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post Dec 23 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 15 2013, 08:22 PM)
Anyone test your MBP before of normal HDD speed test?
Would like to sharing more SSD for current MBP unibody.

i just realise about the speed..  drool.gif

MBP 13 non Retina, after upgrade into OCZ sata 2 Vertex speed, feel that recent already.
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rMBP late 2012 edition
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rMBP 13 Late 2013 edition
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post Dec 23 2013, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 23 2013, 07:22 AM)
finally got this 2 for speeding test out..
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actually this both slightly feels is different on launch app only.
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you haven't turned the RAPID mode on for samsung evo. right, for common usage there is not much difference.

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 23 2013, 09:10 AM)
Erm, my next company database server storage will change course, "switch to Samsung", hehehehehe brows.gif , get the "Pro"! thumbup.gif
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samsung 840 pro is an enthusiast consumer ssd. if you need to use a ssd for enterprise server apps with high read/write's, it's better to get the enterprise grade. alternatively, plan your deployments to use ramdisk and hdd if necessary.

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 23 2013, 09:23 AM)
Samsung Evo series is the sweet spot right now for the speed and IOPS, shocking high vs the Intel counterpart.
But if you just need a program/OS speed up, I think any SSD will do, just a tad 1~2 seconds different in real-life feels, buy with guts whistling.gif .
Btw I chose Plextor and no regret! thumbup.gif
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plextor is one of the better ones (like intel and samsung). i have 2.5" and msata ssd's from them. never had an issue.

QUOTE(noobandroid @ Dec 23 2013, 09:55 AM)
does the performance of the SSD increases as total disk space increases? 128GB is faster than a 64GB SSD as example
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if you refer performance to speed only, normally yes the speed increases with size but slightly, but not necessarily. for instance, http://www.sandisk.com/products/ssd/sata/extreme-ii/

for now, usually 240gb range is the sweet spot. (and sometimes in terms of speed this range has better results).



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post Dec 23 2013, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 23 2013, 11:00 AM)
you haven't turned the RAPID mode on for samsung evo. right, for common usage there is not much difference.
samsung 840 pro is an enthusiast consumer ssd. if you need to use a ssd for enterprise server apps with high read/write's, it's better to get the enterprise grade. alternatively, plan your deployments to use ramdisk and hdd if necessary.
plextor is one of the better ones (like intel and samsung). i have 2.5" and msata ssd's from them. never had an issue.
if you refer performance to speed only, normally yes the speed increases with size but slightly, but not necessarily. for instance, http://www.sandisk.com/products/ssd/sata/extreme-ii/

for now, usually 240gb range is the sweet spot. (and sometimes in terms of speed this range has better results).
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I am not using any RAPID setup yet.
That is just for speed test.
My result still prefer on intel 530 good than enough
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post Dec 23 2013, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 23 2013, 11:00 AM)

samsung 840 pro is an enthusiast consumer ssd. if you need to use a ssd for enterprise server apps with high read/write's, it's better to get the enterprise grade. alternatively, plan your deployments to use ramdisk and hdd if necessary.
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I don't think I would use RAMDisk, or is there a good RAMDisk to recommend? Stability vs IOPS? hmm.gif
For a cheapskate company with small investment, I think it will be a huge upgrade from Intel X-25 to Samsung 840 Pro, or is there any better options, certainly the cost is a factor to be consider as well.

Googled that X-25, it was a darn fast read but the write... oh gosh, I should really get a change ASAP. doh.gif
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post Dec 23 2013, 04:43 PM

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Im about to buy a 256Gb OCZ Vector. Anyone here already experience the SSD? Had any major issue? Thanks
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post Dec 23 2013, 04:49 PM

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After thinking about Samsung 840 Evo 250Gb price i think i wanna take Samsung 840 Pro 128Gb... Just OS and wanna use for program like Adobe illustrator & Photoshop only... It's worth it? Or should i just take Samsung 840 evo 250Gb? Bcoz no money to buy Samsung 840 Pro 256Gb... Hope someone can help me to solve my problems... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Dec 23 2013, 04:49 PM)
After thinking about Samsung 840 Evo 250Gb price i think i wanna take Samsung 840 Pro 128Gb... Just OS and wanna use for program like Adobe illustrator & Photoshop only... It's worth it? Or should i just take Samsung 840 evo 250Gb? Bcoz no money to buy Samsung 840 Pro 256Gb... Hope someone can help me to solve my problems... sweat.gif
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What system r u upgrade from?

Ok listen to me, I got rMBP read/write an over 600mbs.

But I still feel my recently upgrade & review on intel 530 240gb SSD good than enough to handle all the ways.

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QUOTE(Alexdp21 @ Dec 23 2013, 04:43 PM)
Im about to buy a 256Gb OCZ Vector. Anyone here already experience the SSD? Had any major issue? Thanks
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Not sure if it's a good timing to buy OCZ products since it's already filled bankruptcy, Although Toshiba agreed to acquires its assets, RMA is going to have a lot of hassle i think.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 23 2013, 03:12 PM)
I don't think I would use RAMDisk, or is there a good RAMDisk to recommend? Stability vs IOPS? hmm.gif
For a cheapskate company with small investment, I think it will be a huge upgrade from Intel X-25 to Samsung 840 Pro, or is there any better options, certainly the cost is a factor to be consider as well.

Googled that X-25, it was a darn fast read but the write... oh gosh, I should really get a change ASAP. doh.gif
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first don't say like that. everything starts from small. small investment is fine. at least it's started. ok maybe ram disk is not for you.

yeah eSSD is rather expensive. samsung 840 pro is good enough i guess. other options with 5-year warranty are corsair neutron gtx 240gb or plextor m5pro xtreme.

QUOTE(Alexdp21 @ Dec 23 2013, 04:43 PM)
Im about to buy a 256Gb OCZ Vector. Anyone here already experience the SSD? Had any major issue? Thanks
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from what i have read, it has a high return rate (http://www.hardware.fr/articles/911-7/ssd.html)

QUOTE(Uncle Ron @ Dec 23 2013, 04:49 PM)
After thinking about Samsung 840 Evo 250Gb price i think i wanna take Samsung 840 Pro 128Gb... Just OS and wanna use for program like Adobe illustrator & Photoshop only... It's worth it? Or should i just take Samsung 840 evo 250Gb? Bcoz no money to buy Samsung 840 Pro 256Gb... Hope someone can help me to solve my problems... sweat.gif
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one way to get 840 pro is to be patient, save more, and get a higher capacity one. it's gonna last you for years. it's not that you will change it after months.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Dec 23 2013, 05:37 PM)
Not sure if it's a good timing to buy OCZ products since it's already filled bankruptcy, Although Toshiba agreed to acquires its assets, RMA is going to have a lot of hassle i think.
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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 23 2013, 05:39 PM)
from what i have read, it has a high return rate (http://www.hardware.fr/articles/911-7/ssd.html)
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though its back with 5 yrs warranty, u guys still not recommending it?anyone else have hands on to this model? Thanks for you input
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QUOTE(Alexdp21 @ Dec 23 2013, 06:07 PM)
though its back with 5 yrs warranty, u guys still not recommending it?anyone else have hands on to this model? Thanks for you input
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Longer warranty does not means it's good, I own 5 Western Digital HDD, all of them have longer warranty than competitors brands, does it mean they are good?
No, five of them have been RMA'ed. MTBF 2 millions hours it's just a marketing gimmick.
Why not Samsung Evo or 840?
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post Dec 23 2013, 06:28 PM

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Why need 840 Evo pro?
Isn't all system can be support that fast?

Just grab within your budget and tell urself you are not using HDD anymore.
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Really? Damn easy for me to be tricked like that. lol.
For normal user, does 120gb enough? sweet spot for price/performance/capacity.
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QUOTE(Alexdp21 @ Dec 23 2013, 06:50 PM)
Really? Damn easy for me to be tricked like that. lol.
For normal user, does 120gb enough? sweet spot for price/performance/capacity.
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Enough for extra HDD for backup drive.
The main to boot with 128gb SSD only..
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QUOTE(Alexdp21 @ Dec 23 2013, 06:50 PM)
Really? Damn easy for me to be tricked like that. lol.
For normal user, does 120gb enough? sweet spot for price/performance/capacity.
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we hope things can be that easy for ocz consumer ssd's. unfortunately ocz always like to prove us wrong.

the current sweet spot is 240-256gb based on price/performance/capacity (performance means read/write speeds and iops). if you must get it like right now and you have budget constraints, then 120gb is still better than lower capacity ones.
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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 23 2013, 07:07 PM)
we hope things can be that easy for ocz consumer ssd's. unfortunately ocz always like to prove us wrong.

the current sweet spot is 240-256gb based on price/performance/capacity (performance means read/write speeds and iops). if you must get it like right now and you have budget constraints, then 120gb is still better than lower capacity ones.
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128gb really sweet on budget space.
Most of time really suffer on space not enough have to think where you want to clean out before install another app.
Everything to be control like hell sad.gif

That's what my experience on MBA running 128GB SSD.

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 23 2013, 07:39 PM)
128gb really sweet on budget space.
Most of time really suffer on space not enough have to think where you want to clean out before install another app.
Everything to be control like hell sad.gif

That's what my experience on MBA running 128GB SSD.
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right; you know what it was like smile.gif that's why i really don't recommend small-sized ssd's.

it's just better to get a 240gb and have more fun and less hassles. (just be patient, and save a bit more)

of course, if ms.windows, ms.office, and a selected few other apps are pretty much what you need, then 120gb should be ok (use a hdd as storage).

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Looks like 240/250/256 gb is the sweet spot for me as a boot drive and to install a few games in it. But is it a good time to buy an ssd The price fluctuate a lot. It keep rising since August? Should I buy now or wait till new year?
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QUOTE(Alexdp21 @ Dec 23 2013, 08:05 PM)
Looks like 240/250/256 gb is the sweet spot for me as a boot drive and to install a few games in it. But is it a good time to buy an ssd The price fluctuate a lot. It keep rising since August? Should I buy now or wait till new year?
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Hm.. there will never be a good time. The best practice is always to spot one that suits your needs, grab it when you have enough budget and be done with it.

These days any decent ssd's mentioned here are already sufficient for personal computing. If you think its not sufficient, that means you know what you want and you might wanna look elsewhere.

Even with sata2 (250MB/s), a ssd will give you much better boot and app loading time, compared to hdd.
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