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horns
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Jan 21 2014, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(Chew Yongxian @ Jan 21 2014, 12:22 PM) Thanks again for the great advice. RAPID sounds really good. Guess I'll have to tinker and play around with the Magician software, as well as using the ten step SSD Optimization. But for space, I think 250GB is enough for OS and several games. Gonna keep the other stuff like songs and movies in my 3TB Drive. But I will try not to breach 210GB as a space usage limit on the SSD. yes, that's a good practice (ssd as boot drive and hdd as storage) although it's good to allocate some space for over provisioning (10 to 15% should be suffice), you can use it as is for your usage.
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Sentinel92
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Jan 21 2014, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Jan 21 2014, 01:04 PM) im a vertex supporter  Hahaha yeah, I can see that. But yeah like I said once at a certain price range most if then perform almost the same. Yours is suffice for all your needs? QUOTE(horns @ Jan 21 2014, 02:29 PM) yes, that's a good practice (ssd as boot drive and hdd as storage) although it's good to allocate some space for over provisioning (10 to 15% should be suffice), you can use it as is for your usage. Yeah always planned to do a split program drive (ssd) and data drive (hdd). Alright noted. I usable space would be around 235GB or so, so I'll try to keep it around 200/210GB max. Worse comes to worse I'll get a second 250GB drive and do a RAID 0. But by then I Dont think RAPID can be used. See how. Thanks mate!
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horns
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Jan 21 2014, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(Chew Yongxian @ Jan 21 2014, 04:21 PM) Yeah always planned to do a split program drive (ssd) and data drive (hdd). Alright noted. I usable space would be around 235GB or so, so I'll try to keep it around 200/210GB max. Worse comes to worse I'll get a second 250GB drive and do a RAID 0. But by then I Dont think RAPID can be used. See how. Thanks mate!  all the best
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dtdw
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Jan 21 2014, 05:16 PM
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Another thing i've observed in regards to lifespan is also this:
I typically replace gadgets every 4 years. And current SSD can last roughly 7 years+ .. So aggressively installing/uninstalling stuff brings it to a close number of my 4 years usage.
But even with my aggressive usage, i think there's still plenty more than 4 years.
My point is, don't worry about the lifespan on current SSD. To keep it optimal
1. defrag=off 2. trim=on
And do whatever you want to it. I used it for my heavy rendering and it's still kicking after 2 years+ (lost count).
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horns
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Jan 21 2014, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(dtdw @ Jan 21 2014, 05:16 PM) Another thing i've observed in regards to lifespan is also this: I typically replace gadgets every 4 years. And current SSD can last roughly 7 years+ .. So aggressively installing/uninstalling stuff brings it to a close number of my 4 years usage. But even with my aggressive usage, i think there's still plenty more than 4 years. My point is, don't worry about the lifespan on current SSD. To keep it optimal 1. defrag=off 2. trim=on And do whatever you want to it. I used it for my heavy rendering and it's still kicking after 2 years+ (lost count). good point
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CocoMonGo
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Jan 21 2014, 07:02 PM
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hi guys can help explain something to me regarding intel 530 SSD please? am noob here. Noticed that on anandtech.com review of the drive they summarised the 530 as sequential read at 530Mbs and seq write as 480/490Mbs for even the 120Gb. But for many other reviews, seq writes is always lower the smaller the SSD is. any reason y?
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sasuketaichou
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Jan 21 2014, 07:06 PM
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is there a reason why ssd cannot along with hdd? mine always crash if use together, but if im using just one of them no bsod or crash
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Sentinel92
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Jan 21 2014, 07:07 PM
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=_________= Uh, guys, so much for matching the SSDs to Windows 8. Haha. Windows 9 rumored to be coming out later this year. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-9...ml#xtor=RSS-998» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE They better hurry....and they better get some people with common sense and a pulse of what power users actually want. WINDOWS is for people doing real work. If you want to play Angry Birds and check your f-ing email at Starbucks then buy a Mac... 99% of professionals don't want that shittttty Metro interface and all that touch/social crap when they are getting down to work for 12 hours a day flying through 20 different apps, most open at the same time. We want lean and mean and have the ability to customize and do what we've been doing for 20 years on Windows. There's a reason Microsoft has 80% of the desktops worldwide.... they are only slipping the last few years because they keep dumbing it down and making it look more like Apple. The more you do that the more unclear the choice becomes between windows/ios. Microsoft HIRE me, I can fix up ALL of your BS in about 10 days. Seriously.
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SUSkimsim
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Jan 21 2014, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Jan 21 2014, 07:02 PM) hi guys can help explain something to me regarding intel 530 SSD please? am noob here. Noticed that on anandtech.com review of the drive they summarised the 530 as sequential read at 530Mbs and seq write as 480/490Mbs for even the 120Gb. But for many other reviews, seq writes is always lower the smaller the SSD is. any reason y? Please google on above 256gb write speed would be different. In the every models have they lower speed on smaller storage of size. Good luck.
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horns
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Jan 21 2014, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(sasuketaichou @ Jan 21 2014, 07:06 PM) is there a reason why ssd cannot along with hdd? mine always crash if use together, but if im using just one of them no bsod or crash which ssd are you talking about? it never happened to me.
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sasuketaichou
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Jan 21 2014, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 21 2014, 11:01 PM) which ssd are you talking about? it never happened to me. mine is plextor m5, bsod randomly, usually when gaming, gpu ok, already swap but same problem, after a long research, let the ssd run without hdd, so far no bsod or freeze, same result when testing with only hdd, any idea?
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horns
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Jan 21 2014, 11:44 PM
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m5pro or m5s?
i never experienced any bsod myself, since day one. my laptop is running 2x plextor m5pro, 1x m5m, and 1x hdd.
what's your current firmware version for the m5? have you updated to the latest one?
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sasuketaichou
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Jan 21 2014, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 21 2014, 11:44 PM) m5pro or m5s? i never experienced any bsod myself, since day one. my laptop is running 2x plextor m5pro, 1x m5m, and 1x hdd. what's your current firmware version for the m5? have you updated to the latest one? m5s, v1.05 if im correct, my hdd is seagate baracuda 7200 rpm, dont know what coz it, last time ive try irst method, disable lpm and so on, didnt work
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horns
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Jan 22 2014, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(sasuketaichou @ Jan 21 2014, 11:56 PM) m5s, v1.05 if im correct, my hdd is seagate baracuda 7200 rpm, dont know what coz it, last time ive try irst method, disable lpm and so on, didnt work do you have any hints about the error message from thet bsod?
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-kytz-
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Jan 22 2014, 03:48 AM
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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Jan 21 2014, 07:02 PM) hi guys can help explain something to me regarding intel 530 SSD please? am noob here. Noticed that on anandtech.com review of the drive they summarised the 530 as sequential read at 530Mbs and seq write as 480/490Mbs for even the 120Gb. But for many other reviews, seq writes is always lower the smaller the SSD is. any reason y? You shouldn't be looking at the sequential read/write speed. You should be looking at the 512K and 4K read/write speed instead. QUOTE In the end, it confirms something we always thought but just didn’t really understand. Large sequential read and write access (high sequential and 512kb) are utilized by the average user less than 1% of the time yet the most used method of access is smaller random write access as shown by the 4k write at over 50%.
Manufacturers showcase high sequential disk transfer speeds in selling their SSDs solely for their lightning fast appearance yet, these high sequential speeds are actually the disk transfer method that is used the least at less than 1% in total. As much as we would like to lay blame solely on the SSD companies, the majority of blame actually goes right back to the new SSD consumer who knows of no other way to differentiate between the myriad of SSDs available other than through high sequential performance. http://www.thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/beg...acturers-bluff/
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Alexdp21
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Jan 22 2014, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(sasuketaichou @ Jan 21 2014, 11:56 PM) m5s, v1.05 if im correct, my hdd is seagate baracuda 7200 rpm, dont know what coz it, last time ive try irst method, disable lpm and so on, didnt work What is your SATA setting? Do you run in AHCI mode? To my knowledge, some HDD (older model) only able run in IDE mode. Maybe thats the cause of the problem.
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sasuketaichou
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Jan 22 2014, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 22 2014, 12:42 AM) do you have any hints about the error message from thet bsod? Level: critical source: kernel-power event id: 43 task category: (63) thats all i got from event viewer QUOTE(Alexdp21 @ Jan 22 2014, 09:14 AM) What is your SATA setting? Do you run in AHCI mode? To my knowledge, some HDD (older model) only able run in IDE mode. Maybe thats the cause of the problem. yes, but ive already tried using the hdd alone with AHCI mode, no problem, the problem exist only when the two are running in the same system.
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1024kbps
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Jan 22 2014, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 22 2014, 03:48 AM) You shouldn't be looking at the sequential read/write speed. You should be looking at the 512K and 4K read/write speed instead. http://www.thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/beg...acturers-bluff/Many ppl fell for that, including me lol For ppl who solely looks for higher performance at cheaper price, go for RAID 0 lah. if your mobo support TRIM with raid enabled(intel x67 or newer). You gain almost double performance compare to single large capacity SSD. but lost one sata port, 200% risk of losing data if lazy to do backup
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horns
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Jan 22 2014, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(sasuketaichou @ Jan 22 2014, 11:43 AM) Level: critical source: kernel-power event id: 43 task category: (63) thats all i got from event viewer the problem might be related to power plan settings. check your power plan, and set the hard disk option (turn off hard disk after) to never (meaning 0). also, someone use software to keep the hdd alive (http://keepalivehd.codeplex.com/). you might wanna use that too.
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sasuketaichou
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Jan 22 2014, 06:11 PM
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thanx guys but i think it didnt related with ssd or hdd, might be ram or proc or mobo, thanx for helping
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