QUOTE(nottiworks @ Jan 12 2017, 01:53 PM)
its all down to black and white... in your SPA, did they mentioned anything such as api air ready by the time u VP? haha....M Residence 2, Review and status
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QUOTE(nottiworks @ Jan 12 2017, 01:53 PM) Read your SPA carefully. It read utilities ready for connection if not mistaken... Even though most developers already have water/ electricity meter/ fius already connected when VP but MahSing legally/ obligation wise nothing wrong with the way they handover. |
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Jan 12 2017, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(nottiworks @ Jan 12 2017, 01:53 PM) MS are not wrong. It is written clearly in SPA that VP can be done with the house "READY" for connection. However, professionally and ethically, MS should not even allow this to happen. So much for so called Top10 developers. |
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Jan 12 2017, 04:43 PM
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as I explained very clearly above, its the TNB that changed their work procedures that caught most developers off guard.
its not only MS has problem give api and air before vp. go survey every single vped landed projects in klang valley this year and verify how many of those projects managed to vp with air and api... |
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Jan 12 2017, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 12 2017, 04:43 PM) as I explained very clearly above, its the TNB that changed their work procedures that caught most developers off guard. yup, it is not MS problem. But reputation and public perspective is important, isn't it?its not only MS has problem give api and air before vp. go survey every single vped landed projects in klang valley this year and verify how many of those projects managed to vp with air and api... |
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Jan 12 2017, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 12 2017, 04:49 PM) even Setia eco glades when they vped their link terraces also no api. Nope, because they are smart in marketing and branding. Where else, MS public perception - shitty buildup, bad design, chinaman company. you think their share prices took a nose dive? Which house do not have defects? Case 1: House by MS Shitty house, got so many defects. PM of MS did not check properly. Bad QC. Stupid architect design to put a pipe there. VP without Api and Air, complain!! Case 2: House by another super reputable developer It is common lar. Contractor's fault. Not developer's fault. VP without Api and Air, aiyah, TNB and Syabas fault lar. They need money lar to connect. See the common replies in MS and other threads?? I am not saying you are wrong and you do not have to be so defensive... all I am saying is human mindset. |
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Jan 12 2017, 06:11 PM
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If project teams coordinate well there wont be serious delay in utilities supply. Birch vp for more than two months but still no api. If one month delay still consider acceptable. And now still dont know when can get api.
Developer always use Ready for connection to escape from their obligation. Go find out the cause of delay. Then u will know the interesting answer. This post has been edited by blibala: Jan 14 2017, 12:59 AM |
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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Jan 12 2017, 04:55 PM) Nope, because they are smart in marketing and branding. Where else, MS public perception - shitty buildup, bad design, chinaman company. Its ok de...i dont hold grunge.Which house do not have defects? Case 1: House by MS Shitty house, got so many defects. PM of MS did not check properly. Bad QC. Stupid architect design to put a pipe there. VP without Api and Air, complain!! Case 2: House by another super reputable developer It is common lar. Contractor's fault. Not developer's fault. VP without Api and Air, aiyah, TNB and Syabas fault lar. They need money lar to connect. See the common replies in MS and other threads?? I am not saying you are wrong and you do not have to be so defensive... all I am saying is human mindset. At least mr2 is not overpriced (if u get in earlier) and its 'better' than i expected..... At least they didnt promised heaven and earth w smart marketing and colorful brochure. |
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QUOTE(blibala @ Jan 12 2017, 06:11 PM) If project teams coordinate well there wont be serious delay in utilities supply. Birch vp for more than two months but still no api. If one month delay still consider acceptable. And now still dont know when can get api. what's the cause? Developer always use Ready for connection to escape from their obligation. Go find out the cause of delay. Then u will know the interesting answer. |
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QUOTE(blibala @ Jan 13 2017, 09:25 AM) later i kena Means who wrong?But you can sit down and think back. Why alpine delay for so many months? When everyone said TNB caused the delay, then why shud MS kept quiet and willing to pay LAD? There must be somewhere wrong in between. MS clever not include tnb in VP so if tnb delay2 they dont kena LAD due to other party not efficient? |
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QUOTE(blackagez @ Jan 11 2017, 03:12 PM) Any Caspia owner here ? I heard the same news from my agent too~ if according to latest letter sent by them, my next step is wait them complete electric, water and pass key to me to get the next 12.5% money from bank. I heard we will get key somewhere around June 2017 instead of March 2017 ? any update ? And do you all have any Caspia whatsapp group to share information? |
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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Jan 12 2017, 09:16 AM) And do you all have any Caspia whatsapp group to share information? And what is LAD? |
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Jan 14 2017, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(zacharytong @ Jan 14 2017, 09:09 AM) i heard from my agent last month, but if according to latest letter sent by them, my next step is wait them complete electric, water and pass key to me to get the next 12.5% money from bank. LAD - liquidated ascertained damages (Damages paid due to developer's failure to complete the house on time written (individual - 2 years, strata - 3 years)And do you all have any Caspia whatsapp group to share information? And what is LAD? No, I am not aware of any Whatsapp group for Caspia alone. |
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Jan 14 2017, 09:47 PM
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How is the key handover and defect checking going on guys ?
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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Jan 14 2017, 12:03 PM) LAD - liquidated ascertained damages (Damages paid due to developer's failure to complete the house on time written (individual - 2 years, strata - 3 years) not only caspia, if have any m residence 2 whatsapp group also can invite me~No, I am not aware of any Whatsapp group for Caspia alone. |
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How is the lake there? Curious to know how Mahsing upgrade works on the lake there. Surely will benefit MR2 residemce and ppls nearby.
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