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The SSD Thread V4, Solid State Drive
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SUSkimsim
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 Dec 16 2013, 08:09 AM
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Hi, guys here, after you when to SSD of any realiable brand and still needs that highend model of SSD to instead of entry level SSD?
From what I knew is :
Sata 2 read/write speed 200/350
SATA 3 read/write speed 350/450
Or 6GB : 500/550?
Which one you prefer or died died must buy faster speed?
For me really don't think is speed very improtant. The most improtant on realiable with over 200/250 read/write speed I had appreciate already with that speed easily winner to HDD..
This post has been edited by kimsim: Dec 16 2013, 08:11 AM
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 16 2013, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 16 2013, 09:20 AM) if i understand you correctly, in terms of consumer grade ssd's: if you're looking for reliability mainly and don't care about speed (you're happy with the sata2 speed), then most ssd's today can offer that. maybe you can choose one that has mlc nand chips with enterprise grade controller (like corsair neutron gtx, notably the older version with 25nm nand). whether to get an entry level or high-end one, it's up to your usage requirements. to most users, they're the same except for several things that some care while some don't. sata3 ssd's are common now. sata3 is 2x sata2 in terms of speed. if your computer supports sata3, then why not? again, whether you must 'die die' get sata3 ssd's or not is still up to you. now, if you are really serious about reliability, you can go for enterprise ssd's, not normal consumer grade. Thanks your explanation here. |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 16 2013, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(optiplex @ Dec 16 2013, 10:43 PM) [attachmentid=3771915] Anyone know why Kingmax 120gb SATA 3 speed so crap compare to my crucial m4? Kingmax left, Crucial right. I swap crucial and Kingmax cabling , kingmax still crap.. Kingmax not performance SSD..  |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 22 2013, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Dec 22 2013, 10:41 AM) wanna ask which one is worth to buy sandisk ultra plus or samsung evo? both are the same, if intel 530 and sandisk or samsung evo not much different.. |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 23 2013, 07:22 AM
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finally got this 2 for speeding test out..  VS  how bout speed results? Intel 530 SSD  VS Samsung 840Evo non Pro  actually this both slightly feels is different on launch app only. |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 23 2013, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Dec 23 2013, 09:18 AM) Owh, i see... So what brand & model should i buy?  Btw thanks for rplying me...  Got money get 840Evo or Pro, really u need Pro?? |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 23 2013, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 15 2013, 08:22 PM) Anyone test your MBP before of normal HDD speed test? Would like to sharing more SSD for current MBP unibody. i just realise about the speed..  MBP 13 non Retina, after upgrade into OCZ sata 2 Vertex speed, feel that recent already.  rMBP late 2012 edition  rMBP 13 Late 2013 edition  |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 23 2013, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 23 2013, 11:00 AM) you haven't turned the RAPID mode on for samsung evo. right, for common usage there is not much difference. samsung 840 pro is an enthusiast consumer ssd. if you need to use a ssd for enterprise server apps with high read/write's, it's better to get the enterprise grade. alternatively, plan your deployments to use ramdisk and hdd if necessary. plextor is one of the better ones (like intel and samsung). i have 2.5" and msata ssd's from them. never had an issue. if you refer performance to speed only, normally yes the speed increases with size but slightly, but not necessarily. for instance, http://www.sandisk.com/products/ssd/sata/extreme-ii/for now, usually 240gb range is the sweet spot. (and sometimes in terms of speed this range has better results). I am not using any RAPID setup yet. That is just for speed test. My result still prefer on intel 530 good than enough |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 23 2013, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Dec 23 2013, 04:49 PM) After thinking about Samsung 840 Evo 250Gb price i think i wanna take Samsung 840 Pro 128Gb... Just OS and wanna use for program like Adobe illustrator & Photoshop only... It's worth it? Or should i just take Samsung 840 evo 250Gb? Bcoz no money to buy Samsung 840 Pro 256Gb... Hope someone can help me to solve my problems... What system r u upgrade from? Ok listen to me, I got rMBP read/write an over 600mbs. But I still feel my recently upgrade & review on intel 530 240gb SSD good than enough to handle all the ways. This post has been edited by kimsim: Dec 23 2013, 05:25 PM |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 23 2013, 06:28 PM
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Why need 840 Evo pro?
Isn't all system can be support that fast?
Just grab within your budget and tell urself you are not using HDD anymore.
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 23 2013, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(Alexdp21 @ Dec 23 2013, 06:50 PM) Really? Damn easy for me to be tricked like that. lol. For normal user, does 120gb enough? sweet spot for price/performance/capacity. Enough for extra HDD for backup drive. The main to boot with 128gb SSD only.. |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 23 2013, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 23 2013, 07:07 PM) we hope things can be that easy for ocz consumer ssd's. unfortunately ocz always like to prove us wrong. the current sweet spot is 240-256gb based on price/performance/capacity (performance means read/write speeds and iops). if you must get it like right now and you have budget constraints, then 120gb is still better than lower capacity ones. 128gb really sweet on budget space. Most of time really suffer on space not enough have to think where you want to clean out before install another app. Everything to be control like hell  That's what my experience on MBA running 128GB SSD. This post has been edited by kimsim: Dec 23 2013, 07:39 PM |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 24 2013, 06:02 AM
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QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Dec 24 2013, 05:58 AM) Just Using old skool system... AMD Phenom II X6 1605T (Unlock) 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24) ASUS Crosshair IV Formula (AM3) AMD Radeon HD 6870 Crucial m4ssd 64GB Noted.. Time to upgrade into samsung 256gb 840Pro, cause your system is not recent. |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 24 2013, 06:04 AM
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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Dec 24 2013, 12:03 AM) kimsim, please read the rules. Noted! Thanks |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 24 2013, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Dec 24 2013, 06:11 AM) But no money to buy Samsung 840 pro 256GB... My money only can allow me to buy Samsung 840 Evo for right now or i need to wait till my money have enough to buy Samsung 840 pro 256GB? don't force yourself to buy as what you can't do at the moment now. For me I would go for 840 Evo that is really fast than 840 series. Even intel 530 for me is good than enough. For boot up and loading really fast than traditional HDD. Cause I believe in the technology wise by today can be write up to 900mbs and next day coming up write in 1500mbs, we can follow that but at lease we use in advance technology than traditional motor spin with control by rpm only.  This post has been edited by kimsim: Dec 24 2013, 06:35 AM |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 24 2013, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Dec 24 2013, 06:41 AM) Owh, i see... Thank you so much for ur help... You really help me out... I think i juz stay to Samsung 840 Evo...  Remember after install and feedback us. He he |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 24 2013, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Dec 24 2013, 07:09 AM) Sure2... I will... Heee... Yeh at lease my job is done... Lol Next who else can't solve with any SSD and storage size. This post has been edited by kimsim: Dec 24 2013, 07:37 AM |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 24 2013, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(Alexdp21 @ Dec 24 2013, 11:02 AM) Thanks to all sifus for your inputs. With my budget limitation, I think Im gonna opt for 256gb SanDisk Ultra Plus instead of the OCZ Vector. Cant wait to feel the performance of SSD.  I would prefer u go for extreme II, or intel 530 for save place. |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 24 2013, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 24 2013, 05:15 PM) Gaming? Frame per seconds? Or does he means the loads time in-game? I would say take the WDC Black, better responsive vs normal HDD, in the case of Seagate SSHD, I guess it's just a small cache to compensate some small files for frequent loading so I don't think it'll help much in terms of loading games data (huge), it'll still loads from the HDD itself so the speed is still slower compare to WDC Black. Suggest him SSD... no turning back...  If I not wrong for black WD SSD read 200 & write around 200 mbs = sata 2 speed. But still better than seagate hybrid drive This post has been edited by kimsim: Dec 24 2013, 05:45 PM |
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SUSkimsim
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Dec 24 2013, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(Alexdp21 @ Dec 24 2013, 09:04 PM) Extreme II is beyond my budget and I opt not to choose SandForce controller. Its either Ultra Plus or M5S 256gb. No problem as your budget more important |
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