How about Honda?

No such thing as rebates through RnD.  There is such thing as RnD grant been given to proton. ~The grant is 200million per year.

The rebates the article referring to is before 2005, where proton/perodua did get tax rebate 50% in excise duty. Because of this, our goverment have been punish due to infringement of AFTA. Need to pay fine to thai/indo.

After 2005, proton no longer receive any tax rebate.  In terms of excise rate, proton get the lowest rating due to engine is locally produce. The lowest rate is 65% if im not mistaken. Other car markers is 75% for 1.6liter engine. If CKD the rating is as close as Proton. Nissan Almera is high on local content, that is why it is cheap.

If you saying RnD grant is protectionsm, it is a normal practice around the world.  RnD grant is given to any local company that do extensive RnD. Not only Proton. And 200 million is not a lot.  Ford, holden get more RnD grant from AU government.
In terms of tax, Proton does not have any advantage, in fact disadvantage. In langkawi, they do not enjoy the excise tax exemption because of custom act does not justify product originate from malaysia to have tax exemption. That is why Proton in langkawi is not that cheap.

Wow, you're a designer? Should help design Proton's car wey, they really know nuts about design 

That is why Toyota can sell high priced car in Malaysia, and give their staff 12 months bonus. When asked why their car is expensive, they just point to Proton. And people believe it. Kena kencing semua.

what i mean is some of malaysia women during ww2..

walauweyy.. 12 month bonus... selling car 50% less than produa... and get 12 month bonus???
must be profit margin per car very high...

Wow, you're a designer? Should help design Proton's car wey, they really know nuts about design 

Proton is Potong , a national car company subsidized by Government and monopoly ONLY in Malaysia market and at the end potong face loss in revenue every year ,thats why call Potong .

Actually you just echoed what I said previously. If it's not clear enough, then should I say the grant is given as an R&D incentive which is essentially used to offset the tax. That is how proton can priced its car at its current market prices (which is already not cheap).

yes, very
because so much hardcore fans
2 airbags, even if they set the price at 100k, still will sell well
thats why UMW SA have to thanks those "hardcore fans/blind fans" for their money

Bottom line, car price currently is controlled more by the car companies, not the taxes.

If Toyota or Honda on Nissan or anyone can set the car price high, and still sell, they will. That is the value of a brand. Why sell at 60K when people will still buy the same product at 120K?

yes, very
because so much hardcore fans
2 airbags, even if they set the price at 100k, still will sell well
thats why UMW SA have to thanks those "hardcore fans/blind fans" for their money

yes, very
because so much hardcore fans
2 airbags, even if they set the price at 100k, still will sell well
thats why UMW SA have to thanks those "hardcore fans/blind fans" for their money

i guess profit margin per car for toyota is more than RM20k

i guess profit margin per car for toyota is more than RM20k

Actually it's the chicken and egg story again. You can't say it's not becos of the tax. You see, our gov imposed those taxes on all carmakers but smartly give the R&D incentive to our local carmakers to offset the said tax. It may look fair from one angle and unfair from another.

Morever, why the high excise tax in the first place? So now the foreign carmakers have excuses to jack up their prices and with the tax imposed on them you don't need me to elaborate further

The new Vios already open for booking since last month 

not sure, need to see the AP
but should around 10-20k for that kind of spec
in malaysia, vios is kind of equivalent to a saga...so go figure
thats why i always say UMW is ripping us off
not only charge us expensive, before it even reach here, they kinda will remove some of the feature as well

Morever, why the high excise tax in the first place? So now the foreign carmakers have excuses to jack up their prices and with the tax imposed on them you don't need me to elaborate further

200 million is not enough to develop a car from scratch.  Perodua myvi cost 220million. That is rebagde. Not much RnD going on.  But 220 million.

Proton is much cost effective in developing car from scratch. Preve is 300 million. Suprima is 200 million.

As i said, RnD grant is normal practice. In fact, if the goverment really sincer in protecting proton, they should give more to Proton.

You should imagine how can proton sell at lower price if they do not have economies of scale. All parts for proton is costlier than Toyota. 

This is why Proton is not cheap, but they trying to make it cheap just for the sake of people asking 'national car price'.  So, that is why get a cheap car at the expense of quality.