no, if your mobo and os supports uefi, xp941 can boot without oprom. i am running one with w8.1 uefi and it works with m.2 or pcie slot (my current setup).

however if you don't have either support, yes you need the ones with oprom, like plextor drives.

edit: one more thing about m.2 ssd, there are 2 types of m.2 slot in laptops: sata-based and pcie-based. make sure you get the right one.

This post has been edited by horns: Jan 11 2015, 02:31 AM

http://www.techpowerup.com/208742/plextor-...xpress-ssd.html

something like this

oh this one is plextor m6e pcie 2.0 x2 ssd with aluminum heat sink. the current one in the market doesn't have the heat sink.

http://www.techpowerup.com/208683/samsung-...e-m-2-ssds.html

how bout this 1
issit gooding?

this one is my target hehe

pcie 3.0 x4 nvme. speed is over 2GB/s read.

im aiming this also
but i dunno my mobo got this slot or not
gg

am on
gygabyte h97n-wifi

you can use this whether or not you have m.2 slot. you can always get an pcie adapter for this. however take note that unlike plextor drives, it's unclear that this one has oprom for booting. if your mobo supports uefi then there will be no problem. just run windows in uefi mode.

well yeah. it needs some plannings by referring to the mobo manual.

Current technology such as m.2 or pcie may have its disadvantages but at least you can buy them now and start deploying them. I foresee that manufacturers may bring SAS3 technology (12Gb/s) to the high-end consumers market as SATA3 (6Gb/s) reached its limits.

SAS3-based SSDs are already available and well supported in the enterprise market and its only a matter of time before we see SAS ports available on consumer motherboards.

My new MX100 is choking like crazy. Any ideas?

Happens every time I run something. And my H75 fans are spinning at max. Dunno why that's happening too.

These 2 problems came together after I booted up for the first time after a month.

yes you will

This post has been edited by skylinelover: Jan 12 2015, 11:17 AM

it depends on how affordable sas can become. technology can propagate well only when it's affordable and abundant to everyone. sas is around for quite sometimes, but only a few use it in consumer space. of course 12Gb/s is an option in terms of speed, but pcie can run at even higher speed than sas (over 2GB/s, with nvme technology). about disadvantages, there might be some. however like any new technologies, they will go away eventually.

as a user, i want to get things that are readily available and most importantly, cheap. i still think the combo of sata ssd as boot/software/game drives and sata hdd as storage is good enough for personal computing in general. with ram-caching on hdd's, i don't feel any slowness in my current setup.

have you tried look-ups with google? some possible reasons reported were acronis background service (uninstall it), or rst driver issue (reinstall it)

No acronis on the ssd, I'll try the RST method.

anyone know if here got sell msata external casing?? itching for a big storage size pendrive

Doesn't all technologies require mass adoption to drive down the cost of manufacturing? Look at the current cost of PCIe-based storage and its acceptance among consumers. As you have demonstrated here, most consumers are still contented to be on SATA3 SSDs.

Some problems may go away but I doubt that the PCIE bus bandwidth sharing issue will go away. As GPU tech continues to improve with each iteration, more bandwidth will be required to drive the GPU. It will be interesting to see how the different manufacturers handle this bandwidth problem as the technology matures.

Why is this important? Consider the 4k video technology, at 24fps uncompressed 4K video (3840x2160, 12-bit RGB color) requires the bandwidth of approximately 900MB/s, well beyond SATA3 capability. Then again, we may have to re-engineer our data HDDs to ensure that they ARE capable of supporting 4k video in the near future. As we grow beyond 1080p, the exponential growth of data means that we will need new technology that don't limit us to 2x storage devices per PC (eg SATAe and M.2 on the existing Z97 and X99 motherboards).

Since SATA was developed to replace PATA storage technology in 2003 and successor to this decade old technology has come in the form of SATA Express (SATAe) which has a wider footprint compared with others. While the technology looks promising, its future is hazy beyond Intel Series 9 motherboards considering the shrinking real-estate of PC motherboards and whether Intel decides to integrate it to its future chipsets before we see it go mainstream. In the mean time, the next 2 years will see rapid introduction of new storage technology that promises to double the available bandwidth for storage devices.

This post has been edited by mrbob: Jan 12 2015, 04:32 PM

Didn't know it
EFI booting might be good for laptop or low end PC, i don't know about Intel mobo, but AMD 900 series mobo and older does not support RAID anymore if EFI enabled.
My pc still on legacy mode which booting is far much slower than my HTPC lol

Another way to boot the m2 SSD without OPROM probably is install the bootloader on bootable SSD/HDD, but this is just a theory.

first, pcie ssd is a new technology. i should say ssd technologies in general is still at active evolution stage. as storage, it will take quite some time to become as common and affordable as hdd today. to achieve mass adoption they started by using sata technology.

second, about pcie lane sharing, i think the actual question that needs to be answered is how more pcie lanes can be introduced to the system. evolution of new technologies almost always creates limitations to existing ones, and we cannot expect everything else to stop move forward when this happens, right? it's a good thing you know

currently, the ideal consumer systems to make better use of pcie ssd is x99 systems. these systems have more pcie lanes than z97 ones, so you can get the best of both world. (gpu and pcie ssd; well sort of) (ok yeah i just simplify stuff in order to explain things ) things like 4k videos are highend stuff, that need highend hardware, which brings me to another point: price. new technologies are initially all expensive. like 4k monitors, i don't really expect high adoption in consumer space any time soon. then how do these new products earn the keep in this competitive market? before they can go mainstream, they create limitations to the existing ones, so that other hardware in a system need changes as well in order to stay in the market (while maintaining their price as competitive as possible). all in all, we consumers benefit sooner if not later. all we need is to wait for the right time

by the way to solve the issue about storage bandwidth limitations, i think raid with multiple sata ssd's might be a better solution than to use ultra-speed spindle disks. as for satae, i am not really sure of its success in the future. your suggestion of adopting sas drives makes more sense.

i think there will be a day that nvme ssd supports oprom hehe (maybe by that time you already switched your system to a compatible one lol)

edit: one of the few things that makes me feel thrilled about new technologies like ssd is always the chances that technological spin-offs can happen to other matured hardware parts (most of them have only slow and little or no developments)

again, it's up to you to be early adopters of new technologies. there are risks that you must know (like incompatibility to current systems, and then there are these terrible price tags) if you don't wanna be one, tbh you have nothing to lose. we just need to be aware of these new things and put them into our wish lists if the price is right.

there are always cheaper ways to achieve the same outcomes with existing technologies. matured technologies have one common advantage: abundance. for instance, most of our systems have a lot of sata ports. if that's not enough you can grab raid cards (still affordable). the implementation is not that impressive, but it gets the job done. and it's cheaper.



This post has been edited by horns: Jan 13 2015, 10:34 AM

Yo duders; what SSD is the most bang for my buck at the 64-128 GB range at the moment? Kinda getting pissed at having the prospect of my lappy falling on hard surfaces and hearing the needle tick

The ones popular here are Intel 530 and Samsung 840 Evo 128GB is selling round RM260. It's a good time to move to 256GB (~RM465) instead. More space for programs to run.

Why no one recommends Plextor SSD?
How is the Plextor SSD price in Malaysia? In Singapore here the Plextor SSD M6P price same as 840 EVO, they even gave the external enclosure at first launch.