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hitsugaya2010
post May 28 2013, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(RabbitS @ May 28 2013, 07:07 PM)
In general 1 year.. Cause's from paki.. Potential terorrist I guess or his qualification not recognized? Or his income too low?
Risk what? Ntg to lose but all to gain..

Do u hv obligations u hv to meet? If not, then spread out ur remittance.. Dis is called averaging.. Unless u get big disc for sending a lot ler..

Try those prc massage centres at bugis..
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potential terrorist I do not know la.. haha.. but his income definitely not low.. hahaha.. oil and gas engineer.. hehe..
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QUOTE(mrjay12 @ May 28 2013, 10:13 AM)
The general trend seems to be so, but gone are the days where people can get their PR within the first year of staying here, even for Msian Chinese I feel. Preferred yes, but not everyone who applies will get it. I have seen friends who got rejected because they applied too soon. I got mine previously after my first EP renewal, which was after a 2 years stay.
I don't think any application is rejected because the application was "too soon". It's always on a case by case basis. The stronger your educational/professional profile; the more your age/gender/family status/nationality/race/religion fits or complements the "Singaporean Core", and the lower the political pressure at that time... - the more likely your application will be approved, notwithstanding whether you applied "too soon" or not.

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QUOTE(hitsugaya2010 @ May 28 2013, 08:27 PM)
potential terrorist I do not know la.. haha.. but his income definitely not low.. hahaha.. oil and gas engineer.. hehe..
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His profile definitely doesn't fit the Singaporean Core. And probably not considered a good complement to the Indian, Hindu part of the core as well. Might even be looked at as a negative or destabilising/antagonistic long term presence.

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Recently I got an offer from a consultant eng firm with a starting salary of SGD2800. Initially I though it was okay and I assume that most company will have a standard pay for new hire... so I don't really bother to negotiate...

but... people told me that the salary is way below market rate for Singapore standard... and the rent there is freaking expensive sad.gif
Now I feel kinda stupid and feel that I'm being taken advantage of...

My academic qualification is fairly above average and I am currently attached with a MNC in Malaysia... but after 6 months I fell like I'm not really learning anything and I was bored... that's when I decided to explore my options else where...

but now I'm having second thoughts about the offer but I feel obliged honor my agreement with the SG company...

Any advice for some one who is just starting out like me icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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post May 28 2013, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ May 27 2013, 09:58 PM)
You are much worse. What does that make you...
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you dad? i dont know.. please elaborate

QUOTE(jitshiong @ May 28 2013, 08:52 AM)
that makes him a bunny!
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miao.. lets keep comments towards sg issues shall we? not like d guy above..

10 most in-demand jobs in Singapore revealed

Office support, supervisors topped 2013 survey.

Manpower Singapore has released the results of 8th Talent Shortage Survey, which found that as the global talent shortage continues to intensify, 47% of employers in Singapore are experiencing difficulty finding staff with the right skills.

Global results of ManpowerGroup’s Talent Shortage Survey reveal 35% of employers worldwide are reporting shortages, the highest level since prior to the global economic crisis. Employers in Singapore are having the most difficulty filling jobs in Office support, Supervisors and Labourers this year in comparison to 2012’s jobs in Production Operations, Accounting & Finance and Engineers.

Here are the jobs most in demand in 2013 in Singapore:

Secretaries, Pas, Administrative Assistants & Office Support
Supervisors
Labourers <<--- didnt know my position is in demand... should ask for pay raise rclxms.gif
Drivers
Sales Representatives
Engineers
IT Staff
Skilled Trades
Accounting & Finance
Teachers

"Over time as the education and skill profile of the local workforce improve. HRs will need to consider a successful workforce strategy that will identify and solve current talent acquisition challenges, anticipate future challenges and put in place solutions to address them effectively," said Manpower.

"54% of Singaporean employers surveyed have indicated they will relook into their work models while 41% will increase their focus on improving their talent pipeline such as building a succession management approach," it added.

Manpower said that a closer look at the global survey results reveals the talent shortage is endemic across the world – but most acute in Japan (85 percent of employers), Brazil (68 percent) India (61 percent), Turkey (58 percent) and Hong Kong (58 percent). Employers in Ireland (three percent), Spain (three percent), South Africa (six percent), the Netherlands (nine percent) and Czech Republic (nine percent) are the least likely to face shortages.

The research shows that globally the roles most difficult to fill are Skilled Trades Workers, Engineers and Sales Representatives – unchanged from last year.

"Employers are reporting Accounting and Finance and Management/Executive positions are also increasingly hard to fill. Despite acknowledging the impact talent shortages have on their business, a staggering 22 percent of employers are not changing course to identify new ways to address these shortages." said Manpower.

http://sbr.com.sg/economy/in-focus/10-most...gapore-revealed
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post May 28 2013, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(rawrkun @ May 28 2013, 09:10 PM)
Recently I got an offer from a consultant eng firm with a starting salary of SGD2800. Initially I though it was okay and I assume that  most company will have a standard pay for new hire... so I don't really bother to negotiate...

but... people told me that the salary is way below market rate for Singapore standard... and the rent there is freaking expensive sad.gif 
Now I feel kinda stupid and feel that I'm being taken advantage of...

My academic qualification is fairly above average and I am currently attached with a MNC in Malaysia... but after 6 months I fell like I'm not really learning anything and I was bored... that's when I decided  to explore my options else where...

but now I'm having second thoughts about the offer but I feel obliged honor my agreement with the SG company... 

Any advice for some one who is just starting out like me  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Which field? Company name too if you don't mind hehe. Consultant engineer low starting pay is quite common, I saw resume with asking salary much lower than yours with 2 years exp. My new colleague a bit higher than yours, but she local postgrad.
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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ May 28 2013, 09:19 PM)
Which field? Company name too if you don't mind hehe. Consultant engineer low starting pay is quite common, I saw resume with asking salary much lower than yours with 2 years exp. My new colleague a bit higher than yours, but she local postgrad.
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How much is her salary? I've no money to study in SG, only can afford free education in a third rate Malaysian uni cry.gif I'm in civil btw...
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post May 28 2013, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(hitsugaya2010 @ May 28 2013, 08:27 PM)
potential terrorist I do not know la.. haha.. but his income definitely not low.. hahaha.. oil and gas engineer.. hehe..
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that's already quite high post leh
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post May 28 2013, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(rawrkun @ May 28 2013, 09:28 PM)
How much is her salary? I've no money to study in SG, only can afford free education in a third rate Malaysian uni  cry.gif I'm in civil btw...
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EP holder roughly more than 3k, should be around there. Which company ah?
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post May 28 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ May 28 2013, 10:02 PM)
EP holder roughly more than 3k, should be around there. Which company ah?
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wow ...that's a lot leh ...

2molo got interview at eunos

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post May 28 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(rawrkun @ May 28 2013, 09:28 PM)
How much is her salary? I've no money to study in SG, only can afford free education in a third rate Malaysian uni  cry.gif I'm in civil btw...

A year and a half ago http://www.mom.gov.sg/Documents/statistics...rsd_2011ROW.pdf

Civil Engineer Age 25-29
Median 2,800

Civil engineer - All
25 percentile 3,300
Median 4,100
75 percentile 5,308
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post May 28 2013, 11:06 PM

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With 5 years exp in financial industry, how much can I expect in Singapore? I'm looking into investment analyst vacancies. I tried to search for the salary survey report in those recruitment firm, but the range quoted quite big...

So if I put the amount I get here in Malaysia and change the sign to SGD, is it fair?

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post May 28 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ May 28 2013, 01:45 PM)
Not souring you la. Just saying some cases I know of. Member of professional bodies has some weightage. The form has some area to fill in your professional body and achievement right? If no use they won't put inside the form. If really desperate you can put from primary school to date.
See, his wife not in SG no job here also approved...
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yup, not sure when to move down to singapore as renting a whole flat is expensive and buying one will have sell away all the malaysia properties.....hard decision.....
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post May 28 2013, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ May 28 2013, 11:15 PM)
buying one will have sell away all the malaysia properties.....hard decision.....
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Only applies if you buy HDB, not private. There's still a lot of doubt how they will check that you don't have or sold your property overseas. No sovereign govt will release govt information on its citizens to a foreign govt (ie. information from Land Office). Especially if it's not criminal in nature.

The only possibility is if someone tips off HDB that you own a particular property in Malaysia, and HDB gets a Malaysian lawyer to do a title search for that particular property and the results show that you own the property. Using that info, HDB could then instruct you to dispose of that property and present proof.

http://www.pemudah.gov.my/documents/10124/...in+Malaysia.pdf

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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ May 28 2013, 10:02 PM)
EP holder roughly more than 3k, should be around there. Which company ah?
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geotech consultant... can't reveal anything more than that coz its a very small field...


QUOTE(deodorant @ May 28 2013, 10:48 PM)
A year and a half ago http://www.mom.gov.sg/Documents/statistics...rsd_2011ROW.pdf

Civil Engineer Age 25-29
Median 2,800

Civil engineer - All
25 percentile 3,300
Median 4,100
75 percentile 5,308
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Thank you so much for the info notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

So a year and a half ago I will fall under the median category hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

Damn... should have nego properly before accepting the offer sad.gif

Not sure whether I should just stick to my current job in MY or go for SG and try to negotiate after the probation period....



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post May 29 2013, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(rawrkun @ May 28 2013, 11:40 PM)
geotech consultant... can't reveal anything more than that coz its a very small field... 
Thank you so much for the info  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

  So a year and a half ago I will fall under the median category hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif 

Damn... should have nego properly before accepting the offer  sad.gif 

Not sure whether I should just stick to my current job in MY or go for SG and try to negotiate after the probation period....
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at lteast u have an idea liao

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QUOTE(rawrkun @ May 28 2013, 09:10 PM)
Recently I got an offer from a consultant eng firm with a starting salary of SGD2800. Initially I though it was okay and I assume that  most company will have a standard pay for new hire... so I don't really bother to negotiate...

but... people told me that the salary is way below market rate for Singapore standard... and the rent there is freaking expensive sad.gif 
Now I feel kinda stupid and feel that I'm being taken advantage of...

My academic qualification is fairly above average and I am currently attached with a MNC in Malaysia... but after 6 months I fell like I'm not really learning anything and I was bored... that's when I decided  to explore my options else where...

but now I'm having second thoughts about the offer but I feel obliged honor my agreement with the SG company... 

Any advice for some one who is just starting out like me  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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My BF only 1.8k when he started working in engineering field. So worry about my future that time cry.gif

QUOTE(deodorant @ May 28 2013, 10:48 PM)
A year and a half ago http://www.mom.gov.sg/Documents/statistics...rsd_2011ROW.pdf

Civil Engineer Age 25-29
Median 2,800

Civil engineer - All
25 percentile 3,300
Median 4,100
75 percentile 5,308
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cry.gif How to buy house to get married with that kind of salary? cry.gif How to make more babies for government? Should tell my future daughter no engineering BF please.

I think the figures on the low side. Last time I see the pay is not like that.
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QUOTE(goldconnection @ May 28 2013, 11:06 PM)
With 5 years exp in financial industry, how much can I expect in Singapore? I'm looking into investment analyst vacancies. I tried to search for the salary survey report in those recruitment firm, but the range quoted quite big...

So if I put the amount I get here in Malaysia and change the sign to SGD, is it fair?
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$4k-15k, yes, it is fair..

QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ May 29 2013, 12:11 AM)
My BF only 1.8k when he started working in engineering field. So worry about my future that time  cry.gif
cry.gif  How to buy house to get married with that kind of salary? cry.gif How to make more babies for government? Should tell my future daughter no engineering BF please.

I think the figures on the low side. Last time I see the pay is not like that.
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Well, ur bf u gotta make do with him.. Probably when u guys hv kids, he stay at home and you be the bread winner lor

Waa, not all engineers make so low.. Only in sg because there's hardly any big projects.. Mostly those in the oil n gas make big $$$..

Make babies get $$$ so should make more.. A lot of singaporean engineers run into banking or civil service.. There they are look upon more highly..
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QUOTE(rawrkun @ May 28 2013, 11:40 PM)
  So a year and a half ago I will fall under the median category hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif 

Damn... should have nego properly before accepting the offer  sad.gif 

Not sure whether I should just stick to my current job in MY or go for SG and try to negotiate after the probation period....
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negotiate after probation might not work because they will tell you that you sign the offer letter and agree to that salary.everything is still negotiable before you sign.

maybe you should ask if there is any increment after probation? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(rawrkun @ May 28 2013, 09:10 PM)
Recently I got an offer from a consultant eng firm with a starting salary of SGD2800. Initially I though it was okay and I assume that  most company will have a standard pay for new hire... so I don't really bother to negotiate...

but... people told me that the salary is way below market rate for Singapore standard... and the rent there is freaking expensive sad.gif 
Now I feel kinda stupid and feel that I'm being taken advantage of...

My academic qualification is fairly above average and I am currently attached with a MNC in Malaysia... but after 6 months I fell like I'm not really learning anything and I was bored... that's when I decided  to explore my options else where...

but now I'm having second thoughts about the offer but I feel obliged honor my agreement with the SG company... 

Any advice for some one who is just starting out like me  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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If you are fresh, i'd say that salary is fairly decent. (1 year or less consider fresh for this argument ok?)
Consultants usually start low, so 2.8k is considered high for fresh consultants as the mentor will need to actually hold ur hand and guide u on how to do the design works.
when u have enuff experience, u will have the leverage to request for more.

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