Those new at watches do read this 1st
http://www.watcharama.com/glossary.htm

Chronograph and affordable homages (Sub, Pammy, B&R) are big. try to name a few brands, will try my best to update this list

where to find those affordable homages
Sub Homage
- www.mkiiwatches.com
- www.orangewatchcompany.com
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- www.robert-uhren.de
- www.marcelloc-watches.com
- www.rxw.jp
- www.davosawatches.com
- http://www.msc-uhren.com/watches.htm

Sub homage similar to the original James Bond watch
- STEINHART "OCEAN 1 VINTAGE"
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/
- http://www.orangewatchcompany.com/milsub/index.php
- MK II Kingston

Pammy Homage
- www.zuriner.com
- Vollmer watch ( starts at ~1.4K @ watchseller.com )
- www.timefactors.com ( starts ~1.7rm )
- Aristo
- Dievas watch ( http://gnomonwatches.com/Dievas.html)
- www.rxw.jp (price ~1.6K)
- Kadloo (~1.2k on swiss unitas)
- www.drcustomwatch.com (mix of Swiss and Asian)
(Asian parts)
- Getat http://www.siswatch727.com/index.do
- Jackson Tse http://www.jacksontse.com/
- Davidsen ( davidsenjpn@yahoo.com ) - prices starts from rm$1K for Unitas 6497


Bell and Ross Homage
- Junkers
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- http://www.revue-thommen.ch/instrument.htm

many pilot fans here too
- www.stowa.com
- http://www.lacher-shop.de/e_shop/index.php
- www.archimede-uhren.de
- www.christopherward.co.uk
- Aristo (prices start ~1.5K)
- http://prometheuswatch.com/

IWC pilot homage
- Speedbird with soft iron core http://www.timefactors.com/speedbird.htm

diver watches
(online only)
- www.christopherward.co.uk
- guinand-watch.com
- http://www.ocean7watchco.com/
- Doxa
- www.mkiiwatches.com
- www.orangewatchcompany.com
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- www.robert-uhren.de
- www.uhr.info (~rm1k)
- http://halioswatches.com/watches/
- http://www.irreantumwatch.com/store/
- Marathon http://www.broadarrow.net/GSAR.htm
- Bernhardt http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/
- www.boschett-timepieces.com
- www.utswatches.com
- http://www.benaruswatches.com/
- http://www.helson-watches.com/
- http://prometheuswatch.com/
(in stores)
- Fortis
- Hamilton
- Oris
- Sinn
- Tag Heuer
- Longines
- etc

German watches that invested alot in case and movement tech
- Sinn
- http://www.damasko.de/eng/index.html

small size watches (case 33-38mm size)
- www.christopherward.co.uk (price starts at RM600)
- http://junior.frederique-constant.com/ (prices start at RM2.6K)
- http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/new_yorker.htm
- hamilton watch (Field mechanical size at 33mm) retail price ~rm1.1K
- Seiko Spirit Automatic (size 37mm)
- Titoni (many model range btw 33mm to 38mm) http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES/TitoniSalesTable.htm
- Stowa Antea Kleine Sekunde (35.5mm) or Stowa Antea 365 (36.5mm) prices with shipping ~rm$1.4K and up
- nomos club (36mm) retails ~rm4.5K to 5K or Nomos Ludwig (33mm) retails rm$5K and up
- http://www.jswatch.com/enska/urin.html
- http://www.rgmwatches.com/110As.html
- Maurice Lacroix http://www.mauricelacroix.com/#OUR%20CLASSICS
- http://www.archimede-uhren.de/EN/Pilot-S.htm (prices start at ~rm1.5k)
- http://www.autran-viala.de (prices start at ~rm1.4k)
- http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...=193&Itemid=432 (price at ~rm$1.8K)

great value Chrono watches
- www.uhr.info (rm$1.6k)
- http://www.genius1953.de/
- Guinand watch

Skeleton watches on swiss movement
- SWATCH under US$180
- http://www.steinhartwatches.de/ (limited edition)
- Oris Artelier Skeleton also US$1.5k an up
- Louis Erard 1931 collection usually usd$1.5K an up
- http://www.tourbywatches.com/ usually EUR$1.1K an up
- Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Skeleton (retailing US$5K an up)

Skeleton or open dial on Jap movement
- Orient watch ~US$350 (not really skeleton, just open dial)
- BULOVA ~US$250 and up (open dial)
- Invicta (some are using Chinese movement)

Skeleton or open dial on Chinese movement
- Invicta
- Armitron
- Kenneth Cole (mostly fashion brands)
- Seagull
- Alpha watch usually under US$100
- Theorema watch usually ~US$200
- TRIAS watch (some swiss movement model cost more, mostly Chinese)

Looking for Japanese Mechanical
- www.seiyajapan.com
- http://www.higuchi-inc.com/
- www.orientwatchusa.com

grey market (online)
- thewatchery.com ( I dealt with them b4)
- ashford.com ( I dealt with them b4)
- collectorstime.com

ver 7 liao,

Congrats on v7!

Saw this over the weekend. Monster watch, with an equally monster price tag...

some wrist shot to kick start v7!



my humble orient star

where u found this? and the price for this monster?

It was on display at the Hublot stand in the Ferrari paddock over the weekend's MMER events. It stood next to a Rose Gold Big Bang, and a Carbonfiber Big Bang... but the price was almost 5x of the combined value for both Big Bangs...

The Hublot looks like something Darth Vader would wear LOL. But I'm sure some Russian oligarch will buy it eventually.

The new rolex GMT MASTER 11

Rolex have replaced Hublot in F1

Sorry for bringing this to here, as the last thread was closed

I am surprised that Tag considered as yuppie choice ? I wonder is this coming from anti Tag advert or the watch actually isn't that prestige enough to categorized as higher end thus being labelled yuppie? I read Omega has rich history while Tag's like bought over the brand while using others to manufactured for them. I somehow quite like Tag Carrera's design haha... cheaper somemore at just around rm11k. you said it likes yuppie watch made me

Another one that I like is SeaMaster Diver 300mm 41... around the same price as Tag though.

i like the grand carrera design though..chronographs is not my cup of tea, which happens to be what tag's are always known for

selling fast in SG, RSP at SGD11,000 ++ [no discount]

Look at the advertisement I posted, doesn't that look yuppie to you? Higher end? Depends how high end. Tag Heuer is high end, just not as high as Rolex, and both are not as high as Patek Philippe. Heuer's history is mostly vested in motorsports back in the 60s, but that's Heuer, NOT TAG Heuer. I like the Tag Heuer Carrera, so I have one, the 41mm variant not the one with numbers. I am clearly aware of Tag's history, its pedigree and sadly how they spend their marketing dollars.

Brand wise, i would say Omega is more premium than Tag.

This?
http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/sea...-41-mm/22208000

That's Pierce Brosnon aka James Bond watch style. Of course in the movies they didn't have the Co-Axial movement yet. The current cal.2500 used is just heavily modified ETA movement. Still not "in-house" yet. Tag's carrera chrono has an advantage being "in-house" movement with their Calibre 1887, which is actually a Seiko movement (LOL).

My advice is to forget the brand placement, forget about its ambassadors and forget about what OTHER PEOPLE THINK, including myself. (LOL). Just put it on your wrist and see which one you love most, and buy it.

Frankly speaking, I would advise against buying a Tag Heuer UNLESS you love it on your own wrist. I do not feel its worth the asking price. HAHAHA, and laughably I own one.

EDIT: If you are looking for chronos, you MUST check out Zenith El Primero 1969. They have a smaller size, you might love it. That is the grand daddy of chronographs.

This post has been edited by Jason: Sep 3 2013, 06:24 PM

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Zenith El Primero 1969 certainly sweet, can't imagine the price tag. It seems like in the region of 20k+ if I used internet price as reference? Too much for a first timer, scared I couldn't take the heat too much.

This is the Seamaster that I meant. But I have a feeling it's an older design?

http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/sea.../21230425003001

How about this? Old design as well?

http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/spe.../32330404006001


You know watches so well yet you owned a Carrera really surprised me. This just prove that Tag Carrera has its unique that you got one yourself! I will be making trip to watch stores in the next few days, at the moment Tag Carrera calibre 16 date 41mm design really suit my wrist well. I haven't get the chance to try on Omega due to limited choices here in Melaka. I have to purposely make a trip to KL

The Zenith starts at RM18k after discount IIRC. Go check it out, no harm asking and trying it on your wrist.

Yes those Omega design been around for quite sometime. But frankly speaking, the real Omega chrono with heritage, pedigree and demands respect is the Speedmaster Professional, don't pass it up without seeing it in person.

Rolex designs are "old" design, considering its just a refresh of essentially the same design over the years. Very seldom for real watchmakers to introduce new designs like fashion label, cause its not.

There's usually a staple line that remains consistent with refreshes/updates to its designs, rather than a complete "new" thing

e.g. Tag Heuer you have Aquaracer, Carrera, Monaco etc.
Rolex you have Datejust, Submariner, GMT Master etc.
Omega you have Seamaster, Speedmaster, etc.

You get the idea.

Also, don't be constraint yourself with budget if you are not an avid collector. Just go balls out and wear it for life. My buddy went balls out and stretch his budget 10 years back to buy a Rolex, and he's still wearing the same piece today, and he's happy that his Rolex has significant value in the secondary market.

Just read these..

Hodinkee spreading Tudor Heritage Chrono Blue poison..
http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/a-week-on-the...age-chrono-blue

The watchsnob approves (sort of) Panerai
http://www.askmen.com/fashion/mens-watches...-challenge.html

ya i too wanted to go check it out.
but was sold within hours to another regular at one AD.
lazy to go around other AD see who got, most likely none also

Same here.. went to 2 Rolex/Tudor AD here. Both don't have.

Hi,

Does anyone know where I can get a replacement strap for my Omega Speedmaster Professional? I tried searching and non of the shops carry it. Also, the price range?

Thanks!

20mm straps is not exactly hard to find. Just search online.

anyone here has experience with this watch .....





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A review of Zixen Trimix here,
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.ph...ic,10147.0.html

thks Bro

haha thanks. I always enjoyed reading the watch snob

he actually posted before that 'review', and i agree about the malignant growth part
http://www.askmen.com/fashion/mens-watches...arge-hands.html

Mid Valley

Itch is coming again... but this time it's for a G-Shock. I haven't done much digging on RC watches... any idea about reception/calibration in KL? Or what kind of max distance from the station can be expected (example: would the German station be in range from Netherlands).

afaik 0 reception in KL.
there are some guys in SG who posted before that they managed to get reception, in some tall apartment, in a certain quadrant, at a certain time...kinda pointless basically.

as for europe, i believe there is a casio world map that shows broadcast coverage, and each station covers up to a 1500km radius...so quite abit of europe is covered.

Meh... sounds like not worth getting an RC then. GPS based ones are too pricey... and the ones I've seen look like arse. Good excuse to not buy anything I guess...

just buy a mudman G-9300.

I got bitten by a PAM000. What's the story with these babies? I see lots of used on sale here.

PAM111 also looks fine, I like the fact it is C.O.S.C, and has the small seconds, so I know the watch is working. Also with the Luminor "Marina" on the dial.

PAM005 is way too damn busy. What's the current RRP on PAM000 and PAM111? Some education on Panerais appreciated.

guys, saw this today. any comment?




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Wow... a Citizen mechanical... now that's something you don't see every day.

About the PAMs, can't say much. Only ones I ever considered were for flipping. Acquired taste I guess...

This post has been edited by biatch0: Sep 6 2013, 06:20 PM

i try to look for the movement details but failed

if it is Miyota 9015, i will pull trigger soon

it uses miyota 8200.

Thanks for the read !!! It made my Day !!!
reason.....


kekekekeke





This post has been edited by simplicio: Sep 6 2013, 09:55 PM

ok, thks.

will pass this for the time being.

Orange car, orange watch



This post has been edited by ckk125: Sep 7 2013, 10:45 AM

Back to where it belongs.

just a thought...in view of the impending implementation of the GST, will watches get affected?

Everything, even the cuppa teh tarik at the mamak. Unless no receipt lah.

Anyone knows where can I get Daniel Wellington watch?

LLD @ Yankees VS Red Sox yesterday night. Sorry for the bad shot, haha.

This was taken down some time ago but someone reuploaded. Worth watching.

just wanna get an opinion, what is the most common size of strap?

18mm is totally out, so is it 20mm or 22mm?

anyone know best watch shop to get oris aquis date women black color ? RRP 6.5k dunno price after less

what's the discounts like for Panerai? And anybody got a recommended shop/sales person?

Usually zero if u bargain well as best 10%
Which watch u looking at?

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 9 2013, 10:24 PM

pre owned / pre loved = shd be more than 30% off

Looking for new from boutique. The only pre-own I'd consider purchasing is a Rolex...actually, I would only buy a Rolex if its vintage. That's me.

i noticed people will say Omega > Tag. actually why is that so? and why is it said that Tag is overpriced? Omega is not cheap also wor..

Buy a new Pam 000 or 111 they are base on Unitas.
New P series will u around rm 17k for 000 or 20k for 111.
Too expensive for my taste

Even pre own it's hard to find 30% a 111 used maybe 15-16k. On forum maybe can find 30%

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 9 2013, 10:53 PM

I own a Tag, Omega > Tag.
At the end of the day buy the piece you like, that speaks to you, that looks good on YOUR wrists. Who cares if its overpriced or not as long as you can afford it.


What would you buy around RM17k?
EDIT: new, from boutique.

This post has been edited by Jason: Sep 9 2013, 10:53 PM

thanks for the reply!

Can you explain why Omega>Tag for you?

will i be able to get anything from Omega around 7k-8k range?

as of now, for brand new...only Omega quartz range.
Cheapest auto Omega new after discount should be around the high RM9k range.

so needless to say, going pre-owned gets you more options.

17k so many to choose.
A simple zenith, dornblueth etc all within reach

Pam does the limited series thing, each 000 P series maybe limited to 1500. Get a dornblueth their annual total production maybe 500 new direct from maker still can customize!

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 9 2013, 11:08 PM

going pre-owned will open up to alot problems for me.. coz i duno about watches, takut kena tipu

Find a renown preown seller no worries ie
www.passions.com.sg

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 9 2013, 11:04 PM

Omega = legendary moon watch, made a lot of in-house movements up until the 80s. used to be viewed as a competitor to Rolex, the recent James Bond association (but we all know the real Bond watch is a Rolex).

Tag Heuer = the brand can't come close to Rolex, usually sports watch, mainly associated with racing. it was legendary when it was just Heuer, esp. in the 60s. but by the 70s they started using Lemania and Valjoux movements, nothing notable after being acquired by Tag. The latest in-house movement 1887 is a joke IMO, the father is Seiko and mother is Tag Heuer, a ******* child at best - regardless of what anybody says. Yes I know they have belt driven watches like the V4 and what not, but those are not the ones we normal people can buy. As a whole I doubt I've come across a justification that Tag Heuer is above the likes of Omega.

The only reason I like it is
http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/why-tag-h...brand-487593292

But really, Heuer was legendary, Tag Heuer is silly - they just spend millions on marketing.

The only Zenith I like is the 1969 El Primero, 18k after discount. But I already have a TH Carrera. I'm not so into dressy watches.
This Dornblueth, give me a bit of A.Lange Sohne feel. Not my type of piece.

The pammy I want is definitely one without an in-house movement, hand wound. so its the 000 or the 112. again.. i got to put it on my wrist..
I loved the Oris TT1 Diver so much until its on my wrist, then i threw up.

This post has been edited by Jason: Sep 9 2013, 11:11 PM

Well rolex don't really burn a lot of money in R&D. These days they increase case size. Much like iPhone offering smaller screen for emerging market.

Rolex spends over usd$44M in USA on marketing
Tag spends half of that.
Omega ~usd$15M

I wonder how much they spend in Asia

Then buy a Pam, your $$ u happy. Lol

Unitas non hacking very accurate buy a movement ~usd$300. Complain tag using seiko... Don't get logic here. At least a chrono cost for making that ~usd$600 or more price price of that ~usd$4-5k. Talk about crazy marketing. Preference is a personal thing cannot reason. Just enjoy

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 9 2013, 11:24 PM

many shops can get good discount..dont worry

the only pam i somewhat like is the 512.

Good choice, I like that too.. Price also nice rm$24k

detailed explainations cheers!

will buying an Omega in the US be cheaper than buying in Msia? anyone had experience?

U coming to states? Best check out cost locally when u are there do your math!

with the USD at it is now?
if prices on chrono24 are anything to go by, then buying it here is much cheaper.

Yup going this year do they offer discounts like the shops here? I dont think comparing the Srp is accurate

Hmm some products like lv, burberry etc are still cheaper in US, even after USD went up.. So was wondering bout watches

smaller shops offer discount dont go big shops. Tourneau many times dont give good discount.
where part of states U going? try posting on WUS they can point u in the right direction
Tourneau outlet U may find better deals - watches on avg has like 25% off, others as high as 40%.

dude here reported he bargained and get over 50% off MB.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/santa-went...-ho-774416.html

this moon watch is at 23% off in states, I thought around asia Omega discount is like 8-12%.
http://www.chrono24.com/en/omega/speedmast...facturerIds=187

Ebel outlet u can find their 1911 BTR chrono at steep discount. UN bought the rights to the movement and ebel is leaving chrono biz. A Ulysse Nardin Caliber 150 will be priced way over usd$12k
http://www.watchtime.com/wristwatch-indust...ph-caliber-137/

Ppl reporting to buy at usd$1.8k when watch Retails at ~usd$5k, hard to find today
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/my-new-ebe...ool-800126.html

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 10 2013, 05:23 AM

Logic here is, Pam doesn't pretend to be something its not. All the while they have been using other company's movements in their watches since the dawn of Panerai. Rolex first, then the Unitas etc. Tag's "in house" movement on the hand is a Japanese, with some modifications and they call it "Swiss made", so the Tag Heuer is pretending to be something that is not, like I said, Japanese father with Swiss mother. The Pam with the Unitas is more Swiss than the 1887 will ever be. My opinion only. At least Pam doesn't pretend the Unitas movement is in house.

BOOM!

EDIT: And I'm not a TH basher, I own a TH and I love mine. Just stating facts. Peace

This post has been edited by Jason: Sep 10 2013, 01:30 AM

my PAM-ILY!!

PAM388


PAM111

hello,

anyone here have experience bought pre-owned watch from WatchLIM before ? legit ?

My own experience, legit.

Facts?? U sure?? Its more bashing.
Tag bought the right to make 6s37 and they build the movement inhouse with modification. The defination of inhouse is making a movement under its roof, not design R&D must be done in house. Your defination seem to be design And all must be inhouse. Jap movement not inferior.
Muhle also does similar under Swatch group today they build their clone ETA in glashutte, Germany glashutte no issue with them today.

A newer example ulysse nardin buying ebel 137.
http://www.watchtime.com/wristwatch-indust...ph-caliber-137/

Pam Italian brand today Swiss, if get this heart not pain?
No need to pretend just those willing carrot. Again not my $ no decision here. Lol
http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/mess...sterious+PAM318

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 10 2013, 05:07 AM

No experience but I have feeling its legit
http://watchlim.blogspot.com/?m=1

No complains from local customers
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.php?topic=5572.0

Seiko forum complain about franken
http://forums.seikoclubsg.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=3919

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 10 2013, 05:32 AM

guys,

anyone has good trick how to build natural patina faster on bronze?

my bronzo still looks so virgin/fresh....

Example to look below.....

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wooo nice watch u have there

tat is an example of patina i wish to have, i cant afford Bronzo Pam for sure.

mine is Steinhart Apollon Bronzo

diff qualities of bronze.
diff climates.
maybe if you stayed by a beach it'll corrode faster

Let it experience sea wind for 1 month

A nice write up for PAM 000
http://timetapestry.blogspot.com/2010/03/o...lso-one-of.html
If I would to get a Pam, surely is 000

my bronze is in CuSn8 grade.

humidy in malaysia wont helps?

Sigh, guess somebody never do research, let me break it down for you why i say "TH 1887 pretend to be something its not"

TH CLAIMS in their 2nd December 2009 Press Release that "Calibre 1887 fifth movement designed 100% in-house by TAG Heuer"

So, is my grasp of the English language bad, or you don't understand what I am pointing out here?

Did other watch manufacturer made such false claims?


The PAM318, there's 2 ways to think of it. One is that the buyers got short changed. Or if you look at it from a different perspective, I think it is brilliant, nobody caught on to what Panerai was doing.
Do you know the term "to sell you a Brooklyn bridge"? Did you notice the case back engraving is of the Brooklyn Bridge?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn_Bridge


Thanks, cool read.

any casio edifice shop in klang/PJ area ?

appreciate the links

Hey everyone... I was at The Hour Glass shop overhere in Sydney just now and I saw an Automatic Tag Heuer Aquaracer 300m Calibre 5 Black Surface costing only RM5k after conversion, discount and tax refund (before Tax Refund is about RM5.5k)... Should I get it I wonder? If my memory is right, I think it cost RM6.5k back in Malaysia, am I right guys? ...

The model that I was talking about is this one... http://us.tagheuer.com/en/home#/en-luxury-...-wap2010-ba0830

This post has been edited by Victor3010: Sep 10 2013, 06:49 PM

how bout gettin on9 one..

https://www.facebook.com/kedaiCasio

trustable seller

next time quote your research easier to follow what u trying to say. 100% design inhouse u trying to say not just in house that u trying to point out in your post. Be clear. I am right it's build in house, they didn't design 100% I did state it's seiko. Hard to read mind if u cannot make it clear like the post below.
http://blog.perpetuelle.com/special-report...er-1887-launch/

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 10 2013, 08:55 PM

I believe the price lesser than 5.5k in KL

So, for the sake of discussion, when somebody says "in-house movement" by XX. What does it mean to you?

To me, it means
100% designed in house by XX
100% built in house by XX

Then you call it in house. Else, defeats the purpose of calling it in house, no?

if TH 1887 movement is in-house
Rolex 3135 also in-house

If both can be called "in house movements", then that kinda degrades the definition of in-house, cause Rolex 3135 is 100% designed by Rolex, 100% made by Rolex. Whereas TH is just Swiss Made by TH, modified by TH, designed in Japan.

Sorry, you kinda lost me, I've always understood that when you call the movement in-house, it is 100% designed and 100% made in house.