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post Mar 16 2006, 12:24 PM, updated 20y ago

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hmm my dad ask me to pick up this course but i know nuts about it

anyone knows what they do n the average salary working in this line

working hours, career prospect, difficullties, salary, requirements? all n all

i need help sad.gif

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post Mar 16 2006, 03:20 PM

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aircraft maintenance engineer?
log on MAS webby to get the infomation ^^
abt this job u need to obtain a license from DCA and you will be called as LAME-licensed aircraft maintenance engineer.
salary ard 7K if not mistaken
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post Mar 16 2006, 04:27 PM

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its a very good prospect for the job you know. im currently studying at MIAT which providing courses in this field. when you get the licensed you can work all over the world. but you need to do it step by step. the first licensed is LWTR(licensed without type rating), this licensed can categorized into 3.A-Airframe,C-Engine,X-Avionics(R-Radio,I-Instruments,E-Electrical).you can choose which tread you like. if you are malay you can apply for Malaysian Institute of Aviation Technology or you also can apply for TAME program under MAS. and you also can find out a pro courses conducted by APR in TTDI shah alam.
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post Mar 16 2006, 10:59 PM

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hey dude im a miat student also dude huhuhhh should i say x miat student huhuhuhu just finish taking my LWTR exam tadi huhuhhuhuh....actually its wasnt that hard as people said but heheheheh i study so so so is kinda hard huhuhuu...just pray i pass it weh what batch u from dude..

yah this job is great the work is chalengging n working with aircraft is sure fun but this job need a lot of patient because in order to get to the top need to do a lot of training n exam(LWTR..type rating n bla bla ....).. this industry promise a great future for u but is hard ..huhuhu saw some of the LAE in MAS having 4-5 k per month for fresh LAE .....huhu usually oversea LAE got better deal....imagine working with Emirates huhuuhhuh drool.gif drool.gif the money huhuhhuhuhu


p/s: MAS is one of the lowest pay u can get for an LAE huhhuhhu but is good for ur stepping stone they give a lot of training for their people biggrin.gif
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minimum requirement ppl? u guys have been giving a great green light for me ^^ i guess it might just be it
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post Mar 17 2006, 12:32 AM

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oh how to join?? FYI: i am 25yrold. huh.gif

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post Mar 17 2006, 12:39 AM

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Well i did study aircraft mech in shah alam n already finish it almost 1 year back...but i still haven look for a job...now im still working as a part time...hurmm...
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Does "aircraft maintenance" is part of the mechanical engineering courses ? If so , how do get the LWTR license ? ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(gr44 @ Mar 17 2006, 12:39 AM)
Well i did study aircraft mech in shah alam n already finish it almost 1 year back...but i still haven look for a job...now im still working as a part time...hurmm...
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ermm u mean its hard to get a job?
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post Mar 17 2006, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(silllver @ Mar 17 2006, 12:32 AM)
oh how to join?? FYI: i am 25yrold. huh.gif
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as for u u need to get the MAS apperentice LAE program it usually required diploma student or degree to apply for the program from there u will given the proper training to become a full fledge LAE.. i think for MAS trainee is about 4 - 3 years training ...

As for the LWTR exam in order to take the exam u need at least 4 years of experience in aviation industry before this is shorter but due to the new AN in issue 9 the regulation for applying to become LAE become more stirct. remember in order to become LAE u need experience..in these field diploma n degree arent any good they judge u by the license u hold ....this just apply to malaysia for other country is different huhuhhhhhuh biggrin.gif
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i guess u really need to be patient and learn things step by step. My front door neighbour, he has become aircraft pilot instructor oready...but he more than 20yrs in MAS. His salary..around 20k now biggrin.gif .

I guess if u can wait and reap the benefits, its ok then smile.gif
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yup these thing is hard to get but once u get it from what i seen is really worht it huhhhuhu imagine the stewardess huhhuh just kiding
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Mar 16 2006, 10:59 PM)
hey dude im a miat student also dude huhuhhh should  i say x miat student  huhuhuhu just finish taking my LWTR exam tadi huhuhhuhuh....actually its wasnt that hard as people said but heheheheh i study so so so is kinda hard huhuhuu...just pray i pass it weh what batch u from dude..

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woaahhh u almost become my lecturer dude weh easy la for me to get yuecchi huhhuhhhhhuhuh....
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First of all, I am getting graduating in the end of May as an Electronic Engineer.

Well, it's always be my dream to work in aviation field but I have given up on been a pilot. So anyone mind to give me an idea, what should i do now if I am planning to go in for the aircraft maintainance programme with having already an degree in my hand ?
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post Mar 17 2006, 06:54 PM

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My "brother-in-law" was an aircraft engineer with MAS 2+years back. He then applied for pilot for SIA and got it. Quit terus from MAS and went on to becoming a pilot. Now he's a first officer.

But he has to pay back money due to contract mumbo jumbo. But good life now he has.
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diploma/degree in what??
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post Mar 17 2006, 08:33 PM

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in engineering im suppose mechanical / electrical .... Hey winds u can always try MAS as a choice try calling them .. i dont really know when is the intake for apperentice licensed aircraft engineering .... as for me due to my diploma qualification i entering MAS next month as a technician from there i will developt my self if cannot malaysia ..im thinking to take the licensed from uk or abroad i need to wait for my LTWR first la see if okay i stick doing in malaysia only .... the licensing is one of the complicated thing u need to understand before becoming an LAE.... i want too enter the apprentice program but i need to take 4-3 more years before taking LWTR as for now i used the qualification from miat to take the LWTR hope it will be okay huhuhhhhhhu so i can be an LAE as soon as possible n the prospect of me not bonding with MAS is nice ..after i got my licensed i can go to whatever airlines without any string attach with MAS huhuhhhuhuhh
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if you are so giat.. and work OT when ever there is chance...
i bet your salary is over RM10k... PER MONTH
just to sit in the office and take a look @ the plane when it arrive..
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QUOTE(WinDs @ Mar 17 2006, 05:23 PM)
First of all, I am getting graduating in the end of May as an Electronic Engineer.

Well, it's always be my dream to work in aviation field but I have given up on been a pilot. So anyone mind to give me an idea, what should i do now if I am planning to go in for the aircraft maintainance programme with having already an degree in my hand ?
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dont give up your piloting dream and continue it!!!
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yah i think teddie is right now it seem MAS like desperate for pilot keep seing add fro trainee pilot lately huhhuhh
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haa..mizi is my buddy n kabadi is my sr.. icon_rolleyes.gif

first of all..aviation is all about rules n regulation. as long as u follow what's written on the papers, u r as good as an aircraft engineer can be. 2nd, academic qualification dun matter much, experience is more valuable...at least for now. if u r fresh spm, dip, or deg in whatever things other than aviation specific course, u are as good as zero. age no matter i guess, as long as u willing to study a bit.

how to get in?
1. thru company training program. e.g mas academy. probably u secure urself a job after u get thru it. duration: 4-5 yrs to LWTR?
2. thru private training school. e.g. APR. not much idea, a few mths in course than u can work with any company sooner. once in company, collect experience n study to go for LAME. duration: 4-6 yrs to LWTR?
3. thru MIAT. u got a dip and things necessary to go for LAME. duration: 4 yrs (includes dip duration) to LWTR (if all goes well like kabadi)
4. there are other places but not much info.eg tafe college?

the trick is, LWTR require some work experience. but u cannot touch aircraft without any experience. and it's also an exam so u need to study for it. this is where the training program make or break u. one more thing, LWTR is *THE* license to get to become engineer, it's License Without Type Rating. no lesen needed if wana live as technician/mechanic for the rest of ur career.
correct me of any info here if im wrong,anybody...

p/s: hey kabadi, what trait u go for? A? C? wah..miat can mass produce LAME nowadays..me go 4 heli wink.gif


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for reference...

APR page
http://www.aeroprecision.com.my/training/main.htm
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QUOTE(kyan smile.gif @ Mar 16 2006, 12:24 PM)
hmm my dad ask me to pick up this course but i know nuts about it

anyone knows what they do n the average salary working in this line

working hours, career prospect, difficullties, salary, requirements? all n all

i need help  sad.gif
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If I were you, I will take up the course, this job earn big bucks especially when you work for commerical aircraft company.
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i dont know this is true but recently mas just advertise for tame programe... my farther said to me ... biggrin.gif come on people sent ur resume ..i will be reporting in mas in april huhhuhu.....yes this job promise big buck if...if u an LAE huhuhhuhhuhu tongue.gif

p/s:im going for 'c' for the last LWTR...heheheh im thinkin of changing my trait but i think recent EASA regulation required engineer to have degree n all the traits a ,c , and e ..... i thinkin of taking 'e' type at uk during my time at mas hhuhuhhuhuhuhhh... and after that taking part time degree at uk i think it just need to top up 1 year at uk jar 147 school to obtain the degree huhhuhhu but that just a plan hope it will come true.. wuyoo lestat u going for heli hmmm instresting aree u those guy that eurocopter sponsor???? notworthy.gif


heheheh correct me if im wrong tongue.gif want to sharpen my air legislation laugh.gif

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Hey i read thru the ARP page, since I have an electronic degree, I can apply for the so called TAME programme. It's going to take another 3 years to complete the course. Woh, that's like .. a long time for me ?

Anyway does MAS/Air Asia sponsor any students to go for the TAME programme ? Or how does MAS/Air Asia conduct their own programme ? Anyone hear of the GE group in Subang Airport ?
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yes mas / airasia do their own tame program .... mas do it at their place n airasia do it at apr if i not mistaken ..... as for GE is not consider an mro cause their main priority is engine not the whole aircraft .... working in GE is like working in a workshop ur main job is to overhaul parts n component n during ur time at ge u may not gather the work schedule that u need for lwtr huhuhhuhhh
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GE dont require a LAE... where there's an aircraft, LAE will be there. so they dont need one. to those who already got dip or degree, it's almost like starting all over again if u plan to be aircraft maintenance engineer. kabadi, i heard about degree requirement to be an engineer thing(under EASA), what kind of degree specifically? aircraft related? any engineering? does it mean it will be harder to be engineer when DCA embrace EASA standard?

enlight me anybody, is 3 yrs tame under APR just like MAS tame program? i mean work+study for 3 yrs? or just classes?

..and yeah, im one of the ppl offered by eurocopter. actually they just offer a job. maybe some courses here n there but sponsorship is not part of it..for now.. i think they still negotiating with mara or sumthing. not hoping much tho sweat.gif
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firstly.. i have absolute no idea why did u give up on Being a pilot...

mind telling sharing with us the reason

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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 25 2006, 05:50 PM)
firstly.. i have absolute no idea why did u give up on Being a pilot...

mind telling sharing with us the reason
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i think he's referrring to Winds. well, to some ppl, sitting on a small and stiff chair staring at some lcds for hours are...ermm..boring (haha..i won't JUST do that!). autopilot is doing most of the job, even auto landing approach on some aircraft. pilot are just backup system rolleyes.gif but those who become a pilot from an aircraft engineer would be a great advantage for them..especially if they're paid a lot. i would say pilot have bigger responsibility coz their decision especially at critical time affect the life of whole aircraft pax. imagine A380... sweat.gif
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juz sumthing that i got. for those interested to be pilot and aircraft engineer with MAS. dateline is 31 march. comes with steel chain bond though...normal la sweat.gif
Attached File  EngCadet_Pilot.pdf ( 138.32k ) Number of downloads: 941

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We get any allowance while undergoing the training program?
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with mas program, i think u do get allowance...or is it only allowance? try give them a call.
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wanna know more ??
i'm stidying aircraft maintainence diploma here !!!
this should be my final year !! hehe !!
pm me if u wanna know more!!

its a good carreer !!
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yo ah fong u study where dude.... to answer lestat question yap if dca apllied easa it will be harder cause u need a degree in order to be approved in engineering with the accompany of ur license of course huhuhhhuh...but to tell u the thruth if dca really applied easa sure take a long time to addapt the real thing even the fully JAR they havent utilize it yet( as u know dca is following british ) hehehe from my question during the lwtr session the question only referng to ano n bcar is kinda odd why DCA still question this eventhough our aviation world here is fast addapting new rule n regulation .... by the way do u know that if easa appliesd the oral section that has been fear by all the LWTR candidated will be no more u just need to answer question if im not mistaken is MCQ even esei will not be there from i know tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ckryan @ Mar 26 2006, 01:31 AM)
We get any allowance while undergoing the training program?
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if u do appen to be an apperentice for mas or airasia they wil give u allowance cause u are now consider to be their staff huhuhuhh..anyway just saw in the paper about the 3 years program i dont know i think this is private not involving any airlines sponsorship biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Lestat @ Mar 26 2006, 12:27 AM)
juz sumthing that i got. for those interested to be pilot and aircraft engineer with MAS. dateline is 31 march. comes with steel chain bond though...normal la sweat.gif
Attached File  EngCadet_Pilot.pdf ( 138.32k ) Number of downloads: 941

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huhu, i just know yesterday when my mom call. cry.gif
where can i get the form?
is it only once a year they offer?

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just send ur resume dude their is no need of form i guess huhuhuhh just send hhuhh uu before this i have applied using resume for the pilot program huhuh but that is history huhuhh
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yep,just send resume. dunno how many time they open for application. usually they are quite quiet about it. close relative with mas worker always know when they're opening. no wonder u can find a lot of family-tie worker there. no komen about that rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Mar 26 2006, 04:50 PM)
if u do appen to be an apperentice for mas or airasia they wil give u allowance cause u are now consider to be their staff huhuhuhh..anyway just saw in the paper about the 3 years program i dont know i think this is private not involving any airlines sponsorship  biggrin.gif
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How much allowance they will give?More than 2K?
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QUOTE(ckryan @ Mar 27 2006, 01:20 AM)
How much allowance they will give?More than 2K?
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haha.
duno how much exactly, but what i heard not even close to dat figure sweat.gif

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oh my god...if 2k sure MAS brankrupt earlier that right now huhuhuh if i not mistaken its started around rm 600 after a while it will rose to rm800 that is MAS if airasia i dont know...yup if u want to join MAS cable(org dalam) kinda a must unless u really good than u need a very gooood luck huhuhhuh
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Mar 27 2006, 08:03 AM)
yup if u want to join MAS cable(org dalam) kinda a must unless u really good than u need a very gooood luck huhuhhuh
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anybody here can help me? sweat.gif
im kinda interested with this intake tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fillet @ Mar 25 2006, 05:50 PM)
firstly.. i have absolute no idea why did u give up on Being a pilot...

mind telling sharing with us the reason
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First of all, I am wearing glasses for most of the time. Having 500 degrees on both of my eyes. But i think I can do laser to get it done.

Second, I believe it's a bit too late for me. I'm getting 24's and don't even think of studying anymore. Engineering is already a 5 years course for me and I don't wish to spend more time on it.

Third, I don't think my family will allow as I am the single son. And, I can't bear to see that all the allowances of these 5 years studies go to nothing in the end.

Well, I just like to wish everyone good luck. Since I miss the chance and wrong decision after I finish my SPM, personally I don't think I will get involved anymore in the aviation field.

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QUOTE(WinDs @ Mar 27 2006, 09:19 PM)
First of all, I am wearing glasses for most of the time. Having 500 degrees on both of my eyes. But i think I can do laser to get it done.

Second, I believe it's a bit too late for me. I'm getting 24's and don't even think of studying anymore. Engineering is already a 5 years course for me and I don't wish to spend more time on it.

Third, I don't think my family will allow as I am the single son. And, I can't bear to see that all the allowances of these 5 years studies go to nothing in the end.

Well, I just like to wish everyone good luck. Since I miss the chance and wrong decision after I finish my SPM, personally I don't think I will get involved anymore in the aviation field.
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shocking.gif if u feel that way than dun look back. c what u can do with wad u have ^^
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WinDs.

i myself is wearing 425 degrees each each with AStigmatism of 150/175 degrees each eye....

R: -4.25D -1.75D
L: -4.25D -1.50D

i have a DCA Malaysia Class-1 Medical CErtificate. no LASIK needed..

Even if u did LASER.,.. they will still look at your Required Power before you did the laser..

no Diff.. if you're 500 degrees, after LASER... they still will look at the 500 degrees. it's called Pre-OP Limit
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QUOTE(WinDs @ Mar 27 2006, 09:19 PM)
First of all, I am wearing glasses for most of the time. Having 500 degrees on both of my eyes. But i think I can do laser to get it done.

Second, I believe it's a bit too late for me. I'm getting 24's and don't even think of studying anymore. Engineering is already a 5 years course for me and I don't wish to spend more time on it.

Third, I don't think my family will allow as I am the single son. And, I can't bear to see that all the allowances of these 5 years studies go to nothing in the end.

Well, I just like to wish everyone good luck. Since I miss the chance and wrong decision after I finish my SPM, personally I don't think I will get involved anymore in the aviation field.
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WinDs,we have the same thought. biggrin.gif
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huhuhuh same as me at first though of becoming one ...but glases and the life u spend when become a pilot had given me another thought hhhuhuhhuh
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yo anybody want to become one LAE try applying to MAS right now ...
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for me, pilot is not really a dream job. most job has been taken over by computer. pilots are merely standby+backup system most of the time. even if im a pilot now, i'll get bored easily. think about thousands u owed to airlines for ur pilot training and 10-20 years of carreer u gonna have to live with... unless u love to be a pilot so much:P
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LESTAT...

i believe you don't know what is a pilot's job....;

do some research...

AS an example..

let's say a B744 taking off during a hot day..


the Flaps settings is different..

the VR speed is different.. the Take-off(V2) speed is different...

and the pilot must also consider the weight of the plane that particular day on whether to Take-off at a much higher speed, or takingoff at a slower speed...

ALL this cannot be done by the computer...]'

EVERY TAKE-OFF and Landing, the pilot employs different strategy to suit the Current Weather and conditions like WIND.. weight... temperature...

so don't think a pilot can be replaced with computer.. perhaps you should do more research LESTAT...........
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Let's say KLIA is on fire..... every plane has to be diverted to Penang or Langkawi.........................

a plane destined for KLIA has just taken off from Heathrow(London), the flight will take 12-hours........... 30 minutes into flight, receive reports that KLIA is on FIRE.

the pilot must decide on whether to continue flying to Penang, or cancel and return to London.

If the Plane reaches Penang 12 hours later, they would already be Many planes lining up to LAND after being diverted from KLIA. so if this plane comes in from London 12 hours later and Queue Up to Land(maybe got 30 planes queuing up).... does this plane HAS enough fuel until their turn to LAND???this plane might have to Circle penang airport for 1 hour until their turn to land....

If the plane was fueled up for a 13 hours endurance....... do you thinking the pilot would take the risk? fly to penang after 12 hours , with 1 hour of fuel left.. lining up to LAND.....

can this be done by computer?

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The application for TAME in MAS has reached its due date... Can I still apply for it? tongue.gif
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fillet, all informations including V1, VR and V2 are calculated by FMC. Pilots are there to feed the infos into the FMCs. That is, at least for newer avionics and I think MOST airliners are equipped with that, including the B747-400s. Vee speeds are effected by weight on board, wind condition, runway slope, flaps setting and isnt really viable if calculated by pilots.
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Only take off needs to be taken care by the pilot because it is illegal to engage autopilot until 200 feets off the ground. Provided the suitable equipments are available, planes are autolanded unless of course, if the pilot want to practise a manual landing. Computers handle landings much better than humans, if airport condition is bad, such as low visibility and strong crosswind, autolanding is highly recommended.

Pilots are meant to be flight managers and a fail safe in case the computers gone haywire. They arent going to be replaced any time soon. But well, their workload had been significantly decreased. There arent really much thing to do except setting up computers, checklists, monitoring intruments and writing reports.

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hmm.. really ah????


really enlghten me.. i really dunno landing can be done automatically... certainly.. i haven't seen them....


BTW what's the piece of paper in every flight that tells pilot How to approach the intended airport? like coming in from what altitude... which angle..


also deathwing, are u a pilot? u seem to be very knowledgeble

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sure can be done automatically, anything can be done nowadays maaa!
they got ILS,GS,LOC and many new stuff. no need to worry. by the way im also a pilot dreamer but what lestat wrote. need to remember 75% from all the accidents were caused by human error,and some places still not authorise any auto landing.
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this one i knoe... if you are hardworking... u can earn more than 10k per month including OT.

then got sometime people will offer you contract about few million US dollar to work in India or Indonesia.. or sometihng like that... contract bound for few years...
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its a very new industry in Malaysia and need a lot of people to run it and you still at the beginning stages where the industry still new and on the long run it will become bigger and bigger because for example Miat just signed up and MOU with 8 different company that wanted all their graduated students.
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huhhuhhu yup we at miat right now a lucky i cant stop attending interview from the aviation industry..... if only the were better airlines than MAS in malaysia
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we, maintenance people always have fight with the pilots laugh.gif just joking..
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wow !!
anybody studying aircraft maintainence ??
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aircraft maintenance very easy lor...
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how u know its easy............... ure an lae i presume.......or lame guy try to act ....hhuhuhhh nevermind ... doh.gif

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honestly, it's easy.
unless u r oredi in the industry,learning thru experience, u gonna need more effort. now we got school locally for that. and u got a cert or dip even degree(coming soon i guess) u dun get this at airlines academy(instead u got bonds). academic qualification+LAME = $$$+respect
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hmmmmm easy hmmmm..everythin is esy if have determination huhhuhuuu
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by the way to learn the basic a&p is quite easy lah, but to acquire the license may a bit difficult(a lot to read) but it can be done and not like what we heard like its a rocket sciene!LoL

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one thing must bear in mind, skills come with experience!
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huhu this thread is 4 cus im a miat sem3 student
1 year ++ OJT
Yo kabadi84 where r I shud go for OJT? rclxub.gif

ps:/ lectturer said ur batch performance is realy good la...half of you pass LWTR rclxms.gif

izzit true?
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aahahahhahahah ...no lar the half only brave enough to go to take the exam ...huhuhuh by the way what are u in to...airoplane or heli ..if heli i heartd euroxcopter is a nice place ..for line n base aircraft maintenance i really say mas is the best ..but miat student have a slight history there ..huhuhuh

because everything is there only u will determined whether to learn or not ..huhuhhh just went back from my safety class..at mas trainig school huhuhuhuh
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now you can choose a wide variety of places that u can go for ojt.just mention it. so ask yourself where u want togo. even outside klang valley. good luck..

Anyone have anymore opinion

malaysia need around 10000 worker in aviation industry for the next 5 years

a new aviation training center was opened at pahang (MATA) and this will make a wide variety of experts in aviation field

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So anyone know how much is this degree offered by MIAT costs totally ?

2 years duration right ? Aircraft maintenance look like kind of promising thru.
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fyi, the degree course would be very new. in fact, the first intake would be in 2007 (if everything goes well). current diploma course cost about 3800 per semester for duration of 7 semester (which at the end of it u should be able to sit for lwtr) n i dont think it will be more than 5k.

not sure yet how long it gonna take(havent ask about it around yet) but i guess at least 4 years (maybe 1 or 1.5 topup on top of dip). i guess for now dip is good enuf, but i bet the degree is introduced to prepare for new standard (easa).
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FIY.MIAT will be known as one of the leading aviation training center soon. People start to look at us as quality human resources.
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hey anybody whos instrested i heard there will be a same programe like they did in miat at pli shah alam .. n the best thing is the practical will be one at MAS subang ... come everybody applied laa.... now at mas everything is shifthing ...easa had already making it mark on the course for their trainee... our aviation law is evolving to easa ....hguhuhuhuhuhuh
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true ka kabadi! waloh... very rugi not enroll earlier meh! hehehehe
*dont talk about license before ya can tackle the m'sian dca air leg.... unless ya go for easa part 66
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Not sure MAS here, but got friend working for SIA, salary around 20k/month. Not sure his position but he said nothing much to do and responsibility very high until ur balls can't bare it sweat.gif
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bro any where ya working there is risk...
mas is same like everywhere else (but here much more relax ;p)
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MAS is the last/worst company to work with but it'll be the first company you neeed to start with in the aviation industry involving civil aircraft.

since DCA is going EASA, so i'll talk about the law. EASA Part 66: Licensing.

if you have working experience with live aircraft for minimum of 5 yrs, or:

if you have working experience with live aircraft and proper training from an aviation industry (like MAS) for minimum of 3 yrs, or:

if you have working experience with live aircraft and training under Part 147 (Approved Training School*) for minimum of 2 yrs,.........

*MIAT is NOT an approved school.

..........you can apply for the B1 or B2 license, aka LWTR.

but NEVER study in MIAT. all trainees that MAS get from MIAT are not up to a clever/good standard as compare to the trainees that are trained from MAS Subang. All the MAS workers there hate MIAT students, giving bad comments.

Here's why:
MIAT is studying the US Jeppeson books with Level 1 standards. Level 1 means books for n00bs/dummies as introduction or get fammiliar with aircraft system. MIAT fellows also study small aircraft like Cessna which is a piston engine as well as helicopter that u don't study in MAS. all MAS aircrafts are powered by turbine engines. there's no real life aircraft in MIAT. only corpse. when MIAT student went to MAS fro training, they know nothing about commercial aircraft like 737. this makes the LAE in Subang pissed off. MIAT students are not exposed to the importance of getting license. they didn't know Part66 or BCAR Section L well. all they do is studying and get a diploma. Diploma is USELESS in LAE carrier as it is not stated in Part 66. Worst of all, MIAT is NOT an approved aviation school.

TAME in MAS Subang is studying the UK style with Level 3 standards. Level 3 is the highes standards with thorough/expert understanding. the simplest aircraft they study is 737-400. the knowledge can also be applied while doing practical cos they are studying the correcr book and working with real live aircraft. The chance of passing the DCA exam is 1000% higher than the students from MIAT.

However, there's still other college in europe or aussie that is under Part 147 approved training school.

Salary is the best with LAE but still loose to pilot. But the work of LAE sucks depends where u work at and the field(mechanical or avionics). working in Subang with overhaul with gives u headache and sick. working in sabah sarawak will make u live in heaven.

i wish all MIAT students will study hard and get their license. May god be with you.

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Skylinestar i bet ya r ex tame/tjt or machanic/ ex apr trainee since ya know so much about others (some tipikal mas staff behaviour....) other than the individu itself.... anyway ya r right... miat still not an approved 147 organization (either far/jar or easa part 66) yet the student or the organization itself is approved to sit for the lwtr exam ( naa malaysia: dca). isnt it weird for CLAIMED UNAPPROVED student and organization the student can go for the exam much faster than other institution.... rclxub.gif (pls refer to AN (the no. ya search for ya self... i bet ya know it ;p) issue 9 for duration of student from an APPROVED training school to take dca lwtr exam.....) maybe what i' said here is very hard to understand... but my point is, nobody perfect.... we all still learning and always in the learning progress if we continue condemm each others icon_idea.gif .... even here in mas engg. training. they still in the progress to get the 147 and the part 66 ;p

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MIAT students are not exposed to the importance of getting license. they didn't know Part66 or BCAR Section L well.

if miat student dont know... then how come they can sit for the lwtr exam doh.gif

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Diploma is USELESS in LAE carrier as it is not stated in Part 66. Worst of all, MIAT is NOT an approved aviation school.

fyi: using that diplome... our fellow miat graduate manage to get average rm1.5k per month (without ot and elaun) within 3 months after final exam (not even officially called graduate / convo) plus they working in this vast aviation industry where such university like glanmorgan (wales) accept this diplome to be use as requirement to further in degree of a/c maint. tech., but of cos only few student go because need a lots of money ma flex.gif


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my my..... as fro me a former miat student all i can yes its suck to be name as miat student the respect we get also below zero when working with mas...as becaause we dont have experience...its hard to hated and mock as some peice of shit everyday during practical but its okay for me its a learning curve may god bless all miat student as for my frend right now we just enter mas ....some still blinking their eyes when said from miat some okay some not ......but us miat are human.. we were treated as such disrespect ..but i dont know ...as far that i know there are some company other than MAS willing to take us ..as for me i got 4 offer before joining....i chose MAS maybe because to prove some people ...but maybe because of the chicks huhuhuhuh nahhh... as far as i concern i ts suck to be told people that we suck eventhough some not ( 3 my frend just past thier lwtr exam first try ) ...i maybe fail but i take my exam learn from it ...maybe maybe the future is bright for miat student or mas ....


by theway i heard from head trainee Of MAS said that MIAT is an approved training school.....though i maybe wrong but i remember he sadi it 3 times during a briefing ...huhuh
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three flur passed the exam first try huh! come on man.... lets together we prove to them that we r the (*shit - they say!) that gonna SAVE them one day!

may allah s.w.t be with us all muslim n muslimah
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 24 2006, 01:29 PM)
if you have working experience with live aircraft and training under Part 147 (Approved Training School*) for minimum of 2 yrs,.........

*MIAT is NOT an approved school.

..........you can apply for the B1 or B2 license, aka LWTR.

but NEVER study in MIAT. all trainees that MAS get from MIAT are not up to a clever/good standard as compare to the trainees that are trained from MAS Subang. All the MAS workers there hate MIAT students, giving bad comments.

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wow..where did this guy come from? once upon a time there were this bunch of guys who talk the same thing u talk about. now, they shut up oredi. let me help ahaw, skylinestar, refer to AN no 85, that AN specifically written for miat student which allow them to sit for lwtr. Guess what, this AN came out exactly at the same time with the first batch miat sitting for lwtr...weird coincidence?


QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ May 28 2006, 02:18 AM)
by theway i heard from head trainee Of MAS said that MIAT is an approved training school.....though i maybe wrong but i remember he sadi it 3 times during a briefing ...huhuh
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dude!
miat is an approved training org for long time oredi. remember the dinner+disco in the hangar during the handover ceremony? is it 2004? it's written in the guest book that miat is an approved org complete with the dca approval number!:peace:
that's y i dun care what ppl said about miat...they know nothing rolleyes.gif

pls dun flame up this thread, just put up the right info guys.


edited: specially for skylinestar;)


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hahahahah long live miat ...everybody instrested in joining this exiting job due send ur resume to airasia they are searching for trainess for their tame programme heheheheh their big boss for training is from miat and he is one of the master in avionic huhuhhuhuhuh
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wah really arr, i heard bout that too, Hj.Zainal right? very knowledgable person, by the way miat starting to be one of the most recognized facilities in malaysia for aircraft maintenance. as you can see in airfoil sdn. bhd. advert, they directly specified the requirement to work with them is diploma in aircraft maintenance technology. Proud to be in MIAT.
But still we have a rough route if we in MAS.
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1.airfoil sdn. bhd..... kene jumpa pm dia dulu encik azman mintak tambah gaji! huhuhu dapat training kat jerman lagi.....

2.hj. zainal mmg best orngye tapi kelas dia dulu aku blur la.....

3. air asia mmg nak org tapi fax lagi nak pakai org!
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Jun 15 2006, 07:43 AM)
hahahahah long live miat ...everybody instrested in joining this exiting job due send ur resume to airasia they are searching for trainess for their tame programme heheheheh their big boss for training is from miat and he is one of the master in avionic huhuhhuhuhuh
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one of MIAT's instructor is now with AirAsia Academy, also as a technical instructor. Not 'bigboss' k.

Yes, AirAsia is looking for trainees now, they advertised awhile back. Anyone interested, better send your application now.
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[/quote]miat is an approved training org for long time oredi. remember the dinner+disco in the hangar during the handover ceremony? is it 2004? it's written in the guest book that miat is an approved org complete with the dca approval number!:peace:
that's y i dun care what ppl said about miat...they know nothing rolleyes.gif

pls dun flame up this thread, just put up the right info guys.
edited: specially for skylinestar;)
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This is the current situation: for the last three (3)years, MIAT students/graduates are no longer accepted by DCA Malaysia. Their training programme does not satisfy the DCA minimum qualifications. MIAT graduates needs get the proper training/exposure and hands-on experience with other recognised establishment like MAS, APR etc before qualifying to sit for LWTR examinations. But for the earlier batches, they were ok and approved.

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apr?.... hmmmm... they are same level like mas trainee huh ohmy.gif

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Skylinestar,

For what it's worth, your statement with regards to training and requirements to qualify for DCA license is correct.

Other remarks with regards to MIAT, MAS and LAE job with MAS, I reserve my comments.

Regards.




QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 24 2006, 01:29 PM)
MAS is the last/worst company to work with but it'll be the first company you neeed to start with in the aviation industry involving civil aircraft.

since DCA is going EASA, so i'll talk about the law. EASA Part 66: Licensing.

if you have working experience with live aircraft for minimum of 5 yrs, or:

if you have working experience with live aircraft and proper training from an aviation industry (like MAS) for minimum of 3 yrs, or:

if you have working experience with live aircraft and training under Part 147 (Approved Training School*) for minimum of 2 yrs,.........

*MIAT is NOT an approved school.

..........you can apply for the B1 or B2 license, aka LWTR.


i wish all MIAT students will study hard and get their license. May god be with you.
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QUOTE(ahaw @ Jun 20 2006, 08:51 PM)
apr?.... hmmmm... they are same level like mas trainee huh  ohmy.gif
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APR has agreement with MAS to use MAS facilities for hands-on training which is mandatory.

APR owner is an ex-DCA surveyor. He knows the requirements!


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hmm..miat got one too..so everywhere we can find ex-DCA surveyor nowadays... rolleyes.gif

btw, there are FAX interview today. those who are to going to start working with transmile, congrats. heard they're gonna be in as soon as this thursday.
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@jazzy939:from your words it seems only mas and apr that know how follow the requirements.... hmmmm..... correct me if i'm wrong

@Lestat: yes... one flur huhuhu got experience with powerplant class with him

get yourself a type rating + 7 years experience than can apply for the position (from what i heard they had man power constraint) .... thats what mr. gan klass q.a said

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I merely quote 2 organisations that have the necessary setup for License Aircraft Engineers training. MAS goes without saying as they are the airline. APR is privately owned. AirAsia is about to start they apprenticeship training. Who else is doing it?


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@jazzy939:from your words it seems only mas and apr that know how follow the requirements.... hmmmm..... correct me if i'm wrong

@Lestat: yes... one flur huhuhu got experience with powerplant class with him

get yourself a type rating + 7 years experience than can apply for the position (from what i heard they had man power constraint) .... thats what mr. gan klass q.a said
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I was searching for contact numbers for MAS repair centre or related departments(mayb engineering/aircraft maintenance) n I stumbled upon this thread....

while reading through, n being an graduated mech. engineer myself feels tempted to join the flight not as a pilot but the aircraft engineer....... Ironically, after i read the part that decribes all the lengthy process n have start all over again, already shut off my steam valve.......

$$$ + respects, I can only blame myself making a wrong decision in the past, now pack that up n life continues.... its Monday again today whistling.gif


p/s: btw, I need a lil help here, can anyone tell me the contact number or person for aircraft maintenance/repair centre?
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toda,
the whole (engineering) setup in subang and klia are the maintenance centre!
there are base maintenance, line maintenance, ASU ( apron service units) various support workshops etc. you have to be specific. then again there is also the MAA, MAS Academy.

If you do not know who, just call the general number and hopefully the operator can get you connected to the right person/department.

yes, it is true. regardless of what you have (diploma/degree etc) when come to aircraft maintenance, you need to start from beginning as you do not have the necessary skills/hands on training on 'live' aircraft. by now you must be aware that its a mandatory requirement and valid for all regulatory body that issues maintenance license.



QUOTE(toda6866 @ Jun 26 2006, 03:33 PM)
I was searching for contact numbers for MAS repair centre or related departments(mayb engineering/aircraft maintenance) n I stumbled upon this thread....

while reading through, n being an graduated mech. engineer myself feels tempted to join the flight not as a pilot but the aircraft engineer....... Ironically, after i read the part that decribes all the lengthy process n have start all over again, already shut off my steam valve.......

$$$ + respects, I can only blame myself making a wrong decision in the past, now pack that up n life continues.... its Monday again today  whistling.gif
p/s: btw, I need a lil help here, can anyone tell me the contact number or person for aircraft maintenance/repair centre?
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sorry for my ignorance, i got some inquiry. well, why MH academy takes 5 years to complete the syllabus meanwhile MIAT does only take 3 years for the course? How much allowance they paid when your training period(MH).
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no worries teddie,

MH academy and MIAT does not use the same syllabus! that's why. MH is using the Section L of the BCAR required by the DCA. While MIAT,after they want to get the acredition from LAN... is using 'other than Section L of the BCAR' . That is why, as mentioned earlier in this thread, MIAT graduates are deemed not qualified to sit for the DCA's LWTR examination until they get their hands on training on real live aircraft....2 years at least.

With MH academy, at the end of that 5 years, you WILL be a Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer employed by MAS, with one aircraft type rating minimum.

With MIAT, you'll get the Diploma in Aviation Maintenance ( I think ) and thats about it.


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sorry for my ignorance, i got some inquiry. well, why MH academy takes 5 years to complete the syllabus meanwhile MIAT does only take 3 years for the course?  How much allowance they paid when your training period(MH).
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Jun 27 2006, 09:43 PM)
no worries teddie,

MH academy and MIAT does not use the same syllabus! that's why. MH is using the Section L of the BCAR required by the DCA. While MIAT,after they want to get the acredition from LAN... is using 'other than Section L of the BCAR' . That is why, as mentioned earlier in this thread, MIAT graduates are deemed not qualified to sit for the DCA's LWTR examination until they get their hands on training on real live aircraft....2 years at least.

With MH academy, at the end of that 5 years, you WILL be a Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer employed by MAS, with one aircraft type rating minimum.

With MIAT, you'll get the Diploma in Aviation Maintenance ( I think ) and thats about it.
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may i ADD some more info. i had to repeat this again, early his year, for the first time, MIAT students had sat for LWTR a few months after they grad. so u are wrong, jazzy. why? how? refer AN no 85. you are right tho that MAS and MIAT didnt use the same syllabus. they're almost tongue.gif

there are some difference between maintenance repair organization (MRO) and maintenance training organization(MTO). MAS, AA-> MRO. MIAT->MTO. ordinary people with zero knowledge of aircraft require 5 yrs experience before they can sit for LWTR. ordinary people with zero knowledge on aircraft who goes to MTO approved by DCA can sit after he finish his 3rd year. in miat, lwtr is your choice to take or not. at the end, u stil got dip. with MAS, jazzy has explained.



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QUOTE(toda6866 @ Jun 26 2006, 03:33 PM)

while reading through, n being an graduated mech. engineer myself feels tempted to join the flight not as a pilot but the aircraft engineer....... Ironically, after i read the part that decribes all the lengthy process n have start all over again, already shut off my steam valve.......

$$$ + respects, I can only blame myself making a wrong decision in the past, now pack that up n life continues.... its Monday again today  whistling.gif

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i believe mech eng. is valuable in aviation maintenance. say, your kind is needed in modification department. i dont have much experience in airliners coz i involved only in general aviation (heli, private jet) n im still new tongue.gif. just get anywhere within maintenance/engineering side of aviation n get your hand dirty a bit (work with aircraft, not at desk or workshop), then after 5 yrs go for lwtr icon_rolleyes.gif

that's the way i can see it...for now. taiko2 pls add also.. stil cant find any aircraft taiko in here yet..sweat.gif
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tahnks for the helpful reply jazzy & lestat....actually, my current job also requires hands-on in the begining, but now not so much as im working in the exec. lvl already

i really dun mind my hands dirty jz for u to know, coz theres a thing called degreasing soap aka SODA...........heheh
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Not at all toda. Glad to be of help.

Understood. Even if you don't get your hands 'dirty' what is required is you to be current with your trade. smile.gif

QUOTE(toda6866 @ Jun 28 2006, 01:04 PM)
tahnks for the helpful reply jazzy & lestat....actually, my current job also requires hands-on in the begining, but now not so much as im working in the exec. lvl already

i really dun mind my hands dirty jz for u to know, coz theres a thing called degreasing soap aka SODA...........heheh
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Lestat,
Yes, there are a need for graduate engineers in the aviation industry. Not directly with aircraft maintenance but more on the support functions, name Technical Services. Technical services provides support when deviations are required where the specific approved manual does not cover a repair which is out of the normal limits.... Technical Services normally would liase with the manufacturer of the aircraft or vendor of the specific components and also the regulatory bodies to get approval which is outside the normal scope of maintenance.

GA (General Aviation) is another interesting market. A lot of prospects with few qualified people to go around... Big piece of cake with few people to share... whistling.gif

Great.. LWTR is the way to go the next step.. wish you all the best!


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i believe mech eng. is valuable in aviation maintenance. say, your kind is needed in modification department. i dont have much experience in airliners coz i involved only in general aviation (heli, private jet) n im still new tongue.gif. just get anywhere within maintenance/engineering side of aviation n get your hand dirty a bit (work with aircraft, not at desk or workshop), then after 5 yrs go for lwtr icon_rolleyes.gif

that's the way i can see it...for now. taiko2 pls add also.. stil cant find any aircraft taiko in here yet..sweat.gif
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lestat,
from what I heard last, there's about 100 students ex-MIAT whose application to sit for the DCA's LWTR exam where put on hold. This is because the DCA need to relook into their syllabus again. Probably teh DCA has decided that they can accept whatever MIAT is doing right now or these were the earlier batch NOT affected by the change when MIAT get their LAN recognition. I got these info from MIAT's ex-program director himself. I will get the latest update on these and update the forumers here. smile.gif If I am wrong, then I am wrong. My apologies.

QUOTE(Lestat @ Jun 28 2006, 04:31 AM)
may i ADD some more info. i had to repeat this again, early his year, for the first time, MIAT students had sat for LWTR a few months after they grad. so u are wrong, jazzy. why? how? refer AN no 85. you are right tho that MAS and MIAT didnt use the same syllabus. they're almost tongue.gif

there are some difference between maintenance repair organization (MRO) and maintenance training organization(MTO). MAS, AA-> MRO. MIAT->MTO. ordinary people with zero knowledge of aircraft require 5 yrs experience before they can sit for LWTR. ordinary people with zero knowledge on aircraft who goes to MTO approved by DCA can sit after he finish his 3rd year. in miat, lwtr is your choice to take or not. at the end, u stil got dip. with MAS, jazzy has explained.
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If you are applying for AK's apprenticeship programme, I wanna wish you all the best! I don't see anything wrong with that.
The bond I would reckon no less that 5 years. During my time with MAS awhile back, it was 10 years! tongue.gif



QUOTE(teddie @ Jun 27 2006, 11:17 PM)
thanks alot, hope that AK's sponsorship will be a wise choice to me. Wondering how many years bond do they required  smile.gif
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Guys,
An update on MIAT graduates status.
I wish to confirm that now MIAT graduates are eligible to sit for DCA's LWTR examinations. DCA have conducted an audit to re-evaluate MIAT's syllabus which was found to inline with DCA's minimum requirements.

The previous batch, out of about 100, only about 42 applied and sit for the exams. Some even passed on first sitting, which is GOOD! Congrats guys!. The balance, I have no idea what happened to them. What I heard they were 'afraid' to go through DCA....

If you are one of the guys.. please give it a shot, what have you got to loose? The industry is really short of Licensed Aircraft Engineers. BTW,Licensed Aircraft Engineers are better paid than graduate engineers.... biggrin.gif



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the balance not afraid... it just some of they already make their decision not to continue as aircraft engineer... but to prove others that what our diploma can do in various field (like NDT area e.g airfoil and avionics wokshop e.g honeywell and the other one, plus some work with airod and bla bla bla)

dont worry about miat status, lets the student and ex student worried about that, for me in this industry when you start is not the main problem, either in young age or late in the middle 30's. dont make it as an excuse not to do it (there are some mas trainee engg. who still not establish as an engg. even though already in the program for more than 5 years!) as jazzy939 wrote... there are some miat students that pass the exam in one sit! thats amazing for un experience claimed student to pass the exam in one sit! hmmmm.... if they can, you also can do it toda6866 ;p

where you start is not a problem... either with airlines trng school or an un approved claimed instituition.... at least one of your foot already in the industry.... but for me one major advantage to go for your diploma first is things like MAS MSS can happen again with no doubt.... at least with ya diploma cert ya can apply to go for others fields (like what i explain before.....) airline industries in m'sia is like pure aluminum, its hard but fragile, alloying it will add it strength!

untill next time- got an exam tomorrow
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guys, if i have a degree in mech,

wat r my options to go into aviation industry, particularly aircraft engineering witout startin rght from the beginnin ?

thanx in advance fer al ur replys laugh.gif
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Technical Services or 'some' management position. MAS takes in degree holders in any disiplin for their management trainee positions.



QUOTE(aLthaLus @ Jun 30 2006, 02:26 PM)
guys, if i have a degree in mech,

wat r my options to go into aviation industry, particularly aircraft engineering witout startin rght from the beginnin ?

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Don't forget Eurocopter! They do employ graduate engineers too!
I am not denying other opportunities for graduate engineers. These are also specialised field and suitable for non-licensed engineers.

As far as worrying the status, I don't. I merely corrected my earlier statements with regards to MIAT graduates after making further enquiries direct to MIAT.

As far as MAS's MSS is concerned, the impact on engineering and flight operations are minimal. These are the heart of any airlines, surely MAS is not dumb enough to chop off staff from here although there are some 'overstaffing' in some departments. It is the support functions (clerical, finance, HR etc)that they are trying to minimised.

Whatever it is, it is your future. You decide which path you want to take. We are here to explain to you what are available and what we have gone through.

Anyway, good luck in your exam.

QUOTE(ahaw @ Jun 29 2006, 11:45 PM)
the balance not afraid... it just some of they already make their decision not to continue as aircraft engineer... but to prove others that what our diploma can do in various field (like NDT area e.g airfoil and avionics wokshop e.g honeywell and the other one, plus some work with airod and bla bla bla)

dont worry about miat status, lets the student and ex student worried about that, for me in this industry when you start is not the main problem, either in young age or late in the middle 30's. dont make it as an excuse not to do it (there are some mas trainee engg. who still not establish as an engg. even though already in the program for more than 5 years!) as jazzy939 wrote... there are some miat students that pass the exam in one sit! thats amazing for un experience claimed student to pass the exam in one sit! hmmmm.... if they can, you also can do it toda6866 ;p

where you start is not a problem... either with airlines trng school or an un approved claimed instituition.... at least one of your foot already in the industry.... but for me one major advantage to go for your diploma first is things like MAS MSS can happen again with no doubt.... at least with ya diploma cert ya can apply to go for others fields (like what i explain before.....) airline industries in m'sia is like pure aluminum, its hard but fragile, alloying it will add it strength!

untill next time- got an exam tomorrow

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anybody is welcome to join aviation industry with whatever certification u got. technical services is one of the best way to join if u new to aviation coz u'll learn a lot about rules, process,etc..

jazzy dude, u work with eurocopter?
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No lah dude... but I got friends working there. License and graduate engineers.
I wish I had rotary wing coverage. They pay quite well!

Come to think of it, I got friends everywhere! biggrin.gif How 'small' the aviation world is... hehe.


QUOTE(Lestat @ Jun 30 2006, 08:21 PM)
anybody is welcome to join aviation industry with whatever certification u got. technical services is one of the best way to join if u new to aviation coz u'll learn a lot about rules, process,etc..

jazzy dude, u work with eurocopter?
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hmm... eurocopter same like air asia, GE and some others company... their hr really good in screening process..... they dont simply employ new graduates or spm holder as technichal stuff.... but lucky enough some of my juniors already been approached by them (eurocopter) while they working with their practikal.... hmmmm rezki masing2

and yes how 'small' the aviation world is...
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asas nye, aircraft configuration diff. between operator/ airline configuration due to its usage and requirement.....

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/tech_...ad.main/125045/
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yes, screening is done for good reasons too! not hr alone, the departmental head usually have strict requirements when new staff are employed. No headaches later biggrin.gif

on top of having qualified for the job, they also want to find out about your attitude. Your previous employer, friends may be contacted to see if you are the 'right' stuff. Thats why they pay you well...



QUOTE(ahaw @ Jun 30 2006, 08:29 PM)
hmm... eurocopter same like air asia, GE and some others company... their hr really good in screening process..... they dont simply employ new graduates or spm holder as technichal stuff.... but lucky enough some of my juniors already been approached by them (eurocopter) while they working with their practikal.... hmmmm rezki masing2

and yes how 'small' the aviation world is...
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Converting to a Part-66 Licence If your licence privileges relate to the maintenance and certification of aircraft above 5700kgs MTWA only, the UK CAA would recommend that you convert your licence at this time. It is recommended that only current authorisations and approvals be claimed under Protected Rights with your initial conversion application. Full Protected Rights may be claimed but it is inevitable that this will take significantly longer than converting current authorisations and the rejection rate for these applications is traditionally high. Other Protected Rights from previous employment can be assessed and claimed at a future time when required by the individual. JAR-66 AML holders will not be required to take any further action to gain an EASA Part-66 AML. This should be automatically issued at the next licensing action. If your licence privileges relate to the maintenance and certification of aircraft below 5700kgs MTWA, you may still renew via BCAR Section L. The CAA has reduced the renewal period from 5 years to 2 years and reduced the renewal fee accordingly, in readiness for 28 September 2006. However, Part-66 licences for the maintenance of aircraft below 5700 kg are available now. Note: A JAR-66 licence will not need to be converted to a Part-66 licence as it is deemed in accordance with the new regulations. A Part-66 licence will be issued at the same time as licence extension/JAR-66 renewal application. Note: With the exception of BCAR licences with Annex II aircraft, BCAR Section L Licence renewal will cease 28 September 2006.
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ha'ah 743 ain..... boleh kata diorang x pakai glass cockpit.... tengok kat flight enggineer punya tempat pun dah pening.... bnyk gile meter....

@mr_ashraf: nak pergi tu aku mmg nak, tapi duitnye...... ;p

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thanks for the pic sir, the cockpit has impressed me deeply, i'll appreciate it, thanks again.
well, ahaw, where do you working currently?
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aihhh...budak avionic nie ....hmmm woahhh sudah ade otai baru jazzy .huhuhuuu...come come lets us cherish this moment of aviation industry .....


P/s: bytheway awat hz ain tu tak kuar lagi ...nie mesti avionic kerje tak betui nie huhuhh gurau je tongue.gif
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i'm an a&p mech working for an american commercial airline(www.woa.com). we might be looking for one more person in the near future. a&p license and md11 experience a must. basic pay approx: 14k/month, fixed allowance: 4k. anyone?

i heard that transmile is also looking for md11 people but with dca license. basic salary 13k.

so to threadstarter: good prospects but u need lots of luck to land a good paying job.

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my my nice job u got there bro.... hmmm actually our miat followed a & p sylibus but to go fpor the exam we need to go to the state ..huhuhhuh anyway anychance u want a lwtr person huhuhhuh

wuiiihhhh byk game bole beli ng gaji tu huhuhhuhuh
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do anyone here has the latest information about AK's trainee programme?
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lwtr can join air asia or transmile lah... i think they offer pretty good pay too. unfortunately a lwtr is useless in an american airline. tongue.gif same way my a&p is almost useless in malaysia.
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how u got ur a p dude???
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im a miat student too.. just entering 2nd sem in dip. hehehe
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yeah, kenling..where did u do ur a&p? might gonna need it since not only USA use it. i think saudi aradia also use a&p? coz last time i saw a posr on rotor position but need a&p holder.
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i did it with my current employer. they got my visa and paid for my ticket. tongue.gif
i only paid for a one week course in america, exam fees and my lodging.

did it about ten years ago so the details are a little fuzzy. rclxub.gif

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i wonder if u start working locally or start abroad (or oversea company). how long do need to become so valuable that that ur company pay u to make license sweat.gif
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actually that time world airways had a contract with mas so my ticket was free. that's partly why i say u need luck to get a good paying job in aviation.
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yup luck....sigh ...its a taboo word for miat student ..... sweat.gif ....

p/s; today just saw 4 air crash investigation movie during class...my my im afraid i will be shaking doing my work in the hangar sweat.gif

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yes I do.
They're still looking to fill up about 12 places for the first intake...

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teddie good luck.... hmmm.... kan bagus kalau dapat a&p with dca license... anyway kenling thanks for the info... i'll spread to my members also ;p

@kabadi.... x tau la kapal tu banyak sangat nak tuka.... dia nak kita bagi diorang kapal baru kot... hahaha
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whose plane is that??

still Need a Flight engineer.,... everything analogue

MAS KARGO? or Transmile..?

some where in subang..... hmmm

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yes I do.
They're still looking to fill up about 12 places for the first intake...
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thanks ahaw


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QUOTE(fillet @ Jul 21 2006, 02:29 AM)
whose plane is that??

still Need a Flight engineer.,... everything analogue

MAS KARGO?  or Transmile..?

some where in subang..... hmmm
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heheheh its the arabian aircraft some say it is haunted ...why ...u tell me la .. everyday got defect...which is new suddenly appeared out of nowhere .... i thik their trick to get free service for their aircraft ..huhuh just kidding ...but its true the aircraft is like a old tiara already .... too much defect to be rectified huhuhhuh


p/s; teddy dont woorry they will call you but if u wanna know u can always call them

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My best guess is, only shortlisted candidates will be called for an interview. I heard A LOT have applied, surely they want the best. Besides good academic qualifications, the candidates must have the right 'attitude'.. this is where most candidates might 'fail'.....

So far they have not called anyone yet.. I think August is their dateline.

Good luck to you and all the best!

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do they called you for interview? I'm still waiting their letter.

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they only reply me by sending me email at the next day that i sent my application:-


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Dear Hor,



Thank you for your application. We will revert for the interview date.



Regards,



Salleh Mohamed.

Contracts & Dev Dept.

AirAsia Berhad.

well, should I give them a call for enquiry?

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Well, you definitely can! But the problem/decision is with the higher management, in this case, the Director of Engineering and the engineering manager who is in charge of training. If you can get hold of any of this two person, then they may shed some light on this. They started awhile back around May, now its almost august....

QUOTE(teddie @ Jul 21 2006, 08:58 PM)
they only reply me by sending me email at the next day that i sent my application:-
well, should I give them a call for enquiry?
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Well, you definitely can! But the problem/decision is with the higher management, in this case, the Director of Engineering and the engineering manager who is in charge of training. If you can get hold of any of this two person, then they may shed some light on this. They started awhile back around May, now its almost august....
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@Kabadi84: kapal tu spare part dia mana ada lagi kat sini... kalau nak kene mintak pak arab tu AOG bawak datang sini... mana la lae kita suka kalau sume aog.... kalau ko penah buat troubleshoot dia hmmm demam beb... anyway aku cuma observe, lae yang buat (masih berguru hihihi)

@teddie: patience is the key icon_idea.gif

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weh lestat company ape tu dude ???
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aihhh ge huhuhuhuhuu bole pindah sebelah ...
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hey lesen tetap lesen mane tau the offer is damn lucrative ke huhuhuhh
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sorry mod huhuhhh will do next post .. if can any body lets us share some experience who is working where how is the scene there??? kenling .... u work line or base how us maintaine their a/c cincai or qutie strict
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sorry mod huhuhhh will do next post .. if can any body lets us share some experience who is working where  how is the scene there??? kenling .... u work line or base how us maintaine their a/c cincai or qutie strict
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eva air cargo leasing our acft in tpe. their maintenance section, egat supports us. very professional and helpful. very strict and follow everything by the book. but we're not as strict as them or the malaysian dca but we're professional enuff to be safe. that's all i'm saying. heh.

i'm line maintenance. typhoon just passed by so working here can be interesting.

before anyone asks, i work 14/6. that's 14 days on in tpe then 6 days off in kul. travel days included in the 14 days and company pays for the flights. pretty good deal i think. icon_idea.gif

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teddie,
an update on this. I just got word is that they(AA) will be calling the candidates between 5-6 august for an aptitude test. btw, 400 applied! 'passing' the test, you would be called for an interview before being finally shortlisted for final selection!

cross your fingers dude! all the best! biggrin.gif


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i should be patience i think smile.gif
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teddie,
an update on this. I just got word is that they(AA) will be calling the candidates between 5-6 august for an aptitude test. btw, 400 applied! 'passing' the test, you would be called for an interview before being finally shortlisted for final selection!

cross your fingers dude! all the best! biggrin.gif
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and yet, i dun reveive any mail from them... sigh... how bout u, mate?

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QUOTE(kenling @ Jul 26 2006, 12:47 AM)
eva air cargo leasing our acft in tpe. their maintenance section, egat supports us. very professional and helpful. very strict and follow everything by the book. but we're not as strict as them or the malaysian dca but we're professional enuff to be safe. that's all i'm saying. heh.

i'm line maintenance. typhoon just passed by so working here can be interesting.

before anyone asks, i work 14/6. that's 14 days on in tpe then 6 days off in kul. travel days included in the 14 days and company pays for the flights. pretty good deal i think.  icon_idea.gif
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this is nice ...wonder willl get tehehe will get the oppurtinity like that thumbup.gif
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some more 'internal' update. transmile interested ngan lwtr wannabe and there will be interview in august. mr hyder will update me soon.

which one is better? in terms of salary n future advancement, transmile, air asia, or mas?
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what i know, transmile and mas give about the same amount of salary, but air asia dont have any idea.... they said (mas lae and tech.) air asia gives a lots of money but yo need to work kow2 / very hard to match your salary...

anyway for me mas is better since the enviroment allow you to study if you want to go for your exam, either here in m'sia or at uk for easa

@kenling: your monthly elaun mesti kow2 ;p

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yup mas is the best for study but if you a miat student u neeed to have a great heart and alot of patient as because u will have some 'difficulity' if you know what i mean ...personaly i do suggest mas is the best for building up ur carreer in this industry
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i've talked to some mas ol timer staff, they said during their time, they also not very lucky... i mean if you already assign to w/shop, it is very hard to get a place in line maint. job. plus management do have double standrd between technician who want to get their license then trainee engineer... i think nowdays we are a little bit lucky... (can straight a way go for the license)

yawn.gif poor enggineering staff, works and study like hell, at last got mss...

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u did bad in during ur training..surely u'll be sent to the w/shop.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ahaw @ Jul 30 2006, 02:34 AM)
i've talked to some mas ol timer staff, they said during their time, they also not very lucky... i mean if you already assign to w/shop, it is very hard to get a place in line maint. job. plus management do have double standrd between technician who want to get their license then trainee engineer... i think nowdays we are a little bit lucky... (can straight a way go for the license)

yawn.gif poor enggineering staff, works and study like hell, at last got mss...
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go with MAS, then Transmile. Last choice, AA.

QUOTE(Lestat @ Jul 29 2006, 06:42 PM)
some more 'internal' update. transmile interested ngan lwtr wannabe and there will be interview in august. mr hyder will update me soon.

which one is better? in terms of salary n future advancement, transmile, air asia, or mas?
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in fact MAS is good for us as ex-MIAT but the management "kepala" je yg give problem....
i until now don know why they very anti kat budak MIAT.

contoh yg paling mudah--->katakanlah seorang ayah antar anak dia ke sekolah tapi anak dia tu nakal, kuat ponteng, dll. apabila time exam, anaknya tu gagal. so siapakah yg harus dipersalahkan? takkan sekolah pulak kot. (cuba samakan dgn MAS antar TAME dia ke MIAT). adakah miat yg harus dipersalahkan????



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hmm..mas batch sent to miat last time perfrom badly ke? they got their own syllabus different from miat, maybe they should blame their syllabus which was prepared by ...hmmm... MAS?

anybody went to MAS interview last saturday? can you tell me what post they offer? and maybe about how much they are paying smile.gif

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lestat/ashraf,

after my visit to MIAT and talks with MIAT personnel, I think it was MAS that messed up the initial setup! and also the LAN requirements also messed things up with DCA requirements, but thats another story!

Mr. Hyder is now there and he (and the others) has made a tremendous effort to put things right. So far I see no problem with fulfilling our DCA requirements. You should be as good or better than MAS own trainees...



QUOTE(Lestat @ Jul 31 2006, 07:13 AM)
hmm..mas batch sent to miat last time perfrom badly ke? they got their own syllabus different from miat, maybe they should blame their syllabus which was prepared by ...hmmm... MAS?

anybody went to MAS interview last saturday? can you tell me what post they offer? and maybe about how much they are paying smile.gif
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QUOTE(Lestat @ Jul 31 2006, 07:13 AM)
anybody went to MAS interview last saturday? can you tell me what post they offer? and maybe about how much they are paying smile.gif
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TJT and AMT...all miat students sat for the TJT and it was just some english and iq test... TJT standard arr 1200 kot...after min 6 months training
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if u are from miat , just take TJT post. if you take TAME/AMT, you just waisting your time

TJT = 6-12 MONTH
TAME/AMT = 3 TO 5 YEARS
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I've received their call jazzy, 5th of august, 9am AK academy. how bout u?

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me? salary? hehehe ;p

again teddy good luck icon_rolleyes.gif

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well gents, what should I expect on the test?

again, thanks ahaw.

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QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Jul 31 2006, 12:54 PM)
if u are from miat , just take TJT post. if you take TAME/AMT, you just waisting your time

TJT = 6-12 MONTH
TAME/AMT = 3 TO 5 YEARS
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Basically there would be three papers. English, Science and IQ/Aptitude/Mechanical Reasoning.

Some questions are subjective/essay type.

Nothing to study really, just do your best and if you're cut out to be an engineer, you'll be called up for the interview.

Good luck to you all.



QUOTE(teddie @ Jul 31 2006, 10:26 PM)
well gents, what should I expect on the test?

again, thanks ahaw.
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Congrats! BTW, how many of the forumers applied?

What about me?

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I've received their call jazzy, 5th of august, 9am AK academy. how bout u?
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Congrats! BTW, how many of the forumers applied?

What about me?
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i though u have applied it too smile.gif
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 1 2006, 08:34 AM)
Basically there would be three papers. English, Science and IQ/Aptitude/Mechanical Reasoning.

Some questions are subjective/essay type.

Nothing to study really, just do your best and if you're cut out to be an engineer, you'll be called up for the interview.

Good luck to you all.
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I already have my AMEL way back in 1984! biggrin.gif

and an L.A.M.E since 1985.... rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(teddie @ Aug 1 2006, 02:23 PM)
i though u have applied it too smile.gif
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I already have my AMEL way back in 1984! biggrin.gif

and an L.A.M.E since 1985....  rclxm9.gif
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My friend is MAS aircraft repair engineer based in Subang. He's doing pretty fine and he loves his job.
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I already have my AMEL way back in 1984! biggrin.gif

and an L.A.M.E since 1985....  rclxm9.gif
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wah jazzy u got your licence in 1984. i baru lahir lolllll
so you same batch with Hj Khai ke? or Mr Zahir??
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No worries teddie. No harm done. Will you be at the Academy this saturday? I might drop in.... could u PM me ur real name.. wink.gif


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Nolah, I am NOT that old! tongue.gif they were my seniors. Hj. Zahir was my Senior Foreman in 1984. Later he was the Base Maint.Manager...
Hj Khai was in the apprentice training back then.. yup. Knew them, infact I met Hj. Zahir last monday... The DEAN! biggrin.gif


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wah jazzy u got your licence in 1984. i baru lahir lolllll
so you same batch with Hj Khai ke? or Mr Zahir??
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it was en. zahir who support us from the beginning... if it not because of him generousity to share his knowledge, time and 'power' hmmm i dont think we can go this far quite easy... then also salute mr. hyder and others enggineers who helped (its not easy you know to come in the late night to sepang just want to teach bunch of 'know nothing' kids about a/c system)...

as you can see there only a few peoples who dedicate their lives to share knowledge and time for others benefit, if these peoples who run the big company like mas and proton, i think m'sia can be a succes and better place to work or making money...
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Well said in your last paragraph. Sadly, there's only a handful of engineers/people who will do this for the sake of the industry/country/people. WE want to pass on the knowledge and experience to the younger generations... to continue our legacy...

Aviation is our passion. We're only returning what we had back to the industry... that is all.

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it was en. zahir who support us from the beginning... if it not because of him generousity to share his knowledge, time and 'power' hmmm i dont think we can go this far quite easy... then also salute mr. hyder and others enggineers who helped (its not easy you know to come in the late night to sepang just want to teach bunch of 'know nothing' kids about a/c system)...

as you can see there only a few peoples who dedicate their lives to share knowledge and time for others benefit, if these peoples who run the big company like mas and proton, i think m'sia can be a succes and better place to work or making money...
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but is okay because of this few people ... the aviation industry...will prospers as the young young star emerge to open up the industry to a new level huhuhhuhuh hope mas will start untung or else huhuhhuh heheheh give us ur trade mark look la jazzy hahahahah bole tegur nanti huhuhhh

btw jazzy u got ur license when i was istill in my mother womb huhuhhuhuhu tongue.gif

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sifu jazzy,
hope that i can be your apprentice, sir.. hahaha.... good to begin my career with learning frm you smile.gif

well any1 here went to AK's test?
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new "mas training center" already run at hangar 1.... most of the student are sponsored by felda... jazzy any comment about this centre?
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belum lagi la amir..still kosong la the building huhuhuhhh.... btw teddy when are u coming huhuhuhuhhhh
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Aug 9 2006, 01:49 AM)
belum lagi la amir..still kosong la the building huhuhuhhh.... btw  teddy when are u coming huhuhuhuhhhh
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hey dont be like that the thing is in aviation what important is that u have the intrerest to take to know and to learn everything about aviation what ii learn in the interview i went u must show how instrested u are in this job and u willingness to learn everything is important huhuhhuhh
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yes i have the passion but.... i'm worrying bout my test, writting part. really nervous..
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hahahahahah can see the passion from ya avatar huhuhuhhu
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well, actually my ambition is to be a "air" bus driver. "Dr. of airplanes" is a wise choice i think. haha....
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ahaw,
this is kinda 'new' info to me. new training center huh? but why do they need a new one? well, i have to find out more on this. if it is true, then it is well and good, but then again, what about MAA (MAS Academy)?

also i came to know MIAT is planning to set up a 'branch' at subang airport... we also have APR in the vicinity... wow. all of a sudden, there's aviation training everywhere... rclxms.gif

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new "mas training center" already run at hangar 1.... most of the student are sponsored by felda... jazzy any comment about this centre?
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teddie,
for your info, the examination papers have been marked. the results are with the engineering management. they are vetting through and will be listing the candidates and calling them up as earlier mentioned, 15th. August. Good luck dude!

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yes i have the passion but.... i'm worrying bout my test, writting part. really nervous..
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teddie,
for your info, the examination papers have been marked. the results are with the engineering management. they are vetting through and will be listing the candidates and calling them up as earlier mentioned, 15th. August. Good luck dude!
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hahahahah teddie go ask jazzy help ya dude hahahahahah ...trust me this will really help huhuhuhuhhhhh......try to look for ya name hahahahaha

p/s: i stole ur mas signatur dude hahahaha tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Aug 10 2006, 07:36 PM)
hahahahah teddie go ask jazzy help ya dude hahahahahah ...trust me this will really help huhuhuhuhhhhh......try to look for ya name hahahahaha

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its ok, my pleasure that u like it as well. Heliconia ;-9`

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i know this from one of the coordinator who setup the place... anyway that is what he said... 'malaysian airlines system training centre'... student full sponsored by felda...
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actually, AA will be calling the elligible candidates by the 15th. I don't see it happening earlier... As is, there has been several calls, from the parents asking about the examination results...

BTW, the results is not very encouraging especially the essay question. Somehow its below AA expectations...

anyway, whatever it is, decision will be made.



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thanks sir, as u metioned last time when we met, 15th will be the last day for the interview passport rite? i'm waiting for their call .... smile.gif
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 11 2006, 06:56 AM)
actually, AA will be calling the elligible candidates by the 15th. I don't see it happening earlier... As is, there has been several calls, from the parents asking about the examination results...

BTW, the results is not very encouraging especially the essay question. Somehow its below AA expectations...

anyway, whatever it is, decision will be made.
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how many candidates do u all shortlisted for the interview round sir? and which means we only able to knw our results on 15th, judgement day. well, sir, i hope to receive your phone call at 15th's alongs with the positive sign to me. smile.gif
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I am NOT the one doing the shortlisting.
I guess the same person calling for the exam will be calling you with regards to the interview dates. I merely was assisting the team in invigilating the written exam, that is all biggrin.gif


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how many candidates do u all shortlisted for the interview round sir? and which means we only able to knw our results on 15th, judgement day. well, sir, i hope to receive your phone call at 15th's  alongs  with the positive sign to me.  smile.gif
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jazzy are u orking with aa or mas unsure.gif ????
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jazzy work for AK ^^
jazzy please keep updating with me if any updated news, thanks.

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i think teddie has responded, however i see it as working for OUR aviation industry.. for our people, for the country.. biggrin.gif

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jazzy are u orking with aa or mas  unsure.gif ????
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agree jazzy, we should work for our counrty smile.gif
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 12 2006, 12:06 AM)
i think teddie has responded, however i see it as working for OUR aviation industry.. for our people, for the country..  biggrin.gif
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i like this patriotism huhuhuhuhuh ... yup me to want that but first i need to help myself first after i can help others huhuhuhuhhhuhh
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QUOTE(kenling @ Aug 13 2006, 07:46 PM)
huhuhu... i'm working for american aviation but i bring back us dollars to malaysia... tongue.gif
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huhuhu... i'm working for american aviation but i bring back us dollars to malaysia... tongue.gif
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ahaw,
how is the "thrill"? wish u can share some of yours with us here. Well, i made it to the finals at AK, hopefully i can be one of the 12 candidates that they shortlisted for 1st enrolment.
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for me its everything.... everyday you learn somthg new even you have done it repeatedly, its 'everyday' job to crack your head for troubleshooting (its more to lae's ;p) anyway as for now the thrill is more on how to get all the basic license and practised all your theories that you have learned before....

@teddie: i thought you pass already.... dont give up
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i will be attending the final interview, any advice?
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be honest.... sit properly and answer the question wisely...

if they call you for the interview usually the job is yours but you must prove to them that you are the one they search for... they dont expect too much from you because they know that you dont know, i mean if you dont know the answer just say 'i'm sorry sir, i dont know the answer', dont bluffing hahaha they know ;p
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QUOTE(ahaw @ Aug 30 2006, 05:46 PM)
be honest.... sit properly and answer the question wisely...

if they call you for the interview usually the job is yours but you must prove to them that you are the one they search for... they dont expect too much from you because they know that you dont know, i mean if you dont know the answer just say 'i'm sorry sir, i dont know the answer', dont bluffing hahaha they know ;p
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the thing with interview is just give good impression ... n another thing dont lawan the interviewer..cause some of my frend did it at it cause them dearly ..pity them....by the way this is aa or mas ????
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yes , it is from AK mate... =)
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talking about the job? hehehe have you watch wrc? rally programme? how the mechanics works all over night to repair the damage car. that goes same to the aircraft, only in different method, all based on paper works... avionics job concentrate on electrical, instrument and radio trade. where mechanical concentrate on airframe and engine trade. man, sorry i'm not good in answering your question......
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QUOTE(ahaw @ Aug 31 2006, 01:57 PM)
talking about the job? hehehe have you watch wrc? rally programme? how the mechanics works all over night to repair the damage car. that goes same to the aircraft, only in different method, all based on paper works... avionics job concentrate on electrical, instrument and radio trade. where mechanical concentrate on airframe and engine trade. man, sorry i'm not good in answering your question......
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nope... i think all trade give you their own thrill, you'll understand it if you do it your self, different people have different interest ;p
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heheheh what excited u most electric or mecha ..that how u judge urself what u like huhuhhh
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 1 2006, 09:15 PM)
heheheh
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..that how u judge urself what u like huhuhhh
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this i dont know thurt or not but there seem and indicator on how u know which a lae is a a & c type or an e type ... i dont know we can just knew what is hhis or her type of license .... huhuuhuhh mystery
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e n i lae more relaxed compare to a n c lae since most of the job cover a n c trade, only at base / hangar check e n i have more job compare at the line maint... and i agree with you kabadi84; its hard to know their trade unless we .... hehhe talk or watch what type of tools that they carry
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what is e n i/a n c?
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trade, we have a (airframe), c (engine/ powerplant), e (electrical), i (instrument), r (radio) and x (radar)... ususally people dont go for single trade only, a&c / eir they its a combination
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1 million dollar question:

A=airframe
E=electrical
I=instrument
R=radio
C="E"ngine??????????????????????????????

why? engine become C? why not other letter? any history?
one tough DCA question
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QUOTE(ahaw @ Sep 3 2006, 02:15 AM)
trade, we have a (airframe), c (engine/ powerplant), e (electrical), i (instrument), r (radio) and x (radar)... ususally people dont go for single trade only, a&c / eir they its a combination
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skylinestar, i dun knw how to answer your question, sorry smile.gif
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 3 2006, 09:53 AM)
1 million dollar question:

A=airframe
E=electrical
I=instrument
R=radio
C="E"ngine??????????????????????????????

why? engine become C? why not other letter? any history?
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hahahaha i wonder this also ...maybe jazzy can answer this jazzy ..ooo jazzy
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 3 2006, 09:53 AM)
1 million dollar question:

A=airframe
E=electrical
I=instrument
R=radio
C="E"ngine??????????????????????????????

why? engine become C? why not other letter? any history?
one tough DCA question
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maybe C is for the combustion in the engine
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whoa... i dont get the idea till now...
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hey i heard miat is going to subang.. anybody heard bout this?
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yes2 but not officially true la... they dont even built the building yet... untill that time come... sepang will be the main campus... (but some peoples claimed that they manage to see the blueprint of the new campus - anyway it just a rumours ) ;p
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the only thing that is true is the felda aviation school ...already there eventhough not siap lagi ..there are student there
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is it metc?
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I heard you all the way from KL! biggrin.gif
btw, still in BKK. Shud be back next week though...

C=Engine is not logical right?

It started a long time when aviation is at it's infancy..

A license is definitely Airframe (Maintenance)
However there is an Airframe (overhaul) license which is appropriately categorised "B"
Next come C which is the Engine (maintenance). Was there a cat. D? Yes there was...for engine overhaul that is..
So E, I & R is for Electrical, Instrument and Radio respectively. These license category doesn't have an 'overhaul' function...

That's about it.... Is that believeable? biggrin.gif


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hahahaha i wonder this also ...maybe jazzy can answer this jazzy ..ooo jazzy
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hahaha shame on me.... ;p
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omg! both! it's so rewarding to fix such a huge aircraft and watch it fly. and it's so satisfying to watch your bank account grow n grow and know that you're doing well to secure a good future for your loved ones.
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hahaha shame on me.... ;p
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u guys want to know what's the one thing i really dun like about this job? it keeps me away from my beautiful wife for too many looong days and nights.
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Why can't you take you beautiful wife along? biggrin.gif
But look on the bright side... absence make the heart grows fonder... wink.gif


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u guys want to know what's the one thing i really dun like about this job? it keeps me away from my beautiful wife for too many looong days and nights.
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i actually do bring her along. once every alternate trip. but i still miss her on the trips when she stays home.
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hi..i would like to ask..actually how to become aircraft eng? since the mas academy very hard to enter, how about miat? after finishing dip at miat, can directly take the license exam or have to have an experience first? when intake for miat?
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QUOTE(ezi23 @ Sep 14 2006, 12:51 AM)
hi..i would like to ask..actually how to become aircraft eng? since the mas academy very hard to enter, how about miat? after finishing dip at miat, can directly take the license exam or have to have an experience first? when intake for miat?
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what you said that is totally true ..intake for miat is around july and january ...btw i dont know what the situation about the exam requirment is it still greeen light from dca or not ..... i heard there are some problem ...anyone can clarify....... btw jazzy thanksss bro ...pergi holiday kaa????


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there no easy way... even if you already in the industry, there are many factors that will slow ya ambition...

as for miat, now i'm not sure either the graduate student can apply directly after fin. study... like Kabadi84 said, there are some conflict with dca... it always like that...

you may use other option... work as a vendor staff...
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hi kabadi n others.

holiday? no lah.. work dude! but as of last nite I am back biggrin.gif

I think at this point in time, MIAT student on hold for LWTR....



QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 14 2006, 09:54 PM)
what you said that is totally true ..intake for miat is around july and january ...btw i dont know what the situation about the exam requirment is it  still  greeen light from dca or not ..... i heard there are some problem ...anyone can clarify....... btw jazzy thanksss bro ...pergi holiday kaa????
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i miss mine too (when I am away... ) biggrin.gif

QUOTE(kenling @ Sep 13 2006, 12:53 PM)
i actually do bring her along. once every alternate trip. but i still miss her on the trips when she stays home.
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for MIAT, u definitely has to follow AN85. BUT...
u need a total experience on the maintenance of "operating aircraft" over the 36 months period.

FYI, MIAT doesn't have "operating aircraft".
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dont worry about that.... thats why they create 'OJT'... i'm used to go different places to fullfil my experience req. eg; go to unit udara polis sg. besi for a week only to take my propeller signature...

nak seribu daya... dca cannot kacau punye since its a legal document signed and done during structured practikal

ya'll be amaze to see sign and stamp numbaer start with only 3 no. e.g: M5##, very old time lae still works out there icon_idea.gif thats why they call experience icon_rolleyes.gif

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hmm..thx 4 the info everyone. but i still don't get it. if graduate form miat still on hold from dca, does it mean that they can take the exam license after gain an experience(36 months?)? since i don't have any certificate/diploma/degree/experience(just matriculation), what is the best first thing to do to enter this field(study in miat?)? thank you...
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nope there are other example tafe college and apr they provide this kinda training ....apr seem a porpular choice where people welcome u with open arms...with miat be prepare to be intimidated by some huhuhhuh......its depends dude miat is growing strong i think ..apr also keep getting great review by their employer ...choose my fren ...one thing MIat is a MARA instittute where apr is i dont know?? private?? tafe i dont know never got a fren there huhuhuuhuh
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thx..but can anyone tell me a little bit about apr?
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hmmm..i work in this industries..do u really like to do a maintenance on aircraft?well,i do it everyday..kinda a nice job if u really love it...im still trainee and will establish as an engineer on january 2007...salary?i think for basic(new engineer) is RM2800 + ur Technical allawonce+licence cert+dobi = RM4+++....maybe include OT..but engineering for aircraft depends on HOW MANY LICENCE U HAVE...more license more paid la...of course...
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budak tame yeh huhuhuhhuh ............... dude how long do u wait for ya dobi allowance ???
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why dont try transmile?

Date Posted Position Relevant Experience
# 1-Aug-06 Executives / Officers (various Departments) Minimum Diploma in any discipline
# Independent and willing to work long hours
# Conversant in both English and Bahasa Malaysia
# Fresh graduates are encouraged to apply

# 1-Aug-06 Graduate Trainees (Technical) Minimum of SPM with good credits in Mathematics, Physics and English.
# Preferably with relevant aviation training, certification or working experience in the aviation industry
# Conversant in English and Bahasa Malaysia

# 1-Aug-06 Aircraft Technicians Minimum of SPM with relevant aviation training and certification
# Preferably possesses a diploma or degree in any aviation maintenance field.
# Minimum 3 years experience in aircraft maintenance.
# Must be conversant in English.

# 1-Aug-06 Quality Assurance Engineer Minimum 5 years as LAME with DCA LWTR (Dual Category)
# DCA type rating on MD11 / 727-200

# 1-Aug-06 Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer Minimum 3 years on aircraft maintenance with A, C, E, I or R
# Holder of AMEL issued by Malaysian DCA, CAAS, CAA UK or JAR 66
# Preferably rated on MD11 / 727-200

http://www.transmile.com/index.asp?im=job
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 19 2006, 01:49 AM)
budak tame yeh huhuhuhhuh ............... dude how long do u wait for ya dobi allowance ???
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dude...im not TAME la...TAME student later will be sent to MIAT..i hate MIAT..really sux..SO,my uncle(CABLE BEB) said better take TJT...i will pass out next year on january...this DEC i will go UK to take EASA exam..can become engineer faster than TAME student..not all TAME student are genius la..some of them are really bad in their academy...for 5 years u get ur basic allowance only??iya...die la...allowance also not much...better take TJT..after establish can go to EASA using ur own money..i mean salary.Not allowance
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QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Sep 19 2006, 09:11 PM)
dude...im not TAME la...TAME student later will be sent to MIAT..i hate MIAT..really sux..SO,my uncle(CABLE BEB) said better take TJT...i will pass out next year on january...this DEC i will go UK to take EASA exam..can become engineer faster than TAME student..not all TAME student are genius la..some of them are really bad in their academy...for 5 years u get ur basic allowance only??iya...die la...allowance also not much...better take TJT..after establish can go to EASA using ur own money..i mean salary.Not allowance
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what is TJT?
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can you get me the MAS HR phone number coz the number i have cant get through and the website didnt put their HR number... would help me a lot dude...
someone pm'ed me this. can anyone here help ah?
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QUOTE(kenling @ Sep 21 2006, 12:54 AM)
someone pm'ed me this. can anyone here help ah?
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ask him to PM me...im working with MAS...i know their number..smile.gif
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QUOTE(ezi23 @ Sep 20 2006, 12:07 AM)
what is TJT?
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Trainee Junior Technician..only takes 2years to pass out(if u only have SPM) and 6month(for who have diploma)
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ask him to PM me...im working with MAS...i know their number..smile.gif
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Hi, I am sitting SPM this year. I hope to know more about this profession. Can anyone explain to me briefly what's this all about & how's the career path? Thanks ^^
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QUOTE(leewai @ Sep 21 2006, 08:57 PM)
Hi, I am sitting SPM this year. I hope to know more about this profession. Can anyone explain to me briefly what's this all about & how's the career path? Thanks ^^
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u mean aircraft engineer?
U can choose wheater u like Mechanical or Avionic(electric)..
be an engineer is interesting if u Love wht u do coz aircraft engineer is totally different from other engineer.
Being an engineer,u have to know about wht u do and sometimes,u need to solve the problem ASAP.
Salary?
basic is same like engineer out there but u have to collect more license if u want more money.Example like B777 licence for radio is about Rm1+++...so,sometimes,engineer can earn about Rm15K without doing OT.My engineer earn about Rm40K per month...so kaya la mamat tu..No wonder he always do a party at his house and belanja us..

if u want to be in this proffesion,make sure ur math,physic,bm and enlish is good!!!not say very good la but B or A la...im also not good in physic..haha

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I see. What are the licences that you mean? Thanks Bonzaimy ^^!
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Hmmmm...lets say that u are in mechanical side..So,like mechanical,there are lot's of licence that u can collect.In MAS,they also have lot's of aircraft such as B777,B747,A330 etc..

example like u have engine license for B777.MAs will pay u Rm999(example) for this aircraft but if u want to get more money,u can have an engine licence for all aircraft...B777,B747,B737 = RM3000....just for the license dude...every month u will get this allowance...so easy right!!!
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btw dude in tjt is there any type course???.......btw why do u said miat sux??? have u urself go there and learn there ??...for me in acxedemic term miat is just the same as mas ...the only different is the experience where u continously been expose to aircraft ..in miat should i say the aircraft is small but okay its still deliver it purpose ...why i say this cause i now had study in both of them ....btw is just opinion though
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Ooo... so where can I head on after SPM?
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One more thing, does this field require good eyesight? I found such requirement from MAS website. Does it really important to have good eyesight?
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@leewai: it is good that you interested in this industry 'BUT' this is an industry where you really need to do to get it.. unles u have so much money to take exam across the sea and 'cable' thg to help you to get into the industry...
ok first question, do you like working under pressure (it is worse than hearing ya mom babling) for the whole days...
second; spend nothg but devote ya self to the books for years (even after fin. study) only to get 'failed' transcript/cert...
third; willing to teach others from what you've learned?

dont give the answer, its for you to think... for ya first last question, which one you like most; working while studying or studying then working? second last question rclxub.gif depend on medical checkup doh.gif

@Kabadi84: i second that... only people who had gone through all the hard work will appreciate what infront of their eyes ;p

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 21 2006, 11:21 PM)
btw dude in tjt is there any type course???.......btw why do u said miat sux???  have u urself go there and learn there ??...for me in acxedemic term miat is just the same as mas ...the only different is the experience where u continously been expose to aircraft ..in miat should i say the aircraft is small but okay its still deliver it purpose ...why i say this cause i now had study in both of them ....btw is just opinion though
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hmmm..i never enter miat but i asked miat guys and most of them said that MIAT is not good!!Even MAS also now didnt send their trainee at MIAT coz lot's of them fail.Some of them said the lecturer is not good.One of my friend who studied at MIAT said that he also dont know wht he study there and it's like wasting his time..I know coz i asked Miat guy who OJT at MAS...

for TJT,they will only give u B737 type course...i think lv2
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QUOTE(ahaw @ Sep 22 2006, 12:23 AM)
@leewai: it is good that you interested in this industry 'BUT' this is an industry where you really need to do to get it.. unles u have so much money to take exam across the sea and 'cable' thg to help you to get into the industry...
ok  first question, do you like working under pressure (it is worse than hearing ya mom babling) for the whole days...
second; spend nothg but devote ya self to the books for years (even after fin. study) only to get 'failed' transcript/cert...
third; willing to teach others from what you've learned?

dont give the answer, its for you to think... for ya first last question, which one you like most; working while studying or studying then working? second last question  rclxub.gif  depend on medical checkup  doh.gif
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I don't get what you mean here rclxub.gif. What do you mean by 'need to do to get it' and 'take the exam across the sea' ? Sorry, thanks! smile.gif
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Is TAFE Seremban a good place to study Aircraft Maintenance Technology?
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easy to say, its not easy to get ya license, trust me... it different than what they practise to become an engineer out there... pls check bcar section L.

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?cate...de=detail&id=54

currently you have choice to take the license either locally here in malaysia (which is quite hard to pass but cheap), or take it at uk/scotland which cost you more money... you can take a degree in aircraft maint. + license either at glanmorgan (wales) or kingston (uk) provided you already get ya diploma in a/c maint. from approved training school which is MIAT of course...

for ya last question, tafe college do have a lots of problem than miat in terms of getting their approval from dca ... so better not go there.


@bonzaimy: since ya already in the system pls take a good look of ex miat student around you... tell me how many already take their dca exam? ya'll be amaze...


*attention for those who already go to mas 'tjt' aptitude test, ya result out already, so pls contact hr to conform ya interview date ;p
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QUOTE(ahaw @ Sep 22 2006, 07:17 PM)
easy to say, its not easy to get ya license, trust me... it different than what they practise to become an engineer out there... pls check bcar section L.

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?cate...de=detail&id=54

currently you have choice to take the license either locally here in malaysia (which is quite hard to pass but cheap), or take it at uk/scotland which cost you more money... you can take a degree in aircraft maint. + license either at glanmorgan (wales) or kingston (uk) provided you already get ya diploma in a/c maint. from approved training school which is MIAT of course...

for ya last question, tafe college do have a lots of problem than miat in terms of getting their approval from dca ... so better not go there.
@bonzaimy: since ya already in the system pls take a good look of ex miat student around you... tell me how many already take their dca exam?  ya'll be amaze...


*attention for those who already go to mas 'tjt' aptitude test, ya result out already, so pls contact hr to conform ya interview date ;p
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duh...i don know la...most of them told me about this..even my instructor also said like that..dont blame me coz of what they said...sometimes they also dont know why they enter miat..hahaha...just feel pity for them...


Taking exam at DCA is slow..i agree with that but u have to put more effort on study..i saw all the trainee study for HUMAN FACTOR book and is dam thick!!!Even after u apply for the exam,u have to wait for 6 month to get the date and confirmation....

TAFE collage i don know much about it but i hate their shirt(can i say shirt?)..really hard to open when u wanna go toilet coz the suit is come with the shirt.....(aiya...like pomen kereta)
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fyi most of us already sit for the exam... and yes it takes time to see the progress... but not only human factor... have you seen caaipcaaip? both part 1 and part 2? can you finish. it? hehehe most people think its not worth it to go through the book, not even 'miat' mas trainee... why? there are no institution in the world that can make you succes unless you learn it ya self... dont blame others when you failed shakehead.gif ask those 'miat' tame student, did they do revision with hj zahir? or mr. hyder? or others engggineer who come to give 'extra' class during night and weekends. do they aware of the situation? siapa yang berkehendakkan ilmu? the techer or the student? then is it wise for the teacher spoon feed the student for the rest of his/her life? man you need to go and experience it ya self, not only rely on others comments smile.gif

anyway you still need to wait another 3 years before submit ya can dca form right? unsure.gif

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huhuhh ahaw ahaw... dah dah sibuk je gie study hang tu nak pekse minggu depan ??? amacam are u ready my frend ...btw plez be ready with "hantu " it will help u dearly iin ur exam ....
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u guys are babbling bcar,caaip,kingston,dca,bla2.. and names of people that they don't even care to know to these newbies. don't get to carried away guys. the topic is aircraft repair engineer. make it useful for others.

btw, i don't think u need MIAT dip to enter glemorgan or kingston. but u will have to go thru complete course duration which i think around 4 yrs. with any related cert/dip, u will get exempted accordingly (depend on the university). just choose any place of study wisely or go straight to airlines apprenticeship.
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hi,

I also hope to work as an aircraft engineer. however, i dont have good eyesight (i need to wear spec) and i am naturally handicapped for my left leg (i used to wear a prostetic). as the topic say it is to repair/maintain aircraft then the plane landed or whatever, do i need to climb up climb down to check the plane myself, or i will be a senior which order other people to repair and my job is only to ensure that the plane is safe?

if i have to climb up and down to check the plane, i doubt myself can do it sad.gif however, is there any job relating to aircraft, like to make aeroplane with boeing company or other? biggrin.gif and i can sit in office, design and plan for the structure, etc etc.

now i am just form4 student and i have to plan what to study already because i wanted to go oversea (australia) to study! and working around aeroplane is my ambition since i was small.

i have found 3 courses which is suitable for me i think, the link below are their website. pls do give me some advice and comments. thank you!!!


Bachelor of Engineering (Aerospace Avionics)

Bachelor of Aerospace Engineering

Bachelor of Engineering - Mechanical and Space Engineering


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@lazo: with that degree, you can apply to any aircraft maint. organization.... e.g; sapura tech. (works with simulator of coz) details ask kabadi.... then at mas you can apply for technical services enggineer, or avionics workshop enggineers... if you want to become a lecturer, be happy to send ya resume to miat sweat.gif

anyway this is additional info about Aircraft Maintenance Trainee;

http://hq.malaysiaairlines.com/mys/eng/abo...s/tame/tame.asp

@kabadi: exam lepas raya... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(ahaw @ Sep 25 2006, 06:26 AM)
@lazo: with that degree, you can apply to any aircraft maint. organization.... e.g; sapura tech. (works with simulator of coz) details ask kabadi.... then at mas you can apply for technical services enggineer, or avionics workshop enggineers... if you want to become a lecturer, be happy to send ya resume to miat  sweat.gif

anyway this is additional info about Aircraft Maintenance Trainee;

http://hq.malaysiaairlines.com/mys/eng/abo...s/tame/tame.asp

@kabadi: exam lepas raya...  thumbup.gif
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what do you mean by simulator? i am so interested to CERTIFY an aircraft their fitness to fly as in the MAS website u showed me.

however, their website say this sad.gif i am worry that i can't qualify

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D. Medical Checkup
Individuals who are mentally and physically fit with good eyesight and are not colour blind will be selected.


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kabadi!!!.... anyway maintaining aircraft simulator of course... almost the same as the real cockpit but the diff. is that it just a simulator, full electronics ;p

about the medical checkup, leave it to the panel doctors... usually they just close one eye, but if you have color blind... sorry choose mechanical trade instead biggrin.gif ;p

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Thank you very much for your information!!
Really hope my naturally handicapped and short-sightedness does not affect my ambition sad.gif

So should I join the MAS LAME or take aerospace engineering courses first? Is the MAS LAME recognized internationally or just in malaysia?

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Academically, the 'license', which is recognised as equivalent to a honours degree, will enable the LAME to further his studies in obtaining a Masters or even a Doctorate in various fields.
So when we graduate the training or obtained the license, do we have chance for a convo or to wear a robe? My parents always hope i can wear a robe and finish a university degree level!

Last but not least, if i took the MAS LAME, and what will I work in the airport after the training? Will I be driving the cars, loading/unloading largage or doing things like this or will be a better-position one? biggrin.gif

Thanks.
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Thank you very much for your information!!
Really hope my naturally handicapped and short-sightedness does not affect my ambition sad.gif

So should I join the MAS LAME or take aerospace engineering courses first? Is the MAS LAME recognized internationally or just in malaysia?
So when we graduate the training or obtained the license, do we have chance for a convo or to wear a robe? My parents always hope i can wear a robe and finish a university degree level!

Last but not least, if i took the MAS LAME, and what will I work in the airport after the training? Will I be driving the cars, loading/unloading largage or doing things like this or will be a better-position one? biggrin.gif

Thanks.
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seems like you r still not really understand the job-scope. Well, if u take blar blar blar degree in aerospace engineering or what ever, it is useless stuff. To work as a LAE/LAME, u r required to obtain a license but not degree. eventhough u r a degree holder, u still need to be a TAME 1st before u work as a LAME. Everything is starts from TAME 1st. A LAME who born from...... wherever, he will b still a LAME, the license is recognised worldwidely. So no worries, u'll never need to convert your license, u can work in any country u like hehe...

for those who driving the "ketam" or loading stuff, they were not LAME larh... hahaha biggrin.gif just an ordinary ground support staff.



p/s: i'm from penang too, currently in form 6. (frm CLB)

kabadi...../ahaw/ or...... whoever... correct me if i'm wrong rclxms.gif

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!! helo. i am from jitsin form4 now wink.gif started planning my future already. haha

that's cool. i will look for more infomation about TAME n LAME ^^

SPM -> TAME -> LAME

Can anyone here explain more about the TAME/LAME career scope? what is included in their job?


thank you
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QUOTE(lazo @ Sep 25 2006, 09:06 PM)
!! helo. i am from jitsin form4 now wink.gif started planning my future already. haha

that's cool. i will look for more infomation about TAME n LAME ^^

SPM -> TAME -> LAME

Can anyone here explain more about the TAME/LAME career scope? what is included in their job?
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if u want be an licensed aircraft engineer, you should start from TAME hehe... the career scope, which part u dun understand? I may eleborate it to you.
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Do u have any idea where I can start TAME?

Is it to join the MAS's training?


I found this from SIA website

QUOTE("Singapore Airlines")
Technical Services Engineer
Full/Part Time: Full Time
Location: Singapore,

Description You should possess a recognized University Degree, preferably with Honours in Mechanical, Electrical, Electronics or Aeronautical Engineering.

The Job
You will work with a team of specialists engaging in a broad spectrum of engineering activities, including evaluation of aircraft and jet engine performance; management of aircraft electronics and software; evaluation and implementation of advanced in-flight passenger entertainment systems; designing repairs for aircraft structures and systems; as well as providing consultancy services to various maintenance centres serving the airline.
If I were to work with SIA, should i get a degree for above mentioned courses or I can take the training and get license thru MAS's training, then go to work for SIA? (sounds pengkhianat, haha)

Besides, which institution offer the TAME -> LAME courses/lisence?

For MAS's training, i think that there will be a bond with MAS after finishing their training right? If so, anyone know how many years do they bond you?

thanks

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that's some infomation at the previous page, rewind and read bout it bro. cheers...

10 years bond with MAS.
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So I should join MAS's training and after 5 years I will be recognized LAME? I see many has regretted because they took diploma/degree but it means nothing in aircraft maintainence. And MIAT students are not so welcomed in MAS sad.gif

However, the 10 years bonds with MAS is a big challenge >_<

Anyone know how much is the basic salary after the 5 years training with MAS? Besides, do MAS offer commision during the 5 years?

About the license, when we come out from MAS 5 years training, we will have 1 license at least right? And between the 10 years bonding, I can take other license to increase my payment? Last but not least, i need more elaboration about LAME -> LWTR. I don't know what is LWTR.

After the 10 years bond with MAS, and with some licenses, am I able to work EVERYWHERE in the world as a LAE, meaning to work with other airlines.

Thanks.
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LWTR= license without type rating
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Yes i know it is license without type rating, have read it in pages before this, but i dont understand what it is =.=
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after u graduated from MIAT , u will be just holding LWTR and u can't touch any plane yet until u obtain your type rating license. Have to undergo training for a year plus to obtain the engineer license.
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i've added a few of you to my msn liao i hope i can tlak with you directly for more information about this career sometime. thank you ^^
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lazo,
put your questions here, someone will surely reponse and will benefit the forumers here biggrin.gif

thats the idea of having a forum! tongue.gif

QUOTE(lazo @ Sep 27 2006, 07:52 PM)
i've added a few of you to my msn liao i hope i can tlak with you directly for more information about this career sometime. thank you ^^
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sorry teddie, a minor correction here.

when you said you can't touch the aircraft is that you are not authorized to certify anything. with LWTR you can actually become a Technician, which entitle you to 'touch' the aircraft to your heart content! Hehe..

Yes, at least a year...more like 1.5 years further training into type, after taking the type exam will get you established as a Licensed Engineer at the end of your training.... which you (teddie) will go through IF you're in the final list... good luck dude! biggrin.gif

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after u graduated from MIAT , u will be just holding LWTR and u can't touch any plane yet until u obtain your type rating license. Have to undergo training for a year plus to obtain the engineer license.
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wowow finally sifu was back! thanks for correction. hope to c u again in the future!
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just a minor correct, nothing to it, but thanx.. I have been out of the country on and off.. getting the stations ready for 'bigger' aircrafts operations.. also fasting month.. don't have much time (and energy) to do this as often as I like tongue.gif

but I am monitoring the thread... good that it is still alive! rclxms.gif

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wowow finally sifu was back! thanks for correction. hope to c u again in the future!
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So I should join MAS's training and after 5 years I will be recognized LAME? I see many has regretted because they took diploma/degree but it means nothing in aircraft maintainence. And MIAT students are not so welcomed in MAS

However, the 10 years bonds with MAS is a big challenge >_<

Anyone know how much is the basic salary after the 5 years training with MAS? Besides, do MAS offer commision during the 5 years?

About the license, when we come out from MAS 5 years training, we will have 1 license at least right? And between the 10 years bonding, I can take other license to increase my payment? Last but not least, i need more elaboration about LAME -> LWTR. I only know LWTR = licensed without type rating, but no info about it.

After the 10 years bond with MAS, and with some licenses, am I able to work EVERYWHERE in the world as a LAE, meaning to work with other airlines.

Besides this, commen sense tells me that working with SIA is definately has more privilages than for MAS. But will it be too late to work with them at the age of 33 (18+15 years bond with MAS)? Or maybe at the age of 33, I already has many licenses and my salary at all/most of the airlines will be quite high and does not need to hop to another airlines?
my questions above biggrin.gif need comment and advices. thanks ^^

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heheheh about salary ..and bond yah....first yes for salary is okay as a matter a fact it is lucrative enough a new lae can earn 5000- 8000 mininum when pass out .... during your training you will be given an elaun about 500- 700 ... i donot know i got 700

bond... james bond.... huhuhhuh why do u worry much about the bond the bond is normal la u learn for them for free ...so bond is okay for 10 years ...but once i heard 15 years but nvrmind ...mas is a great place on what u can learn about this industry there u can get license do study with the kind of enviroment that is quite relaxing to work with.. trust me this many of the people here prefer mas rather than sia ..bla bla .. why first is in malaysia ..second ...its not as stress full as other airline...so my advice is if u really want to be in this indusrty...mas is the perfect place ...if you dont have money ...but if you do have money go to uk(kingston..glenmarie eh silap glenmogan) get their license ..then go to an airline get the type rating .then go work anywhere

p/s: with our license yes you can work everywhere ...but need to comply to their respective dca or faa or .... there will be some conversion neede like air legislation.. idont know specific but just minor thing jer.....


another p/s: yo jazzy plez check wheter what im saying is right .just trying to help the lad ...cheers


yet another p/s: where is mr ashraf....oh i forgot he will be sititng his exam this week ...good luck broo!!!!! thumbup.gif

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I see! that start with MAS is a good choice also la. biggrin.gif

How about the requirements? I am wearing specs ler, do you have friends working there also wear spec? i scare i dont qualified sad.gif

besides, do you all do alot of physical training? like run here run there? or always need to climb up the top of the plane to check things~?

thanks~
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I see! that start with MAS is a good choice also la. biggrin.gif

How about the requirements? I am wearing specs ler, do you have friends working there also wear spec? i scare i dont qualified sad.gif

besides, do you all do alot of physical training? like run here run there? or always need to climb up the top of the plane to check things~?

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mas is the smatrtest choice btw airasia also provide this ask jazzy and teddie.... but if u have no luck what so ever can also chose miat,apr,tafe ....remember no bond if u go here huhuhuhuuh

dude im wearing spec dude laugh.gif ... and where do u hear phisical training mane ade beb those are just for pilot i think??? huhuhuh no need to worry but if you color blind yes need to worry huhuuhhuh

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no la actually i have naturally handicapped for my left leg sad.gif i borned with a bone lesser than normal people. so i am wearing prostetic to walk, but also can walk without it doh.gif just worry this engineering need alot of physic so i may not be able to cope with it biggrin.gif so now i think my problem solve biggrin.gif xD form4 now, join you 2 years later. haha.

so you're with MAS now? at where they do the training? do they offer accomodation means we need to stay in a hostel or we go home everyday~?

besides this, can you provide me the other airlines' tame/lame training courses website? thanks alot!

thanks~

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all engineering training currently at kompleks b subang (except for 'metc' trainee, their building at kompleks a)....and mas do not provide trainees any sort of accomodation ;p

but u'll survive of coz biggrin.gif

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but, if i'm not mistaken, TAME with mas need at least dip rite? cannot strait from spm. correct me if i'm wrong. kabadi, u r from miat rite? so now u are tame or training under mas?
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but, if i'm not mistaken, TAME with mas need at least dip rite? cannot strait from spm. correct me if i'm wrong. kabadi, u r from miat rite? so now u are tame or training under mas?
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those are the new requirement ...before this they take straight rom spm...me huhhuhuh im just an ordinar miat student just garduated now in mas as trainee foe supposely 6 month .... my batch is one of the luckiest that can take the lwtr ...other are on probation ..

to lazo...hmmmm if you can walk normal like other people i suppose is okay ....if u use tongkat ali maybe a lil bit problem ..
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 28 2006, 11:34 PM)
those are the new requirement ...before this they take straight rom spm...me huhhuhuh im just an ordinar miat student just garduated now in mas as trainee foe supposely 6 month .... my batch is one of the luckiest that can take the lwtr ...other are on probation ..

to lazo...hmmmm if you can walk normal like other people i suppose is okay ....if u use tongkat ali maybe a lil bit problem ..
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so what happen to other miat graduate? how if they want to take the license? how about the future of the miat student(not graduate yet)?

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i not only can walk normally, also can cycle, play bsketball, etc etc biggrin.gif:D

!! canot straight away from SPM liao?? is this true?
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so what happen to other miat graduate? how if they want to take the license? how about the future of the miat student(not graduate yet)?
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supposely they now still under disscussion with dca ..dont know whether had setel or not ...mane junior nie ...???? any news beb???


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QUOTE(lazo @ Sep 29 2006, 06:52 AM)
i not only  can walk normally, also can cycle, play bsketball, etc etc biggrin.gif:D

!! canot straight away from SPM liao?? is this true?
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i dont know this is true or not ..hmmm i thiink teddie is straight from spm but he got air asia ... i think mas now more strict lor
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how to enter air asia trainee?
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Hmm, have Airasia's training website?

hope i can enter MAS after my SPM (2008 years enter) !!
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kabadi.... yes i apply it with my spm ONLY. hahaha... i entered final interview, now waiting for their call in these 2 weeks time. Hope i can be selected among 64 candidates.
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@kabadi: come work lor, not good resting at home for long time imho next week ya line 09 bro (if i not mistaken) ;p

@teddie: i know you can do it.... v['',]

@ezi23: .... icon_question.gif sorry no idea sweat.gif

@lazo: maybe you can enter tjt programe (using spm)but 2008? hope they dont change the man in charge of the department by that time wink.gif

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What's TJT program?

If SPM qualification is not accepted by MAS by 2008, then I have to go to institution to study and get my Diploma first? So if this happen, what choices of institution do I have? MIAT only?

God bless me!

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trainee junior technician... its only for 2 years, add another 3 years then you can sit for your lwtr...

its not that mas not accept (spm only qualification) after 2008, it just that a policies set by dept. manager, if by 2008 they change the dept. manager maybe the new manager will change for new policies.. thats all.

but for now on stay focus on ya studies.... as for now (for new intake), the trainees are from miat , but they do take others who hold engg. dip. holder graduated from local univ.... depend on 'HR' maybe?
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HR? =.= dont use so many shortform la i dont know all these

yea i have talked with my parents also

they call me if interested then go ahead and apply all i interested, can get in or not still depend on luck, and may not be so successful due to my handicap sad.gif

since it is 2 years ahead so i will just try my best in my studies now first, try to sapu all 1A in malay, english, add mt and physic, hope to get higher chance to get in the team biggrin.gif


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thanks kabadi, hopt that i will not disapoint u haha....

lazo, HR=human resources
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for mas, try to find cable. coz there so many out there using cable(so power).maybe only strong candidate can get through..so study hard beb.hehe..correct me if i'm wrong.
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Guys,last year i helped my instructor to choose the resume form for who applying Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.So many form.I think about 1000++ and some of them never open yet coz we r so tired.Check the form until 9pm.Really pity for them who not qualified even they have interest in this thing.Some of them put funny thing in their envolope like their full picture with family and boyfriend.So,i hope who applying for TAME,TJT,AMT etc,u all better send it fast or just go to HR building coz if u send late,they wont read ur form....

Hey,a few month back,i heard my SETE said that they open AMT for staff children only.Not for all la....i wonder who will pass da exam coz i saw the exam paper is quite hard..
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Wah! need relationship only can get in meh~? sad.gif haih, i may be coming got miat liao
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QUOTE(lazo @ Sep 29 2006, 10:27 PM)
Wah! need relationship only can get in meh~? sad.gif haih, i may be coming got miat liao
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yup there seem when anything involving mas a 'relationship' is needed ...but dont worry dude they are not stupid enough to let go a good candidate if they see one ....
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sometimes, even strong academic candidate failed during interview...
1 candidate interviewed by 6 interviewer huhu for more than 60 minutes... tough man.... sweat.gif (usually happen to miat's student) , but for those who have 'cable' thgy hmm.. maybe ya'll pass easily. sad but its a fact shakehead.gif

*to thread starter pls change thread title to License Aircraft Maintenance Enggineer

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Sigh, not to boast or whatever, but i am really confident about my academic result. scoring A1/A2 for the 4 qualification subject is no problem for me. May now looking around for MAS's kawan doh.gif
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but your better consider all subject u take.it might help you since nowadays student are so clever. getting a dip myb another option since apr tame also want dip.but u hve to pay 4 apr.otherwise u can consider bout miat.i'm also looking foward about this....hehehe..
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 29 2006, 10:38 PM)
yup there seem when anything involving mas a 'relationship' is needed  ...but dont worry dude they are not stupid enough to let go a good candidate if they see one ....
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yup,u r right.But now,my uncle said that MAS will open for children staff and non children staff in different intake...guess u should apply faster
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if my uncle interview u,i guess u all die la..he is a manager there in training school and before i enter MAS,everytime i go to his house,he will asked me lot's of question that i didnt know.So hard.Not even single question i can answer.Very hard lio.Lucky on that day when interview session,he didnt interview me.Im so Lucky.....I think when i went to MIAT for interview,it's quite easy coz i went to SABAH to took the exam.Only 6 people attend the interview.I guess SABAH people prefer to go to collage.Bad for me coz didnt bring my certificate there and when interview time,the guy look at me and smile coz i didnt bring my cert..Cheh...im in national service lio...how to get da cert....anyway,it's a nice thing to do coz met SABAh friends!!!!hahaha
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for people who onlay have SPM cert,they will take an easy for u coz u only know the basic!!!so,they wont ask a hard question...That's the advantage lol..
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dude, you just missed the boat!
it was advertised awhile back including at AA website. I don't think they will be advertising for another intake in the immediate future... so lookout for other opportunities..

good luck.

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how to enter air asia trainee?
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Very true. Having a strong academic qualification does not necessarily mean you will succeed during the interview. It helps, yes.

Honestly, in this field, 'bookworms' are not suitable. It is during the interview process that the 'right' suitable candidates identified.

Having 'cable' helps in getting the interview but Not necessarily mean you get the 'job'... must maintain 'quality' mah....but then again I can't say about MAS way of doing 'things'...







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sometimes, even strong academic candidate failed during interview...
1 candidate interviewed by 6 interviewer huhu for more than 60 minutes... tough man.... sweat.gif  (usually happen to miat's student) , but for those who have 'cable' thgy hmm.. maybe ya'll pass easily. sad but its a fact  shakehead.gif

*to thread starter pls change thread title to License Aircraft Maintenance Enggineer
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MAS........ mesti ada sedara just joking lor.. i think i heard uitm also doing the same course ...is this true???
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yes, they were planning about it awhile back.. I met the person in charge of the faculty. however what I heard last was, it's scrapped. Don't know how true, will call that particular person to find out....

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MAS........ mesti ada sedara just joking lor..  i think i heard uitm also doing the same course ...is this true???
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i notice that sum of you mentioned that miat does not offer test for DCA license..correct me if im wrong but they actually do provide those tests..plus the facilities at miat is not bad at all...

u guyz read about the group of students who dismantle a rosak skyhawk..and they actually re-essembled it to work?

about the high rate of failure in miat..this is bcoz they set the passing mark at >75..so anything below 75 is considered failed..that is the explanation to the high number of failures there..mebe mas didnt agree with that...

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 30 2006, 01:34 PM)
MAS........ mesti ada sedara just joking lor..  i think i heard uitm also doing the same course ...is this true???
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u r right la..Mesti Ada Sedara..hahaha...im not sure UITM have this course but Politeknik Shah Alam is the first Poli have this course
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Sep 30 2006, 02:17 PM)
i notice that sum of you mentioned that miat does not offer test for DCA license..correct me if im wrong but they actually do provide those tests..plus the facilities at miat is not bad at all...

u guyz read about the group of students who dismantle a rosak skyhawk..and they actually re-essembled it to work?

about the high rate of failure in miat..this is bcoz they set the passing mark at >75..so anything below 75 is considered failed..that is the explanation to the high number of failures there..mebe mas didnt agree with that...
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correction..passing mark for trainee in MAS also 75 and above
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@bonzaimy: he just give his opinion.... ;p

@aztechx: that just a mock up test smile.gif

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yup..supposely miat provide the oportunity to take the lwtr exam but due to some moron who think cahnging to uni is thebest idea it become a lil bit messy as some of the system in miat is being modified to suite its uni title but not the requirement of dca....there a long arguement about this thing but i dont know wheter its have setel or not ....

ps: hehehe btw this is not to malukan haa but result on some of the subjuct at mas also not very convincing ....to tell u the truth is the same as miat huhuhuhuuh... its okay people likely to judge miat this and that because we sure poor on experience but plezz la give us the oportunity to learn and experience before telling bad thing about us ..crap n everything ..hehehehh marah pulak ..but yup this is true i even consider not choosing mas for this ..but as i tell u people i think we need to prove them wrong it wouldnt hurt although already hurt a bit huhuhuhh laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Oct 1 2006, 12:55 AM)
yup..supposely miat provide the oportunity to take the lwtr exam but due to some moron who think cahnging to uni is thebest idea it become a lil bit messy  as some of the system in miat is being modified to suite its uni title but not the requirement of dca....there a long arguement about this thing but i dont know wheter its have setel or not ....

ps: hehehe btw this is not to malukan haa but result on some of the subjuct at mas also not very convincing ....to tell u the truth is the same as miat huhuhuhuuh... its okay people likely to judge miat this and that because we sure poor on experience but plezz la give us the oportunity to learn and experience before telling bad thing about us ..crap n everything ..hehehehh marah pulak ..but yup this is true i even consider not choosing mas for this ..but as i tell u people i think we need to prove them wrong it wouldnt hurt although already hurt a bit huhuhuhh laugh.gif
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ERk.......emmm.....No comment...coz i will change to Emirates when i become engineer!!!Hahahaha...for me,MIAT student is OK but some of them when do OJt at MAS,they just sit around and didnt help the technician or Engineer.But some of them,is good.I dont know about mechanical coz im avinocs and as far as i know,avionics Miat student is good!!!very helpfull.Maybe they lack of handsjob....

What u mean hurt?Which part?

It's up to a person if they want to get Diploma or not.If they want to get Dip,they can enter MIAT but if they think it's wasting his time,maybe can join MAS.AirAsia also i think has open for their Trainee Engineer coz i read about it on newspaper!!!

About LWTR,i dont want to talk about it coz my target now to complete all modules in UK..YAY,,this DEC i will go to UK!! rclxm9.gif


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@bonzaimy: thats the diff. between mas trainee and miat trainee; most of em only knows about their trade only but ex-miat trainee knows both the a&c and avionics trade. because we learn both trade.
anyway good luck, wish you all the best with ya modules in UK ;p

@kabadi: you hurt i hurt ;p

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QUOTE(ahaw @ Oct 1 2006, 11:27 AM)
@bonzaimy: thats the diff. between mas trainee and miat trainee; most of em only knows about their trade only but ex-miat trainee knows both the a&c and avionics trade. because we learn both trade.
anyway good luck, wish you all the best with ya modules in UK ;p

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QUOTE(ahaw @ Sep 30 2006, 09:41 PM)
@bonzaimy: he just give his opinion.... ;p

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ala... a lil bit like a percubaan test lor see if u ready or not... for me now its a lil hard on miat because their becoming more n more uni then a training school..even hyder said this.....
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YEs..i know and lucky me coz most of MIAt trainee will be sent to Avionics..hahaha....
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Congrats teddie.. honeymoon over... hard times coming up! hahaha..
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no larh sir, hard time is over, honeymoon is coming rite now! woohoo....
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Its all depends how you take things...
some say honeymon, some say otherwise.. whatever it is.. its just 4 yrs of 'hardship' before you earn the big bucks...

good n great things coming your way............. have fun!

I will!!! rclxm9.gif

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no larh sir, hard time is over, honeymoon is coming rite now! woohoo....
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wht job ???
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TAME at air asia

QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Oct 4 2006, 09:05 PM)
Its all depends how you take things...
some say honeymon, some say otherwise.. whatever it is.. its just 4 yrs of 'hardship' before you earn the big bucks... 

good n great things coming your way............. have fun!

I will!!!  rclxm9.gif
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huhu tahniah... 4? make it 5 la.... 1 st year just get the feels hows thgs done in aviation way ;p
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erm... any hints from u ahaw? make it 5 keh?
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Hey,conratulation...guess u must work hard after this...err...normally final year u will struggle to death coz have to take QA oral...anyway,wait for me to become engineer and i will go to that airlines.. rclxms.gif
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So far there's no invitation yet, however the Enginering Training Head is away on duty travel and I am filling his shoes... may be yes, maybe no.. What ever it is, you gonna see more of me from November onwards for the next 4 years.. biggrin.gif

Happy Birthday in advance eh! What present!!! rclxms.gif

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TAME at air asia
haha sir, so will u attend the "buka puasa" with ah boss next thursday? guess what, that day will be my birthday too! great great birthday party for me rclxms.gif
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So far there's no invitation yet, however the Enginering Training Head is away on duty travel and I am filling his shoes... may be yes, maybe no.. What ever it is, you gonna see more of me from November onwards for the next 4 years..  biggrin.gif

Happy Birthday in advance eh! What present!!!  rclxms.gif
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We have actually drawn up your training program for the next four years starting November. However, engineering being engineering... paperwork problems, blah, blah, blah, the internal trainees which supposed to start this month, will start on november and the balance (your group) will start december... thats how I see things gonna be at this point of time... the ball is in engineering's court.

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nov? i thought it will be started on dec? haha... thx jazzy, this time i'm really become your apprentice! haha notworthy.gif  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Oct 6 2006, 12:44 PM)
We have actually drawn up your training program for the next four years starting November. However, engineering being engineering... paperwork problems, blah, blah, blah, the internal trainees which supposed to start this month, will start on november and the balance (your group) will start december... thats how I see things gonna be at this point of time... the ball is in engineering's court.
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Yes, AK own staff for career development. Some have the necessary exposure, just need a proper development. Some of them can pass out within 2 years, average.

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oic jazzy, thx for the explanation. internal trainees? Means those AK staff doing internal transfer to this programme kah? blink.gif
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Yes, AK own staff for career development. Some have the necessary exposure, just need a proper development. Some of them can pass out within 2 years, average.
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wuyoo sory ...been busy in line 9 ..wuaah teddie kongrats may our future of bless with good things ...may our dream come true ...laaa rupenye jazzy nie jadi instructor u huhuhuhuuh...weh how does jazzy look hensem kaa hahahaahahah.... btw how many ur batch ...is all the training be done in malaysia ??? where in malaysia ???
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Oct 7 2006, 01:52 AM)
wuyoo sory ...been busy in line 9 ..wuaah teddie kongrats may our future of bless with good things ...may our dream come true ...laaa rupenye jazzy nie jadi instructor u huhuhuhuuh...weh how does jazzy look hensem kaa hahahaahahah.... btw how many ur batch ...is all the training be done in malaysia ??? where in malaysia ???
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Hey dude..U r in LINE 9?U same batch with Liu?The nerd boy?By da way,line 9 is not bz.A330 is like a death hangar...

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Oct 7 2006, 01:52 AM)
wuyoo sory ...been busy in line 9 ..wuaah teddie kongrats may our future of bless with good things ...may our dream come true ...laaa rupenye jazzy nie jadi instructor u huhuhuhuuh...weh how does jazzy look hensem kaa hahahaahahah.... btw how many ur batch ...is all the training be done in malaysia ??? where in malaysia ???
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hahahah that why la busy.. busy sleeping la dude ...dude liu is tame kan?? me only tjt huhuhuhuhh btw im ...good teddie keep up the graet work
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Oct 8 2006, 01:19 PM)
hahahah that why la busy.. busy sleeping la dude ...dude liu is tame kan?? me only tjt huhuhuhuhh btw im ...good teddie keep up the graet work
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Oh my GOD!!!U r TJT?Crap....in Line9,there's only 2 batch there.TJT85 and TAME(forgot already)...orr.......maybe u r same batch with NAZA..hahahaha.....she's TJT 92...Line 9 is quite boring there.No work to do.Lucky the lead engineer is cool.

Working at B747 is cool coz can do Mood.
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bonzaimy,
was that 'Mood' or 'Mod.'? which is short for modifications?
BTW, whats a TJT? tongue.gif

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Oh my GOD!!!U r TJT?Crap....in Line9,there's only 2 batch there.TJT85 and TAME(forgot already)...orr.......maybe u r same batch with NAZA..hahahaha.....she's TJT 92...Line 9 is quite boring there.No work to do.Lucky the lead engineer is cool.

Working at B747 is cool coz can do Mood.
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hey.. i got things to after office hours... tongue.gif
although there are invitations to do part time lecturing... see how lah.. tongue.gif

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@kbonzaimy: kabadi = A&C

@jazzy: sifu giving lecture after school? ;p
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hohoh..i always thought it spell MOD but when i checked back,it's MOOD..hell ya!!I still dont know what is the meaning of MOOD.What i know is just do a new things inside da aircraft like do a mood lighting for first class etc...
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Dear Teddie,
May I get some information from you regarding the selection of the AA LAME programme? Thanks in advance.
1. How do you approach the mechanical aptitud test? How many people did they select from the test?
2. what are the next stages for the selection? Are they sort of the "HUNTING" for the right attitude or they ask some technical stuffs?

Besides, I would like to know about the "right attitude" that they are hunting for?

Congratulation Teddie!
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It sounds sarcastic....... =.="
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Dear Teddie,
May I get some information from you regarding the selection of the AA LAME programme? Thanks in advance.
1. How do you approach the mechanical aptitud test? How many people did they select from the test?
2. what are the next stages for the selection? Are they sort of the "HUNTING" for the right attitude or they ask some technical stuffs?

Besides, I would like to know about the "right attitude" that they are hunting for?

Congratulation Teddie!
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sorry for my belated reply, computer kenna virus.
1. they select 200 candidates for the exam, 125 candidates qualified for 1st interview. I've no tips for this round, i didn't read/ revise anything for preparetion. The test consists of 60 MCQs and 1 essay. Time given=1 hour. I settle the test in half an hour time, so no worries mate.
2. right attitude? erm... i'm wondering too. I keep on joking with the panels and be wise. Try to answer their question wisely. i turn the interview into an imformal 1 haha.... they keep on laughing.
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Congratulations teddy....
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crapzzz,
With regards to the 'right attitude' rather than asking the interviewee(teddie), you better ask the interviewer instead as it is the interviewer that set the questions, standards and expectations... tongue.gif

QUOTE(crapzzz @ Oct 9 2006, 09:25 PM)
Dear Teddie,
May I get some information from you regarding the selection of the AA LAME programme? Thanks in advance.
1. How do you approach the mechanical aptitud test? How many people did they select from the test?
2. what are the next stages for the selection? Are they sort of the "HUNTING" for the right attitude or they ask some technical stuffs?

Besides, I would like to know about the "right attitude" that they are hunting for?

Congratulation Teddie!
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QUOTE(teddie @ Oct 12 2006, 11:31 AM)
....sorry [snip]
2. right attitude? erm... i'm wondering too. I keep on joking with the panels and be wise. Try to answer their question wisely. i turn the interview into an imformal 1 haha.... they keep on laughing.
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hahaha! That is what you thought! We were the ones that had the last laugh... rclxms.gif

Turning the interview into an informal one is just a camouflage to 'see' the real you... It is more than it meet the eyes... whistling.gif Call it 'sneaky' tongue.gif

But at the end of the day, we all had fun while accomplishing the objectives.. thats the culture here... rclxm9.gif


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They say it's better late than never...

The thread topic should be spelt "Licenced" rather than "Licence".
Also the Bahasa Melayu translation for "L.A.M.E.( Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer )" would be "Jurutera Penyenggaraan Kapalterbang Berlesen".
Take note of the word "Berlesen" which is "Licenced"... cool.gif

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QUOTE(teddie @ Oct 12 2006, 11:31 AM)
sorry for my belated reply, computer kenna virus.
1. they select 200 candidates for the exam, 125 candidates qualified for 1st interview. I've no tips for this round, i didn't read/ revise anything for preparetion. The test consists of 60 MCQs and 1 essay. Time given=1 hour. I settle the test in half an hour time, so no worries mate.
2. right attitude? erm... i'm wondering too. I keep on joking with the panels and be wise. Try to answer their question wisely. i turn the interview into an imformal 1 haha.... they keep on laughing.

thx mizie!
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Haizz, i went for the mechanical aptitude test and i thought i can pass it but then sadly, i didnt receive any calls from Air Asia. So basically, i have failed the test..... Nvm, I will still apply for it next year..... i keep my fingers crossed for that.. smile.gif and tahnks for replying!

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crapzzz,
With regards to the 'right attitude' rather than asking the interviewee(teddie), you better ask the interviewer instead as it is the interviewer that set the questions, standards and expectations... tongue.gif
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Ohh! So u are the interviewer! Should have noticed it earlier tongue.gif
So, do u mind answering my inquiries? 1.How should we, the candidates approach the mechanical aptitude test and may i noe what is the passing marks, and do the english essay plays an important role? 2.What is the right attitude that you, the interviewers are hunting for? thanks....
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QUOTE(crapzzz @ Oct 12 2006, 04:40 PM)
Haizz, i went for the mechanical aptitude test and i thought i can pass it but then sadly, i didnt receive any calls from Air Asia. So basically, i have failed the test..... Nvm, I will still apply for it next year..... i keep my fingers crossed for that..  smile.gif and tahnks for replying!
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if u waiting 4 next year, what u going to do rite now? r u study elsewhere?
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QUOTE(crapzzz @ Oct 12 2006, 04:40 PM)
Haizz, i went for the mechanical aptitude test and i thought i can pass it but then sadly, i didnt receive any calls from Air Asia. So basically, i have failed the test..... Nvm, I will still apply for it next year..... i keep my fingers crossed for that..  smile.gif and tahnks for replying!
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if u waiting 4 next year, what u going to do rite now? r u study elsewhere? just asking.. smile.gif
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Well.. I was! tongue.gif
Sure.. no problemo.

1. The mechanical aptitude test is no different from an IQ test but it is made in such a way to see if you are mentally inclined towards 'mechanical' things. There is NO passing mark but the marks of the group are averaged and anything above average are considered eligible. We also looked at your school certs and your SPM results... before we finalised the list. And yes, the essay also carry weight in the sense that it shows your command of english and how structured you mind is in order to explain the process of, in this case, replacing a window pane.

2. The so call right attitude, kinda hard to put in words here, but from the moment you stepped in the room you are being watched and scrutinised. The way you dressed yourself up, greet, sit , talk and the approach in answering the questions will tell us who you really are. Your facial expression will also show how serious and honest you are with the answering... Its such an informal atmosphere that made you relaxed and show your true self.. teddie said we were laughing and making jokes...
Not many people are cut out to be an engineer, let alone an aircraft maintenance engineer. This is an entirely different ball game altogether and it takes one to know one, so in our guts we will know who are the right candidates. Having an excellent qualifications does NOT guarantee you a place.

I hope this satisfy your enquiry. Glad to be in the position to assist.


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Ohh! So u are the interviewer! Should have noticed it earlier tongue.gif
So, do u mind answering my inquiries? 1.How should we, the candidates approach the mechanical aptitude test and may i noe what is the passing marks, and do the english essay plays an important role? 2.What is the right attitude that you, the interviewers are hunting for? thanks....
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Thanks for the reply sir! But sir, i did not send in any school certs as i applied online by sending email to Mr Salleh Mohamed. So, is that a killing factor that makes me dropped out from the list? But i do send in my CV.

BTW sir, what do you all see in the school certs? Is it it must be all rounded? As in containing everything?
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Not at all.
No, that is not the critical factor as we will looked at the certs during the interview session.

Nolah.. having the 'perfect' all rounded certs is not the criteria, as that is NOT what we're looking for. Although it helps us in establishing who or what you are. you will be called also if we're curious about you.. and we sensed that you may have the potential... biggrin.gif


QUOTE(crapzzz @ Oct 13 2006, 12:28 AM)

Thanks for the reply sir! But sir, i did not send in any school certs as i applied online by sending email to Mr Salleh Mohamed. So, is that a killing factor that makes me dropped out from the list? But i do send in my CV.

BTW sir, what do you all see in the school certs? Is it it must be all rounded? As in containing everything?
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Not at all.
No, that is not the critical factor as we will looked at the certs during the interview session.

Nolah.. having the 'perfect' all rounded certs is not the criteria, as that is NOT what we're looking for. Although it helps us in establishing who or what you are. you will be called also if we're curious about you.. and we sensed that you may have the potential... biggrin.gif
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So, once we are above average means that we are eligible for the first interview? Is there anything that we can do about the test? i mean to prepare for it? icon_question.gif
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Correct! Anyone AT and above average, we will call! That is why the number of interviewee was more than a hundred.. slightly more than half that turned up for the aptitude test...

Prepare for the test? I dun think so.. How would you prepare for an IQ test?

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So, once we are above average means that we are eligible for the first interview? Is there anything that we can do about the test? i mean to prepare for it? icon_question.gif
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But i felt that i can do most of the questions, i finish it quite early as in in 30 minutes for the MCQs... Thanks for your reply, i will try again next year, will there be any intake in this year? or will it be done annually?
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That to me is 'overconfidence'.. personally, most guys ( and gals ) did quite well in the MCQ BUT, the essay was miserable.. I was disappointed with the standard of english.. although very few did exceptionally well, some even used bahasa words.. a few send it in without the essay being completed, some even have only one word, "Firstly.."
Come to think of it, the majority of you started the essay with 'firstly'...
On the whole the standard of essay was bad and I had to remark all the papers again.. I barely sleep that nite.. vmad.gif

I do not know if there will ever be one next year OR the year after, however, you can always prepare for the next time. Please do improve your english. This a mandatory prerequisite requirement in aviation industry...


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But i felt that i can do most of the questions, i finish it quite early as in in 30 minutes for the MCQs... Thanks for your reply, i will try again next year, will there be any intake in this year? or will it be done annually?
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Oct 13 2006, 01:09 AM)
That to me is 'overconfidence'.. personally, most guys ( and gals ) did quite well in the MCQ BUT, the essay was miserable.. I was disappointed with the standard of  english.. although very few did exceptionally well, some even used bahasa words.. a few send it in without the essay being completed, some even have only one word, "Firstly.."
Come to think of it, the majority of you started the essay with 'firstly'...
On the whole the standard of essay was bad and I had to remark all the papers again.. I barely sleep that nite..  vmad.gif 

I do not know if there will ever be one next year OR the year after, however, you can always prepare for the next time. Please do improve your english. This a mandatory prerequisite requirement in aviation industry...
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Thanks for the comment... hopefully thr will be another intake next year. Sir, if one did well in the mcq, but did quite badly in the essay part, it will deter someone from being called for the interview rite?

p/s: sorry sir, thr is an internet connection interruption yesterday nite.....
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talking about mcq and the essay test, hmmm, you do make a good job teddie... hope to see you in the dca exam hall ;p

@crapzzz: good luck icon_rolleyes.gif

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whoa president of MC has gave the perfect answer here hehe... tony is such a nice leader i ever met..! rclxms.gif
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Like I mentioned earlier, the essay does have an effect on your overall results. I guess you have to be really good, right?

Now that you know your weakness, work on it ya!

No wonder you went 'offline'.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(crapzzz @ Oct 13 2006, 07:51 AM)
Thanks for the comment... hopefully thr will be another intake next year. Sir, if one did well in the mcq, but did quite badly in the essay part, it will deter someone from being called for the interview rite?

p/s: sorry sir, thr is an internet connection interruption yesterday nite.....
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please.. not here! Thats the other 'side' of me.. tongue.gif

Well, thats Tony! and the culture we have in AA... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(teddie @ Oct 13 2006, 12:23 PM)
whoa president of MC has gave the perfect answer here hehe... tony is such a nice leader i ever met..! rclxms.gif
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unikl-miat already open for jan intake. need opinions plz....bout miat or anything..
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ezi,
you gotta ask yourself what do you want.

If you enter MIAT, which is definitely OK, at the end of the day you will get your:

DIPLOMA IN AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY (Manufacture)

DIPLOMA IN AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY (Composite)

DIPLOMA IN AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY (Avionics)

if this is what you want... is this is what you want? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ezi23 @ Oct 13 2006, 09:34 PM)
unikl-miat already open for jan intake. need opinions plz....bout miat or anything..
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talking about mcq and the essay test, hmmm, you do make a good job teddie...  hope to see you in the dca exam hall ;p

@crapzzz: good luck  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks ahaw!

QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Oct 13 2006, 04:58 PM)
Like I mentioned earlier, the essay does have an effect on your overall results. I guess you have to be really good, right?

Now that you know your weakness, work on it ya!

No wonder you went 'offline'..  tongue.gif

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Really good? not really.......

yeah, sure, i will work on my weaknesses! smile.gif

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QUOTE(ahaw @ Oct 13 2006, 12:18 PM)
talking about mcq and the essay test, hmmm, you do make a good job teddie...  hope to see you in the dca exam hall ;p


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hahaha... yea hope to c u in the dca exam hall? u r examiner kah? ohmy.gif
how do u knw i did a great job in my test haha....

thanks anyway smile.gif
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yo jazzy ur tame programe will be done here ke??? i mean te exam will based at dca ka?? or uk???....
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We have local capabilities. No reason why we should be going to the UK right? rclxms.gif


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yo jazzy ur tame programe will be done here ke??? i mean te exam will based at dca ka?? or uk???....
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ezi,
you gotta ask yourself what do you want.

If you enter MIAT, which is definitely OK, at the end of the day you will get your:

DIPLOMA IN AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY (Manufacture)

DIPLOMA IN AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY (Composite)

DIPLOMA IN AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY (Avionics)

if this is what you want...  is this is what you want?  biggrin.gif
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hmm..if i enter miat, what can i do after my study to get the licence? how about apr? thx..
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Oct 13 2006, 12:52 AM)
Correct! Anyone AT and above average, we will call! That is why the number of interviewee was more than a hundred.. slightly more than half that turned up for the aptitude test...

Prepare for the test? I dun think so.. How would you prepare for an IQ test?
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Sir, what do u mean by AT?
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sorry for my ignorance, what is APR?
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borderline mark..

QUOTE(crapzzz @ Oct 16 2006, 10:39 PM)
Sir, what do u mean by AT?
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Aero-Precision Resources.
A private institution that conducts its own apprentice training program. You pay your own... tongue.gif

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sorry for my ignorance, what is APR?
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What is lacking in MIAT is the 'hands on'/practical training on live aircraft. You better get yourself in MAS, AirAsia or even Transmile for this important requirement. How you get yourself in, thats for you to worry... (for the time being..) tongue.gif

DCA used to accept if there is about 1 year practical, but NOT anymore...

QUOTE(ezi23 @ Oct 15 2006, 12:45 AM)
hmm..if i enter miat, what can i do after my study to get the licence? how about apr? thx..
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Aero-Precision Resources.
A private institution that conducts its own apprentice training program. You pay your own...  tongue.gif
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oic... cikgu, thx rclxms.gif
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Latest update. We might want the candidates to take their licence in the UK.... good news to every one.. esp. teddie.. heheh rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Oct 14 2006, 12:23 PM)
yo jazzy ur tame programe will be done here ke??? i mean te exam will based at dca ka?? or uk???....
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Oct 18 2006, 08:50 PM)
Latest update. We might want the candidates to take their licence in the UK.... good news to every one.. esp. teddie.. heheh  rclxms.gif
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wahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif i hope so cikgu, oh well, i havent receive the call for AK yet for medical check up.
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Paperwork (letter of offer, contract/bond etc) is just about ready... soon.. very very soon. Just finish your exam first k. I already told them about it and they said its ok, you'll be in the second group... december intake. Good luck and all the best. thumbup.gif


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wahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  i hope so cikgu, oh well, i havent receive the call for AK yet for medical check up.
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Paperwork (letter of offer, contract/bond etc) is just about ready... soon.. very very soon. Just finish your exam first k. I already told them about it and they said its ok, you'll be in the second group... december intake. Good luck and all the best.  thumbup.gif
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me me??? what about me????

eheheheh

p/s: Teddy, shhhhhh. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Oct 18 2006, 11:04 PM)
Paperwork (letter of offer, contract/bond etc) is just about ready... soon.. very very soon. Just finish your exam first k. I already told them about it and they said its ok, you'll be in the second group... december intake. Good luck and all the best.  thumbup.gif
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ooo icic... thx sir! hopefully we can get the UK license hehe.... smile.gif

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me me??? what about me????

eheheheh

p/s: Teddy, shhhhhh.  whistling.gif
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haha... "she" is not wearing specs or neither the sexy girl when the dinner.. hahha.... sure u knw the answer rite cikgu rclxms.gif
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You too then! tongue.gif

New member huh? Welcome aboard.... rclxms.gif

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me me??? what about me????

eheheheh

p/s: Teddy, shhhhhh.  whistling.gif
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UK licence will be an alternate if the process of getting the DCA licence is taking too long time as we know, there is a shortage of surveyors and they can't cope with the industry demands... the company will decide whats best. We want you to get your licence in 3 years time! rclxms.gif

Yeah, I know who she (bizzydified) is... tongue.gif

QUOTE(teddie @ Oct 19 2006, 12:28 AM)
ooo icic... thx sir! hopefully we can get the UK license hehe.... smile.gif
haha... "she" is not wearing specs or neither the sexy girl when the dinner.. hahha.... sure u knw the answer rite cikgu rclxms.gif
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UK licence will be an alternate if the process of getting the DCA licence is taking too long time as we know, there is a shortage of surveyors and they can't cope with the industry demands... the company will decide whats best. We want you to get your licence in 3 years time!  rclxms.gif

Yeah, I know who she (bizzydified) is...  tongue.gif
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and hopefully not DCA's haha... biggrin.gif
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jazzy i heard now uk license need 5 years of experience ...is this true i heard this from my frend who are going for the license also
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I don't know. Have to find this out. Why worry, we've got a lot of time to do this, proper... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Oct 19 2006, 09:49 PM)
jazzy i heard now uk license need 5 years of experience ...is this true i heard this from my frend who are going for the license also
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heheheh just that kinda considering to get easa license seem to wait for oral is a lil bit long .....like some of my frend here
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Oct 17 2006, 04:18 PM)
borderline mark..
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I see, thanks.

Btw, may I know the reputation of the aircraft maintenance engineer programme offered in TAFE seremban?
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What 'aircraft maintenance engineer programme' offered by TAFE?


QUOTE(crapzzz @ Oct 21 2006, 02:07 AM)
I see, thanks.

Btw, may I know the reputation of the aircraft maintenance engineer programme offered in TAFE seremban?
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QUOTE(teddie @ Oct 19 2006, 12:28 AM)
ooo icic... thx sir! hopefully we can get the UK license hehe.... smile.gif
haha... "she" is not wearing specs or neither the sexy girl when the dinner.. hahha.... sure u knw the answer rite cikgu  rclxms.gif
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heyy!! u traitor!! now i cant keep my personality mysterious anymore... huhu tongue.gif

QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Oct 19 2006, 06:06 AM)
UK licence will be an alternate if the process of getting the DCA licence is taking too long time as we know, there is a shortage of surveyors and they can't cope with the industry demands... the company will decide whats best. We want you to get your licence in 3 years time!  rclxms.gif

Yeah, I know who she (bizzydified) is...  tongue.gif
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heheh cikgu, how u doin? ( depan cikgu, behave2~ thumbup.gif )

*sorry, off topic~
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heyy!! u traitor!! now i  cant keep my personality mysterious anymore... huhu  tongue.gif
heheh cikgu, how u doin? ( depan cikgu, behave2~  thumbup.gif  )

u ask me not to tell your name mah... huhu...
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after spm, straightly apply for this position with any airlines hehe...
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Hi! this is my first post here....very interesting thread....somehow the topic is closely related to my passion and interest. Keep up the good work!


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ya lor..EASA need minimum 5 years experience.How come can be an engineer in 3 years?Otherwise,u have to convert ur licence at DCA also.
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Yes. Make sure also you scored well in your English, Maths and Science subjects.. thumbup.gif

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after spm, straightly apply for this position with any airlines hehe...
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for my situation, 4 years course, allowance 800 bucks
starting pay= 4.5k

smile.gif cheers
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QUOTE(teddie @ Oct 23 2006, 09:50 AM)
for my situation, 4 years course, allowance 800 bucks
starting pay= 4.5k

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Pretty good. rclxms.gif
Pilots fly people across the world, you guys make it possible. biggrin.gif
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Pretty good. rclxms.gif
Pilots fly people across the world, you guys make it possible. biggrin.gif
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hope to c u in the future, wow... u r flying triple 7-300 series!
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hope to c u in the future, wow... u r flying triple 7-300 series!
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All triple share common type rating for pilots. biggrin.gif
I dont think it is the same with maintenance engineers right?
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Oct 23 2006, 10:45 AM)
All triple share common type rating for pilots. biggrin.gif
I dont think it is the same with maintenance engineers right?
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ops..got good new...on 2008,dca will convert to EASA.My uncle just told me about this.He said that he's now sure weather a person who already do their exam half way at UK can do here.But 80% said they want a fresh student lol....huh...
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QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Oct 26 2006, 08:22 PM)
ops..got good new...on 2008,dca will convert to EASA.My uncle just told me about this.He said that he's now sure weather a person who already do their exam half way at UK can do here.But 80% said they want a fresh student lol....huh...
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your uncle work in DCA? even they convert to dca, do we still have to convert the license, eg, take malaysia airleg?

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I have mentioned this earlier and this is quoted from the Director of Airworthiness, DCA awhile back during a discussion between the aviation industry and the DCA.

Our DCA will adopt EASA licensing features WITH modifications. The DCA WILL still issue the same licence and it is therefore still be DCA Licence, NOT EASA licence.




QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Oct 26 2006, 08:22 PM)
ops..got good new...on 2008,dca will convert to EASA.My uncle just told me about this.He said that he's now sure weather a person who already do their exam half way at UK can do here.But 80% said they want a fresh student lol....huh...
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Yes, if you have EASA licence, you still have to convert to Malaysian DCA licence and take airleg exam.

EASA if for European requirements.. we're NOT under europe/EU etc.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 26 2006, 10:07 PM)
your uncle work in DCA? even they convert to dca, do we still have to convert the license, eg, take malaysia airleg?
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mr jazzy, i already prepare for easa (b2 trade) early next year, exam at gatwick maybe. for the time being i also waiting/queue for my dca exam date ('c' trade). like you said before our dca dont have enough surveyor = long time to finish. so my question here, is it wise to go to both easa and dca? or should i wait and see?

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ahaw,u taking B2 licence?Me on 8Dec this year.Hopefully can pass.My exam at Gatwick.Now trying to find the right place to stay
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try backpackers.com, nahh... i dont know cuz i dont have the experience myself... hope you can share yours next time ;p
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ahaw, where is 747 shot? biggrin.gif
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ahaw,
If I were you, I'd go for both! What have you got to loose?
Once you got your EASA licence, just keep it current. Easy to 'cari makan' elsewhere! biggrin.gif
Would it be a problem for you to pass our DCA exam? I think not... rclxms.gif
Good luck dude!

QUOTE(ahaw @ Oct 28 2006, 07:31 PM)
mr jazzy, i already prepare for easa (b2 trade) early next year, exam at gatwick maybe. for the time being i also waiting/queue for my dca exam date ('c' trade). like you said before our dca dont have enough surveyor = long time to finish. so my question here, is it wise to go to both easa and dca? or should i wait and see?

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wooo..i also want to try DCA and sit for mechanical exam but they need 5 years experience..guess i finish my EASA first before can take DCA exam.Anyone of you already pass DCA exam and waiting for QA oral?i need to study AN and collect work schedule now lol
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huhuhuhlama tak jumpaa....wow got new people also ..weh bonzaimy is it true or just rumorrr.....if true kinda okay but i heard if easa applid the oral exam still exist ...due to it effectiveness too prove someone is proven or not
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ahaw, where is 747 shot?  biggrin.gif
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yes yes maybe next week, i still cuti raya... you r lucky cuz now we have 74-100!

@jazzy: icon_rolleyes.gif

@bonzaimy: you already talk to 2 of em... jazzy and kabadi

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Oct 29 2006, 02:03 AM)
huhuhuhlama tak jumpaa....wow got new people also ..weh bonzaimy is it true or just rumorrr.....if true kinda okay but i heard if easa applid the oral exam still exist ...due to it effectiveness too prove someone is proven or not
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is it ahmad kiak huhuhhuhuh..... weh amir bile nak buat open house ...hmmm if that so i think i wil wait if that is true huhuhhu gonnaa siasat more
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Wth....ahmad kiah useless la.That guy sama je macam Hj ZUL.....hehe...by da way,Mat Kiah is not a manager...
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no real name la kabadi... open house? come2 open everyday smile.gif ... (sorry off topic)

and why call ya superior like that, its like you making fun of ya self... anyway if the rumours true we can expect healthy atmosphere here in m'sia.

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im not making fun of my self.It's true.U want me to lie about this?Dude,this is the environment that we all have to go...Some boss is really annoying and do u think i will say this in front of him?haha...of course not...I really dont know how he can become a ..............(dont know wht his position)......sometimes when company is desperate to find people,they will randomly pick any people that not they think is good to put in that position.Like my training school now....This is the worst la.Even some manager also dun know why a not qualified person can get there.HArdly to believe. vmad.gif Good Company will have a good management...and good management will have a good people to manage their company.if this crap work in this company and do his work like so so only,do u think that company will have a good future?Think Twice icon_rolleyes.gif
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i dont said you lie.. it just that, intentionally expose his/her name to public is not a professional way to correct things. yes i do sometimes put real names but we must try to express our feelings in the correct way since our post r read by peoples from all around the world. they dont say you bad , they would think that mas as overall is s****s. be rasional, i do learn this after few post regarding miat, mas and dca. ( for the time being mas still our rice bowl, lets discuss it so others understand )


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wwooot everybody lets just end it..yeh..kang mod nampak tak pasai pasai abih thread kite ...yo bonzaimy what line are u now ...we can organize a gathering for lyn a/c maintenance crew
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well said ahaw. lets not get too personal. Maybe bonzaimy you would like to start a new thread about dissatisfaction working in the aviation industry or certain aviation company in view how we can improve things up, if not ourselves. Since you are in training, lets start discussing about training? Surely I can be active there too! We all can! tongue.gif

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i dont said you lie.. it just that, intentionally expose his/her name to public is not a professional way to correct things. yes i do sometimes put real names but we must try to express our feelings in the correct way since our post r read by peoples from all around the world. they dont say you bad , they would think that mas as overall is s****s. be rasional, i do learn this after few post regarding miat, mas and dca. ( for the time being mas still our rice bowl, lets discuss it so others understand )
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some question....if an aircraft is at the end of lease and changing to a new penyewa which is not on ur state...what document will accompany it..will it need to de- register..is it fly under c condition//////
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add question, is it apply to both easa and faa?

@bonzaimy: know anythg about egt nite?

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If you guys know your Air Legislation well, you should be able to answer this.. biggrin.gif

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cikgu jazzy, do u mind to talk bout the course module at here? tongue.gif
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I don't think its appropriate as it is out of topic.. tongue.gif

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but that was not the intention of the thread starter.

teddie why don't you start another thread? Call it Aviation Training - programme and its future? biggrin.gif

I think we have answered most if not ALL of kyan queries anyway and close the thread...

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but those who have troublesome bout the prgramme can refer to this topic what hehe... (example me)  rclxms.gif
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okay cikgu, anyway, i can only c the line maintenance office in lcct, what about base maintenance? So, any interesting stuff to share recently?
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EGT nite?Yeah..it's Engineering Night.As i know,if you want to go,you have to pay Rm50.I dont know what they have there but it's quite expensive la.Did you know that Trainee night will be on Dec?Yeah,it's true cause they all already planed it since Hj Zul was there...i think Hj ZUl will come to Trainee NIte.Well,i didnt go for the meeting cause all the poyo and gila pangkat person there(my SATO)...not mention anyone ok but Trainee Nite im not sure have to pay or not.Last day,Training School also do trainee night and each one have to pay Rm20 for the gathering but you know what,not more than 20 poeple pay for the trainee night.If they ask for money,hell ya,i will not coming...

By da way,my EASA exam have to postpone cause it clash with my 737-400 course.I hate when it is become like this.Before this,i alrady asked SETE and he said that no course on that day and what happen now?i have to pay for postpone fee and to pay for cancellation booking for hostel.Crap.....all those guy when i asked also make dont know.Sometimes i really pissed off with them expecially my Sato who not concern about our problem...Even when i want to see him also,he's not there and always BANG me....aiyoo..really frustrated....money money money...

You guys know that on 2008 that MRO will take Subang Hangar?im afraid they take our free ticket couse on that time,we are not MAS staff already.Maybe certain advantage they take away from us.....hmmm...MRo is AIROD right!!!so rich la that company whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Oct 30 2006, 11:33 PM)
wwooot everybody lets just end it..yeh..kang mod nampak tak pasai pasai abih thread kite ...yo bonzaimy what line are u now ...we can organize a gathering for lyn a/c maintenance crew
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im avionic lol...not AnC...now line ................secret...wakaka..always change line la..so bored...kena jual
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Oct 31 2006, 09:05 AM)
well said ahaw. lets not get too personal. Maybe bonzaimy you would like to start a new thread about dissatisfaction working in the aviation industry or certain aviation company in view how we can improve things up, if not ourselves. Since you are in training, lets start discussing about training? Surely I can be active there too!  We all can! tongue.gif

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im not talking bad about the company...im talking bad about the person who incharge....Cheh...i hate when they talking bad about us.....that what happen to me there and not a trainee talknig bad about me but S+T+.....u know what i mean.Just because i have relative there then he talking bad about me.He said that i enter that company because my my ..tuuut.....plus,i dont do work at hangar and when engineer ask me to do work,he said that i will ask them"do u know who am i?"Can you just sit down there and do nothing?It's not only make my name in that company become worst but my ......Tuut....... too...SO,when i go to that person and asked him why he do that,he just say,NOP..i DONT SAY ANYTHING... vmad.gif i know who lie and who tell the truth..that's why i want to establish as soon as possible cause i dont want to see their face again.I want Khusnizam back......he's so good and a good SETE ever...oh man...miss him so much......really helpfull person.. sad.gif
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There isn't a base maintenance but a hangar maintenance group. This is just to cater the light A checks whilst the heavier checks are done out of house.

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okay cikgu, anyway, i can only c the line maintenance office in lcct, what about base maintenance? So, any interesting stuff to share recently?
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huhuhuhuh bonzaimy hang sungguh emotional la huhuhhhh ..i think it not just u elt like that kite serupa la beb huhuhuhhu.btw what is ur estimated budget for ur first easa try out ...care to share....im planing to do it but still blur laaa
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kabadi... zed ticket rm877 pegi balik, one exam paper fee 29 pound, makan hehe pandai2 la, bilek hmmm... nak try m'sian hall... first sit dlm rm 2-3 K tapi x tau bonzaimy budget berapa....

@jazzy: is it true that aa send their a/c to sia for heavy maint.?

@bonzaimy : cool....

@teddie : sorry cuz i dont have camera with me... but now we have 74-100 that belong to saudi in our care... we found 15'' crt on the upper deck. big and bulky, what a weird ship... short oso

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the 741 is like a fat 73 huhuhhuh....hmmmm that why la wanna ask ...some of my frend here said under 2k can manange dah... weh ahaw i think i will be joining u guys lets go together ....
p/s: just had my loan approved 24hour only huhuhuuu
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=( 741 hilang kot haha...
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wah...buat loan...hehehe..

well,u can stay at malaysian hall cause it's cheaper but i tell u what.It's not that easy to book that hostel.I've tried already.Normally,they will let u stay for about 1-2 days only.After that,u have to go for another hostel.

My budget?emmm...wait,let me calculate first

EASA exam paper(i take 3 paper) - RM609
Hostel for 3days 2 night - RM77(for normal day) + RM112(week day) = RM301
Underground Train+Tube+bus = RM200 (from victoria to Gatwick really expansive)
Meal - RM300
Airport Tax - RM300(Dulu murah skang dah naik RM20.Siot je)

So,roughly the total is RM1710..hehe
Maybe you can bring some money there.LIke me,i only prepare my money for train and tube cause i have AffinBank Debit Card(promote beb).I think u all should apply for this card since the min requirement is 18years old.Incase for emergency,u maybe will used this card.It has MASTERCARD on it and reconize world wide.Nak apply credit card x cukup duit....hehehe

wei,im taking this exam on 12January since my establishment on 3January.I will also send my next exam form on 30thMay when i reach there.You want me to send your form cause posting the application form is quite expensive.Pos Malaysia take RM77 to post ur mail while others like DHL etc i think more expensive.It takes 1week to reach there.OR maybe 2 weeks.Maybe u can try DHL etc to get it fast.

GOT IT? icon_rolleyes.gif
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sweat.gif For those who want to apply for this JOB:-


Malaysia Airlines invites qualified and ambitious school leavers to aspire to an exciting career as a Aircraft Maintenance Trainee. This programme is tailor-made to develop and empower young individuals to be licensed aircraft maintenance engineers (LAME). The Aircraft Maintenance Engineer's Licenses are endorsed by the Department of Civil Aviation (DCA), which directly reports to the Ministry of Transport.

The applications are processed by the Human Resources and the Technical Training Department.

The Aircraft Maintenance Trainee programme is divided into two programmes:
1. Mechanical Aircraft Engineering Programme, which comprises the airframe, engine and electrical trades; and
2. Avionics Aircraft Engineering Programme, which comprises the electrical, instrument and radio trades.

SCOPE OF WORK



The responsibilities of LAME in accordance with the Malaysian Civil Aviation Regulations 1996 are to:



1. Certify for the release to service (CRS) of any maintenance work carried out on a civil aircraft (highest category being public transport). Maintenance means any one or combination of overhaul, repair, inspection, replacement, modification or defect rectification of an aircraft or its components.

2. Certify for the completion of the requirements of a maintenance schedule (CMR - Certificate of Maintenance Review).

3. Certify aircraft for their fitness for flight.

The fulfilment of the above certifications (among other legal requirements) are mandatory before DCA can issue a certificate of airworthiness (COFA) to render any aircraft fit to fly.

THE SELECTION PROCESS



All qualified candidates are required to undergo the following procedures before being selected.

A. Entry Requirements
Interested candidates must possess the following minimum qualifications in Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM) or Sijil Pelajaran Vokasional Malaysia (SPVM): Bahasa Malaysia : 4B
Physics : 4B
Mathematics or Additional Mathematics : 4B
English : 4B

B. Aptitude Test
The test comprises the following:
1. Intelligence test and mechanical reasoning
2. Mathematics and science
3. English

C. Interview Process

D. Medical Checkup
Individuals who are mentally and physically fit with good eyesight and are not colour blind will be selected.

E. Induction Process
Upon final acceptance, the candidates will undergo an induction programme for enrolment and a briefing on the company rules and regulations, the training centre facilities and the main features of the training programme.

THE TRAINING PROGRAMME



The Training Facilities



1. Classroom sessions/computer based training/simulators
The trainee will attend the theoretical studies in classrooms comprising of class lectures and further supplemented by computer based training (CBT) facilities and simulators. Aircraft and workshop visits are also required.

2. Avionics/Mechanical Workshop
This programme offers the trainees the right balance of theoretical studies and practical training. The trainees are also required to undergo practical training on mechanical/avionics workshops and aircraft standard practices to develop their engineering and maintenance skills.

3. Zodiac Aircraft Plant Assembly
After acquiring the necessary knowledge and skills, they will also be exposed to aircraft manufacturing, development process and the mechanics of flying.


4. Workshop/Hangar Work Areas
To further enhance knowledge, the trainees will undergo on-the-job training (OJT) on maintenance tasks in various workshops and hangars in Subang, KLIA and other locations as required. Apart from that, the trainees are also required to undergo OJT in maintenance management areas such as quality assurance, technical services, materials management, among others.

5. Libraries/Technical Publications Office
To assist the trainees in their studies and research, MAS has excellent library facilities which includes a mini library and a Technical Publication Office in Subang and the main library in Malaysia Airlines Academy (MAS Academy), Kelana Jaya.

Career Development
Upon successful completion of the training program & DCA and MAS Quality Assurance Written And Oral Examinations, the trainees will finally be established as a LAME and assigned to various work areas and line stations in Malaysia.

Apart from being a LAME, career prospects include promotion opportunities to management or senior management levels within the company.

Academically, the 'license', which is recognised as equivalent to a honours degree, will enable the LAME to further his studies in obtaining a Masters or even a Doctorate in various fields.

Training Programme
After successful completion of a structured training programme on the maintenance of aircraft, trainees will be established as Licensed Aircraft Engineers. The training period will be approximately 5 years


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NOT TRUE.

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@jazzy: is it true that aa send their a/c to sia for heavy maint.?


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what about ur daily plan .. estimated arrived ...estimated arrived for exxam ...london to gatwick is how long ..dude if u clear this up ur help is deeply and really appriciated and i promise u i belaje u mee kari at cafe huhjhuhhuh btw this is me kabadi84 im at his house (mr ashraf)... a guide because people do want to tel always tell pandai pandai laaa plezz broo
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QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Nov 13 2006, 09:24 PM)
what about ur daily plan .. estimated arrived ...estimated arrived for exxam ...london to gatwick is how long ..dude if u clear this up ur help is deeply and really appriciated and i promise u i belaje u mee kari at cafe huhjhuhhuh btw this is me kabadi84 im at his house (mr ashraf)... a guide because people do want to tel always tell pandai pandai laaa plezz broo
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lol...mr ashraf?hmmm....my classmate also name ashraf and now he's at line 6

From KUL-LONDON = 12hours..maybe 13..who knows
From LONDON,u can take a TUBE which cost u around 4.92pound.U can go to Victoria(if u stay there) and any other places.Be sure to find the nearesr hostel next to the TUBE cause u wont take a long walk from TUBE station to ur hostel.But i suggest u to take hostel near to Victoria cause it's very easy and lot's of hostel there.

From Victoria to GAtwick,u can take a train(normal train) which cost u around 14pound(2 ways) and it takes about 30minutes to reach GATWICK.After u reach GATWICK,u can take a bus to go to the exam hall.The bus is free...

WEll,that's it.i think u should not worried about the accomondation.All will be fine there.By da way,i take the exam on 30thMARCH.anybody want to follow me?hehe rolleyes.gif
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hmmmm 30th march okay jugak tu btw sape lagi yang ikut lu bro ...any other frend followin
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agak2 budget brapa kena ada, kalau cukup aku pun nak pi jugak 30march ni,,

bila lagi hah exam tu ada? every month???
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I'm in this TAME programme also.Currently undergoing my training with MAS(1st year).Anyone here from TAME 68?
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Nov 17 2006, 05:53 PM)
hmmmm 30th march okay jugak tu btw sape lagi yang ikut lu bro ...any other frend followin
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setau aku,yang g ngan aku,budak kelas aku sorang and ader mamat junior aku yang dah establish.His name is Suresh.U know him?He's an avionic section.Now he's at line 2.Planning to stay longer there.Cause at that time,i already establish..hopefully so la..hehehe


QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Nov 19 2006, 12:06 AM)
agak2 budget brapa kena ada, kalau cukup aku pun nak pi jugak 30march ni,,

bila lagi hah exam tu ada? every month???
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exam tu every month ada tapi not all time the sit is empty.U have to book earlier if u want to take exam at gatwick or manchester.But at manchester,u need lot's of money.Hehehe....exam will be on every 8th or 11th of the month.Every friday.Only march have 30th....so,anybody want to go.Maybe can have some fun there..haha..i add 2 more module.So,total 5 module.Emm..talking about budget,i think minimum is RM2000..itu pun dah boleh survive dah..my friend only bring RM700 also can survive there.He went there for 1week..See,it depends on ur need actually.If u want to go shopping,of course la have to get ready lot's of money.Like me,i dont think i will go for shopping..no money la... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(ah_hwan @ Nov 19 2006, 10:30 PM)
I'm in this TAME programme also.Currently undergoing my training with MAS(1st year).Anyone here from TAME 68?
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Oh....i thought MAS dont take TAME already..Now change to AMT right..u avionics or mechanical?im avionics
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MAS or MHS?
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you mean malaysian helicopter service... MHS? and what the question?

@jazzy: where aa send their a/c for heavy check?
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QUOTE(ah_hwan @ Nov 19 2006, 10:30 PM)
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wah TAME 68...
say my hello to suzie mitw...
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weh jum aaa gie machesterr hahahaah how much will be needed to addd

p/s; baru semanagat ambik examm huhuhuhuhuhuh rclxm9.gif

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wah TAME 68...
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--iklan2---

yay found the link back!!

btw cikgu jazzy, is it possible if i get today's pics from you? if not nvmla just trying my luck here.

have a niceee weekend evrybody~
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Actually TAME 68 was the last intake for TAME(with a minimal of SPM qualification).The intake was January 2006.We are the 1st batch which follows the EASA syllabus.After that they renamed it to AMT and the minimum qualification for AMT is Diploma level.
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you 'lost' the link?

pix? yes u can. pm me and give me your email...
good luck for the next 3 weeks of 'OJT' tongue.gif


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--iklan2---

yay found the link back!!

btw cikgu jazzy, is it possible if i get today's pics from you? if not nvmla just trying my luck here.

have a niceee weekend evrybody~
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weh jum aaa gie machesterr hahahaah how much will be needed to addd

p/s; baru semanagat ambik examm huhuhuhuhuhuh rclxm9.gif
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it's quite pricy if u go manchester alone.If u go with friends,maybe it's cheap because u can share hotel together.From heathrow,u have to take bus to go ther elol or train.Quite expensive if u go alone...

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