The Hublot looks like something Darth Vader would wear LOL. But I'm sure some Russian oligarch will buy it eventually.

Surprised you have the need for that

^Who's the maker planned for this? Sandwich dial looks good but lack of a seconds hand bothers me a bit.

The watch itself looks like a typical fashion watch, which I do not mind at all (might even wear it for a quirky look). The only thing is the accountability issue: the contribution may be quantified but who determines how much money really goes to the charities. IMO a marketing ploy by the owner but if it really benefits the under-privileged, all power to them.

Anyway, I'm guestimating the manufacturing cost per watch would be in the sub USD5 range, based on this.

The look and feel of the watch is the first giveaway, e.g. weight, dial markers, edges of casing/bracelet etc. Plus if you see can see the escapement ('tourbillon wannabe') it is most likely a Chinese fake. For the watched you posted, not only is it fake, but a very ugly one too

There is a possibility that he was duped into believing it's real. Anyway a fake's a fake but I wouldn't make a statement of it to acquaintances unless they are close friends.

Which 20k watch is that?

Still harping on the fake Tag? I think you should let it go already

No one said it cannot be done. Case back engraving is very common, but I don't think they are usually done by the manufacturer, even JLC sources the services of a third party artisan for Reverso engravings.

A watch with engraved case back would probably be worth less than one without.

Oh sori missed out the dial. You didn't happen to get that at a pawn shop did you? I would be very careful...being in possession of stolen goods would be quite risky.

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You can just stroll in to your boss' room and get a close up look at his AP, and yet you choose to ask a q regarding it in a forum full of dubious characters? Are there trust issues between you and him?

Dude, you're wearing a 20k watch. Save up a bit more and you can probably go for pre-owned PP (not a perp calendar of course). Ingersoll is so way below you.

Is your 20k watch a quartz watch?

^Breitling Aerospace? My Nighthawk comes in handy for those days when I'm in a rush and don't feel like setting the time.

Used to own the havana version (brown dial with leather strap) but sold it and got a black-dial on SS bracelet. Kind of miss the old one.

Why so emo? Did you ask for her phone number?

The question is do you think it's worth it? No doubt Zenith is a respectable brand and the El Primero movement legendary. But the two-tone casing doesn't work for me and for that kind of money, there are lots of other choices.

If you want to stick to Zenith may I suggest the Captain Winsor Chronograph. You'll get an annual calendar complication for about the same amount of money.

http://www.prestigetime.com/item/Zenith/Ca...54~22.c708.html

^What was the deal breaker?

I like the dial, but not the way the lugs taper away from the case. And what's that protruding part between the crowns? A bit unnecessary if you ask me.

I inquired on the Speedy Pro's price from WUS forum AD (I think it was Ace) around 1-2 years ago. At that time's exchange rate I think it was less than 10k after discount for a new 3570.50.

Rolex Air Kng

I don't think Rolex is going to swap out a black bezel for a different colored one. Anyway, not easy to get parts from sources other than Rolex themselves, or so I've heard.