QUOTE(lowpro @ Feb 16 2013, 09:25 AM)
i guess sales is slow because potential new owners are shying away due to the scary stories told mainly by the 308T 4-speed owners. it is a fact though that the 4-speeder needs more tlc than the succeeding models but still, the market has come to accept that perception as reality. it will be very hard to change that perception already even with good pricing and specification for the 408.
imho, the only way to change that perception is for this group to stand up and say, "there are no issues with our cars". do note, whatever posted on the internet is seen worldwide. and if people worldwide can see the posts, what more malaysia? to a large extent, the public outcry by 308T 4-speed owners against the cars they bought and against the company that sells those cars has hurt the owners even more. trying to get the company's attention is one thing (there are proper ways to do it) but hurting resale values is another that they never thought would happen. it is a fact and it is happening right now. go ask any used car dealer whether they would take in a 4-speed 308T or not and at how much would they take it in. then ask about the 6-speeder.
there's an old saying "don't air one's dirty laundry in public". The same applies here where dirty laundry has been aired and the public has seen and taken note of it. hopefully if you guys have issues with your cars, you would take it up with the seller discreetly. or if you need to post it, then post it online positively. see that vw owners rarely complain about their dsg riddled issues and other matters. likewise, bmw owners. they know the strength of the internet and they also know they will want to sell their cars off one day and they would want the market to readily accept a second hand unit. do think about what is posted. it has far reaching consequences. i'm not saying don't post the negatives. just post it in a way that you would want a potential buyer of your car a few years down the road to see that post of yours.
just my early morning 2-cents worth on the 'resale' matter, and the 'why so few 408 on the road' matter. in my condo there is a jetta, a focus but no 408. sad.
Yes i agree 100%. I told my K5 group the same thing. Some of them were very vocal about problems in the beginning although these problems were very minor e.g rattles, etc. I also told them that although the problems are very small, but it gives off the wrong vibes and for cars that dont enjoy the kind of brand loyalty like Toyota has, it can be extremely detrimental in the long run.
The problem that plagues most ppl is that they come online to complain but rarely come back to clarify remedial measures or positive experiences. Even in this thread you can see how many of the current owners are active compared to the days before they got their cars. They may only come back to complain but how many actually speak positively about their experiences? I see the same few names appearing. Even when they do speak positively, their comments are usually not valid comparisons e.g 'my 408 could go faster than a Passat 1.8TSI at the traffic light'. How do you expect ppl to have any faith in your positive experiences if you come up with statements like this.
Anyway, we all want the same thing which is too see more non Jap cars on the roads especially the likes of the Koreans and conti's. Its time to end the dominance of the Japanese especially Toyota and put more affordable, better spec'd and safer cars on the road.