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post Sep 23 2013, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Sep 23 2013, 03:08 PM)
sifu, is there any way to upgrade for SSD and 8GB ram for 5470?
can windows 8 single language support it?
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Don't understand your questions smile.gif
If you mean if user could upgrade SSD for HDD and increase RAM to 8GB aftermarket, then obviously yes.
If you mean if Dell has any option for potential buyer to customise during purchase, in certain markets, it has spec that come with 128G SSD + 8GB RAM, just not in Malaysia yet tongue.gif
http://item.jd.com/973233.html

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post Sep 23 2013, 04:03 PM

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The vostro ultrabook suffer from this

1. Harddisk failure (Eithe the HDD will die or the Board will fried)
2. Battery failure (New notebook barely last 2hours)
3. Fragile (Dont drop)

We (as a company) uses 20++ of this notebook not even one escape from Harddisk failure or IC board burn...
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post Sep 23 2013, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Sep 23 2013, 04:03 PM)
We (as a company) uses 20++ of this notebook not even one escape from Harddisk failure or IC board burn...
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My company has been sticking with Latitude. We find the Vostro 5460 / 5470 is more like a consumer laptop (Dell / re-sellers can't even put in W7P for us doh.gif )
For corporate usage, if company don't want to go the route of Latitude 12/14 7000, stick with XPS13 (no proper docking station, but USB dock is better than nothing).
For cheaper alternative business use, stick with Vostro 3460, or consider the latest Latitude 14 3000.

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No problem getting Windows7 pro on vostro... but the ultrabook one really louzy... the normal vostro is good and solid
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post Sep 23 2013, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Sep 23 2013, 04:02 PM)
Yeah, definitely nod.gif
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How come can't even see order for Latitude on dell.com.my?


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post Sep 23 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Sep 23 2013, 04:03 PM)
The vostro ultrabook suffer from this

1. Harddisk failure (Eithe the HDD will die or the Board will fried)
2. Battery failure (New notebook barely last 2hours)
3. Fragile (Dont drop)

We (as a company) uses 20++ of this notebook not even one escape from Harddisk failure or IC board burn...
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Aih..this is kind of a bummer. I'm just a few days of wanting to get a notebook. Its between Acer and Dell now.
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post Sep 23 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Sep 23 2013, 04:12 PM)
No problem getting Windows7 pro on vostro... but the ultrabook one really louzy... the normal vostro is good and solid
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You mean your company can get Vostro 5460 / 5470 with W7P?
Our IT has checked, Dell don't entertain. Anyway, for the previous batch, we decided to stick with Latitude E5430 for the juniors. Currently checking if Latitude 14 3000 is ok or not (personally I don't like it since it don't have docking port, but it's cheaper than E5430), otherwise may wait for Latitude 14 5000 later this year.

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Sep 23 2013, 04:14 PM)
How come can't even see order for Latitude on dell.com.my?
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Dell Malaysia don't sell Latitude or Precision through Dell Online (retail) anymore since early 2013.
Either through corporate account, or through re-sellers (retail).
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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Sep 23 2013, 04:18 PM)
You mean your company can get Vostro 5460 / 5470 with W7P?
Our IT has checked, Dell don't entertain. Anyway, for the previous batch, we decided to stick with Latitude E5430 for the juniors. Currently checking if Latitude 14 3000 is ok or not (cheaper than E5430), otherwise may wait for Latitude 14 5000 later this year.
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You from dell for real?

If so, any word on when is Inspiron 7000 series coming to Malaysia?
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post Sep 23 2013, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Sep 23 2013, 04:16 PM)
Aih..this is kind of a bummer. I'm just a few days of wanting to get a notebook. Its between Acer and Dell now.
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company usage and consumer usage is different ma biggrin.gif
if company, some people dont intend to turn it off even for a week.
my company laptop never turn off for 3 months biggrin.gif
standby all the time, really lack of care.
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post Sep 23 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(shawnme @ Sep 23 2013, 03:17 PM)
Thank you guys for the enlightenment...

1. Wifi - I hope they fixed it with the new wifi card

2. Processor - im pretty confused, but I see the differences section in CPu Boss and it says that the clock speed etc is higher on the 3337U..that's where I got the idea that its a downgrade..in terms of performance I meant.. Am I wrong here? Really not sure. In fact, I actually asked dell if they could swap in the 3230M..lol

3. thanks for clarifying on the RAM warranty thing. So, where can I buy this ram? Roughly how much does it cost? Any brand recommended? Should I opt for ddr3L if it even exists?

4. A single excel file of mine can go up to 500 Mb..with interlink calculations with another excel files and I use macros to run them. I hope the 4200u can do it...I was worried because I was comparing it to the 3230M..which I am not really sure how much of these Ghz I really need..

5. Inspiron is a huge chunk of technology..I travel much..so 2.5 kg and with my ipad is really alot of weight to carry around..that's why I was so attracted to this model..I feel it sort of balances power and mobility..I don't need so much power to do 3D gaming or whatever's out there...just power for multitasking..and database processing..

6. Also, where should I order from? Dell's website?..or anywhere else with the same deal and freebies would be a plus.

Thanks again bros..
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1. The wifi card in 5470 support 802.11ac, so that's a tick on the future proof part. But the range still waiting to be seen hmm.gif

2. Can't just compare clock speed, otherwise the old Pentium 4 would have been the champion (P4 is really shitty tongue.gif ). Haswell (ix-4xxxx) has slightly better performance per clock compared to Ivy Bridge (ix-3xxxx). As I mentioned, if you are really looking towards performance, stick with M CPU.

3. if you go with 5470, even though some re-sellers said otherwise, I prefer to stick with DDR3L. You can get DDR3L now relatively easy.

4. No problem lah smile.gif

5. So you need mobility as well hmm.gif
Personally, I don't think 5460 handle the bump and bruise of biz travel that well tongue.gif If you swap out the HDD with SSD, then it handle the bump better (also improve battery running time as well, on top of having a more responsive laptop).

6. Yes , can order from Dell Online (use chat button to negotiate).
Re-sellers in LYN garage sales threads also carry this model (can COD)
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post Sep 23 2013, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Sep 23 2013, 04:26 PM)
You from dell for real?

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I'm NOT from Dell or working in any IT company / re-sellers lah tongue.gif

edit: I'm NOT

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Sep 23 2013, 04:59 PM)
I'm from Dell or working in any IT company / re-sellers lah tongue.gif
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Should I:

1. Wait for Inspiron 7000 (and will it be a light like Vostro)?

2. Go for Vostro 5470?


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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Sep 23 2013, 05:02 PM)
Should I:

1. Wait for Inspiron 7000 (and will it be a light like Vostro)?

2. Go for Vostro 5470?
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Edit, edit, I'm NOT working for Dell or any IT company / re-sellers tongue.gif

1. Anyway, Inspiron 7000 is more like current Inspiron Z, ultrabook and lighter than Inspiron 3000 (entry level Inspiron) or Inspiron 5000 (Inspiron R).

2. Can't say, since we have not seen Inspiron 7000 in person yet.
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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Sep 23 2013, 04:57 PM)
1. The wifi card in 5470 support 802.11ac, so that's a tick on the future proof part. But the range still waiting to be seen  hmm.gif

2. Can't just compare clock speed, otherwise the old Pentium 4 would have been the champion (P4 is really shitty tongue.gif ). Haswell (ix-4xxxx) has slightly better performance per clock compared to Ivy Bridge (ix-3xxxx). As I mentioned, if you are really looking towards performance, stick with M CPU.

3. if you go with 5470, even though some re-sellers said otherwise, I prefer to stick with DDR3L. You can get DDR3L now relatively easy.

4. No problem lah smile.gif

5. So you need mobility as well  hmm.gif
Personally, I don't think 5460 handle the bump and bruise of biz travel that well tongue.gif If you swap out the HDD with SSD, then it handle the bump better (also improve battery running time as well, on top of having a more responsive laptop).

6. Yes , can order from Dell Online (use chat button to negotiate).
Re-sellers in LYN garage sales threads also carry this model (can COD)
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Thanks nexus2238..

So vostro 5270 it is..

So how much does a 8Gb ddr3L cost roughly? And any specific brand that is recommended? I've looked through the price lists..but I can't seem to find any.

Also, I can't seem to fine price lists for parts in the low yat website anymore unlike previously..just wondering how much is a SSD...but I won't go to that anyway..a few seconds extra boot time won't kill me..besides, I will already have the extra unused ram lying around...I don't want to waste my money having unused parts lying around..and besides, I always have backups of my files..so if the HDD is to go out one day, maybe by then they'll have cheaper bigger SSDs..lol

But for now, I'm really curious about the ram...I'm unable to go to lowyat or anything..as I'm actually overseas right now.

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post Sep 23 2013, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(shawnme @ Sep 23 2013, 06:49 PM)
Thanks nexus2238..

So vostro 5270 it is..

So how much does a 8Gb ddr3L cost roughly? And any specific brand that is recommended?

Also, I can't seem to fine price lists for parts in the low yat website anymore unlike previously..just wondering how much is a SSD...but I won't go to that anyway..a few seconds extra boot time won't kill me..besides, I will already have the extra unused ram lying around...I don't want to waste my money having unused parts lying around..and besides, I always have backups of my files..so if the HDD is to go out one day, maybe by then they'll have cheaper bigger SSDs..lol

But for now, I'm really curious about the ram...I'm unable to go to lowyat or anything..as I'm actually overseas right now.
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The price list in LYN is at the same old place, the menu bar hmm.gif
http://www.lowyat.net/

8GB DDR3L RAM is ~ RM250-300. (btw, just make sure you said 1.35V)
SSD 128GB is ~ RM300-350.

I'll think the SSD will give you a bigger boost in user experience compared to more RAM. Not just boot time, but generally all the file and data access / saving (consider your Excel file size, make a difference when you open and save the files), page file (if user don't disable), all become a lot snappier.
But yes, SSD price is falling fast. Now I generally go for 256GB SSD at ~ RM600. 2 years ago that wouldn't get a good 64GB SSD. In 5 years, I fully expect the same RM600 will get us a 1TB SSD thumbup.gif


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post Sep 23 2013, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Sep 23 2013, 07:53 PM)
The price list in LYN is at the same old place, the menu bar  hmm.gif
http://www.lowyat.net/

8GB DDR3L RAM is ~ RM250-300. (btw, just make sure you said 1.35V)
SSD 128GB is ~ RM300-350.

I'll think the SSD will give you a bigger boost in user experience compared to more RAM. Not just boot time, but generally all the file and data access / saving (consider your Excel file size, make a difference when you open and save the files), page file (if user don't disable), all become a lot snappier.
But yes, SSD price is falling fast. Now I generally go for 256GB SSD at ~ RM600. 2 years ago that wouldn't get a good 64GB SSD. In 5 years, I fully expect the same RM600 will get us a 1TB SSD  thumbup.gif
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Wow...good reference..

If the price is almost the same..and based on what you said..the SSD is definitely more worth it

So if I get the SSD, I just simply replace the current hard disk..correct?
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QUOTE(shawnme @ Sep 23 2013, 08:20 PM)
So if I get the SSD, I just simply replace the current hard disk..correct?
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Yes.
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Guys, i'm still hovering around for a laptop. previously i was looking at vostro 4560, then 4570.

Then recently found samsung ativ book 9 lite @ RM1999. altho it comes with amd quad processor, it also includes 128 ssd. batt life is also supposedly better at 4-4.5 hours. weight 1.44kg. startup 8 sec, snooze wakeup 2 sec.
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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Sep 23 2013, 04:03 PM)
Don't understand your questions smile.gif
If you mean if user could upgrade SSD for HDD and increase RAM to 8GB aftermarket, then obviously yes.
If you mean if Dell has any option for potential buyer to customise during purchase, in certain markets, it has spec that come with 128G SSD + 8GB RAM, just not in Malaysia yet tongue.gif
http://item.jd.com/973233.html

W8SL has no problem with SSD or 8GB RAM  laugh.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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"actually the 5470 is able to upgrade to 8GB but the window can't detect it, so there is no point to upgrade as it will be waste of money"

i got this directly from their Dell agent rclxub.gif

his reason is that "it's just that the 5460 & 5470 is built in this way as this is the limitation for it"; "if your peers has 5460 that can support 8GB then he is lucky for it" doh.gif

sifu any idea if he's BS-ing?

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