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post Jan 9 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jan 9 2015, 06:48 AM)
well said my daddy use 2 say this many freaking times laugh.gif doh.gif

in work 4 others sector,,,just do more jobs work and salary sure grow more or else just jump else where just like today job market laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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yeah i learned it from my dad and seniors that had done well in their careers and businesses. tbh to say it is easy, but you really need to work hard to make it real. (i'm working on it lol) again, i think it's better to pick things up along the way. the shortcut is apparently jumping here and there, but there will be something more valuable missing if you go along that line.

this world is fair in the sense that everyone is equal in terms of time. we all have the same 24 hours a day. the question is, how do you make the most values out of it?

damn i am way off-topic.

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notes on Crucial Storage Executive software: it's a big 150MB java-based Web GUI package, supports m500 and onwards.

what i think weird is that with such large package we don't have a tool that we can create bootable media for sanitation of a compatible drive (i think it's secure erase in another name). for w8/8.1 the drives are TCG-enabled by default so you cannot sanitize them. you can however perform a psid revert (i.e. returns a drive to its factory default state in the event a password-protected TCG-enabled drive's password is lost)

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post Jan 10 2015, 06:26 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 9 2015, 10:37 AM)
yeah i learned it from my dad and seniors that had done well in their careers and businesses. tbh to say it is easy, but you really need to work hard to make it real. (i'm working on it lol) again, i think it's better to pick things up along the way. the shortcut is apparently jumping here and there, but there will be something more valuable missing if you go along that line.

this world is fair in the sense that everyone is equal in terms of time. we all have the same 24 hours a day. the question is, how do you make the most values out of it?

damn i am way off-topic.
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indeed...not saying must jump after 6 months but rather after you had master all your crafts in company and decided 2 venture in something new in new environment time nod.gif

back 2 the SSD,,,i think i wait 512GB drop price only will pull the triggguh...i want 2 testing game launch in SSD and thinks they are faster than in HDD
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post Jan 10 2015, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jan 10 2015, 06:26 AM)
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indeed...not saying must jump after 6 months but rather after you had master all your crafts in company and decided 2 venture in something new in new environment time nod.gif

back 2 the SSD,,,i think i wait 512GB drop price only will pull the triggguh...i want 2 testing game launch in SSD and thinks they are faster than in HDD
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if that's the case it's a better move. work involves a lot of stuff and they are actually inter-related. it will take some time to learn them, before you can see things more practically from different angles, other than from your professional skill sets only. this helps to give much better justifications in a lot of things, and have better results in the end. there are mind barriers along the way, because many things don't simply click if you don't know how to tackle them. just overcome them as you go with open mind. it's not difficult tbh.

haha for common usage and gaming, sata ssd's are actually more than enough. there are good signs about price drop and capacity increase now. believe they will be available at much affordable price very soon.

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post Jan 10 2015, 02:42 PM

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sorry but i didn't go thru the whole thread. can i know what's the best SSD currently ? looking for something like 256gb or 512gb

Thanks.
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post Jan 10 2015, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 10 2015, 02:42 PM)
sorry but i didn't go thru the whole thread. can i know what's the best SSD currently ? looking for something like 256gb or 512gb

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crucial or intel but mostly will suggest samsung.
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jan 10 2015, 02:52 PM)
crucial or intel but mostly will suggest samsung.
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samsung 850 pro ? the one with 10 yrs warranty ?
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post Jan 10 2015, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 10 2015, 02:59 PM)
samsung 850 pro ? the one with 10 yrs warranty ?
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post Jan 10 2015, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 10 2015, 02:42 PM)
sorry but i didn't go thru the whole thread. can i know what's the best SSD currently ? looking for something like 256gb or 512gb

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Definitely the Samsung 850 Pro. It's the market leading SSD now smile.gif

Can get it cheaper via Amazon because the prices here in Malaysia is pretty expensive in comparison.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 10 2015, 03:56 PM)
Definitely the Samsung 850 Pro. It's the market leading SSD now smile.gif

Can get it cheaper via Amazon because the prices here in Malaysia is pretty expensive in comparison.
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Amazon ship to M'sia ? If yes will I be taxed when reach M'sia ?
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post Jan 10 2015, 11:19 PM

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you can have 2 choices to get a ssd. the first is to get the best premium drive, with a premium price (smaller capacity); the second is to get a mainstream drive, with higher capacity.

for general use, imo mainstream drives are fine already.

of course there is a third choice, get the premium drive with high capacity. it's up to you to decide.

if you have a good budget, you should go for samsung 850 pro. it's the best performance drive for now, with a good 10-year warranty.
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post Jan 11 2015, 01:14 AM

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any possibility 850 evo price can drop till bout rm450 in the middle of the year?
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post Jan 11 2015, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(sheng0729 @ Jan 11 2015, 01:14 AM)
any possibility 850 evo price can drop till bout rm450 in the middle of the year?
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Why don't get the 120GB version?
Also if you really want higher performance with cheaper price, do RAID 0, with two cheap SSD.
RAID 0 SSD is always faster than any single SATA 6GB/s SSD.
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post Jan 11 2015, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jan 11 2015, 01:30 AM)
Why don't get the 120GB version?
Also if you really want higher performance with cheaper price, do RAID 0, with two cheap SSD.
RAID 0 SSD is always faster than any single SATA 6GB/s SSD.
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using y50, single slot hard disk bay...120 too small...so going for 250 lo...if change new laptop can use the same ssd right
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post Jan 11 2015, 01:49 AM

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pcie 2 ssd
how good issit
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post Jan 11 2015, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(sheng0729 @ Jan 11 2015, 01:40 AM)
using y50, single slot hard disk bay...120 too small...so going for 250 lo...if change new laptop can use the same ssd right
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Yeah you can, but you don't need high performance SSD, most user don't need either, they makes little difference in performance.
most of the SATA SSD stuck at 6GB/s anyway, but the RAM caching software like Samsung Magician will help.

Most of the newer laptop moved to m.2 SSD iirc, which does not have the 6GB/s cap.
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post Jan 11 2015, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(lace @ Jan 11 2015, 01:49 AM)
pcie 2 ssd
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Depends, PCIE SSD (lower end PCIE SSD are just m.2 SSD with PCIE adapter anyway) is faster, but you must buy the one support booting (OPROM), some PCIE are unbootable, eg the Samsung XP941.

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post Jan 11 2015, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jan 11 2015, 02:01 AM)
Yeah you can, but you don't need high performance SSD, most user don't need either, they makes little difference in performance.
most of the SATA SSD stuck at 6GB/s anyway, but the RAM caching software like Samsung Magician will help.

Most of the newer laptop moved to m.2 SSD iirc, which does not have the 6GB/s cap.
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thinking of getting this cause got 5 year warranty....or not might go for mx100 which is best for buck from what i read
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post Jan 11 2015, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(sheng0729 @ Jan 11 2015, 02:06 AM)
thinking of getting this cause got 5 year warranty....or not might go for mx100 which is best for buck from what i read
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The SSD price will just keep dropping, no need for extra long warranty for it, after 10 year 1TB SSD might just cost as cheap as 1TB HDD.
Also if you torrenting on SSD, the SSD maker will not honor the warranty if total write bytes exceed the limited set by them.
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post Jan 11 2015, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(sheng0729 @ Jan 11 2015, 01:40 AM)
using y50, single slot hard disk bay...120 too small...so going for 250 lo...if change new laptop can use the same ssd right
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yes you can reuse it. it's just like hdd.

QUOTE(lace @ Jan 11 2015, 01:49 AM)
pcie 2 ssd
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do you mean to say pcie version 2.0, or x2 (2-lane) ssd?

in general pcie ssd are faster than sata ssd (depending on pcie version and the number of lanes). the minimal in the market now is pcie 2.0 x2, about 750MB/s. for x4 ssd, with ahci it's about 1 GB/s read/write (pcie 2.0); with nvme technology it can reach over 2GB/s (pcie 3.0).
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jan 11 2015, 02:12 AM)
The SSD price will just keep dropping, no need for extra long warranty for it, after 10 year 1TB SSD might just cost as cheap as 1TB HDD.
Also if you torrenting on SSD, the SSD maker will not honor the warranty if total write bytes exceed the limited set by them.
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hmm...will it still hurt the ssd if i torrent using external hdd?

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