what is lacking is premium burgers.
and i hate the fact that burger is so burger like.
size is kinda fixed. i look forward to bigger sized portion. something that when you go mcD asking small, regular, large, it applies to the burger too rather than just the fries and drinks.

so far one of the most successful burger outlets seems to be burgerlab.
i have yet to try it though. the queues are just plain ridiculous.
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This 1 need business owner advise-

Say already have a registered office address. Business very good need to set up a site office in another town.

Can rent a house or even a house room as site office? Advise and experience appreciated.

Need to keep docs, table for worker and a formal address.

Thanks y'all!
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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ May 22 2014, 03:12 PM)
This 1 need business owner advise-

Say already have a registered office address. Business very good need to set up a site office in another town.

Can rent a house or even a house room as site office? Advise and experience appreciated.

Need to keep docs, table for worker and a formal address.

Thanks y'all!
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Why not get a servicd office or business addressable service with. Receiption support?
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Why not get a servicd office or business addressable service with. Receiption support?
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ May 27 2014, 04:33 PM)
anybody got contacts that want to buy stocks for lollipop? got a Boss want to clear off his stock, 1 box 150pieces, i think can get Rm10 per box, so less than 10sen per lollipop. got many boxes available..
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have minimum boxes to buy?
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Anybody knows where to buy a display chiller and how much does it cost for a smaller one.
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ May 27 2014, 07:48 PM)
have minimum boxes to buy?
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i think 1 carton, 1 carton got 6 boxes/jars if not mistaken.. but hope can take more la.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Oct 16 2013, 12:46 PM)
Depends bro ~

I currently partnered with another 2 friends . Currently all is doing the business while trying to get workers so that we can do other things .

Worth the time ? When it's boom big sure worth it  tongue.gif

Income wise , the biz is generating around RM3k/month profit , it's operating 5 days a week / from 730pm-12midnight and it's not even very busy  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Yup after work do
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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ May 9 2014, 09:10 PM)
with various platform games
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interested with gaming dropship business ? you dont need to keep stock. will ship the goods to your customer under your details
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anyone can share ur opinion on the impact of gst on small & medium business? my current business is dealer in sports equipment.
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QUOTE(seiluen @ May 29 2014, 03:06 AM)
interested with gaming dropship business ? you dont need to keep stock. will ship the goods to your customer under your details
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You're looking for platform to sell your products via drop shipping?
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You're looking for platform to sell your products via drop shipping?
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yup. any suggestion ?
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yup. any suggestion ?
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Plenty of drop shipping platforms online:

http://www.lamido.com.my
http://www.mudah.my/
http://www.lelong.com.my/
http://www.rakuten.com.my/
http://www.lazada.com.my/
http://www.dealmates.com.my/

Box shops (http://www.vidafine.com/blog/2009/10/shop-in-a-box/) but it's more on consignment.

If you wanna do it via a retail store, you have to talk to the retailer directly & strike your own deal with them.
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QUOTE(NightHeart @ May 29 2014, 01:17 PM)
Plenty of drop shipping platforms online:

http://www.lamido.com.my
http://www.mudah.my/
http://www.lelong.com.my/
http://www.rakuten.com.my/
http://www.lazada.com.my/
http://www.dealmates.com.my/

Box shops (http://www.vidafine.com/blog/2009/10/shop-in-a-box/) but it's more on consignment.

If you wanna do it via a retail store, you have to talk to the retailer directly & strike your own deal with them.
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wheres your kopitiam?  smile.gif
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i am starting beverage and snack kiosk business 2 years before and by luck and opportunity i have start a express cafe in recently opening HOT location. Therefore there are some mall management approach me to have new shop/stall in their various mall as they have try my food and seen my business method in my HOT location.
As i have just invest more than 500k ( with partner ) for the HOT location and shall be financial tight if need to explore into new location.
After study the current market trend, i certainly feel that food court kiosk will be one of the better option in future as we expect market to be slow down due to GST and ....but people will still need to eat. The consumer may turn to the lower price range choice such as food court.
I got 2 offers from them which under Food junction and shall open at Sept and December ( in opposite sheraton imperial sultan ismail and putrajaya ). I do have those individual lot offer from mall management also, but i do not think it be right time yet a i foreseen market be slowing down, therefore i go for food court kiosk.
Just wonder anyone with or without FNB experience would like to join me to further explore into this business. You may just opt for food court segment or you want to join as a group which include my HOT location. We may have a discussion. Just to give you some detail, food court will free rental but charge by percentage of sales and my HOT location will be change by fix rental or % of sales which ever is higher.
Current i am selling bento food but not limited to Japanese food, i am serving also local delight but i just serve in disposable bento plastic ware.
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QUOTE(erictan26 @ Jun 3 2014, 06:45 AM)
i am starting beverage and snack kiosk business 2 years before and by luck and opportunity i have start a express cafe in recently opening HOT location. Therefore there are some mall management approach me to have new shop/stall in their various mall as they have try my food and seen my business method in my HOT location.
As i have just invest more than 500k ( with partner ) for the HOT location and shall be financial tight if need to explore into new location.
After study the current market trend, i certainly feel that food court kiosk will be one of the better option in future as we expect market to be slow down due to GST and ....but people will still need to eat. The consumer may turn to the lower price range choice such as food court.
I got 2 offers from them which under Food junction and shall open at Sept and December ( in opposite sheraton imperial sultan ismail and putrajaya ). I do have those individual lot offer from mall management also, but i do not think it be right time yet a i foreseen market be slowing down, therefore i go for food court kiosk.
Just wonder anyone with or without FNB experience would like to join me to further explore into this business. You may just opt for food court segment or you want to join as a group which include my HOT location. We may have a discussion. Just to give you some detail, food court will free rental but charge by percentage of sales and my HOT location will be change by fix rental or % of sales which ever is higher.
Current i am selling bento food but not limited to Japanese food, i am serving also local delight but i just serve in disposable bento plastic ware.
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Do u consider Penang? I am from Penang and looking for biz opportunities.

How much require to join your business?

What role you expect from me?

What difference of your business compare other fnb kiosk?

From your current biz, how much is your profit?
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Guys does anyone mind sharing what can i do with 20-30k capital small buisness?? any franchaise that require this amount to start with?

thanks.
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Jun 3 2014, 08:20 AM)
Do u consider Penang? I am from Penang and looking for biz opportunities.

How much require to join your business?

What role you expect from me?

What difference of your business compare other fnb kiosk?

From your current biz, how much is your profit?
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Oh, in penang i am running kiosk in Aeon Qbay/BM, if you interested may PM me

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QUOTE(ILECHZ @ Jun 3 2014, 09:39 PM)
Guys does anyone mind sharing what can i do with 20-30k capital small buisness?? any franchaise that require this amount to start with?

thanks.
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Some smaller franchise can be done around 20-30k. Just check the Malaysia franchise page for all the business available.


QUOTE(erictan26 @ Jun 3 2014, 11:20 PM)
Oh, in penang i am running kiosk in Aeon Qbay/BM, if you interested may PM me
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Interested as in becoming your partner or you r selling your bizness?
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Jun 4 2014, 08:22 AM)
Some smaller franchise can be done around 20-30k. Just check the Malaysia franchise page for all the business available.
Interested as in becoming your partner or you r selling your bizness?
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I m selling the business but you still need my support.as we are under one brand, selling soya n snack, may not earning big
Money but just extra income, it is free rental base,so you wont pressures by high rental
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QUOTE(ILECHZ @ Jun 3 2014, 09:39 PM)
Guys does anyone mind sharing what can i do with 20-30k capital small buisness?? any franchaise that require this amount to start with?

thanks.
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Which area r u in ? R u going manage yourself or just pupm the money and wait? If just pump money, I dont think there is any, if really it wont be 30k only also.
If you want to manage your self then maybe we can work together but 30 k is sure not enough for it, I can support you as your partner. Nowadays, business in a mall, deposit already cost a lot. I m lacking personel to manage
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QUOTE(erictan26 @ Jun 4 2014, 09:31 AM)
I m selling the business but you still need my support.as we are under one brand, selling soya n snack, may not earning big
Money but just extra income, it is free rental base,so you wont pressures by high rental
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Can explain more? Pm me the details.

What u mean by sell then still need your supervison? U will help me set up and run the biz? Is it like franchise?

How much u selling?

No rental from mall management? then if no make profit they won't charge? Does it charge by profit o revenue?
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Hi guys, nice to meet you all. I running a software house providing software development for businesses, web or desktop.

As a start, sharing this a free invoicing software, wanna gotten some feedback. I think key differentiation with others existing one,
1. it is free totally,
2. you may use your familiar MSWord to create your Invoice,Quotation,Receipt template,
3. dedicated for start up, everything is flexible: add item not inside product list, invoice customer not inside records, different price, different remarks of different customers etc.

To download, go to Facebook, search for 'Grassland System'

there are however some limitations, single user only, no stock/inventory smile.gif

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Hi all,

A profitable business looking for a new investor:
- to leverage on marketing and networking

Some background on the business:
- commence operation in August 2012
- great location (main entrance) in shopping mall (permanent structure)
- sales more than RM500k per year

Return to new potential investor:
- monthly minimum profit guarantee of 20% from EBITDA
- payback period less than 3 years

Drop us your email address, we will forward the term sheet to you.

Thank you.
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Which area r u in ? R u going manage yourself or just pupm the money and wait? If just pump money, I dont think there is any, if really it wont be 30k only also.
If you want to manage your self then maybe we can work together but 30 k is sure not enough for it, I can support you as your partner. Nowadays, business in a mall, deposit already cost a lot. I m lacking personel to manage
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Do u have any francise in JB? I have 100k capital to start a biz.

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Hi forumers,

Me and my partners are looking for a few more investor for this large scale future franchise based cafe. Our concept is based on tea bar and grill, and the food and drink will not be found elsewhere in Malaysia. We do not like to copy what others are currently doing and innovation is the key for f&b to continue to grow and make a success. Opening will be on September this year. Anyone interested can PM me for more details. Thanks! :-)
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QUOTE(erictan26 @ Jun 4 2014, 09:31 AM)
I m selling the business but you still need my support.as we are under one brand, selling soya n snack, may not earning big
Money but just extra income, it is free rental base,so you wont pressures by high rental
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Jun 4 2014, 10:21 AM)
Can explain more? Pm me the details.

What u mean by sell then still need your supervison? U will help me set up and run the biz? Is it like franchise?

How much u selling?

No rental from mall management?  then if no make profit they won't charge? Does it charge by profit o revenue?
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hey sammich im in penang as well...im also interested to start biz but need partners and experienced ppl..mayb we can meet up n form jv if u wan...erictan ur shop is selling soya n snack, and u hv 1 in aeon QB..is it in aeon supermarket itself, aeon food court or QB food court?
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QUOTE(yamasce @ Jun 10 2014, 06:22 PM)
hey sammich im in penang as well...im also interested to start biz but need partners and experienced ppl..mayb we can meet up n form jv if u wan...erictan ur shop is selling soya n snack, and u hv 1 in aeon QB..is it in aeon supermarket itself, aeon food court or QB food court?
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My plan to open a Ladies fashion shoes and children shoes shop at a shopping center FAILED because of no support in terms of monetary capital investment and mentality support.

Now I am back to square one. Just dreaming of having an own business.

May I ask.......

1. Is there any small business that can earn about RM8000 per month giving full time involvement and with maybe one or 2 staffs to take care of the shop?

2. If there is, any idea what kind of business can that be? Can selling phone, tablet, gadgets and accessories able to earn up to that much??

Thanks.

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QUOTE(Wan+ @ Jun 16 2014, 05:13 PM)
My plan to open a Ladies fashion shoes and children shoes shop at a shopping center FAILED because of no support in terms of monetary capital investment and mentality support.

Now I am back to square one. Just dreaming of having an own business.

May I ask.......

1. Is there any small business that can earn about RM8000 per month giving full time involvement and with maybe one or 2 staffs to take care of the shop?

2. If there is, any idea what kind of business can that be? Can selling phone, tablet, gadgets and accessories able to earn up to that much??

Thanks.
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every business can earn up to rm8000 or mayb more, depends how you run it =.=
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QUOTE(zzGamerzz @ Jun 17 2014, 08:12 AM)
every business can earn up to rm8000 or mayb more,  depends how you run it =.=
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He does not want the business to earn RM8k/m. He wants nett profit RM8k/m. smile.gif
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He does not want the business to earn RM8k/m. He wants nett profit RM8k/m. smile.gif
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No, of course I want to earn more than RM8k.

What I mean is to have a business that can generate salary of at least more than RM8k.

Any idea what kind of business can do that?


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QUOTE(Wan+ @ Jun 17 2014, 01:05 PM)
No, of course I want to earn more than RM8k.

What I mean is to have a business that can generate salary of at least more than RM8k.

Any idea what kind of business can do that?
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sell property. If become agent also get more than 8k liao if manage sell 1 per month
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Hi all.

I failed 1 business before (T-Shirt printing) with estimated loss of RM40K.

2nd business (2014 till now with RM100 capital), i involved in food business (cakes) by doing it direct selling. I really loved this kind of selling approach because it really push myself far out of my comfort zone (adrenaline), force me to think even harder.

Profit margin is 30% but the good thing is i always maintain certain volume which can give me over than RM120 net profit per day. Malas day still can produce RM60++ net profit. Still worth it because i don't have to pay salaries, or rental.

I suggest you guys try this business and it will open your eyes and boost your financial IQ. Lets start small.
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QUOTE(Wan+ @ Jun 16 2014, 05:13 PM)
My plan to open a Ladies fashion shoes and children shoes shop at a shopping center FAILED because of no support in terms of monetary capital investment and mentality support.

Now I am back to square one. Just dreaming of having an own business.

May I ask.......

1. Is there any small business that can earn about RM8000 per month giving full time involvement and with maybe one or 2 staffs to take care of the shop?

2. If there is, any idea what kind of business can that be? Can selling phone, tablet, gadgets and accessories able to earn up to that much??

Thanks.
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need to put ALOT effort in the business to reach that stage
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QUOTE(Encik Aduka @ Jun 19 2014, 02:52 PM)
Hi all.

I failed 1 business before (T-Shirt printing) with estimated loss of RM40K.

2nd business (2014 till now with RM100 capital), i involved in food business (cakes) by doing it direct selling. I really loved this kind of selling approach because it really push myself far out of my comfort zone (adrenaline), force me to think even harder.

Profit margin is 30% but the good thing is i always maintain certain volume which can give me over than RM120 net profit per day. Malas day still can produce RM60++ net profit. Still worth it because i don't have to pay salaries, or rental.

I suggest you guys try this business and it will open your eyes and boost your financial IQ. Lets start small.
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y tshirt print business need until 40k so much? U do large scale buy a lot machine like factory?

And do u troubleshoot the reason of failure?
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Jun 20 2014, 08:32 AM)
y tshirt print business need until 40k so much? U do large scale buy a lot machine like factory?

And do u troubleshoot the reason of failure?
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No large machine. JV with 4 other friends, all inexperienced. For start up, we only bought huge quantity of ready made T-Shirt, small printing material & equipment, a computer, printer, brand tags, and rental fees. Balance around 9k, we didn't wait long and enjoyed the money like there's no tomorrow. FYI, i made personal loan from bank for that 40k. As that was my first business, i was greedy and blindly jump onto it.

Lucky us, for the first month, we made small profit of 2.5k with sales worth more than 10k. But our stupidity, we don't keep track of cash flow & budgeting. Sometime, i myself put a few ringgits into my pocket to pay the toll, gas or personal expenses - out of record. Yes, it was that bad, no integrity and discipline.

4 months later, bad things happen. We fall apart and only 2 of us left to handle the business due to personal argument. Sales turn zero, expenses increase but it doesn't affect our bad habit of using company's money to pay our personal spending. We no longer afford to pay the rental and was kicked out of the space after 3 months outstanding payment. But we still don't give up, we tried to sell it online and sometimes looking for opportunity to rent-a-day space in music fest, gig, or any exhibition. Result still same, sales were very slow and couldn't catch up with the expense such as fuel, rental, salary and anything. Tried to do consignment but nobody want to take. We worked day and night, and when i recall, it was very very exhausting.

Year later, i give it up and let the friend handle it since i were about to get married. My friend still doing the business but from what i heard, the business was like hidup segan, mati tak mahu.
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QUOTE(Encik Aduka @ Jun 20 2014, 10:44 AM)
No large machine. JV with 4 other friends, all inexperienced. For start up, we only bought huge quantity of ready made T-Shirt, small printing material & equipment, a computer, printer, brand tags, and rental fees. Balance around 9k, we didn't wait long and enjoyed the money like there's no tomorrow. FYI, i made personal loan from bank for that 40k. As that was my first business, i was greedy and blindly jump onto it.

Lucky us, for the first month, we made small profit of 2.5k with sales worth more than 10k. But our stupidity, we don't keep track of cash flow & budgeting. Sometime, i myself put a few ringgits into my pocket to pay the toll, gas or personal expenses - out of record. Yes, it was that bad, no integrity and discipline.

4 months later, bad things happen. We fall apart and only 2 of us left to handle the business due to personal argument. Sales turn zero, expenses increase but it doesn't affect our bad habit of using company's money to pay our personal spending. We no longer afford to pay the rental and was kicked out of the space after 3 months outstanding payment. But we still don't give up, we tried to sell it online and sometimes looking for opportunity to rent-a-day space in music fest, gig, or any exhibition. Result still same, sales were very slow and couldn't catch up with the expense such as fuel, rental, salary and anything. Tried to do consignment but nobody want to take. We worked day and night, and when i recall, it was very very exhausting.

Year later, i give it up and let the friend handle it since i were about to get married. My friend still doing the business but from what i heard, the business was like hidup segan, mati tak mahu.
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great experience and learning there.

So the total 40k loss is not initial investment but total loss of all operating until shut down including months of rental right? COs initial startup wouldn't be that high.
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Thnx for the share thumbup.gif

great experience and learning there.

So the total 40k loss is not initial investment but total loss of all operating until shut down including months of rental right? COs initial startup wouldn't be that high.
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U welcome.

Yes, total 40k is business capital loss which all funded by me. The other friends can be assumed as employee, but with profit sharing + salary. See how dumb it is, me as the head of the company had totally failed. But still i don't blame them for that mistake, because i am the one who should bear the responsibility.

I thank that loss and bad experience, because it just moved me to the next level. Now, i am starting low. Very low risk. Dunno, my habit of spending changed totally. Now i know how easy it is to make money. And also how to spend money tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Encik Aduka @ Jun 20 2014, 12:15 PM)
U welcome.

Yes, total 40k is business capital loss which all funded by me. The other friends can be assumed as employee, but with profit sharing + salary. See how dumb it is, me as the head of the company had totally failed. But still i don't blame them for that mistake, because i am the one who should bear the responsibility.

I thank that loss and bad experience, because it just moved me to the next level. Now, i am starting low. Very low risk. Dunno, my habit of spending changed totally. Now i know how easy it is to make money. And also how to spend money  tongue.gif
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Do u haf a shop in your current business and hire ppl? Or just done by u and direct sell? Not sure what u mean by direct sell in your case..

Wheres your location? Would like to meet ppl with same kind of thinking and mindset thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Jun 20 2014, 01:01 PM)
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Do u haf a shop in your current business and hire ppl? Or just done by u and direct sell? Not sure what u mean by direct sell in your case..

Wheres your location? Would like to meet ppl with same kind of thinking and mindset thumbup.gif
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No, i don't have any shop but i do hire people (only one (permanent) or sometime two - Part-timer). I am currently working (This is due to my strategy of buying property by using Other people's money - Bank).

I do selling after work and weekend, together with my employee but we split into two location to optimize selling time. Direct selling in my case is = Imagine a typical Malaysian movie about poor boy with huge basket shouting "cake, cake, cake". This is why i call it 'far out of my comfort zone'. I believe in phrase 'You make money when you do something when other peoples refuse/shy to do'. I love rejection and i will (if any) counter it by positivism. Instead of scolding me or halau me from selling, most people that i approach, no matter they buy or not, they will encourage me to keep doing what i do. If you act down to earth, you'll found that most people will get to like you. What i discovered in a few months back is, the most important skill of doing any direct selling is your interpretation and the appliance of non-verbal language (I'm not lecturing you guys tongue.gif i just sharing my experience.

I am now at Kota Kinabalu, Sabah. First business is in KL, but i moved here because i was transferred by my employer a few years ago. I love too, i really love to hear advice or other people's opinion, because that is how i transform my way of thinking.





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QUOTE(Encik Aduka @ Jun 20 2014, 03:07 PM)
No, i don't have any shop but i do hire people (only one (permanent) or sometime two - Part-timer). I am currently working (This is due to my strategy of buying property by using Other people's money - Bank).

I do selling after work and weekend, together with my employee but we split into two location to optimize selling time. Direct selling in my case is = Imagine a typical Malaysian movie about poor boy with huge basket shouting "cake, cake, cake". This is why i call it 'far out of my comfort zone'. I believe in phrase 'You make money when you do something when other peoples refuse/shy to do'. I love rejection and i will (if any) counter it by positivism. Instead of scolding me or halau me from selling, most people that i approach, no matter they buy or not, they will encourage me to keep doing what i do. If you act down to earth, you'll found that most people will get to like you. What i discovered in a few months back is, the most important skill of doing any direct selling is your interpretation and the appliance of non-verbal language (I'm not lecturing you guys  tongue.gif  i just sharing my experience.

I am now at Kota Kinabalu, Sabah. First business is in KL, but i moved here because i was transferred by my employer a few years ago. I love too, i really love to hear advice or other people's opinion, because that is how i transform my way of thinking.
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By teh way sammich, mind sharing what business you are in?
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I wanted to open online business to sell IT hardware in malaysia.

But i don't know where to get supplier.

Will this kind of business can earn?

Need help from those experience ppl..... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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By teh way sammich, mind sharing what business you are in?
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food business also haha.. that's why we r fieldmates.. I wont say competition. Not because u r far away. Even if u r next to me still I believe every entrepreneur can compliment each other and not fight against each other
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Jun 20 2014, 04:34 PM)
food business also haha.. that's why we r fieldmates.. I wont say competition. Not because u r far away. Even if u r next to me still I believe every entrepreneur can compliment each other and not fight against each other
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True. Its actually beneficial for all operators to open up near to each other... other than making it a central location to cover the biggest market, it is also natural for the clusters to appear since it is inherently the best location... this video explains it really well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jILgxeNBK_8
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QUOTE(Encik Aduka @ Jun 20 2014, 03:07 PM)
No, i don't have any shop but i do hire people (only one (permanent) or sometime two - Part-timer). I am currently working (This is due to my strategy of buying property by using Other people's money - Bank).

I do selling after work and weekend, together with my employee but we split into two location to optimize selling time. Direct selling in my case is = Imagine a typical Malaysian movie about poor boy with huge basket shouting "cake, cake, cake". This is why i call it 'far out of my comfort zone'. I believe in phrase 'You make money when you do something when other peoples refuse/shy to do'. I love rejection and i will (if any) counter it by positivism. Instead of scolding me or halau me from selling, most people that i approach, no matter they buy or not, they will encourage me to keep doing what i do. If you act down to earth, you'll found that most people will get to like you. What i discovered in a few months back is, the most important skill of doing any direct selling is your interpretation and the appliance of non-verbal language (I'm not lecturing you guys  tongue.gif  i just sharing my experience.

I am now at Kota Kinabalu, Sabah. First business is in KL, but i moved here because i was transferred by my employer a few years ago. I love too, i really love to hear advice or other people's opinion, because that is how i transform my way of thinking.
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wow. very motivating. working salary + RM120 a day, you'll retire comfortably as long as you save it and not spend like no tomorrow laugh.gif
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wow. very motivating. working salary + RM120 a day, you'll retire comfortably as long as you save it and not spend like no tomorrow  laugh.gif
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1. Do budget surplus.
2. Do not overspend.
3. Repeat till rich.

The most difficult thing to apply is the above mantra. I myself failed many times, you know family needs. laugh.gif


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Hi Guys smile.gif

i am now trying my fourth business, but this time i am starting with smaller capital.
now it have been for 2 weeks, no gain yet but still hoping for the best in next 4 months biggrin.gif

Title: REDCLAW PROJECT
Capital : RM500
a. 1x Air Pump 20L/min - RM30
b. 1x set of Mini Package consist of 6 adult lobsters, 6 premature lobsters and portable air pump - RM290
c. 4x rectangular basin - RM20 each. Total RM80
d. 3x set of batteries size D - RM12 each set. Total RM36
e. 2 feet of PVC pipe for lobster hiding spot - RM5
f. 2 x crab cuisine pellet for lobster food - RM14 each. total RM28 (recurring on monthly basis)
g. Other miscellaneous stuff
h. Minor renovation = Not required since i am putting all the basin in one of my house room

Workers : No workers
Opinion : Slow profit earning and need to focus on market or alternative buyers. But the maintenance cost is really minimal since lobsters are high disease resistance. No need special attention since u only need to feed them and let them breed.
Expected Monthly Income :
Considering I have 3 pairs for adult lobster and each pair will give about 80-500 eggs.
Since I am newbie and lot more to learn, there is only 30%-50% chance of success in breeding the lobster babies.
3 pairs x minimum 80 eggs x 30% success chance = 72 of lobster babies
these babies will mature within 4 months with average price of RM40 each.
So, RM40 x 72 / 4 months = RM720 per month

I know it sounds very low but looking at how it been done, i can consider this is my passive side income smile.gif

This post has been edited by suadrif: Jun 23 2014, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(RO Player @ Jun 23 2014, 10:30 AM)
any successful of these venture from others?

lobsters in captivity, can grow bigger than others?

normally these lobsters (u mention within 4 months), who are the buyers?
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successful venture, quite numbers of them
most johorians are looking for more breeders due to unable to cope with supply from Singapore especially during CNY
for my area in Malacca, there are only 3 full time breeders with their own farm and still lacking of supply.
My mini package was supplied by one of breeders from Terengganu.
the first delivery was fail due to 8 of 10 lobsters are dead during transportation by Skynet.
The following week, my breeder replace the dead with 6 adult lobsters.

the buyers, are mostly food stall in rural area.
my place quite popular with seafood and prawn curry mee.
and i believe the attraction is there.

btw, i dont understand what u mean by your 2nd statement. mind to explain more?
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** how big, can it grow in your basin? any photos?

i heard, some big companies grow lobsters off sabah coast, near the coast, but seawater...definately sea water lobsters more lucrative than growing in the basin..
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Yea i got photos but none in my pc smile.gif
later on i will upload it if there is free time

FYI, sea water lobsters are higher demand compared to fresh water. for some reason (might be due to nature of living or food consumed by the lobsters), sea lobster are more sweet and tasty compared to fresh water. but for this particular issue, only 4 star hotel and above are concern on the lobster origin. the rest of it, they might care or they might dont even realize it. that is why the price of it become so much different.

as for the size, growing lobster in basin is not possible to be bigger than 8 inch.
naturally for lobster, or any shell life such as crab, they grow according to their surrounding.
the bigger the surrounding, the higher potential for them to grow in size.
if u want the lobster to grow further big more than 8 inch, u need to move them in land pond or farm.
btw, the size 8 inch given is an average size for comparison purposes. it might be less than that.

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From time to time,  I really get lot of information here.  After 3 years of talking and dreaming about my passion and business that I wanna do,  I finally resign my full time job. 
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From time to time,  I really get lot of information here.  After 3 years of talking and dreaming about my passion and business that I wanna do,  I finally resign my full time job. 
Will share here once I successfully achieve it smile.gif
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there will be always two kind of person, The Thinker and The Do-er
Thinker can plan and plan and plan, but nothing is done.
The Do-er, is think and get the things run  rclxms.gif
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Thats right. After being thinker for such a long time, I should do it.
I even saw some of my own post talking about my plan 3 years ago. Enough is enough smile.gif
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Jun 23 2014, 10:25 AM)
Hi Guys smile.gif

i am now trying my fourth business, but this time i am starting with smaller capital.
now it have been for 2 weeks, no gain yet but still hoping for the best in next 4 months biggrin.gif

Title: REDCLAW PROJECT
Capital : RM500
a. 1x Air Pump 20L/min - RM30
b. 1x set of Mini Package consist of 6 adult lobsters, 6 premature lobsters and portable air pump - RM290
c. 4x rectangular basin - RM20 each. Total RM80
d. 3x set of batteries size D - RM12 each set. Total RM36
e. 2 feet of PVC pipe for lobster hiding spot - RM5
f.  2 x crab cuisine pellet for lobster food - RM14 each. total RM28 (recurring on monthly basis)
g. Other miscellaneous stuff
h. Minor renovation = Not required since i am putting all the basin in one of my house room

Workers : No workers
Opinion : Slow profit earning and need to focus on market or alternative buyers. But the maintenance cost is really minimal since lobsters are high disease resistance. No need special attention since u only need to feed them and let them breed.
Expected Monthly Income :
Considering I have 3 pairs for adult lobster and each pair will give about 80-500 eggs.
Since I am newbie and lot more to learn, there is only 30%-50% chance of success in breeding the lobster babies.
3 pairs x minimum 80 eggs x 30% success chance = 72 of lobster babies
these babies will mature within 4 months with average price of RM40 each.
So, RM40 x 72 / 4 months = RM720 per month

I know it sounds very low but looking at how it been done, i can consider this is my passive side income smile.gif
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hi there.

sounds interesting. mind to furnish me on this project? sounds good for a spare time hobby. smile.gif
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hi there.

sounds interesting. mind to furnish me on this project? sounds good for a spare time hobby. smile.gif
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No problem
PM me your email and contact number
but please bear in mind that i am still amateur and dont expect professional level of advise tongue.gif
but i can assist as much as i can rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Jun 23 2014, 11:25 AM)
Hi Guys smile.gif

i am now trying my fourth business, but this time i am starting with smaller capital.
now it have been for 2 weeks, no gain yet but still hoping for the best in next 4 months biggrin.gif

Title: REDCLAW PROJECT
Capital : RM500
a. 1x Air Pump 20L/min - RM30
b. 1x set of Mini Package consist of 6 adult lobsters, 6 premature lobsters and portable air pump - RM290
c. 4x rectangular basin - RM20 each. Total RM80
d. 3x set of batteries size D - RM12 each set. Total RM36
e. 2 feet of PVC pipe for lobster hiding spot - RM5
f.  2 x crab cuisine pellet for lobster food - RM14 each. total RM28 (recurring on monthly basis)
g. Other miscellaneous stuff
h. Minor renovation = Not required since i am putting all the basin in one of my house room

Workers : No workers
Opinion : Slow profit earning and need to focus on market or alternative buyers. But the maintenance cost is really minimal since lobsters are high disease resistance. No need special attention since u only need to feed them and let them breed.
Expected Monthly Income :
Considering I have 3 pairs for adult lobster and each pair will give about 80-500 eggs.
Since I am newbie and lot more to learn, there is only 30%-50% chance of success in breeding the lobster babies.
3 pairs x minimum 80 eggs x 30% success chance = 72 of lobster babies
these babies will mature within 4 months with average price of RM40 each.
So, RM40 x 72 / 4 months = RM720 per month

I know it sounds very low but looking at how it been done, i can consider this is my passive side income smile.gif
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thanks in advance.

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hey there.. do drop me a PM as well when you can smile.gif
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bro
drop me an email so that i can share with u
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hey there.. do drop me a PM as well when you can smile.gif
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bro
drop me an email so that i can share with u
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haha u guys funny... one guy ask pm then another come back ask email lol
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haha u guys funny... one guy ask pm then another come back ask email lol
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hahaha biggrin.gif
but i think the correct and proper way is to PM someone for info, instead of asking people to PM to give info
it just shows that u are serious venturer rclxms.gif
nevertheless, it works on both way nod.gif
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Jun 24 2014, 04:06 PM)
hahaha biggrin.gif
but i think the correct and proper way is to PM someone for info, instead of asking people to PM to give info
it just shows that u are serious venturer  rclxms.gif
nevertheless, it works on both way  nod.gif
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I agree with u. If someone ask u to pm means he doesn't really care about what u haf to offer. If the guy really keen he will take the step.
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I also post my previous venture details as well ;-)

Type : Food & Beverages (Italian and Western Food and Drinks)
Capital : RM90,000
Location : Ipoh
Shop size : 1 lot 10 tables only

a) Shop rental + deposit 2 month + deposit electricity/water = RM9,000
b) Renovations (paint,glass panel door and wall,kitchen cement + partitions, floor and wall tiles, bar, sink, furniture) = RM35,000
c) Coffee machine = RM11,000 (this is not ordinary coffee machine despite the pricing, it's a full feature coffee machine with milk frother and two head)
d) Plates, glass cup, coffee cup, metal cup, cutlery etc = RM5,000
e) Electrical component (wires, lightning, wall plug, airconditioning) = RM12,000
f) Kitchen (oven, microwave, stove, fridge, etc) = RM7,000
g) Food and drinks material (coffee beans, teas, meat, vegetables,milk, spices) RM10,000++

Roughly estimated. But overall we used up to RM90,000.

Workers : 6 (2 kitchen, 4 front)
Salary : RM4.5 per hour averaging
excluding tips and service charges.

Daily Revenue : RM1,100++ averaging (most of the business comes from weekends)
Daily expenses : RM600 at least
Profit : RM10k-14k monthly

Opinion : It's kinda successful despite our 1 lot shop and we only have 10 tables. Strange huh? 10 tables and we're mostly packed due to the fact we do not advertise, but FREE social networking (food bloggers, instagrams, etc) and facebook sharing our food picture that booms everything we had. We have appeared and featured in Star newspaper and also MAS magazines and also Motormouth food blog. I didn't expect it to be successful because we are actually challenging the fact we don't sell spaghetti or chicken chop like the rest of the cafe. We want to be unique and so, we created a lot of stuffs that can't be found elsewhere in Ipoh and Malaysia nationwide. We do have customer complaints our variety of food isn't that MAJORITY because some of their friends wanted spaghetti or rice or steak. In the end we do offer italian herb rice with marinated chicken and spices to make it different than just a chicken chop + sauce + plain rice, because we still don't want to follow what others is doing. Most of our ingredients is imported.

Next Venture : Now me and my partner (the MASTER CHEF) are going to opened another with bigger venture this time in one of the upmarket gardens in Ipoh. It's triple the size we had last time. We already secured the spots, that is included with outdoor garden as dining area as well. We are scheduled to open by September. I already posted earlier in this particular thread about this newest venture. Anyone interested can PM me.

Cheers~! :-)







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Online business trading in mobile phone & accessories industry

Capital - RM 0.
Location - Online

Started from scratch, doing everything myself, now slowly expanding and have 3 workers. If got business partner oversea, can definitely earn much more in the range of 5 figures.
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QUOTE(shoduken @ Jun 24 2014, 05:18 PM)
I also post my previous venture details as well ;-)

Type : Food & Beverages (Italian and Western Food and Drinks)
Capital : RM90,000
Location : Ipoh
Shop size : 1 lot 10 tables only

a) Shop rental + deposit 2 month + deposit electricity/water = RM9,000
b) Renovations (paint,glass panel door and wall,kitchen cement + partitions, floor and wall tiles, bar, sink, furniture) = RM35,000
c) Coffee machine = RM11,000 (this is not ordinary coffee machine despite the pricing, it's a full feature coffee machine with milk frother and two head)
d) Plates, glass cup, coffee cup, metal cup, cutlery etc = RM5,000
e) Electrical component (wires, lightning, wall plug, airconditioning) = RM12,000
f) Kitchen (oven, microwave, stove, fridge, etc) = RM7,000
g) Food and drinks material (coffee beans, teas, meat, vegetables,milk, spices) RM10,000++

Roughly estimated. But overall we used up to RM90,000.

Workers : 6 (2 kitchen, 4 front)
Salary : RM4.5 per hour averaging
excluding tips and service charges.

Daily Revenue : RM1,100++ averaging (most of the business comes from weekends)
Daily expenses : RM600 at least
Profit : RM10k-14k monthly

Opinion : It's kinda successful despite our 1 lot shop and we only have 10 tables. Strange huh? 10 tables and we're mostly packed due to the fact we do not advertise, but FREE social networking (food bloggers, instagrams, etc) and facebook sharing our food picture that booms everything we had. We have appeared and featured in Star newspaper and also MAS magazines and also Motormouth food blog. I didn't expect it to be successful because we are actually challenging the fact we don't sell spaghetti or chicken chop like the rest of the cafe. We want to be unique and so, we created a lot of stuffs that can't be found elsewhere in Ipoh and Malaysia nationwide. We do have customer complaints our variety of food isn't that MAJORITY because some of their friends wanted spaghetti or rice or steak. In the end we do offer italian herb rice with marinated chicken and spices to make it different than just a chicken chop + sauce + plain rice, because we still don't want to follow what others is doing. Most of our ingredients is imported.

Next Venture : Now me and my partner (the MASTER CHEF) are going to opened another with bigger venture this time in one of the upmarket gardens in Ipoh. It's triple the size we had last time. We already secured the spots, that is included with outdoor garden as dining area as well. We are scheduled to open by September. I already posted earlier in this particular thread about this newest venture. Anyone interested can PM me.

Cheers~! :-)
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REnovation cost 35k is it a major renovation to the whole shop? Like decorations and all? WHo is your main customers? People from all around or is it near housing area or shopping mall or something?
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Jun 23 2014, 10:25 AM)
Hi Guys smile.gif

i am now trying my fourth business, but this time i am starting with smaller capital.
now it have been for 2 weeks, no gain yet but still hoping for the best in next 4 months biggrin.gif

Title: REDCLAW PROJECT
Capital : RM500
a. 1x Air Pump 20L/min - RM30
b. 1x set of Mini Package consist of 6 adult lobsters, 6 premature lobsters and portable air pump - RM290
c. 4x rectangular basin - RM20 each. Total RM80
d. 3x set of batteries size D - RM12 each set. Total RM36
e. 2 feet of PVC pipe for lobster hiding spot - RM5
f.  2 x crab cuisine pellet for lobster food - RM14 each. total RM28 (recurring on monthly basis)
g. Other miscellaneous stuff
h. Minor renovation = Not required since i am putting all the basin in one of my house room

Workers : No workers
Opinion : Slow profit earning and need to focus on market or alternative buyers. But the maintenance cost is really minimal since lobsters are high disease resistance. No need special attention since u only need to feed them and let them breed.
Expected Monthly Income :
Considering I have 3 pairs for adult lobster and each pair will give about 80-500 eggs.
Since I am newbie and lot more to learn, there is only 30%-50% chance of success in breeding the lobster babies.
3 pairs x minimum 80 eggs x 30% success chance = 72 of lobster babies
these babies will mature within 4 months with average price of RM40 each.
So, RM40 x 72 / 4 months = RM720 per month

I know it sounds very low but looking at how it been done, i can consider this is my passive side income smile.gif
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Very interesting project indeed! Hope you dont mind I am now sending you a PM wanted to learn more about rearing the lobster laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Jun 25 2014, 08:36 AM)
REnovation cost 35k is it a major renovation to the whole shop? Like decorations and all? WHo is your main customers? People from all around or is it near housing area or shopping mall or something?
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I have connections with the renovators in town. 35k because we didn't do the ceilings. We leave it as it makes the area more roomier and bigger. The shop was clean to start with (no cracks or anything that needed to be repaired) and it's all depend on the lightning bulb with fancy covers that do the trick and the color paintings. So it was nice and cozy with dawn lightning. No decorations except we painted our logo on the wall with the help of local artists.

My main customers is mostly youngsters and some bankers/sales/elderly but the one who spend the most is also the youngsters. We do located near shopping mall but the walking distance can be quite sweaty.

Ipoh is actually booming with cafes everywhere. You can search for this on the net. I do not know why the phenomena but I do realize after I opened this cafe that nowadays Ipoh people are very rich. I find Ipoh's cafe pricing is much more expensive than KL, yet they will spend it if it taste good.
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QUOTE(shoduken @ Jun 25 2014, 12:53 PM)
I have connections with the renovators in town. 35k because we didn't do the ceilings. We leave it as it makes the area more roomier and bigger. The shop was clean to start with (no cracks or anything that needed to be repaired) and it's all depend on the lightning bulb with fancy covers that do the trick and the color paintings. So it was nice and cozy with dawn lightning. No decorations except we painted our logo on the wall with the help of local artists.

My main customers is mostly youngsters and some bankers/sales/elderly but the one who spend the most is also the youngsters. We do located near shopping mall but the walking distance can be quite sweaty.

Ipoh is actually booming with cafes everywhere. You can search for this on the net. I do not know why the phenomena but I do realize after I opened this cafe that nowadays Ipoh people are very rich. I find Ipoh's cafe pricing is much more expensive than KL, yet they will spend it if it taste good.
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If the shop condition is already good and you only do minor renovations then 35k seems expensive. Where does the major of the cost go to? I thinkis glass panel door, kitchen and floor and wall tiles? I assume u invets heavily in the kitchen?
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If the shop condition is already good and you only do minor renovations then 35k seems expensive. Where does the major of the cost go to? I thinkis glass panel door, kitchen and floor and wall tiles? I assume u invets heavily in the kitchen?
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The shop condition is good because it's actually blank. There is no wall covering the kitchen area which you have to build yourselves. We have to build the bar as well as a gigantic wall that act as a menu. Glass panel is expensive because we have make a mistake there where we have to resize the glass door. And there included furniture, wall mounted seats, there and here you'll added up. I think it's cheap compared to what other interior designer quote me 11k for just the bar earlier. :-|


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Good sharing from suadrif and shoduken .

All the best to your venture. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Good sharing from suadrif and shoduken .

All the best to your venture.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i haven't see u anymore lately
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If I want to buy over an established retailing business in a shopping mall, what are the criteria and considerations to look at before decided to buy over ?

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Actually from what I actually feel, Malaysian is looking for affordable & value for money items.

For example :
Item : Small Pagoda
Feng Shui Shop : RM120
I am selling : RM 80 which include delivery cost.

Quality wise, maybe/may not be the same, but it functioning the same way. Why not purchasing from me instead of those shops?

One good example would be my mom. A lot of feng shui stuff in my house are purchase from other places (not feng shui shop) as it is much cheaper. I guess more than 50% of the stuff.

Secondly, I feel that not everyone willing to step in Feng Shui shop to listen advice from Feng Shui Master in the shop, as they do not know what they actually need. Instead, if I put it online, people would read and may compare it via GOOGLE.
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I wonder how those MBE (Mail Boxes Etc) can make money? And some of them open in establishing those shopping malls.

Sure not enough to cover rental itself right?
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thanks edyek
i haven't see u anymore lately
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busy collecting asset i guess?  rclxms.gif
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Helo, suadrif... I do login from time to time. Only reply to PM or topic or post that interest me or when I'm actually free enough to surf Lowyat. biggrin.gif

Yes, more to Prop thread, but only active in certain topics. Not much of a business entrepreneur these days. sweat.gif

Glad that many forummers boost this thread to V2 and still so many quires and knowledge to be share among forummers. thumbup.gif
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Hi @edyek

Your siggy has got very good reminder and information. Thanks! thumbup.gif
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Hi sifu here,

I currently a students.
I registered a company last year August. The company wasn't active.

However, now already 1 year, I am actually thinking to renew it.
Can any advice if I need to submit annual return to SSM? As I am a student, i dont have any personal income tax account though.

If yes, can anyone advice what form to submit?

I have been searching online , but I still kinda confuse..
Apreciate if anyone can kindly offer help..
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If you have a Sdn Bhd your auditor and company secretary will help u out

if you have sole proprietor, partnership, or LLP, then u just pay the annual fees to SSM. For tax returns u refer to LHDN, register yourself with them first.
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If you have a Sdn Bhd your auditor and company secretary will help u out

if you have sole proprietor, partnership, or LLP, then u just pay the annual fees to SSM. For tax returns u refer to LHDN, register yourself with them first.
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Thank you for your help smile.gif
So i guess i should register myself with LHDN then. blush.gif

Is there any specific form that I can fill to indicate that there is no any business opportunity? hmm.gif
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Hi all,

Myself and some friends are looking to invest in some manufacturing machines to process agriculture waste and make them into biomass product.

We spoke to a few machine supplier and each of them has different offerings, there is one which we are quite pleased with the offerings but the supplier location is hundreds of km away from us, we have not dealt with them before. Apart from phone call and website, we are prepare to pay the supplier a visit, however there is still possibility of being cheated according to an experience of a friend a while ago when the 'supplier' borrowed some facilities to show buyer and claimed they sell the facilities.

I know there must be a way to address this but I just lack of such information. One of us was discussing about the risk (whether the supplier could cheat us, for example after receiving payment, they do not send us our order of machines)..

Is there any precaution or transaction protection law we can use to protect our purchase with the supplier?

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QUOTE(SunofaBeach @ Jul 17 2014, 07:21 PM)
Hi all,

Myself and some friends are looking to invest in some manufacturing machines to process agriculture waste and make  them into biomass product.

We spoke to a few machine supplier and each of them has different offerings, there is one which we are quite pleased with the offerings but the supplier location is hundreds of km away from us, we have not dealt with them before. Apart from phone call and website, we are prepare to pay the supplier a visit, however there is still possibility of being cheated according to an experience of a friend a while ago when the 'supplier' borrowed some facilities to show buyer and claimed they sell the facilities.

I know there must be a way to address this but I just lack of such information. One of us was discussing about the risk (whether the supplier could cheat us, for example after receiving payment, they do not send us our order of machines)..

Is there any precaution or transaction protection law we can use to protect our purchase with the supplier?

Appreciate your opinions  notworthy.gif Many thanks
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We provide Virtual Office and Serviced Office Suites. We also do Corporate Services such as Company Incorporation, Work Permit, Business License application, Accounting, Taxation, and all other business solutions you require.

Email me now and let me know your concerns. I can help you.

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Hi ALL,

We provide Virtual Office and Serviced Office Suites. We also do Corporate Services such as Company Incorporation, Work Permit, Business License application, Accounting, Taxation, and all other business solutions you require.

Email me now and let me know your concerns. I can help you.

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My 'concern' is that you start spamming all threads here, advertising your services, and wasted my precious times clicking the threads hoping there are ideas that SME owners wanna share here.

Probably you wanna advertise at classified area instead?

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hi guys,

while loitering around find for ideas, i found this website. https://www.quirky.com/influence

(not mine, all rights reserved to quirky.com)

from what i understand, it's basically a website for u to submit your ideas. no funding from your side.

you submit ideas, they vote for the idea, they have a team who will design/craft the end product.

then they will try to sell your idea/product in the market. heard that it's gonna be a profit sharing thingy.

can we start this in Msia?

sounds a lil like kickstarter. just that you dont do any fundraising. biggrin.gif
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thinking to open a physical shop for my online business at my hometown in perak. any suggestion/opinion are welcome. so far my analyze

advantage
- Walk in Crowd
- place to display all my products
- easier for COD

disadvantage
- need to be in shop most of the time
- rental


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Hi ALL,

We provide Virtual Office and Serviced Office Suites. We also do Corporate Services such as Company Incorporation, Work Permit, Business License application, Accounting, Taxation, and all other business solutions you require.

Email me now and let me know your concerns. I can help you.

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QUOTE(seiluen @ Jul 23 2014, 08:28 PM)
thinking to open a physical shop for my online business at my hometown in perak. any suggestion/opinion are welcome. so far my analyze

advantage
- Walk in Crowd
- place to display all my products
- easier for COD

disadvantage
- need to be in shop most of the time
- rental
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calculate the ROI , if you have a feeling that good chance or increasing profit , beating the cost ... and able to help you sell through stock faster (better volume) why not ?

staff can always hire, just incurr the cost as part of your opex

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guys anyone tried to claim MDG from matrade b4? issit difficult to claim?
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QUOTE(kinggekko @ Jul 24 2014, 05:28 PM)
calculate the ROI , if you have a feeling that good chance or increasing profit , beating the cost ... and able to help you sell through stock faster (better volume) why not ?

staff can always hire, just incurr the cost as part of your opex
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Thanks for advise. you help doing domain ? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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Thanks for advise. you help doing domain ? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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hi guys,~ need some opinion in a business plan

Planning to sell some branded jewellery and sell them in stores.
Based on my calculations/prediction if sale-able it'll reek a net profit of about 25%

Is a 20-25% profit business DO-able~?

Eg 10k investment:- 2k-2.5k return


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QUOTE(seiluen @ Jul 23 2014, 07:28 PM)
thinking to open a physical shop for my online business at my hometown in perak. any suggestion/opinion are welcome. so far my analyze

advantage
- Walk in Crowd
- place to display all my products
- easier for COD

disadvantage
- need to be in shop most of the time
- rental
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Why 1 of the disadvantages is "need to be in shop most of the time?"
Rental is an disadvantage, but that actually counter by all 3 advantages that you have listed.
Just need to survey for proper physical shop.

In shopping mall or shop lot?
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QUOTE(J_Vansen_S @ Jul 30 2014, 03:36 PM)
hi guys,~ need some opinion in a business plan

Planning to sell some branded jewellery and sell them in stores.
Based on my calculations/prediction if sale-able it'll reek  a net profit of about 25%

Is a 20-25% profit business DO-able~?

Eg 10k investment:- 2k-2.5k return
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Is it a monthly basis or annual basis (20-25%)?
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Because it is a decoration.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 30 2014, 05:27 PM)
Is it a monthly basis or annual basis (20-25%)?
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best case 6mths..worst case a year?
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Hi Guys,

I have business for sale. Contact me to get more info.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3307781

Thanks

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QUOTE(asidz13 @ Aug 2 2014, 09:17 AM)
Hi Guys,

I have business for sale. Contact me to get more info.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3307781

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not even a year and kaput?
a good case study here why businesses fail
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I have business for sale. Contact me to get more info.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3307781

Thanks
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not even a year and kaput?
a good case study here why businesses fail
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I wonder if @asidz13 mind sharing the story how it started and why its ending.
Definitely good case study for those of us planning to start a business.
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QUOTE(kyen @ Aug 3 2014, 09:22 AM)
I wonder if @asidz13 mind sharing the story how it started and why its ending.
Definitely good case study for those of us planning to start a business.
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He's trying to sell the business. If the problem is location (or something like that, that will be passed to the next owner and cannot be fixed), and he says that now, before the sale is made, it might affect his ability to sell.
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Well if a business is successful, very rarely people will sell it off.

Unless really got problem with maintaining it or just wanna sell off for fast profit.
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hey guys i hv been thinking of opening a futsal center but i dun hv any experience or lobang..not even the slightest idea of the capital needed, how 2 source for funds/grants, etc

so guys if any of u hv some info or know anyone done this b4 pls help to share...thx in advance
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Hi all smile.gif

icon_question.gif Need some suggestion or advice. icon_question.gif

1. What is the best biz to venture in right now in Penang? Low investment but good ROI. rclxm9.gif brows.gif
2. If i were to set up a coin operated laundry business, where would u guys suggest would be a good location? Preferably, in BM, Juru, Seberang Jaya. Can still consider on Island if the rental is reasonable. brows.gif

Plssss need some help.. rclxub.gif

Tqvm thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(yamasce @ Aug 4 2014, 01:07 PM)
hey guys i hv been thinking of opening a futsal center but i dun hv any experience or lobang..not even the slightest idea of the capital needed, how 2 source for funds/grants, etc

so guys if any of u hv some info or know anyone done this b4 pls help to share...thx in advance
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Need big space. First step is identify where got big space for rent to operate your futsal.

QUOTE(ChocoVaniella @ Aug 5 2014, 11:40 AM)
Hi all smile.gif

icon_question.gif Need some suggestion or advice.  icon_question.gif

1. What is the best biz to venture in right now in Penang? Low investment but good ROI. rclxm9.gif  brows.gif
2. If i were to set up a coin operated laundry business, where would u guys suggest would be a good location? Preferably, in BM, Juru, Seberang Jaya. Can still consider on Island if the rental is reasonable.  brows.gif

Plssss need some help..  rclxub.gif

Tqvm thumbup.gif
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How much cost do you consider reasonable? All business also best depending on how you run it thumbup.gif
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Need big space. First step is identify where got big space for rent to operate your futsal.
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i found 1 empty warehouse for rent in prai area..can consider prime area coz got alot factories and nearby gov offices..rental for 24000sqft b.u. is rm26k per month..considered the cheapest i can find for now..enough to fit in 4 FIFA standard minimum size pitches and still got bout 4000sqft additional..total cost to setup those pitches alone is minimum rm160k..

anyone wan to JV? brows.gif

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QUOTE(yamasce @ Aug 5 2014, 01:26 PM)
i found 1 empty warehouse for rent in prai area..can consider prime area coz got alot factories and nearby gov offices..rental for 24000sqft b.u. is rm26k per month..considered the cheapest i can find for now..enough to fit in 4 FIFA standard minimum size pitches and still got bout 4000sqft additional..total cost to setup those pitches alone is minimum rm160k..

anyone wan to JV?   brows.gif
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http://www.mudah.my/Bisnes+futsal+masyuk-28776977.htm

This might sound interesting to you?

**I have nothing to do with this advert, only found this while browsing stuff on the website.

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This might sound interesting to you?

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huh wat thing?
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huh wat thing?
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sorry i forgot to paste the link i found
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oh wat did u search for?still got the link?look in the history biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(williamlee_1985 @ Aug 3 2014, 04:10 PM)
Well if a business is successful, very rarely people will sell it off.

Unless really got problem with maintaining it or just wanna sell off for fast profit.
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very true indeed. some people just need fast money so yes they choose to sell them. but those who dont? why bother? just keep your damn gold mine!
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oh wat did u search for?still got the link?look in the history  biggrin.gif
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here :

http://www.mudah.my/Bisnes+futsal+masyuk-28776977.htm
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QUOTE(seiluen @ Jul 23 2014, 07:28 PM)
thinking to open a physical shop for my online business at my hometown in perak. any suggestion/opinion are welcome. so far my analyze

advantage
- Walk in Crowd
- place to display all my products
- easier for COD

disadvantage
- need to be in shop most of the time
- rental
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Bro, which part of perak is in ur list? Ipoh?
Hmm.. as of now I would recommend kampar.
Plus with ur reputation, I'm pretty sure u're going to get lots of walk in.
Don't think at shop most time is disadvantages

Cos u r the boss and definitely u going to treat ur customer well and proving good services. This alone can bring in lot of customer via recommendation.
Not to mention u will saving money from hiring an extra worker which need minimum 1k.

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Aug 6 2014, 02:09 PM)
Bro, which part of perak is in ur list? Ipoh?
Hmm.. as of now I would recommend kampar.
Plus with ur reputation, I'm pretty sure u're going to get lots of walk in.
Don't think at shop most time is disadvantages

Cos u r the boss and definitely u going to treat ur customer well and proving good services. This alone can bring in lot of customer via recommendation.
Not to mention u will saving money from hiring an extra worker which need minimum 1k.
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Thanks for your advise. at first i thought of start it at my hometown in sitiawan. maybe i can go kampar area have a look nod.gif nod.gif

you're from kampar?
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QUOTE(seiluen @ Aug 6 2014, 03:35 PM)
Thanks for your advise. at first i thought of start it at my hometown in sitiawan. maybe i can go kampar area have a look  nod.gif  nod.gif

you're from kampar?
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u're welcome.. then u should headed to their new town.
nope.. im from teluk intan..
reason for kampar is that is populated with uni student.
if im not mistaken(read from newspaper few months back), the amount for 1sem/course amounted to at least 8k ppl, for utar.
there's still ktar and kamparian.

all the best and may your business bloom smile.gif

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Understand some of you running business on part time basis. Do u registered your business entity as well?
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How much cost do you consider reasonable? All business also best depending on how you run it thumbup.gif
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Hi Sammich.

The cost i wouldnt mind considering between rm50k to rm100k, again depending on what sort of biz. I have invested in a cafe, and its still operating. But, i would want to try to do something else, which, in mind, im thinking of laundry biz. But im not sure if that would be a good idea to invest that amount on that biz, OR, maybe u have some other ideas which i could consider. huhu.. really need some refreshing ideas sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Hi Sammich.

The cost i wouldnt mind considering between rm50k to rm100k, again depending on what sort of biz. I have invested in a cafe, and its still operating. But, i would want to try to do something else, which, in mind, im thinking of laundry biz. But im not sure if that would be a good idea to invest that amount on that biz, OR, maybe u have some other ideas which i could consider. huhu.. really need some refreshing ideas sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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where your café? Im from penang island and can drop by just to support and check out thumbup.gif
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where your café? Im from penang island and can drop by just to support and check out thumbup.gif
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My partner moved it to Simpang 4. When i operated it, it was at Bertam.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sri-Kulai-RT...f_type=bookmark

Now they decided to moved to Simpang 4, as they joined with Damiral Bread. Im looking for some biz, around the mainland if can.

Oh ya, anybody who needs to use any radio communication system, pleaseee do not hesitate to contact me. cool2.gif
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My partner moved it to Simpang 4. When i operated it, it was at Bertam.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sri-Kulai-RT...f_type=bookmark

Now they decided to moved to Simpang 4, as they joined with Damiral Bread. Im looking for some biz, around the mainland if can.

Oh ya, anybody who needs to use any radio communication system, pleaseee do not hesitate to contact me.  cool2.gif
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bro do u wan to JV for my futsal biz?me n my partner r looking for another biz partner cum investor...if u r interested can pm me..

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bro do u wan to JV for my futsal biz?looking for biz partner cum investor...if u r interested can pm me..
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Hi Yamasce.

Sorry but im still very new to this lowyat forum. How do u PM? I do not know anything about futsal biz. But what i heard, it has high maintenance right? Depending on the what sort of flooring you intend to use. Where do u intend to open your futsal biz?
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Hi Yamasce.

Sorry but im still very new to this lowyat forum. How do u PM? I do not know anything about futsal biz. But what i heard, it has high maintenance right? Depending on the what sort of flooring you intend to use. Where do u intend to open your futsal biz?
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lol u c my avatar there got PM button..click tat and u can send message to me

im targetting places like prai, seberang jaya and permatang pauh..those area r near to industrial zone, residential, higher learning institutions and gov offices...maintenance wise mainly on the utility n rental onli..the on the turf itself nothing much 2 do..i plan to use non-infill artificial grass..no need maintenance

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QUOTE(ChocoVaniella @ Aug 12 2014, 10:30 AM)
My partner moved it to Simpang 4. When i operated it, it was at Bertam.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sri-Kulai-RT...f_type=bookmark

Now they decided to moved to Simpang 4, as they joined with Damiral Bread. Im looking for some biz, around the mainland if can.

Oh ya, anybody who needs to use any radio communication system, pleaseee do not hesitate to contact me.  cool2.gif
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Hi Choco,

Bakery is good business thumbup.gif

What do u mean by radio communication system? R u selling it or giving it away or something?
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Hi Choco,

Bakery is good business thumbup.gif

What do u mean by radio communication system? R u selling it or giving it away or something?
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Yeah.. Bakery ha..nice... what is the best bakery franchise that most of u guys favor?

U know walkie talkie, right.. Haha. not giving it away, but im doing that as well. We provide communication via trunking system. Meaning, if ur using walkie talkie and u want to communicate from Perlis dwn to Taiping, its not a problem at all, as our system will be linked to the repeater out there. Or, if say anyone here who have hotels, or shopping mall, we do supply the radio communication for them, but installing their own private repeater system. So, yeah.. jst a summary la, we provide equipments, installation and servicing to ease communication using radio. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ChocoVaniella @ Aug 12 2014, 10:49 AM)
Yeah.. Bakery ha..nice... what is the best bakery franchise that most of u guys favor?

U know walkie talkie, right.. Haha. not giving it away, but im doing that as well. We provide communication via trunking system. Meaning, if ur using walkie talkie and u want to communicate from Perlis dwn to Taiping, its not a problem at all, as our system will be linked to the repeater out there. Or, if say anyone here who have hotels, or shopping mall, we do supply the radio communication for them, but installing their own private repeater system. So, yeah.. jst a summary la, we provide equipments, installation and servicing to ease communication using radio.  biggrin.gif
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Do u provide the restaurant beep device? In japan is use a lot. Malaysia recently only start use. Is like customer order something then u give them a small box thing. When their food done then it will beep and they come and collect
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Do u provide the restaurant beep device? In japan is use a lot. Malaysia recently only start use. Is like customer order something then u give them a small box thing. When their food done then it will beep and they come and collect
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No. Beep device? I never seen it before. Which restaurant is using that for now, here in penang? Maybe i can go n curi curi tengok icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ChocoVaniella @ Aug 12 2014, 10:56 AM)
No. Beep device? I never seen it before. Which restaurant is using that for now, here in penang? Maybe i can go n curi curi tengok icon_idea.gif
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the last time I seen is in Gurney Plaza some kind of desert shop. Other than that not seen much.
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the last time I seen is in Gurney Plaza some kind of desert shop. Other than that not seen much.
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owhh ok ok.. tq so much Sammich..
I will consider about the bakery biz. something to think about right? icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif
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owhh ok ok.. tq so much Sammich..
I will consider about the bakery biz. something to think about right?  icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif
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NO LA! haha

I mean im ask u your current biz is bakery is it cos u say make bread. haha

Im not say ask u make bakery
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had that Customer device in Publika food court if i remember.. or was it in SG. convenient.
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anyone here provide wholesales for bluray movies here ? or know where can i find local supplier for original blu ray movies?
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NO LA! haha

I mean im ask u your current biz is bakery is it cos u say make bread. haha

Im not say ask u make bakery
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No no, when i was running the cafe, i did not do any bakery products... Only when my partner join with me, they decided to add ons...lol..


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bakery product usually how much is the capital needed to open a small business ? anyone have experience in bakery? anyone in here who make bakery business at home and provide their bakery to other people shop? usually if do this kind of business how much of profit we need to allocate for 1pcs of product?
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bakery product usually how much is the capital needed to open a small business ? anyone have experience in bakery? anyone in here who make bakery business at home and provide their bakery to other people shop? usually if do this kind of business how much of profit we need to allocate for 1pcs of product?
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a lot of profit lo sell bread. But important is u need haf the skill to make bread. And invrstment mstly go to your oven and other bread machine.

manpower also important cos u cant make many bread alone
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anyone here provide wholesales for bluray movies here ? or know where can i find local supplier for original blu ray movies?
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I heard people discussing about it here in LYN that even Speedy, our so called official "original" movie/music seller isn't selling original stuffs.

So dunno whether can find them in Malaysia or not.
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I heard people discussing about it here in LYN that even Speedy, our so called official "original" movie/music seller isn't selling original stuffs.

So dunno whether can find them in Malaysia or not.
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seriously shocking.gif shocking.gif that means no original for local BD blink.gif blink.gif
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seriously  shocking.gif  shocking.gif that means no original for local BD  blink.gif  blink.gif
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I can't remember which sub forum I read it from already, maybe Movies & Music or Anime Shrine. I visits too many sub forum already lol.

But yea, the TS bought original to show his/her support towards the artist. But when unpacked & found out that it's non original, raged lo.
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Hi guys.... Am planning to start a business selling wholesale hair & beauty products. Understand that there is already a lot of competitors already in the marker (PCQ, Magic Boo and etc). From a consumer point of view, apart from the pricing factor, any suggestions on how could I gain a better competitive advantage against this competitors?

Am planning to include delivery services and also additional in-house chemical services (rebonding/color) with the products that they have bought from my shop for a certain fee. Would this be workable as am toying on the idea of a hybrid of a hair salon and wholesaler.
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Hi I have just started a new business using a mobile money app to sell digital products such as mobile reloads for locals and foreign telcos. The app is called 365M-Shop and is very user friendly and commission is paid instantaneously. All that is needed is a android mobile phone with a data package.

I think mobile is the future and this is great way to start a business with small initial capital or supplement existing retail business.


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do anyone of you open a Pawn Shop business before? If so, may I know roughly the details on how much capital needed for the start up. Do you need heavy capital or medium capital enough?

Also, can this business run in Malaysia as I haven seen much on the streets.

Thank you all in advance!
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Hi guys,

do anyone of you open a Pawn Shop business before? If so, may I know roughly the details on how much capital needed for the start up. Do you need heavy capital or medium capital enough?

Also, can this business run in Malaysia as I haven seen much on the streets.

Thank you all in advance!
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my friend as own a pawn shop,a medium capital is enough,if you need any other advice can let me know.
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Guys please comment my biz plan.

Massage & Cuping for Ladies Only

Objective:
To provide professional service for the ladies who looking for massage and cupping (bekam).

1) Cost
Start up RM4000 (1 -massage bed, cupping set, massage product curtain, air cond., small counter, tiles, large mirror, signboard and 1 sofa)
Marketing- RM300 (first month)
Rent - RM300x2 month
Licence - I dont have any idea... can i operate without licence? illegal can do their biz why legal massage cant?

2) Problem
Local worker try to steal customer and operate themself from house to house.
Foreign worker - to get permit
Part time foreign worker - risk with imigresen (bcoz the work have permit working as cleaner)
I have only 1 bed so i can higher 1 worker at one time. so my biz stop if the worker MIA.


3) Profit
RM100 per customer. (50% to worker 50% to shop)
Target customer 60person per month
Total income 60 customer x RM50 = RM3000

Monthly operating cost = rm300(rent) + rm300(utilities)
Profit = rm2400/month



I have few experience doing online business and looking forward to start physical business. Appreciate if you guys could give suggestion, comment and input. thanks in advance notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(mousepad87 @ Sep 7 2014, 12:00 PM)
Guys please comment my biz plan.

Massage & Cuping for Ladies Only

Objective:
To provide professional service for the ladies who looking for massage and cupping (bekam).

1) Cost
Start up RM4000 (1 -massage bed, cupping set, massage product  curtain, air cond., small counter, tiles, large mirror, signboard and 1 sofa)
Marketing- RM300 (first month)
Rent - RM300x2 month
Licence - I dont have any idea... can i operate without licence? illegal can do their biz why legal massage cant? 

2) Problem
Local worker try to steal customer and operate themself from house to house.
Foreign worker - to get permit
Part time foreign worker - risk with imigresen (bcoz the work have permit working as cleaner)
I have only 1 bed so i can higher 1 worker at one time. so my biz stop if the worker MIA.
3) Profit
RM100 per customer. (50% to worker 50% to shop)
Target customer 60person per month
Total income 60 customer x RM50 = RM3000

Monthly operating cost = rm300(rent) + rm300(utilities)
Profit = rm2400/month
I have few experience doing online business and looking forward to start physical business. Appreciate if you guys could give suggestion, comment and input. thanks in advance notworthy.gif
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So, what do you sell as in online biz ? hmm.gif
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So, what do you sell as in online biz ?  hmm.gif
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mainly gold jewelry...

http://www.merchant9.com/index.php?route=p..._type_pg=latest



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any good investing , business joint venture on small scale cafe/coffee house in Penang ? eyeing for next venture opportunity smile.gif
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You can find JV also in other biz forum like CG. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(mousepad87 @ Sep 7 2014, 02:46 PM)
Nice one. rclxms.gif You should focus more in Gold as the demand is high right now.

QUOTE
1) Cost
Start up RM4000 (1 -massage bed, cupping set, massage product  curtain, air cond., small counter, tiles, large mirror, signboard and 1 sofa)
Marketing- RM300 (first month)
Rent - RM300x2 month
Licence - I dont have any idea... can i operate without licence? illegal can do their biz why legal massage cant?

2) Problem
Local worker try to steal customer and operate themself from house to house.
Foreign worker - to get permit
Part time foreign worker - risk with imigresen (bcoz the work have permit working as cleaner)
I have only 1 bed so i can higher 1 worker at one time. so my biz stop if the worker MIA.
3) Profit
RM100 per customer. (50% to worker 50% to shop)
Target customer 60person per month
Total income 60 customer x RM50 = RM3000

Monthly operating cost = rm300(rent) + rm300(utilities)
Profit = rm2400/month


1) Cost
Start up RM4000 (1 -massage bed, cupping set, massage product curtain, air cond., small counter, tiles, large mirror, signboard and 1 sofa)
Marketing- RM300 (first month)
Rent - RM300x2 month
Licence - I dont have any idea... can i operate without licence? illegal can do their biz why legal massage cant?

Start Up :
2 Massage Bed ATLEAST !
2 Kangci 24 Pcs Cupping Set
For the license. Need to have one wor. Enterprise SSM. After that, need to ask license for shop also.

2) Problem
Local worker try to steal customer and operate themself from house to house.
Foreign worker - to get permit
Part time foreign worker - risk with imigresen (bcoz the work have permit working as cleaner)
I have only 1 bed so i can higher 1 worker at one time. so my biz stop if the worker MIA.

Problem
Well. You need to be there. And they need to give back cupping set after use.
If they try to operate themself. Must be wrong with your service. Maybe price or before and after service etc etc. Always try to improve, don't blame people for our fault.
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QUOTE(demolationz @ Sep 7 2014, 03:11 PM)
Nice one.  rclxms.gif  You should focus more in Gold as the demand is high right now.
1) Cost
Start up RM4000 (1 -massage bed, cupping set, massage product  curtain, air cond., small counter, tiles, large mirror, signboard and 1 sofa)
Marketing- RM300 (first month)
Rent - RM300x2 month
Licence - I dont have any idea... can i operate without licence? illegal can do their biz why legal massage cant?

Start Up :
2 Massage Bed ATLEAST !
2 Kangci 24 Pcs Cupping Set
For the license. Need to have one wor. Enterprise SSM. After that, need to ask license for shop also.

2) Problem
Local worker try to steal customer and operate themself from house to house.
Foreign worker - to get permit
Part time foreign worker - risk with imigresen (bcoz the work have permit working as cleaner)
I have only 1 bed so i can higher 1 worker at one time. so my biz stop if the worker MIA.

Problem
Well. You need to be there. And they need to give back cupping set after use.
If they try to operate themself. Must be wrong with your service. Maybe price or before and after service etc etc. Always try to improve, don't blame people for our fault.
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thanks... but gold biz the money cycle not so fast..further the margin not that high.... so need to find other biz to back me up..

currently 1 worker agreed with 50:50 rate.

im try to do fake advertising... about 10 people calling me past 2 week. can i rely on this feedback? or i need to wait more ?

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QUOTE(mousepad87 @ Sep 7 2014, 06:23 PM)
thanks... but gold biz the money cycle not so fast..further the margin not that high.... so need to find other biz to back me up..

currently 1 worker agreed with 50:50 rate.

im try to do fake advertising... about 10 people calling me past 2 week.  can i rely on this feedback? or i need to wait more ?
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Yes, can rely on that. Service must be tiptop.
What do I mean by that ?
Think out of the box. Different from other seller.

Maybe before, or after the cupping, giving herbal tea.
Or, some appreciation gift.
Tips : Making customer happy, will always bringing more people to come. icon_rolleyes.gif

About the gold. Maybe you need to find supplier which offer more low price. Just need to do more homeworks and research.
Well, every supplier have their own competitor right ?
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Hi guys, i've got 1 questions that i always wonder in my mind.
Is it possible to start a business while maintain my full time job in the same time? Is it very risky if i quit my full time job and start a business? Thanks in advance .
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Hi guys, i've got 1 questions that i always wonder in my mind.
Is it possible to start a business while maintain my full time job in the same time? Is it very risky if i quit my full time job and start a business? Thanks in advance .
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There will always be risk.

Do it only if you are confident enough.
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QUOTE(FreedomDream @ Sep 8 2014, 08:19 AM)
Hi guys, i've got 1 questions that i always wonder in my mind.
Is it possible to start a business while maintain my full time job in the same time? Is it very risky if i quit my full time job and start a business? Thanks in advance .
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Depends on what type of business you're into. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mousepad87 @ Sep 7 2014, 06:23 PM)
thanks... but gold biz the money cycle not so fast..further the margin not that high.... so need to find other biz to back me up..

currently 1 worker agreed with 50:50 rate.

im try to do fake advertising... about 10 people calling me past 2 week.  can i rely on this feedback? or i need to wait more ?
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hey bro hw did u do the fake advertising ?

mind to share ?

i want to hire workers too. but not sure source from where
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hi everyone..

this is my plan.

nature of business: selling stuff i fabricate myself to a niche emerging market.
startup capital: RM500, mainly purchase raw material, packaging, labor
medium of selling: friends, fb, instagram
profit: nett less than rm 200, around 30%

pro: not much competitor
cons: labor intensive as i need to do one by one.

method of selling: i try to market it batch by batch. this first batch around 20pcs. see hows the reaction and take it from there.

plan in future: maybe just to engage with the specialty shops, i just supply for them, no need to deal with customer directly. (i dont really have a way with people usually) introduce more variety and more product.

timeframe: one month getting ready, one month selling it all off.
so.. end of this month shall be my product launching.

hows my planning so far? btw right now still in brainstorming n paperwork process, and already placed order for the raw materials.
what else should i look into?

Thank you smile.gif
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hi everyone..

this is my plan.

nature of business: selling stuff i fabricate myself to a niche emerging market.
startup capital: RM500, mainly purchase raw material, packaging, labor
medium of selling: friends, fb, instagram
profit: nett less than rm 200, around 30%

pro: not much competitor
cons: labor intensive as i need to do one by one.

method of selling: i try to market it batch by batch. this first batch around 20pcs. see hows the reaction and take it from there.

plan in future: maybe just to engage with the specialty shops, i just supply for them, no need to deal with customer directly. (i dont really have a way with people usually) introduce more variety and more product.

timeframe: one month getting ready, one month selling it all off.
so.. end of this month shall be my product launching.

hows my planning so far? btw right now still in brainstorming n paperwork process, and already placed order for the raw materials.
what else should i look into?

Thank you smile.gif
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Are these etsy/artsy kind of stuff you're fabbing?

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u may say so, kind sir.
although it might not be as pretty as the artsy word might suggest.

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how many cafe house in Penang already?
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how many cafe house in Penang already?
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Ya, lately its alot, but not for the sake of rich making program but to startup some f&b related biz to fullfill dream smile.gif
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u may say so, kind sir.
although it might not be as pretty as the artsy word might suggest.
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What item is this? If you don't reveal, how can anyone advise or even know if it is in demand? To which target group? Etc...
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a lot of profit lo sell bread. But important is u need haf the skill to make bread. And invrstment mstly go to your oven and other bread machine.

manpower also important cos u cant make many bread alone
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Can share roughly how much is the profit per bread/bun? Then we can know how many buns to sell. I think ah, if make bread/buns, gotta be special sikit, otherwise cannot compete.
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Guys,any idea what offline business i can do with capital 10k? From sabah smile.gif
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Hello guys, i am Indonesian.
I have clothing production in Bandung, Indonesia.
I guess with easy access Bandung-KL i had the opportunity of doing business in Malaysia.
Anyone, any idea/information for me to start clothing business in Malaysia?
thx

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QUOTE(rezabakti @ Sep 14 2014, 11:58 AM)
Hello guys, i am Indonesian.
I have clothing production in Bandung, Indonesia.
I guess with easy access Bandung-KL i had the opportunity of doing business in Malaysia.
Anyone, any idea/information for me to start clothing business in Malaysia?
thx

you can contact me via
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Are you going to sell online ? Or through agent ? Or open physical shop ? hmm.gif
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Are you going to sell online ? Or through agent ? Or open physical shop ?  hmm.gif
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i prefer to sell online & through clothing store owner,
any idea bro? biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(rezabakti @ Sep 15 2014, 12:19 AM)
i prefer to sell online & through clothing store owner,
any idea bro?  biggrin.gif
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Yes. You can sell online. but mind how to postage the product from Indonesia. And postage cost too.
Or else, you can stockpile the shirt by hiring an agent in Malaysia So, can COD.

About the clothing store. Try Super Sunday. But, they sell independent cloth from diff small company.
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guys,

i have roughly 10k cash

thinking to run a business

not expecting big profit

just want some cash to flow on.

any advice?

anything will do. Had an online business of selling clone phones / phone accessories which running kinda well but hoping to do some better business
feel free to take a look www.facebook.com/cts202


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QUOTE(hujiko303 @ Sep 15 2014, 02:08 AM)
guys,

i have roughly 10k cash

thinking to run a business

not expecting big profit

just want some cash to flow on.

any advice?

anything will do. Had an online business of selling clone phones / phone accessories which running kinda well but hoping to do some better business
feel free to take a look www.facebook.com/cts202
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So, do you selling through Facebook Page only ? shocking.gif
You already know the clone phone market very well. Why need to change niche ?
Maybe the profit margin is low is it ? As from your words. Kinda well which is not very well. And wanted to do some better business which now biz is slow ? hmm.gif
Sorry if you feel offended.

Always ask yourself. What do you need to do to expand the biz. Always do homework.
What people want ? How to expand biz ? What can you do to make it succesfull.
I can give you ideas. People can give you ideas. But are you willing to learn ?


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QUOTE(demolationz @ Sep 15 2014, 05:20 AM)
So, do you selling through Facebook Page only ? shocking.gif
You already know the clone phone market very well. Why need to change niche ?
Maybe the profit margin is low is it ? As from your words. Kinda well which is not very well. And wanted to do some better business which now biz is slow ?  hmm.gif
Sorry if you feel offended.

Always ask yourself. What do you need to do to expand the biz. Always do homework.
What people want ? How to expand biz ? What can you do to make it succesfull.
I can give you ideas. People can give you ideas. But are you willing to learn ?
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to be honest, i'm not 18 yet i couldn't do much except for online.. but now i have bunch of cash that i think i should move forward..

selling clone phone is ok but doesn't mean i get to sell every month... its kinda difficult because i need to go to my supplier ( which need people's transport ) alot of things to hesitate but i earn alot each phone just slow.. not fast money..

the profit is more than 100% which is X2 of the phone i can get..

and also selling clone phones make me feel unsafe.. I don't follow market price, i always push my price higher because im a person who likes to ( fish a bigger fish ) i wait for big fish to eat i dont eat small.. earn RM30 ~80 each phone to me too less..

now i have some money and wanted to start some business... not sure how much will they need to start a small business

i've read the thread about laundry this and that but mostly i feel i can afford it but just i dont know how to start and where to start..

online selling stuff is a small side income and i'm going to be RedOne agent few days from now which i have a better way to sell it..

however, i want a physical shop maybe a bakery? but the procedure is the problem..

Yes seriously, I'm willing to learn.. you can check my lowyat background, i've been looking for business oppo to earn money..

i dont mind earn less as long as im learning something..

so neither getting my own shop or working for people i dont really mind if its working for people at least i can earn something before i start..

need more advice, thank you
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Was contemplating to take up the coin operated washing machine business. Startup cap approximately 300k (all in).

Will be using a local supplier that gets their appliances from Belgium if not mistaken.

Any suggestions?

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QUOTE(hujiko303 @ Sep 15 2014, 02:21 PM)
to be honest, i'm not 18 yet i couldn't do much except for online.. but now i have bunch of cash that i think i should move forward..

selling clone phone is ok but doesn't mean i get to sell every month... its kinda difficult because i need to go to my supplier ( which need people's transport ) alot of things to hesitate but i earn alot each phone just slow.. not fast money..

the profit is more than 100% which is X2 of the phone i can get..

and also selling clone phones make me feel unsafe.. I don't follow market price, i always push my price higher because im a person who likes to ( fish a bigger fish ) i wait for big fish to eat i dont eat small.. earn RM30 ~80 each phone to me too less..

now i have some money and wanted to start some business... not sure how much will they need to start a small business

i've read the thread about laundry this and that but mostly i feel i can afford it but just i dont know how to start and where to start..

online selling stuff is a small side income and i'm going to be RedOne agent few days from now which i have a better way to sell it..

however, i want a physical shop maybe a bakery? but the procedure is the problem..

Yes seriously, I'm willing to learn.. you can check my lowyat background, i've been looking for business oppo to earn money..

i dont mind earn less as long as im learning something..

so neither getting my own shop or working for people i dont really mind if its working for people at least i can earn something before i start..

need more advice, thank you
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You still don't answer my Q : do you selling through Facebook Page only ?

Okay. Lets start with Laundry shop. You need to do homework, like.
Do you have any competitiors around ?
Is it near workers hostel($$$$$$) or housing area($$). (This is major thing to review)
etc etc.

So, tell me. Which one is good ? Reaching customer whole Malaysia or just around the physical shop area only ? Which give more profit ? Which will cost more money ?

Maybe it will open your mind and think. I don't bias the online shop is better. But, have you ever think of niche that can be sell using both online and physical ? While you sitting alone in your shop, customer keep coming in through FB ? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(InvestThing @ Sep 15 2014, 04:45 PM)
Was contemplating to take up the coin operated washing machine business. Startup cap approximately 300k (all in).

Will be using a local supplier that gets their appliances from Belgium if not mistaken.

Any suggestions?
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Can do bro.
Check whether the shop is strategic enough ?
Area around the shop ? More bangla worker or housing area (have their own washer machine).
More to think. Need to do homework and survey bro.

Easy to use RM300K. But hard to gain RM300K.
So, If you still want to use it. Need to be hardworking and do some research 1st before invest.

p/s Always diversify. Don't put in one basket.
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QUOTE(demolationz @ Sep 15 2014, 04:53 PM)
You still don't answer my Q : do you selling through Facebook Page only ?

Okay. Lets start with Laundry shop. You need to do homework, like.
Do you have any competitiors around ?
Is it near workers hostel($$$$$$) or housing area($$). (This is major thing to review)
etc etc.

So, tell me. Which one is good ? Reaching customer whole Malaysia or just around the physical shop area only ? Which give more profit ? Which will cost more money ?

Maybe it will open your mind and think. I don't bias the online shop is better. But, have you ever think of niche that can be sell using both online and physical ? While you sitting alone in your shop, customer keep coming in through FB ?  whistling.gif
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yes for now im selling through FB page + promote in college market page as clone phones are not allow to sell in LYN.

about laundry its just a rough idea and in my area ( Serdang equine park ) i bet there are like 3 ~6 laundry shop which all those insert coin 24Hours..

its not a good idea to start it here. It's limited population in this area so no point..

reaching whole malaysia is of course need more money than a physical shop..

that's why im thinking if i can start a bakery shop maybe? but i need someone who skilled that can make the bread using recipe..

alot problems comes to my mind.. register Halal those also problem..

is there any investment that can do online? for now i just wana earn some pocket money at least better than nothing and doing something better than my friends those play games everyday and night.. wanna do something that is wise..

thank you..
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QUOTE(hujiko303 @ Sep 15 2014, 05:29 PM)
yes for now im selling through FB page + promote in college market page as clone phones are not allow to sell in LYN.

about laundry its just a rough idea and in my area ( Serdang equine park ) i bet there are like 3 ~6 laundry shop which all those insert coin 24Hours..

its not a good idea to start it here. It's limited population in this area so no point..

reaching whole malaysia is of course need more money than a physical shop..

that's why im thinking if i can start a bakery shop maybe? but i need someone who skilled that can make the bread using recipe..

alot problems comes to my mind.. register Halal those also problem..

is there any investment that can do online? for now i just wana earn some pocket money at least better than nothing and doing something better than my friends those play games everyday and night.. wanna do something that is wise..

thank you..
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Well, your customer approach towards customer rather wrong. hmm.gif
I can see your Fan Page bro.
Maybe I'll share you abit of my idea If you can PM me.

The way you advertise is not a professional one. Customers may have doubt. How to make it more interesting so people wanna buy ? rolleyes.gif
Lastly, how you gonna reach whole Malaysia without using a single cent ? blush.gif

And for me. If I have RM10K. I will Invest half of it. brows.gif
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i finding some shop to cooperate with us. 0 cost 0 risk 100% profit... food industry... ICE CREAM
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i really think in my head that, new youngsters and entrepreneurs should change their mindset in venturing "business".

Please guys, when u do business, first u should start to ask "what is your hobby", instead of "what to do with 10k capital", "what to do with my money", or even stupid question such as "what business can make 10k profit"
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QUOTE(demolationz @ Sep 15 2014, 04:58 PM)
Can do bro.
Check whether the shop is strategic enough ?
Area around the shop ? More bangla worker or housing area (have their own washer machine).
More to think. Need to do homework and survey bro.

Easy to use RM300K. But hard to gain RM300K.
So, If you still want to use it. Need to be hardworking and do some research 1st before invest.

p/s Always diversify. Don't put in one basket.
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sorry bro, i beg to differ on your opinion for the last statement.
diversify only for investment, for business it should be focus.
if u have rm300k, u might need to consider invest in multiple platform, such as rm100k in REIT, unit trust or maybe in shares or forex.
but if u have rm300k for business, u should put rm100k for capital, another rm100k for rolling and rm100k reserve for any contigency plan.
business use lots of cash. if u pump it in other business, your "diversify" business could have gone within a month.
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Sep 16 2014, 04:44 PM)
i really think in my head that, new youngsters and entrepreneurs should change their mindset in venturing "business".

Please guys, when u do business, first u should start to ask "what is your hobby", instead of "what to do with 10k capital", "what to do with my money", or even stupid question such as "what business can make 10k profit"
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Yes. Good point !
When we working on what we interest on. Won't feel bored at all. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(hujiko303 @ Sep 15 2014, 05:29 PM)
yes for now im selling through FB page + promote in college market page as clone phones are not allow to sell in LYN.

about laundry its just a rough idea and in my area ( Serdang equine park ) i bet there are like 3 ~6 laundry shop which all those insert coin 24Hours..

its not a good idea to start it here. It's limited population in this area so no point..

reaching whole malaysia is of course need more money than a physical shop..

that's why im thinking if i can start a bakery shop maybe? but i need someone who skilled that can make the bread using recipe..

alot problems comes to my mind.. register Halal those also problem..

is there any investment that can do online? for now i just wana earn some pocket money at least better than nothing and doing something better than my friends those play games everyday and night.. wanna do something that is wise..

thank you..
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bro,
u r as same as me during my study time.
u want investment or business?
whatever u do right now, can u know how much is your gain after so much capital u spent? is it more than 20%?
i dont mean your profit for one unit selling, i mean ALL of your expenses and capital u put.
Yes, u can get 100% profit from selling one phone, let say RM200 and then u sell RM400.
but how many stock u have in hand? if u have 10stock, but u only can sell 1 unit every month, your gain is actually less than 10%.

if your gain less than 10%, i would recommend u to put your cash in unit trust which u may gain 15-20% after 2-3 years.
still, its better than nothing.

anyway, u try to figure it out smile.gif its your financial account
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Sep 16 2014, 04:59 PM)
bro,
u r as same as me during my study time.
u want investment or business?
whatever u do right now, can u know how much is your gain after so much capital u spent? is it more than 20%?
i dont mean your profit for one unit selling, i mean ALL of your expenses and capital u put.
Yes, u can get 100% profit from selling one phone, let say RM200 and then u sell RM400.
but how many stock u have in hand? if u have 10stock, but u only can sell 1 unit every month, your gain is actually less than 10%.

if your gain less than 10%, i would recommend u to put your cash in unit trust which u may gain 15-20% after 2-3 years.
still, its better than nothing.

anyway, u try to figure it out smile.gif its your financial account
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i dont really keep stock in my hand.. cause whenever i want i only go take from my supplier.. im not rushing cash just wanna have some income..

normally people want only i go take then cod to them as i cannot turn cash into stock and keep waiting cause i need cash to flow in daily life..

i dont mind whether its an investment or a business both are okay to me as long as it can earn some money..

high risk or low risk also i dont mind as everyone say higher risk more earning... lower risk.. less earning both to me is totally fine..

just hoping i can push out some money to exchange with money and not keeping cash in bank.. really useless cause if money dont move there's no increase at all..
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QUOTE(hujiko303 @ Sep 16 2014, 05:14 PM)
i dont really keep stock in my hand.. cause whenever i want i only go take from my supplier.. im not rushing cash just wanna have some income..

normally people want only i go take then cod to them as i cannot turn cash into stock and keep waiting cause i need cash to flow in daily life..

i dont mind whether its an investment or a business both are okay to me as long as it can earn some money..

high risk or low risk also i dont mind as everyone say higher risk  more earning... lower risk.. less earning both to me is totally fine..

just hoping i can push out some money to exchange with money and not keeping cash in bank.. really useless cause if money dont move there's no increase at all..
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then i just assume u are one of the part time trader, commonly found in Lowyat Garage Sales, Facebook or Mudah.my?
u r just same as me when i was studied in college smile.gif

learning from my experience, i recommend u to put your money in investment first, since it no require high effort.
after u getting comfort with your commitment, then proceed with business.
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Sep 17 2014, 07:56 PM)
then i just assume u are one of the part time trader, commonly found in Lowyat Garage Sales, Facebook or Mudah.my?
u r just same as me when i was studied in college smile.gif

learning from my experience, i recommend u to put your money in investment first, since it no require high effort.
after u getting comfort with your commitment, then proceed with business.
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haha yeap... basically is only facebook because lyn dont allow selling clone phones but i do make a thread about phone accessories.. i've found that people's stock is more and nicer than me so i quited and continue in facebook and also face-to-face i put a table near some factory which have alot of workers.. tried once.. im 45 mins less i finish off my stock there... thinking to hit another time..

maybe i can have your contact number so ccan sometimes ask for your advice/opinion? its really glad that i can meet someone like you that willing to explain to me, hoping to keep up with u ^^
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QUOTE(rezabakti @ Sep 14 2014, 11:58 AM)
Hello guys, i am Indonesian.
I have clothing production in Bandung, Indonesia.
I guess with easy access Bandung-KL i had the opportunity of doing business in Malaysia.
Anyone, any idea/information for me to start clothing business in Malaysia?
thx

you can contact me via
FB : https://www.facebook.com/reza.bakti
WhatsApp : +62 8789 308 2077
Line ID : resbak
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do you sell plain shirt?
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Hi business owners, i find this thread very insightful.

a bit about myself.

I am an Internet business owner and affiliate marketer. I have been doing affiliate marketing for some time now currently its going well for me. if you guys need any advise on how to start internet marketing or making money online, i might be able to share a couple of stuff..


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Plain shirt locally much cheaper bro. You mean the 4square alike right ? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(badassbiz82 @ Sep 18 2014, 02:43 PM)
Hi business owners, i find this thread very insightful.

a bit about myself.

I am an Internet business owner and affiliate marketer.  I have been doing affiliate marketing for some time now currently its going well for me.  if you guys need any advise on how to start internet marketing or making money online, i might be able to share a couple of stuff..
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PM me bos. Would like to learn more and sharpen my skill. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(badassbiz82 @ Sep 18 2014, 02:43 PM)
Hi business owners, i find this thread very insightful.

a bit about myself.

I am an Internet business owner and affiliate marketer.  I have been doing affiliate marketing for some time now currently its going well for me.  if you guys need any advise on how to start internet marketing or making money online, i might be able to share a couple of stuff..
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Yeah PM me
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Anyone want to buy or Sell your stuff online?
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Hi all, let say I have a product and I want to distribute it, is there any distribution company that can distribute the product for me? Or it is better for me to distribute the product myself?
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hi guys

im interested to know around how much is the profit margin of running a pub/bar at malaysia. any idea?

got some idea in mind and wish to know approx. startup capital needed for a pub/bar, let say places like scott garden.
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hi guys

im interested to know around how much is the profit margin of running a pub/bar at malaysia. any idea?

got some idea in mind and wish to know approx. startup capital needed for a pub/bar, let say places like scott garden.
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b4 tat..do u hv any connections tat can back u up to ensure ur biz run smoothly or not?by connections i mean underworld n police
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b4 tat..do u hv any connections tat can back u up to ensure ur biz run smoothly or not?by connections i mean underworld n police
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hmm my partner know some "bosses" so it should able to settle, run smoothly n get the alcohol license brows.gif

but the idea is just in our mind, nth had started i hope able to get some info like startup cost, profit margin etc from here


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Hi all, let say I have a product and I want to distribute it, is there any distribution company that can distribute the product for me? Or it is better for me to distribute the product myself?
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Depends what product.
Can hand in paper work to the particular company. If the bos like your product which can make people come to his shop, ofcourse he will give green light.
Win-Win situation lor. thumbup.gif
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PM me bos. Would like to learn more and sharpen my skill.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yeah PM me
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if you want to know a little on how i started, you can read about it in my blog here

i'm coming out with a product which will guide you from A to Z on how to make money online.
it will be out in a month or two smile.gif
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Anyone know what is the monthly income for a bakery shop with few snacks tables and chairs for customers to dine in during tea time and selling bread, cakes, drinks etc almost like a Kings Confectionery shops ???

Any rough monthly earnings ?
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Hey guys, thanks for the interest.  But i would prefer sharing it with the public.
if you want to know a little on how i started, you can read about it in my blog here

i'm coming out with a product which will guide you from A to Z on how to make money online.
it will be out in a month or two smile.gif
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Dear all the SME boss and business owner,
How you guys handled emotionally when missed a good opportunity in business?

Yes, we quite often heard words like" Life move on" , " God's will" , " what's has been passed, its history, move on to the next opportunity , "learn from it and dont repeat it " etc etc

But deep into the heart, we know that we are regret cz missed the golden boat in front of our eyes. So, would like to know how you guys handle these situations?

Thanks
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Sep 24 2014, 11:10 AM)
Dear all the SME boss and business owner,
How you guys handled emotionally when missed a good opportunity in business?

Yes, we quite often heard words like" Life move on" , " God's will" , " what's has been passed, its history, move on to the next opportunity , "learn from it and dont repeat it " etc etc

But deep into the heart, we know that we are regret cz missed the golden boat in front of our eyes. So, would like to know how you guys handle these situations?

Thanks
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There are two thoughts for you:

1. If you do really want that opportunity, put much more effort to create another opportunity for yourself.

2. Or, that opportunity does not belong to you, why feel upset for it?

Hope this helps nod.gif
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QUOTE(SunofaBeach @ Sep 24 2014, 11:18 AM)
There are two thoughts for you:

1. If you do really want that opportunity, put much more effort to create another opportunity for yourself.

2. Or, that opportunity does not belong to you, why feel upset for it?

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Thanks.

how the missed opportunity are caused by ourselves? Eg: Oversleep, forget, overlooked , busy with other things etc etc.
I know self blaming doesnt help, but its really pain in the ..... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Sep 24 2014, 11:10 AM)
Dear all the SME boss and business owner,
How you guys handled emotionally when missed a good opportunity in business?

Yes, we quite often heard words like" Life move on" , " God's will" , " what's has been passed, its history, move on to the next opportunity , "learn from it and dont repeat it " etc etc

But deep into the heart, we know that we are regret cz missed the golden boat in front of our eyes. So, would like to know how you guys handle these situations?

Thanks
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Hey there I'm new in this thread but found this interesting regarding SME business discussions so thought I'd drop by.

Missing good opportunities in business is probably the best thing that could happen (depending how you take it) if you are a start up or in early part of your business.

From these "missed" opportunities, I think we can really learn how things can/could have been done differently to turn the miss into a hit. Without having these "missed" chances, we would never know what we are doing wrong or how we could have done things better. If you take this situation and prepare yourself for the future I'm sure another opportunity would come and you'd be ready to make a "hit".

Unfortunately alot of us just take it as a "what if" or "could have" situation and fall into the same trap over and over again and never progress from there.

But thats just my 2 cents smile.gif

I'm working in a SME-OEM contract manufacturing company for personal care and oral care products and I've seen many brand owners whom faced "missed" opportunities and just give up and never got back up. I've also seen some whom turned the "missed" opportunity into a hit and close the deal later even after being rejected. So i guess it's all up to the individual. Sometimes the "missed" opportunity could be a delayed opportunity for when you're ready smile.gif icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Sep 24 2014, 03:10 AM)
Dear all the SME boss and business owner,
How you guys handled emotionally when missed a good opportunity in business?

Yes, we quite often heard words like" Life move on" , " God's will" , " what's has been passed, its history, move on to the next opportunity , "learn from it and dont repeat it " etc etc

But deep into the heart, we know that we are regret cz missed the golden boat in front of our eyes. So, would like to know how you guys handle these situations?

Thanks
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Sep 24 2014, 11:10 AM)
Dear all the SME boss and business owner,
How you guys handled emotionally when missed a good opportunity in business?

Yes, we quite often heard words like" Life move on" , " God's will" , " what's has been passed, its history, move on to the next opportunity , "learn from it and dont repeat it " etc etc

But deep into the heart, we know that we are regret cz missed the golden boat in front of our eyes. So, would like to know how you guys handle these situations?

Thanks
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Yes, there will be missed opportunities in life. but we missed it because of the decision we made not to pursue it.

taking responsibility for your success or failures is number 1 of successful business people.

so next time when an opportunity comes along, calculate the estimated ROI against the risk, and make your investments wisely.
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QUOTE(takalimc @ Sep 24 2014, 01:06 PM)
I'm working in a SME-OEM contract manufacturing company for personal care and oral care products and I've seen many brand owners whom faced "missed" opportunities and just give up and never got back up. I've also seen some whom turned the "missed" opportunity into a hit and close the deal later even after being rejected. So i guess it's all up to the individual. Sometimes the "missed" opportunity could be a delayed opportunity for when you're ready smile.gif icon_idea.gif
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This is due to a hard hit on the face.
Thats the reason I would like to know how you guys handled it emotionally so we wont fall into the same trap a.k.a repeating same mistakes again.

all in all, we are human.. and its always easier to say than done.

Anyone can share real life experience here =)) rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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This is due to a hard hit on the face.
Thats the reason I would like to know how you guys handled it emotionally so we wont fall into the same trap a.k.a repeating same mistakes again.

all in all, we are human.. and its always easier to say than done.

Anyone can share real life experience here =))  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Emotionally we usually feel like shit and all but one thing I learnt, dont keep everything in and try to man up by yourself. Share the issue with someone older/more experience in the business world. Their advice really means the world because they have most likely been through the same or worst things through their time in business. Their experience really counts when they are counselling you.


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Emotionally we usually feel like shit and all but one thing I learnt, dont keep everything in and try to man up by yourself. Share the issue with someone older/more experience in the business world. Their advice really means the world because they have most likely been through the same or worst things through their time in business. Their experience really counts when they are counselling you.
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Hey guys, if you people are interested in Internet marketing, i have created an eBook that I will give out for FREE.

Before you start your online business, this is a MUST READ.

Just go to my website page HERE and claim your ebook.

Any comments I would love to hear them.

Thanks!
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Hey guys, if you people are interested in Internet marketing, i have created an eBook that I will give out for FREE.

Before you start your online business, this is a MUST READ.

Just go to my website page HERE and claim your ebook. 

Any comments I would love to hear them.

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Sep 24 2014, 04:06 PM)
This is due to a hard hit on the face.
Thats the reason I would like to know how you guys handled it emotionally so we wont fall into the same trap a.k.a repeating same mistakes again.

all in all, we are human.. and its always easier to say than done.

Anyone can share real life experience here =))  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Well, I do agree with you as we are human and we have emotion as well. Learn from the past mistake and make sure don't repeat the same things again in the future.

As a entrepreneur, we must learn how to solve problem and deal with the problem, just like the song, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Your life no matter you won something or lost something doesn't mean that is your fate or destination, life is a journey that full of challenge, enjoy it and be part of it.

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Lies, i do not get the free book...
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It's a fake site, designed to harvest your email address. So that they can spam you later.

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Lies, i do not get the free book...
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QUOTE(dkk @ Sep 26 2014, 11:28 PM)
It's a fake site, designed to harvest your email address. So that they can spam you later.
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it is clear that you are quite new to internet marketing.
please do not spread any lies about stuff that you are not familiar with.
maybe if you would read my book, i might be able to provide you with some insights smile.gif
thanks.

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once you have subscribed, you will receive your ebook link in an email after you have activated your subscription.
if you did not, please email me and provide me with a screen shot.
it is clear that you are quite new to internet marketing. 
please do not spread any lies about stuff that you are not familiar with.
maybe if you would read my book, i might be able to provide you with some insights smile.gif
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My experience was like the previous guys. Registered. Activated. Got nothing. Maybe I'll try again later to day since you're so nice to explain it again.

The other reason I isaid fake was because your post said YOU made the ebook. When we go to that site, it looked like somebody else's book, and you just posted a link. Do you mean YOU are the one who created that convoluted way to harvest email addresses before they can get the ebook?
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My experience was like the previous guys. Registered. Activated. Got nothing. Maybe I'll try again later to day since you're so nice to explain it again.

The other reason I isaid fake was because your post said YOU made the ebook. When we go to that site, it looked like somebody else's book, and you just posted a link. Do you mean YOU are the one who created that convoluted way to harvest email addresses before they can get the ebook?
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once you click in the link. they already make $$$. free ebook or not they dont care they just want network traffic = more click= more $$$ .
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OK. I see it now. The problem is that the way you created the system, it works in a non-intuitive way that confuses stupid people like me.

1. we go to the website, it asks us to enter a name and email address to subscribe to some mailing lists.

What if we don't want our email address to fill up with this mailing list we don't want. The book isn't really free, if we have to give up our email address, be forced to receive marketing email we don't want. The price is not money, but it isn't free.

Well, nevermind. we'll use a disposable emaili address. smile.gif The site's maker have taken care to blacklist some well know disposable email services, but they didn't catch them all. smile.gif

2. we then get an activation email. A button says "click here". We click on it. Our account gets activated. A button on screen says "continue to our website".

3. We click that. We get back to the original website. Were's the ebook?

4. We see that the same form appears, asking for name and email. We click that, it asks us to register again.

5. We click here, we click there. We see no ebook. People gives up then. You're pissing off people you're trying to attract.

6. Later, we notice that a second email came in a short while after the activation email. This second email contains the link to the actual ebook.

The link is here: http://www.internetmarketerguide.com/wp-co...ess-Mastery.pdf

BTW: the ebook says "Copyright © 2014 Copyblogger Media, LLC". Are you the owner of Copyblogger Media LLC? You're Brian Clark? Picture here user posted image
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once you  click in the link. they already make $$$. free ebook or not they dont care they just want network traffic = more click= more $$$ .
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No need click here or there. Direct link on my post above #459.
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OK. I see it now. The problem is that the way you created the system, it works in a non-intuitive way that confuses stupid people like me.

1. we go to the website, it asks us to enter a name and email address to subscribe to some mailing lists.

What if we don't want our email address to fill up with this mailing list we don't want. The book isn't really free, if we have to give up our email address, be forced to receive marketing email we don't want. The price is not money, but it isn't free.

Well, nevermind. we'll use a disposable emaili address. smile.gif The site's maker have taken care to blacklist some well know disposable email services, but they didn't catch them all. smile.gif

JK: In this industry, we call this list building. please read it up more in this great article by social triggers.

2. we then get an activation email. A button says "click here". We click on it. Our account gets activated. A button on screen says "continue to our website".

3. We click that. We get back to the original website. Were's the ebook?

4. We see that the same form appears, asking for name and email. We click that, it asks us to register again.

5. We click here, we click there. We see no ebook. People gives up then. You're pissing off people you're trying to attract.

JK: it is explained that you will get your ebook in a link in your email.

6. Later, we notice that a second email came in a short while after the activation email. This second email contains the link to the actual ebook.

The link is here: http://www.internetmarketerguide.com/wp-co...ess-Mastery.pdf

JK: Appreciate if you don't share the link out. thank you. if you are not interested, maybe someone else will be.

BTW: the ebook says "Copyright © 2014 Copyblogger Media, LLC". Are you the owner of Copyblogger Media LLC? You're Brian Clark? Picture here user posted image
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JK: Template was referenced by copyblogger even though writer is myself. 
I will get this changed, and thanks for pointing that out.
Hope this answers your questions in some way smile.gif

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once you  click in the link. they already make $$$. free ebook or not they dont care they just want network traffic = more click= more $$$ .
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Sorry but you are very wrong about this.
Traffic with no conversion is the same as no $$$
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My experience was like the previous guys. Registered. Activated. Got nothing. Maybe I'll try again later to day since you're so nice to explain it again.

The other reason I isaid fake was because your post said YOU made the ebook. When we go to that site, it looked like somebody else's book, and you just posted a link. Do you mean YOU are the one who created that convoluted way to harvest email addresses before they can get the ebook?
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Really flattered that you think someone else made that ebook.
I am the author of that book and that will be a crash course on how to set up an online business.
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I am starting an online business in Malaysia

The website has been built by my colleague and ready to launch in October 2014.

www.relaxlah.my

I welcome anyone's comment and advice.

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I am starting an online business in Malaysia

The website has been built by my colleague and ready to launch in October 2014.

www.relaxlah.my

I welcome anyone's comment and advice.
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i like it and looking forward for the launch

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I am starting an online business in Malaysia

The website has been built by my colleague and ready to launch in October 2014.

www.relaxlah.my

I welcome anyone's comment and advice.
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The website looks nice and professionally done. Didn't examine it in detail. That's the first impression. Best of luck in your new venture.

The ebook distribution site OTOH, look terrible. Like those get-rich-quick scam sites created by somebody in 10 minutes.
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www.relaxlah.my

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Looks great and layout seems well organised.
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I am starting an online business in Malaysia

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nice site. though arn't you worried that there are way too much e-commerce sites?
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The website looks nice and professionally done. Didn't examine it in detail. That's the first impression. Best of luck in your new venture.

The ebook distribution site OTOH, look terrible. Like those get-rich-quick scam sites created by somebody in 10 minutes.
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Looks great and layout seems well organised.
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nice site. though arn't you worried that there are way too much e-commerce sites?
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Thank you very much guys, now I feel more confident.

Yes, I did worry that there are too many competition, but after some thoughts, we decided that we have to do it still. Our e-commerce market is dominated by foreign companies, I really believe we, Malaysians, can do it better.

We are looking for more vendors to join us, if any of you bosses here are interested, we do not charge any listing fee or closing fee. It's free to sell if you want to list your products in our platform rclxms.gif rclxms.gif . But if you want special design and all, theres a fee for that. Other than that, I can say we are the best place to try out e-commerce at no cost. smile.gif

http://www.relaxlah.my/pages/partnership

You can sign up for interest here smile.gif

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We have drafted our launching campaign and posted them on our blog and facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/relaxlah.my

http://www.relaxlah.my/blogs/news/16884531...-launching-soon

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This is the first banner. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

After months of preparation, we are proud to announce that we are ready to launch. I would like to thank the team and everyone else that has been working very closely to realise our dream for a better Malaysia...

We invite you to follow us, so that we can update you with our launching offers smile.gif

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We have drafted our launching campaign and posted them on our blog and facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Relaxlahmy/6...ster=ts&fref=ts

http://www.relaxlah.my/blogs/news/16884531...-launching-soon

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This is the first banner.  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

After months of preparation, we are proud to announce that we are ready to launch. I would like to thank the team and everyone else that has been working very closely to realise our dream for a better Malaysia...

We invite you to follow us, so that we can update you with our launching offers smile.gif
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charge how many % on sold products ?
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We take 0%
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Thank you very much guys, now I feel more confident.

Yes, I did worry that there are too many competition, but after some thoughts, we decided that we have to do it still. Our e-commerce market is dominated by foreign companies, I really believe we, Malaysians, can do it better.

We are looking for more vendors to join us, if any of you bosses here are interested, we do not charge any listing fee or closing fee. It's free to sell if you want to list your products in our platform  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif . But if you want special design and all, theres a fee for that. Other than that, I can say we are the best place to try out e-commerce at no cost. smile.gif

http://www.relaxlah.my/pages/partnership

You can sign up for interest here smile.gif
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Nice. having vision is the first step to success. All the best bro. nod.gif
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Thanks bro. We will keep it up. Feel free to comment on our shortcomings.
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what happens when items are paid thru gateway? wun u have to minus some % as gateway payment service do charge some % (2-4%) usually
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what happens when items are paid thru gateway? wun u have to minus some % as gateway payment service do charge some % (2-4%) usually
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yea, the bank will charge you somewhere around there that percentage. That is unavoidable i heard smile.gif

even normal shopping at store, customer checkout using credit card, semua pun ada charge

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what happens when items are paid thru gateway? wun u have to minus some % as gateway payment service do charge some % (2-4%) usually
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We do not charge you, but the party that charges you is the Bank. We are partnering with Alliance Bank and Singtel (Singapore) to offer you the best rate. And we are constantly fight for the best rate for our vendors.

Relaxlah.my

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Hi guys, i just took over a spa business. can check it out here www.firwellness.com.mywww.firwellness.com.my. It's a small business but have lots of potential. hopefully with some tweaks it will be even better.

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QUOTE(philyong @ Sep 29 2014, 06:42 PM)
Hi guys, i just took over a spa business. can check it out here www.firwellness.com.mywww.firwellness.com.my. It's a small business but have lots of potential. hopefully with some tweaks it will be even better.
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My girlfriend (soon to be wife) has a dream to open a pastry and bakery shop. However, she doesn't have any experience or any knowledge of it. Plan to fulfill her dream with our savings by renting or buying a lot in few years time (location not important yet). This will be our sideline business since business has better security than just working as employee until retire. Profitable or not is not the point, is about fulfilling her dream and have a steady and stable life with this business.

So my question is, is it better for her to learn by joining a pastry /bakery shop or to take diploma/degree to study it. I'm not sure about this industry whether is it worth to pour some money to study than learning it through real-life job right away.

Another question is, how much would it take to start this business? What kind of things I should take note?

Thanks alot smile.gif
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post Oct 11 2014, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ Oct 11 2014, 07:05 PM)
My girlfriend (soon to be wife) has a dream to open a pastry and bakery shop. However, she doesn't have any experience or any knowledge of it. Plan to fulfill her dream with our savings by renting or buying a lot in few years time (location not important yet). This will be our sideline business since business has better security than just working as employee until retire. Profitable or not is not the point, is about fulfilling her dream and have a steady and stable life with this business.

So my question is, is it better for her to learn by joining a pastry /bakery shop or to take diploma/degree to study it. I'm not sure about this industry whether is it worth to pour some money to study than learning it through real-life job right away.

Another question is, how much would it take to start this business? What kind of things I should take note?

Thanks alot smile.gif
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Cook ownself sell online


Cookies and cakes ,
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Cook ownself sell online
Cookies and cakes ,
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I think she would rather to have physical shop to sell them lol. But of course, that's a good idea before starting big to get some response from the people.

Thanks anyway smile.gif
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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ Oct 11 2014, 07:17 PM)
I think she would rather to have physical shop to sell them lol. But of course, that's a good idea before starting big to get some response from the people.

Thanks anyway smile.gif
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Why not try selling online?
u open physical shop ( invest )

Then end up the things that u coook not nice / no review / nobody knws

Or simply cook for fun and give out to frens / family ask them test.
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QUOTE(thenoobone @ Oct 11 2014, 06:46 PM)
Abang got hankypanky or not ? r  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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We are a fully licensed family spa. So I hope you respect and watch your words before you speak.
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QUOTE(philyong @ Oct 12 2014, 12:42 PM)
We are a fully licensed family spa. So I hope you respect and watch your words before you speak.
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ok

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Anyone can give any idea of salary structure for workers working at retail shop in shopping center like those shop selling shoes, sports item, clothing, boutique etc ???


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Anyone can give any idea of salary structure for workers working at retail shop in shopping center like those shop selling shoes, sports item, clothing, boutique etc ???
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For normal retail promoter should be:
basic salary rm900 (outskirt according to governmnet minium wage), rm1000~1200 in KL
commision 1~3%

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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ Oct 11 2014, 07:17 PM)
I think she would rather to have physical shop to sell them lol. But of course, that's a good idea before starting big to get some response from the people.

Thanks anyway smile.gif
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ya get response from ppl but dun sell online..

who the hell will order pastry online and wait u odeliver few days later? Going through the wrong way will only brrak your wife confidence.

Maybe try bake and give to kolik for free and get their feedback. Or can sell pasar malam.

Depends wat kind of bakery she want to do. If simple stuff probably not much. Investment mostly will be on the kitchen equipment like oven and stuff
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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Oct 16 2014, 09:50 PM)
ya get response from ppl but dun sell online..

who the hell will order pastry online and wait u odeliver few days later? Going through the wrong way will only brrak your wife confidence.

Maybe try bake and give to kolik for free and get their feedback. Or can sell pasar malam.

Depends wat kind of bakery she want to do. If simple stuff probably not much. Investment mostly will be on the kitchen equipment like oven and stuff
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How u know people dont order bakery via online?
ONLINE MUST BE POSTAGE?
CAN MEET ON SPOT AND COLLECT?

Why so sceptical ? You open shop but then failed = learning lesson ?
So ezy is it life , not all gifted or have enuf money to start up shop , online is good base.

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QUOTE(Sammich! @ Oct 16 2014, 09:50 PM)
ya get response from ppl but dun sell online..

who the hell will order pastry online and wait u odeliver few days later? Going through the wrong way will only brrak your wife confidence.

Maybe try bake and give to kolik for free and get their feedback. Or can sell pasar malam.

Depends wat kind of bakery she want to do. If simple stuff probably not much. Investment mostly will be on the kitchen equipment like oven and stuff
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Not sure if you've done your homework or pick a logic on top of your head randomly but this is common practice. Some sought after bakery does take order online and deliver it few days or weeks later. Take kuih raya business, for the popular ones, they have huge backorder.

My suggestion, maybe can sell a "dried" pastry and package it right with good designed boxes and labels. Other than selling them online, market it to convenience stores near your place and expand from there.
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QUOTE(thenoobone @ Oct 20 2014, 06:02 AM)
How u know people dont order bakery via online?
ONLINE MUST BE POSTAGE?
CAN MEET ON SPOT AND COLLECT?

Why so sceptical ? You open shop but then failed = learning lesson ?
So ezy is it life , not all gifted or have enuf money to start up shop , online is good base.
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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Oct 20 2014, 06:26 AM)
Not sure if you've done your homework or pick a logic on top of your head randomly but this is common practice. Some sought after bakery does take order online and deliver it few days or weeks later. Take kuih raya business, for the popular ones, they have huge backorder.

My suggestion, maybe can sell a "dried" pastry and package it right with good designed boxes and labels. Other than selling them online, market it to convenience stores near your place and expand from there.
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ookiez if u say so...

can u show me example of website successfully do this online bakery thing?
thnx
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Anyone making money online through advertistment here?
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My sister is thinking to place her homemade recipe drinks (something like soymilk,seaweed ,lemonade jelly ) for selling at restaurant/kopitiam .

Anyone from fnb field can give me some insights on how much they usually charge as commissions? She is targeting to sell 30 packets per day for the price of RM3 per cup.
My sis has no prior experience in fnb at all....



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I want to move to Ipoh to start a business and stay there but not sure what to do. Any sifus here in Ipoh looking for partner? Or staying in Ipoh, have a business plan and looking for partner? PM me and we can discuss further
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anyone has experience doing room rentals to foreigners on holiday using condos or apartments?
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Hi all,

I have been trying to look for business planning guidance in LYN and it seems not a lot were discussed.

I would like to share my part here.

I am planning to utilise my free time and skills providing services in writing business plan for any entrepreneur who is thinking to start a business but lack of confidence to hit the go button or strong business plan to support the business funding from their investors.

There are many keen people who wanted to have a go on their own business failed to even getting a start due to a long list of unknown areas and lack of capital. Many of them may not be qualified for getting loans or grants, so the next helper would be convincing people to invest in their business. In order to achieve that, there are a series of work to do from defining the actual business mission to preparing financial forecast, calculating ROI and risk as well as many aspects in setting up business.

At the outcome of my service, I hope to help my clients not only in better clarification of how his/her business could be rolled out, but also to achieve more confidence in inviting investors.

I started this only a few months ago and one of my best achievement was I have helped a small entrepreneur in writing his business plan who wanted to set up a small manufacturing plant but lack of capitals and not qualified for any loans. I am pleased that my help allowed him to successfully convinced a total of RM 700k funding from his friends and relatives which now enable him to set his foot on the path of his business idea. The great thing about this was he only paid me little fees for my time and effort, in return he earned a key to open his door which was my great pleasure.

For the pleasure of seeing a business idea take off successfully, I wish to continue giving such help to any growing seed. wink.gif


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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Oct 23 2014, 04:21 PM)
anyone has experience doing room rentals to foreigners on holiday using condos or apartments?
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I would like to share some of my experience.

During my time in the UK, such business is called B&B (Bed and breakfast). Many foreigners appreciate living the local life and eating the local specialties. I have been to both B&B and hotels which I would say some B&B did give a lot of good memories which you probably rare to feel from hotel stay.

Depends on location, can be a really profitable and meaningful business.

A friend of mine who started when he was a student, he rented out his spare rooms to tourists to UK and even the locals who travel around the country. The friend did not really do for living but he had accumulated a long list of feedback from his guests and now he does not need to pay his rent as all the spare rooms are often booked and he sometimes make extra pennies.

There are a lot of areas to consider in such business but if you are in suitable locations, it might be a worth try nod.gif
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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Oct 23 2014, 02:06 PM)
I want to move to Ipoh to start a business and stay there but not sure what to do. Any sifus here in Ipoh looking for partner? Or staying in Ipoh, have a business plan and looking for partner? PM me and we can discuss further
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Why Ipoh? Better market meh?
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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Oct 23 2014, 02:06 PM)
I want to move to Ipoh to start a business and stay there but not sure what to do. Any sifus here in Ipoh looking for partner? Or staying in Ipoh, have a business plan and looking for partner? PM me and we can discuss further
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Why Ipoh? Better market meh?
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QUOTE(Razer.Ken @ Oct 24 2014, 09:35 AM)
Why Ipoh? Better market meh?
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I just want to stay in Ipoh. Makes sense to start business there. If No business opportunity then better not move there

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