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 4th Gen Nissan Serena Official discussion Thread, The Facelift is here, from RM138k

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feelfree
post Aug 19 2013, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Frustrated Customers @ Aug 17 2013, 08:05 PM)
I ordered a Nissan Serena 2 weeks before Raya. cool2.gif  And had a very very bad experience with the way Nissan manage its sales services and customers.
Firstly, I was offered to trade in my Myvi at RM17K. Then I found out that other branches are offering me 21 - 23K. Hence, I ordered for sales cancellation at this branch, so that I can order from other brance. After 2 days of processing, this branch offered me 23K. OK I ACCEPTED. AND Very regret on this decision doh.gif .

Following this, the branch sales person told me that CIMB always offer the lowest interest rate. After a week, I was informed that the offered rate is 2.59%. I was really frus that time, I personnaly call Affin bank Perak branch manager to check (A friend), he is offering 2.39% to the customer!  mad.gif  With all this hazzels and reapplication for the finance aid, my order had been delayed till after Raya.

Meantime, they told me that my prefered plat no is very hard to get, better to get runner for JPJ registeration. So I decided to work it out myself, and in just 1 hour, I get my prefered platno by only paying RM310, instead of RM360.

Now, the best part, when I am ready to handover my car and pick up my new serena, I FOUND OUT my car is in the showroom, serves as a showroom car, publicly view by the customers  cry.gif . All the internal mats and carpets are covered with sand and foot print. Even worst, the plastic cover for the seats are removed! I cannot imagine a new car I paid, RM149K of a car, is like a used car inside!

Guess what the management of that branch told me? "We have insufficient place to keep your car, if you are not happy to put the car inside as showroom car, we have to put it outside, where it is open to the risk of scartches, hot sun and rain."

It was a horrible experience that I can ever get with Nissan's sales services. I made complains to the branch manager, sales manager, and at the end do some shoutings vmad.gif  at the sales office and phone calls.

Now the last message that I got was, I will be getting a new, another car, with the offered kits (GPS and reverse camera). Let's see how.
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Bro, you really been cheated by that branch when they told you your Myvi worth that much, because they can cover back the Myvi overtrade price from the CIMB bank loan which is higher the interest compare to other bank. (CIMB will usually give back incentives to the sales branch that successfully applied a loan from them) So when you go to get loan from other bank, there's the problem, who is going to pay back the overtrade Myvi..., and that's why they delayed the car, and then don't know where they found a showroom car for you, really pissed off. Please tell us which branch you got all these problem, warn other forummers beware this branch when dealing with them!
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post Aug 19 2013, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(sianglee @ Aug 19 2013, 12:16 AM)
Its almost identical to the NV 200 van , thats the result of nissan cost savings strategy, too much items shared over the same platform.......
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The Serena is sharing the same platform with NV200 is because they want to keep the cost down, just like VW, almost all the car is sharing the same platform, then will you say "I paid 300K of price, I don't want this car got share any platform with Polo or Golf or Jetta..."

As for sonyman case, I don't know how you see the Alphard, yes maybe it is bigger, but doesn't the Alphard look more like a bigger van when you said the Serena is look like a van, but anywhere you got your own choice, for me I won't buy any re-cond car anymore after the bad experience with my previous Estima. This car only last less than 2 years time with me and I have spent more than RM30k just for repair, keep giving me problem non-stop every couple of months, new spare parts availability also very limited and the worse part is very hard to find a knowledgeable workshop to repair this kind of re-cond car, even if you found one, they will really charge you the like Mercedes, BMW kind of price! Sonyman, if can find a van with proper local distributor with warranty, if not you will really regret, unless you really can find a problem-free re-cond Estima or Alphard, then go ahead.
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post Aug 19 2013, 10:53 AM

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thank you for the advise. i will reconsider. But it is just that MPV of this kind is kind of limited. So i would prefer to buy new with warranty to get a piece of mind. But i have never owned a recond unit.

I just keep thinking, toyota car should be long lasting mah. parts should be easy to find. like Vios, never break down one. Then again. maybe i might not buy any at all.

Probably just go get myself a Kia sorento. Will See.

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post Aug 19 2013, 11:57 AM

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Imagine our Serena looks so good when kitted with Impul bodykit, the performance parts are so tempting as well..

http://www.impul.co.jp/products/model/C26_SERENA_E.html
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Aug 19 2013, 11:35 AM)
The Serena is sharing the same platform with NV200 is because they want to keep the cost down, just like VW, almost all the car is sharing the same platform, then will you say "I paid 300K of price, I don't want this car got share any platform with Polo or Golf or Jetta..."

As for sonyman case, I don't know how you see the Alphard, yes maybe it is bigger, but doesn't the Alphard look more like a bigger van when you said the Serena is look like a van, but anywhere you got your own choice, for me I won't buy any re-cond car anymore after the bad experience with my previous Estima. This car only last less than 2 years time with me and I have spent more than RM30k just for repair, keep giving me problem non-stop every couple of months, new spare parts availability also very limited and the worse part is very hard to find a knowledgeable workshop to repair this kind of re-cond car, even if you found one, they will really charge you the like Mercedes, BMW kind of price! Sonyman, if can find a van with proper local distributor with warranty, if not you will really regret, unless you really can find a problem-free re-cond Estima or Alphard, then go ahead.
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Aug 19 2013, 10:35 AM)
The Serena is sharing the same platform with NV200 is because they want to keep the cost down, just like VW, almost all the car is sharing the same platform, then will you say "I paid 300K of price, I don't want this car got share any platform with Polo or Golf or Jetta..."
Brother, Polo and Golf and Jetta are not same segment, all having different width, thread and wheel base .
Not like Nissan all Latio, Sylphy, NV200 , Grand Livina, Xgear and Serena all ridiculously same width, thread and suspension system even they are being sold at different car segment market.

QUOTE(feelfree @ Aug 19 2013, 10:35 AM)
Sonyman, if can find a van with proper local distributor with warranty, if not you will really regret, unless you really can find a problem-free re-cond Estima or Alphard, then go ahead.
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Alright you just buy NV200/Hiace and spent 50k for adding accessories then you can get MPV called "van with proper local distributor with warranty" loh.

This post has been edited by sianglee: Aug 19 2013, 12:20 PM
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(JazzSerena @ Aug 19 2013, 09:32 AM)
Reason why there is no audio on steering wheel because Tan Chong Subsidiary are the one installing their own Radio/Navigation system. Japan cannot because all japanese.
The audio system is made by a local subsidiary owned by Tan Chong.  No brand.
The Free Navigation of  is not because they give free but because the car came without the Player.
You try ask whether they can exclude the free audio, my bet is they say cannot smile.gif

For 3,300 after market brand would be like Pioneer quality. 
Is Tan Chong so good with their sound system?
Probably they just import a China sound system and put their name on it.

Typical.. hope they buy the best quality "Chinese" brand  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Heard from the SA the original Serena launching plan is with normal CD player and sold at RM 147k .
RM 149k-RM147k diff is only 2k niah, how can this Navigation system worth RM3,300 is a real myth oh.
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post Aug 19 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(sianglee @ Aug 19 2013, 01:26 PM)
Heard from the SA the original Serena launching plan is with normal CD player and sold at RM 147k .
RM 149k-RM147k diff is only 2k niah, how can this Navigation system worth  RM3,300 is a real myth oh.
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mr sianglee, i notice u start hammering this serena and TC even before it was launch!! why u hate TC this much??!?
no offence, I just wondering only biggrin.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(frank76 @ Aug 19 2013, 01:23 PM)
mr sianglee, i notice u start hammering this serena and TC even before it was launch!! why u hate TC this much??!?
no offence, I just wondering only biggrin.gif
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simple analogy here and please vare with me...anyone have a better example are free to share.

some people like to tim sum
some like roti cani
some like nasi lemak.

question.. can we say people who eat roti canai not so smart because its make from flour and its cheap? or
its right to say people who eat time sum is dumb as 3.80 - 4.50 per set is way too expensive as you can make your more of your own tim sum with the amount of money?

to these people who are very price sensitive, its always best for them to prepare thier own food or make thier own car, there is nothing in the world which can satisfied their want and needs. smile.gif .

P/s: people who drive 1940's car and use PLUS highway, do they need to pay toll?
another person who ride a harley using same highway, do they pay toll? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(frank76 @ Aug 19 2013, 01:23 PM)
mr sianglee, i notice u start hammering this serena and TC even before it was launch!! why u hate TC this much??!?
no offence, I just wondering only biggrin.gif
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Not specific reason just really disappointed with what TC offered to malaysian as such well reputable brand since many years back. My dad owns old old sunny, I have a Grand Livina too. I'm not hating TC but want to voice out the disaapointment that they are no longer offering the kind worth for money car for normal family ...
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post Aug 19 2013, 02:54 PM

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na not just tan chong umw as well, all the same, only lately honda M reduce price. plus honda worldwide the safety has improved.

Toyota still trying to resolve their GOA body, or what so ever they call it. Probably the design and BOM are from the 60's, thats why the Camry fail safety test this time. Same goes with PRius and the Lexus bunch as well.

So Sianglee, i know how you feel, you want to buy, but the spec we get you comparing with other choices, thats why you feel like this.

Can you ask your dad, during his time. when buying a Car what do they look for, or what is their priority?

Today, priority has changed. Brand probably may not be the main factor anymore.

So it is very jumbled up confusing market. Each sales fellow trying to confuse you. if you dont read F&F, Sianglee, i think you will not think Serena or TC and UMW is ripping you off. Because you are more educated now, thats why you will start to compare. Thats why you are not happy.


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post Aug 19 2013, 03:32 PM

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Hi guys,

I was told there were two batches of Serena SH From Japan.
The first batch is 500 units and the second batch is 2000 units.
Would anyone believe that all 2,500 units had been taken up? and TC now thinking of whether to order more or local assemble?

Dunno how true hmm.gif

That is why people who wants order now should either wait for people to cancel or wait for following order from Japan.
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QUOTE(sianglee @ Aug 19 2013, 12:18 PM)
Brother, Polo and Golf and Jetta are not same segment, all having different width,  thread and wheel base .
Not like Nissan all Latio, Sylphy, NV200 , Grand Livina, Xgear and Serena all ridiculously same width,  thread  and suspension system even they are being sold at different car segment market.
Alright you just buy NV200/Hiace and spent 50k for adding accessories  then you can get MPV called "van with proper local distributor with warranty" loh.
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Dude I don't know what are you trying to tell here, what different segment lar and same segment lar. Nissan Serena width is wider than Latio/Sylphy even sharing the same platform. VW also doing the same way, from Golf up to Sharan, even the Audi A3, VW Tiguan and Touran also sharing the VW A5 platform, any problem? Nissan limit the width to under 1700mm is because of Japanese Tax exemption rules. Nissan if the model not intended for Japanese market, like the Qashqai and Juke both also having wider wheelbase even also sharing the same platform with Latio/Sylphy/X-Gear/Grand Livina....

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post Aug 19 2013, 05:09 PM

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Eh why you guys never consider the Hyundai Starex or Ssangyong Stavic?
Good MPVs what? Got space, power, low FC, manufacturer warranty.
Or is it because you insist on Japs?
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post Aug 19 2013, 06:27 PM

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No car can fulfil all needs. I agree with Feel Free... lets keep other cars out of this forum smile.gif
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QUOTE(AmenoJaku @ Aug 19 2013, 05:09 PM)
Eh why you guys never consider the Hyundai Starex or Ssangyong Stavic?
Good MPVs what? Got space, power, low FC, manufacturer warranty.
Or is it because you insist on Japs?
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not really a fan of this ssangyong brand, last time had experience with Rexton, bloody sucks, though it feels luxury.
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hi i wanna ask the onwers, Can your smart key open the 2 back doors? i was told just now that it cannot open, i believe the sales person dont know anything.


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post Aug 19 2013, 09:39 PM

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Alright mr feelfree you may got your point somewhere. Im not here to bash any car or product but to share what i feel and noticed.

undeniable Serena is nice in certain aspect,like the new 2.0 dual cvtc engine. It does deliver nissan's strength in building refined, smooth and quiet engine.
I just don like the interior and wrong positioned price tag by TC.

And Im not here to promte any other brand, otherwise someone may think that im the famous mr J who always attack nissan products.

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post Aug 19 2013, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Aug 19 2013, 10:15 AM)
Bro, you really been cheated by that branch when they told you your Myvi worth that much, because they can cover back the Myvi overtrade price from the CIMB bank loan which is higher the interest compare to other bank. (CIMB will usually give back incentives to the sales branch that successfully applied a loan from them) So when you go to get loan from other bank, there's the problem, who is going to pay back the overtrade Myvi..., and that's why they delayed the car, and then don't know where they found a showroom car for you, really pissed off.  Please tell us which branch you got all these problem, warn other forummers beware this branch when dealing with them!
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Now, I definitely agree with your point of view. They definitely did not expect that I will do detail pricing comparison.
Today, I have received call from Nissan HQ for the follow up. i had made my declaration that they are either cancel my sales, or transfer my sales order to other branch (which I think impossible, so I guess I will get my sales order cancel)

At the same time, this branch sales person call me up, she offered me an exchange for a brand new car with hers another customer, who is not able to pick up the car yet. Hmmm...., well. I did not ask what will happen to this existing Serena ......from the way how the management behave, they will clean the car and sell to others as new one..MY GUESS ONLY.

When talking to her, she told me that putting customer's car as showroom view is normal practice in her branch. So, that car is really a new car, but the branch wanna save money on purchasing a showroom car whereby the cost is bear by themselves. (She told me each branch had to purchase their own showroom car, or share it with other branches)

I will reveal the branch location once the Nissan HQ return to me with decision . Stay tune... I m practicing my patient over Nissan, and not sure when it will burst.
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QUOTE(mc_groven @ Aug 19 2013, 11:57 AM)
Imagine our Serena looks so good when kitted with Impul bodykit, the performance parts are so tempting as well..

http://www.impul.co.jp/products/model/C26_SERENA_E.html
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Don't think Nissan will bring them in, although it looks so tempting...

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