haa..mizi is my buddy n kabadi is my sr..

first of all..aviation is all about rules n regulation. as long as u follow what's written on the papers, u r as good as an aircraft engineer can be. 2nd, academic qualification dun matter much, experience is more valuable...at least for now. if u r fresh spm, dip, or deg in whatever things other than aviation specific course, u are as good as zero. age no matter i guess, as long as u willing to study a bit.

how to get in?
1. thru company training program. e.g mas academy. probably u secure urself a job after u get thru it. duration: 4-5 yrs to LWTR?
2. thru private training school. e.g. APR. not much idea, a few mths in course than u can work with any company sooner. once in company, collect experience n study to go for LAME. duration: 4-6 yrs to LWTR?
3. thru MIAT. u got a dip and things necessary to go for LAME. duration: 4 yrs (includes dip duration) to LWTR (if all goes well like kabadi)
4. there are other places but not much info.eg tafe college?

the trick is, LWTR require some work experience. but u cannot touch aircraft without any experience. and it's also an exam so u need to study for it. this is where the training program make or break u. one more thing, LWTR is *THE* license to get to become engineer, it's License Without Type Rating. no lesen needed if wana live as technician/mechanic for the rest of ur career.
correct me of any info here if im wrong,anybody...

p/s: hey kabadi, what trait u go for? A? C? wah..miat can mass produce LAME nowadays..me go 4 heli

for reference...

APR page
http://www.aeroprecision.com.my/training/main.htm

GE dont require a LAE... where there's an aircraft, LAE will be there. so they dont need one. to those who already got dip or degree, it's almost like starting all over again if u plan to be aircraft maintenance engineer. kabadi, i heard about degree requirement to be an engineer thing(under EASA), what kind of degree specifically? aircraft related? any engineering? does it mean it will be harder to be engineer when DCA embrace EASA standard?

enlight me anybody, is 3 yrs tame under APR just like MAS tame program? i mean work+study for 3 yrs? or just classes?

..and yeah, im one of the ppl offered by eurocopter. actually they just offer a job. maybe some courses here n there but sponsorship is not part of it..for now.. i think they still negotiating with mara or sumthing. not hoping much tho

i think he's referrring to Winds. well, to some ppl, sitting on a small and stiff chair staring at some lcds for hours are...ermm..boring (haha..i won't JUST do that!). autopilot is doing most of the job, even auto landing approach on some aircraft. pilot are just backup system but those who become a pilot from an aircraft engineer would be a great advantage for them..especially if they're paid a lot. i would say pilot have bigger responsibility coz their decision especially at critical time affect the life of whole aircraft pax. imagine A380...

juz sumthing that i got. for those interested to be pilot and aircraft engineer with MAS. dateline is 31 march. comes with steel chain bond though...normal la
 EngCadet_Pilot.pdf ( 138.32k ) Number of downloads: 941

with mas program, i think u do get allowance...or is it only allowance? try give them a call.

yep,just send resume. dunno how many time they open for application. usually they are quite quiet about it. close relative with mas worker always know when they're opening. no wonder u can find a lot of family-tie worker there. no komen about that

haha.
duno how much exactly, but what i heard not even close to dat figure

for me, pilot is not really a dream job. most job has been taken over by computer. pilots are merely standby+backup system most of the time. even if im a pilot now, i'll get bored easily. think about thousands u owed to airlines for ur pilot training and 10-20 years of carreer u gonna have to live with... unless u love to be a pilot so much:P

we, maintenance people always have fight with the pilots just joking..
...any job with good money is a good job.

pilot fly people around,
we make it happen

honestly, it's easy.
unless u r oredi in the industry,learning thru experience, u gonna need more effort. now we got school locally for that. and u got a cert or dip even degree(coming soon i guess) u dun get this at airlines academy(instead u got bonds). academic qualification+LAME = $$$+respect

fyi, the degree course would be very new. in fact, the first intake would be in 2007 (if everything goes well). current diploma course cost about 3800 per semester for duration of 7 semester (which at the end of it u should be able to sit for lwtr) n i dont think it will be more than 5k.

not sure yet how long it gonna take(havent ask about it around yet) but i guess at least 4 years (maybe 1 or 1.5 topup on top of dip). i guess for now dip is good enuf, but i bet the degree is introduced to prepare for new standard (easa).

wow..where did this guy come from? once upon a time there were this bunch of guys who talk the same thing u talk about. now, they shut up oredi. let me help ahaw, skylinestar, refer to AN no 85, that AN specifically written for miat student which allow them to sit for lwtr. Guess what, this AN came out exactly at the same time with the first batch miat sitting for lwtr...weird coincidence?


dude!
miat is an approved training org for long time oredi. remember the dinner+disco in the hangar during the handover ceremony? is it 2004? it's written in the guest book that miat is an approved org complete with the dca approval number!:peace:
that's y i dun care what ppl said about miat...they know nothing

pls dun flame up this thread, just put up the right info guys.


edited: specially for skylinestar;)


This post has been edited by Lestat: Jun 1 2006, 01:09 AM

hmm..miat got one too..so everywhere we can find ex-DCA surveyor nowadays...

btw, there are FAX interview today. those who are to going to start working with transmile, congrats. heard they're gonna be in as soon as this thursday.

may i ADD some more info. i had to repeat this again, early his year, for the first time, MIAT students had sat for LWTR a few months after they grad. so u are wrong, jazzy. why? how? refer AN no 85. you are right tho that MAS and MIAT didnt use the same syllabus. they're almost

there are some difference between maintenance repair organization (MRO) and maintenance training organization(MTO). MAS, AA-> MRO. MIAT->MTO. ordinary people with zero knowledge of aircraft require 5 yrs experience before they can sit for LWTR. ordinary people with zero knowledge on aircraft who goes to MTO approved by DCA can sit after he finish his 3rd year. in miat, lwtr is your choice to take or not. at the end, u stil got dip. with MAS, jazzy has explained.

i believe mech eng. is valuable in aviation maintenance. say, your kind is needed in modification department. i dont have much experience in airliners coz i involved only in general aviation (heli, private jet) n im still new . just get anywhere within maintenance/engineering side of aviation n get your hand dirty a bit (work with aircraft, not at desk or workshop), then after 5 yrs go for lwtr

that's the way i can see it...for now. taiko2 pls add also.. stil cant find any aircraft taiko in here yet..

anybody is welcome to join aviation industry with whatever certification u got. technical services is one of the best way to join if u new to aviation coz u'll learn a lot about rules, process,etc..

jazzy dude, u work with eurocopter?

yeah, kenling..where did u do ur a&p? might gonna need it since not only USA use it. i think saudi aradia also use a&p? coz last time i saw a posr on rotor position but need a&p holder.

ic...
i wonder if u start working locally or start abroad (or oversea company). how long do need to become so valuable that that ur company pay u to make license

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