they did mention inspiration was from the F22 Raptor... if u look at the plane there are some slight influences from it

hey did u guys heard any case about stolen proton savvy? or the thieves dont bother to steal?

btw, I had a fren who bought a manual 2nd hand savvy (1 year) for just 25k.

Nah I think it's too "TOUGH" to break in because its built tougher than you think

the war between savvy and myvi is really a tough one , it can even last for ages .
for 1 thing i would like to say , both are different car build at different plant for different preference .

the thing is like this perodua myvi certainly got the easier to look view , and proton savvy certainly looks different . maybe many will say this ,'wah , savvy with bodykit much hotter than myvi' but bear in mind , yes we are talking about that , we are talking about bodykit , but the first thing ppl will think in mind is the original work of the car .

second thing is , ya. i have to admit myvi is bigger in size, and savvy is smaller. althought both feels exactly the same more and less size difference except when it comes into the business of headroom . the myvi has advantage due to its tall headroom , and it looks bigger due to the proportion of the car where u can see there is a wide body look alike . savvy looks different due to its stupid look , and the rear desgin makes it look smaller than it actually is , park an iswara beside and u will see how big the car is . i dont see any reason why ppl still argue on the size of myvi and savvy . but savvy does look really different , it might not looks special , but the buttock is really not a good thing . where to get a customer when the first impression is not 'wow' but 'yerrr' ...

over all , myvi has a great interior but wide use of plastic bins dashboard , and savvy has a so so interior but with wide use of slightly better texture plastics in the car , that makes the difference . i dont mean to bash savvy designer , but the interior of savvy especially the door panels looks sick. but no one will bother the perodua myvi interior or interior once u get used of the car .

another thing is the car , both car the engine and body is mean for different busines . yes u got the car , the savvy , it is a good handler . but why is there someone still saying ,' ya , myvi can be a good handler too , with struts bar and sports suspension..' this is the same argument where savvy supporters are saying , add bodykit to make savvy looks cool , and myvi supporters kiasu abit saying add more brace and struts to make the myvi drives great .

the reason myvi sells well is becaue it is suitable to the general public taste . most people in malaysia , they wants a car where it has space , cheap , and reputable , myvi has it all , it looks slightly bigger , it has price advantage with proton , and it has a toyota built engine . i do admit that myvi looks better , but it drives without soul , u feel the engine trying to struggle above 140(i was told) and the car feels unstable through corners , it feels like a box with an engine. on the ohter hand , savvy feels like u can really get yourself inside the car , like interconnected with the car , it feels alive , that the the perfect thign of proton savvy, u feel the soul , the engine , and the road , and u would feel that taking more and more and more corners everytime u exit the highway . but savvy doesn't really fit into the criteria where people hunts for a car , i mean , ya ... most of it's RnD is into the chassis developement , until they dont have much left to do the door panel hence they came out with stupid door panel design , but most people in malaysia needs a car which is a bit bigger , cheap and reputable , and proton fits it with a very debatable engine , the renault french engine . when people say cheap , it doesnt mean u have to consider what it is RnD in , no body will bother u when u say ... ' ya uncle , it is cheap becasue the chassis is so rigid and RnD of lotus' . i have to say , at this segment it isn't really a criteria for people to buy car in malaysia . proton has made a mistake this time in malaysia, it doesnt fit into any criteria where people needs on a car , especially u have a proton myvi as competitor . strong chassis and good handling might be a good selling point , but at this level , it is not the criteria and it is not what people needs for a car at 40-50k range . perhaps beasue they aim it to sell overseas more , so maybe it is not a mistake .

it is like a lady . myvi is plump , looks okok , where general ppl would accept her look , but she looks normal , and she got normal personality as most girls has , nothing much special , most important , she loves kids , she is almost good in every aspect . while savvy is like another girl , she looks ok , distinctive , with huge ear rings , got some tatoos at her buttcrack( just liek what proton savvy has so many design flaw , the butt) , she is an athlete and she got her own personality well , not well accepted by public , but will have her own fans or admirer .

the answer is easy , u would like to have a girl which looks and have normal , acceptable personality and style . or you would like to have a girl which has her own and style in another way .

This post has been edited by BridgestoneRE711: Feb 21 2007, 01:08 AM

hey all savvy lovers,

Do you think the savvy would be better with a 6th gear?

lol, it's all the gears are so flexible that i use 5th gear so frequently. It would so kick ass if there's a 6th gear option. I love playing with gears lol. It saves FC, and that's another reason why i love driving.

Oh, and another "sigh" is the internal build. It's so flimsy and cheap.

juara = smaller variant of the Hummer?

i am gonna get me a juara

though they say the savvy's engine is torque-y, but i don't know it's THAT torque-y to handle a 6th gear.

i don't know how to really determine the engine's torque power.

but i can do 5th gear at 40km/h+ or sometimes lower smoothly without any problems. RPM around 1.5K at around 40 and then increases accordingly to my velocity.

Can we please close this topic with this ending now! I totally agree with him.

i saw someone selling a 2005 Savvy for only 20k... Tiara Replacement Model is there..

actually i dont really understand why savvy is selling so cheap for a second hand car. To say that its a bad car i dont really agree. Actually how does the market sets the price for a second hand car anyway??

Woah.... 20k for a 2005 savvy... not bad huh... good buy ar? Im lookin for a second hand car

In fact this thread has been going for a long time and lots of bashing on both cars during the start of this thread. The argument can never end when one likes A and bashes on B while another likes B and bashes on A. So far as I have read in this thread, members are only speaking out their own opinion of how the Savvy/Myvi should be and not this way and not that way. So what's the point arguing??

Another thing is that like what you have stated earlier, certain people will like the Myvi and certain people will like the Savvy. There is no point of arguing which car is better and which is worst because it all sums up to one main point which is individual preference and it's not subjected to argument.

I don't think Juara is still on sale anymore. They would have stopped the production long ago since it hasn't done any good the company since the sales were really bad.

I agree with you urging the thread starter or perhaps the moderators in-charged to close this thread anytime soon. This argument about both cars will never end even in a hundred years.

gosh... i finally manage to finish reading up all the 900++ posts in this thread...

what did i learn?

1) if i'm some one trying to decide which car to get (Savvy or myVi), i think i should be able to make the choice as many posts do give good overview of both vehicles...

2) many posts consist of bashing... i'll try to put them into 2 grouops... some are really great posts with facts & points while the others are plain "baseless emotional" type... some even down right to personal insults which is very bad...

All in all, i did enjoy reading & thanks everyone for the time & efforts. But as the topic suggets, Savvy is one of Proton's latests model, like it or hate it, good or bad, it all depend on people's own perception.

On a bigger picture, of course a vehicle company's overall policy,QC+aftersales support, market demand, taxes, etc do play a roll, but We are here just at the LYN FnF forum, which should be a place where we "SHARE" infos & enthusiasm on vehicles (particularly) & not getting too personal... just IMHO...

Car rivalry on which is better never ends, from the evo vs impreza, BMW vs Merc, Ferrari vs Porsche and the list goes on.

But what BridgestoneRE711 has summarized is simply a masterpiece and i cant agree him more.

Unfortunately, it is bcoz of Malaysians, maybe Asian taste for reliable but soulless driving has prompted this. Its a fortunate there a few that still appreciate what driving is mend for.

Hehehe...that would cost another few thousand to add...
Which year's are u driving?
Been in the newest one with airbags, to me, similar to that of the City...maybe it's still new I guess...

I agree with BridgestoneRE711.
that should be the ending conclusion for this very looo000ng thread.

well i disagree this topic should be locked, but i do agree that the bashing stops here.

my 5 months savvy has done 11,000 km and i took the car for service before the CNY. Paid nothing for the service plus they wash the car too This weekend i will sent the car back to the service center to have the car fitted with bodykit

Well my FC has stabilise now as i can get around 460~480 km with RM 50 of fuel.

nice FC... superb 1.2cc...
keep up the good work...

I suppose a straight road condition.



Very good. Just wanna ask, is this mostly in highway or city? I think this is the main selling point for Savvy, not 'build tougher'. Another thing Proton could improve its Savvy sales is to ensure 'cheaper parts cost' mindset for its Savvy's french engine/mechanical parts.



Yep. It shouldn't be locked, but any bashes or anti-bashes should be deleted from now on. The word 'sux' and 'filmsy' and 'cheap plastic' and 'poor quality' appears too often. What we need here is the experience from Savvy owner, especially figure regarding FC, part costs, problems, and how to improve the rides.