ccm123

I am in he same boat as you.Im considerin enrolling for the AME course in Nilai UC. U will be an mechanic in aircraft,similiar to mechanics for automobiles. I also love the physics related concepts and have an interest in aircraft.

I would enjoy the theory part but i have the same fear as u as well. The mechanic part...the assembling and fixing. I dont have much interest in the mechanical part.
I always have ppl askin"do u remove and assemble ur bicycle?" "do u remove parts and assemle them again?" its some what annoying.
But i enjoy figuring out how things work.

[quote=trent,Dec 29 2007, 12:53 PM]
dah tau lamer dah....even before you do

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Added on December 29, 2007, 1:00 pmFrom what I've understand, roughly around 4000+ sent in their applications to AK early this year, only hundreds get interviewed, and later on, only 30 were selected per batch (please pardon my stats if its wrong). That gives the success rate to roughly only 0.75% per application -- that's less than 1%!! (Before this I thought I've had around 20% chance, then later after reading this thread.... around 2% chance... and now.... "meep" )

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ms irnii,

even if 400,000 applied.....if u ave what they want..ull sure get it.dun need cable...airasia go for know-how...not know-who

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agree w u..if u r capable and show them ur determination in this industry....i`m sure u will get ur chance.

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Added on December 29, 2007, 5:26 pm[quote=Ady Yeo,Dec 29 2007, 02:52 PM]
ccm123

I am in he same boat as you.Im considerin enrolling for the AME course in Nilai UC. U will be an mechanic in aircraft,similiar to mechanics for automobiles. I also love the physics related concepts and have an interest in aircraft.

I would enjoy the theory part but i have the same fear as u as well. The mechanic part...the assembling and fixing. I dont have much interest in the mechanical part.
I always have ppl askin"do u remove and assemble ur bicycle?" "do u remove parts and assemle them again?" its some what annoying.
But i enjoy figuring out how things work.

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Then definitely U should go for a degree/dip in Aeronautics Engineering...
U will learn all the theory and will comeout as a 'designer' and not mechanics...

This post has been edited by vader83: Dec 29 2007, 05:26 PM

omg T_T found somebody with me now. But this is one of those courses that i'm very interested in. The problem is, i ain't very sure whether i like those engine parts because i was never exposed to it before, hmm aeronautics? I'll try to check it out..

DOes anyone know the salary during the employment period,the employment period before and after attaining full licence ?? I heard ur salary increases as the amounts of planes 1 knows how to maintain.

I don't think this job will suit you & ccm, this job is all about practical, you will suffer if you force yourself in but do not have the passion in it,

this questions "I always have ppl askin"do u remove and assemble ur bicycle?" "do u remove parts and assemle them again?" its some what annoying." usually reflect your true "inner self" , if you actually take apart your toys or bicycle when you were young it shows to them that you do have the interest & passion, quite an important factor that determines if you'll make it pass the interview or not, my uncle interviews people with this method too.

Then u should go for American Course, Aeronautical Engr.
<Witchita State University<-- Cheapest Uni in US.>
<Embry Riddle University>- Number 1 Aircraft School in US- Double the tuition fees of Witchita.>

This type of Engr will be like sitting in office kind-Designing Aircraft. Wont be easy to find a job in msia tho.. And I blindly took this course... Did not realize that i took the wrong course for 2 yrs in taylor's

Nilai wont be a good choice also, since this January2008 is their first time intake for Aircraft Maintenance Engr, MAS or AirAsia MIGHT not recognize your Diploma Certificate thus a waste of 2.5 year in Nilai.

**Note:Study 2.5year in Malaysia only get a Diploma.

And if you want a degree in the Maintanance, 3 yrs Transfer to oversea school for Degree in maintenance.

UK would be a good choice for Aircraft maintenance University , University of Glamorgan is on of it. <-- i am going there this sept.. All you need? A'level or Equivalent Cert, AmericanDegreeProgram also can like me..

***Malaysia have a high demand for Aircraft Maintenance Graduate so is Australia and China.***
So, choose wisely.

Cheers..

yup, choose wisely.
if u r more to design an aircraft, u must have enough information on the job prospect as in M`sia currently we are not the aircraft manufacturer but more on consumer. Thats why we need more LAE/AME as every aircraft need to be maintain in order to satisfy airworthiness requirement. If not, aircraft will be grounded and operator will lost millions if such case happen.

Malaysia has a high demand for AME??? So is Aussie and China???!

well...if u join mas i think u need at least diploma in engineering... n the starting salary for trainees nowdays shud b RM800 with increment of rm100 a year... but u might be tied down to a contract of 10years which will take effect only after u successfully pass out as engineer... if i am not mistaken the basic for new engineers shud be RM2xxx plus RM1000 technical allowance... gosh...i didnt noe LYN will have such thread... kinda cool

Aw gawd...

google it, u might find some info about malaysia current demand kua.. Type-"Aircraft Maintenance Engineer in Malaysia" or something fimilir.

Furthermore, Nilai started this AME University for this purposes.. *I guess*.

I have a lecturer in Taylor's Major in Aeronautical Engineer in US, and Automobile Engineer in Japan. End up working in Taylor Malaysia.... Kinda sad for him.

Yup..u can check MAS, AIRASIA...middle east also good prospect.

if u have Dip, u will appointed as AMU if i`m not mistaken. For the apprentice, the allowance shud be RM800 like u said. Of coz nowadays MAS will bind U to work for them for few years as they already invest on U...in MAS, their staff is a valuable asset!! For engineer (they called it TSE - Tech Services Eng.) basic salary RM1998 for 2 years (probation period), then once establish will gain extra RM1000-3000 (depends on Cat 1 or Cat 2) tech. allowance...Not to forget, their beneficial...Perghhh....something i cannot resist!!

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Added on January 1, 2008, 2:24 amThats y...there is only a few number of Tech. Services Engineer (must be a Degree holder) in MRO center, but they need hundred and even thousands AME/LAE. So, if lucky enough, u will get the job if not.....what to do.

This post has been edited by vader83: Jan 1 2008, 02:24 AM

bro... u are lame? seems like u noe alot...

Guess wat, i`m studied Aeronautics Engineering and undergone my internship as Tech. Services Engineer at MAS. My father is a LAE. Already applied w Sepang Aircraft Engineering (SAE), but still waiting their answers. SAE just resume their bussiness on September, so there is a lot of vacancies. Check their website. My former colleague already switch from MAS to SAE as he is now appointed as ASM (assist sr manager)...

Ooo wow.. you're one of the top 1% selected!! Luck or not, that's pretty impressive in my book!

Currently I'm in the middle of applying, so not in any group / batch yet. I've emailed Mr Salleh Mohamed (AirAsia) to ask when there will be a next intake, and I hope there will be one soon. I'm also looking for options with MAS too, and I'm going to send applications to both. Wish me luck ya



Great news! ewin, do you happen to know when usually the intake period would be for METC? For AirAsia Academy it looks like Jan08 intake (Batch 5, which is full already), so I really would appreciate any info here.



Thanks for the confidence guys I sincerely hope I do get my chance soon.



ADP (American Degree Program) is recognized, eh? I did pre-Uni for engineering under ADP back then.. before zaman gawat in 1998 and our govt couldn't afford to send us to the States...

..anyways, all the best for you comes this Sept in Glamorgan!


Interesting to know... before this I didn't see Malaysia in terms of either a consumer or manufacturer in airlines industry. All I know is Malaysia's aviation industry is growing steadily since the first 'atap nipah' airport

France (Airbus) and the US of A (Boeing) should be where the aircraft designers would flock to, eh? Hmm... comes to think of it, I wonder about why the height requirement are the norm for pilots, was the reason for the height was so that their legs can reach the brakes and the rudder pedals? If that's so, then aircraft designers should at least consider designing longer pedals for vertically challenged pilots, right? Hehe... just my lame musings here.

I've attended a Six Sigma* Green Belt training last August, and early in beginning of the course the Master Black Belt [MBB] person who conducted the training told us that average "sigma" for most company in my current field of employment (definitely not aviation-lah) is 2 Sigma, which is below the classic / old view of quality of 3.8 Sigma (or in other words, 99% Good. Examples: 2 short or long landings at most major airports each day; or 20,000 lost articles of mail per hour; or no electricity for almost 7 hours each month). The Six Sigma, or 6 Sigma view of quality is 99.99966% Good (this time, the Examples compared: 1 short or long landing every FIVE years; or 7 articles lost per hour; or 1 hour without electricity every 34 years, etc... that's roughly one defect per million opportunities... that's the difference in sigma quality sample). So the higher the Sigma capability is, of course the better quality given, right? It is very hard for a company / process to obtain and maintain 3.8 Sigma, and getting 5 Sigma is considered a success for many.

Our MBB person then proceed in asking us if we know what is the Sigma capability for the Boeing Company. Of course-lah our first thought is 5 to 6 sigma. He just chuckled and told us that Boeing is actually a 12 Sigma, lemme state that again, 12 Sigma. That's like 1 defect per BILLLIon opportunities! So yeah... major new respect for those working for Boeing, designing or building those planes for the LAEs to maintain... (Okay, I've Googled the credibility of this fact but couldn't find much.. so I just take my MBB word for it.. he's really a sifu in this subject).

Anyway, sorry for my ramblings.. maybe will benefit for ccm123, Ady Yeo, or anyone who is more into the conceptual / designing / theory side of aircraft engineering. At least I did felt that way, my passion for aviation sure felt fired up whenever I came across the word Boeing after that (haha... no offense for the non-supporter of Boeing). Just that I am more passionate about getting my hands dirty, fixing aircrafts instead of manufacturing it.




*The term "Six Sigma" refers to the ability of highly capable processes to produce output within specification. In particular, processes that operate with six sigma quality produce at defect levels below 3.4 defects per (one) million opportunities (DPMO)[3]. Six Sigma's implicit goal is to improve all processes to that level of quality or better. (taken from Wikipedia)

This post has been edited by iirnii: Jan 2 2008, 07:52 AM

IIRC, METC is only for MAS staff's children n FELDA only...

en. salleh is no more in charge of the engineering trainees already - he has been given a promotion and now he's undergoing a crash course to obtain his EASA license. i this en. muzammil is the one to look for now. maybe jazzy sir would be able to let you know exactly whom to contact. goodie good luck & wishing all fellow aviation members a very very happy 2008!

hmm...when will MAS open intake for Trainee TSE.

This post has been edited by vader83: Jan 3 2008, 12:12 AM

join Singapore Airlines

Dont want...living cost there so high. Actually, its a great opportunity to join SIA as SIA is the first operator to maintain A380 so there will be many things to learn but currently, i want to serve my country first.

i'm 23 this year...doing my electrical n electronic engineering final year now...going to graduate on d coming april...my father ask me to enter this field also,"aircraft engineer"...how to apply it???any tips???thanks all..