make way for the 6k rev campro bypass...
please dun block the road even traffic jam...
haha...

LMAO

than you should go and ride a bicycle, as since there is no need to rush, you can slowly ride to anywhere you want, taking your all sweet time

Unbelievable. With the numbers of Campros on the road, How come I didn't see one catching one..

With that famous pics of Camry up in flames, why don't u bash Toyoda VVTi engines..


Wanna bash ferrari now? cos ONE RARE supercar caught fire today.
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/aut...rning-f430.html

Haha...come on. I wanna bash ferrari.
I burn my million RM, if i own one
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Lol..that must be the owner dunno how to take care his ferrari.
His engine must be kong, no engine oil or radiator also empty.
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That owner must cuai one. Ferrari is famous, cannot make mistake.
Sure owner fault. If Proton, i can say that is manufacture fault.
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Which one are u?

This post has been edited by Azuma-kun: Jul 27 2007, 03:22 PM

Matrix, stop with the ownzed and fanboy.

do you live and post just to 'pwn' people?

I only pawn people who rightly deserved to get pawned.

Ok, let's get back to the Savvy review.



btw, been looking hi and low for more SAvvy reviews on the web...not a lot...always go back to same few.

Who's driving the new facelifted 07 version? Anybody plan to book a Savvy lite?

This post has been edited by Matrix: Jul 27 2007, 04:53 PM

LOL, based on your mindset, I'm not surprise why Potong is getting from bad to worse. Why? When there is a defect, they are not trying hard to find the causes, rectify it or find alternative and prevent it from happening again. But instead, "you tak suka, jangan beli".

Back to topic, Savvy totally low resale value. Really pity those patriotic supporters and owners. Expect a sub 20K for a 3 years car, whereas a 5 years old Kelisa still able to maintain 20K region. 5 years Savvy? Expect 5-6K. Also, whether it can sell off is another issue, when the owner can't tolerate with it anymore going to the workshop everyweekend after 3 years. It makes the matter worst when it came out lite version. With this kind of trend(sudden discount) on Saga and Savvy, who can predict which model be next?

This post has been edited by wishb0ne: Jul 29 2007, 09:27 AM

proton din rectify the problem?
how many neos have their engine on fire?
only 1

but you are talking like every neo have their engine on fire
you are just a plain proton basher

since when savvy is a problematic car. The savvy is not like the saga la(no offence to the saga owners) that always breaks down. Just surf at savoc too see that savvy is actually a VERY reliable car. I think the resale value is low coz ppl think that savvy=tiara which is pretty stupid coz they are both diff models. Some more tiara is actually a citroen and not u know la french car how...

From the looks of the wreckage i believe its more than just cuai,engine malfunction most probably.Even NASA makes mistake,Ferarri isnt far from one.

Yes. Ferrari make mistake, everyone knows it

nope....u are wrong....human make mistakes

cannot agree more Pro-MX...hehe

Who gonna say, "People make mistake in Proton"? U want to say it?
The correct sentence will be "Proton make mistake."
Why cant the sentence be "Ferrari make mistake."? Rather than "People make mistake in Ferrari."

Actually..Proton didn't make mistake...they just EMBEZLE LOADS OF $$$. As in all cases everywhere, whenever corruptions are abound, quality drops like fly.......why else do you think Korea got so many buildings and bridges collapsing (less nowadays, but last time a lot)??

And they do make loads of "mistake". Just have a very nice long talk with a P1 salesman today...told me loads of stories...including how they wasted money making the wrong type of showroom which can't be used properly to store cars, lax of security, and also build dunno what somewhere all bloody useless....but then again, this is all the cronies rice bowl...

Also told me how the Saga 27K can comes about...because they've contracts with tons of suppliers to produce the parts (cronies, cronies etc etc), they have a huge stockpile of Saga parts and thus negotiated with the gov to allow them to reduce the tax somemore to clear off all the junk parts to build more junk cars. Also told me that the material used for the SAGA frame is even worst than before...super milo tin.....so if u love ur family, DON'T BUY A 27k SAGA.

The P1 salesman really honest guy-lah...he even admited the main problem with Proton is quality. I told him if u said like that also, than i better cabut!!! LOL.

Anyway, today i hope i haven't done something regretablle...just booked a standard MT Savvy as a 2nd car!

I've tested Viva 850, Auto 1.0 and Manual 1.0, Savvy MT pre-facelift, Savvy FL AMT and Savvy FL MT over a period of 3 weeks or so.

My wife preferred a Viva but i really feel lousy paying 37K for a Manual 1.0 viva. In terms of power, it's decent enuff and clutch is very soft, steering super light...i think it's great for ladies driver. However, i just feel the quality overall doesn't justify the price...even premium model has worst interior than my Myvi premium. Also, driving a Viva is very similar experience as Myvi...except that it's an inferior one, with louder engine (low speed still ok, highway will probably louder)...seats looks cheaper, power lesser, size smaller...it's like a downgraded Myvi......and i suspect it'll feel floaty when going pass 100km/h on the highway like a Kancil... i seriously can't say i fall in love with the Viva no matter what the ad tells me (Love Viva...yadda yadda ...yuck!!)..

So in the end it's a Savvy manual for me...my wife can take the Myvi since i do more travelling...hopefully FC will be better than my Myvi and thus save some $$$ there.

I sure hope it don't gives me problem or i'll really kena from my wife..."See! I told you not to buy Plotong Sawi!!!"....fingers double crossed... ...must pray very hard...

This post has been edited by Matrix: Jul 29 2007, 04:08 PM

its already a mistake that Proton was run by the government....all this while Proton was corrupted by those stupid politicians....i just hope volkswagen take over Proton and the gov can just f*** off....if that happens u can be assure that Proton will produce cars with better quality and technology....oh yea....congrats to ur purchase of the Savvy....hope it wont give u any problems...i think Savvy is a reliable car

This post has been edited by Pro-MX: Jul 29 2007, 04:46 PM

welcome to the family

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Added on July 29, 2007, 4:48 pmwow..... very informative information...

Lets see if what you say will come true next year when savvy turns 3

This post has been edited by evoHahn: Jul 29 2007, 04:48 PM

what a thread!!

Its so condusive in terms of helping forumers identify the bads of proton cars!!..hehe

I so so support this thread..

From Ferrari to Proton to whatever, this thread bashes for no reason.I dont think that buying Proton is not worth the money considering that Kancil is a stupider car, no offense i'm using one but i strongly believe that its a rip off but nobody complains.Its a rip off coz they should be selling one for sub 10k.

And Viva 660 should only cost 15 k.Then its worth it.

Kancil still ok ler...at 23k...but Viva are overpriced...if all the VIVA range off by 4K, then it's more acceptable.

Paying 44K for an auto "premium" that looks ridiculously and feels ridiculously cheap is nuts. VIVA premium should not exceed 40K....low end 24k...then it's considerable.
And Kancil 660 should be phase out like other kancil as well.