i'm 23 this year...doing my electrical n electronic engineering final year now...going to graduate on d coming april...my father ask me to enter this field also,"aircraft engineer"...how to apply it???any tips???thanks all..

en. salleh is no more in charge of the engineering trainees already - he has been given a promotion and now he's undergoing a crash course to obtain his EASA license. i this en. muzammil is the one to look for now. maybe jazzy sir would be able to let you know exactly whom to contact. goodie good luck & wishing all fellow aviation members a very very happy 2008!

I was wonderin. After 2.5 years of diploma,there is a chioce for internship(employment for approximately 5 years) or a degree in aircraft mainenance.

Should ppl go for the degree or start emplyent?

Ooo wow.. you're one of the top 1% selected!!    Luck or not, that's pretty impressive in my book!

Currently I'm in the middle of applying, so not in any group / batch yet.  I've emailed Mr Salleh Mohamed (AirAsia) to ask when there will be a next intake, and I hope there will be one soon.  I'm also looking for options with MAS too, and I'm going to send applications to both.  Wish me luck ya
Great news!  ewin, do you happen to know when usually the intake period would be for METC?  For AirAsia Academy it looks like Jan08 intake (Batch 5, which is full already), so I really would appreciate any info here.

Thanks for the confidence guys    I sincerely hope I do get my chance soon.


ADP (American Degree Program) is recognized, eh?  I did pre-Uni for engineering under ADP back then..  before zaman gawat in 1998 and our govt couldn't afford to send us to the States... 

..anyways, all the best for you comes this Sept in Glamorgan! 
Interesting to know...  before this I didn't see Malaysia in terms of either a consumer or manufacturer in airlines industry. All I know is Malaysia's aviation industry is growing steadily since the first 'atap nipah' airport 

France (Airbus) and the US of A (Boeing) should be where the aircraft designers would flock to, eh?  Hmm... comes to think of it, I wonder about why the height requirement are the norm for pilots, was the reason for the height was so that their legs can reach the brakes and the rudder pedals?  If that's so, then aircraft designers should at least consider designing longer pedals for vertically challenged pilots, right?  Hehe... just my lame musings here.

I've attended a Six Sigma* Green Belt training last August, and early in beginning of the course the Master Black Belt [MBB] person who conducted the training told us that average "sigma" for most company in my current field of employment (definitely not aviation-lah) is 2 Sigma, which is below the classic / old view of quality of 3.8 Sigma (or in other words, 99% Good.  Examples: 2 short or long landings at most major airports each day; or 20,000 lost articles of mail per hour; or no electricity for almost 7 hours each month).  The Six Sigma, or 6 Sigma view of quality is 99.99966% Good (this time, the Examples compared: 1 short or long landing every FIVE years; or 7 articles lost per hour; or 1 hour without electricity every 34 years, etc... that's roughly one defect per million opportunities... that's the difference in sigma quality sample).  So the higher the Sigma capability is, of course the better quality given, right?  It is very hard for a company / process to obtain and maintain 3.8 Sigma, and getting 5 Sigma is considered a success for many.

Our MBB person then proceed in asking us if we know what is the Sigma capability for the Boeing Company.  Of course-lah our first thought is 5 to 6 sigma.  He just chuckled and told us that Boeing is actually a 12 Sigma, lemme state that again, 12 Sigma.  That's like 1 defect per BILLLIon opportunities!   So yeah... major new respect for those working for Boeing, designing or building those planes for the LAEs to maintain... (Okay, I've Googled the credibility of this fact but couldn't find much.. so I just take my MBB word for it.. he's really a sifu in this subject).

Anyway, sorry for my ramblings.. maybe will benefit for ccm123, Ady Yeo, or anyone who is more into the conceptual / designing / theory side of aircraft engineering.  At least I did felt that way, my passion for aviation sure felt fired up whenever I came across the word Boeing after that (haha... no offense for the non-supporter of Boeing). Just that I am more passionate about getting my hands dirty, fixing aircrafts instead of manufacturing it.
*The term "Six Sigma" refers to the ability of highly capable processes to produce output within specification. In particular, processes that operate with six sigma quality produce at defect levels below 3.4 defects per (one) million opportunities (DPMO)[3]. Six Sigma's implicit goal is to improve all processes to that level of quality or better. (taken from Wikipedia)

hei there, but i'm like totally blanked about what u said really XD coz i haven't get attach to any of these infos but i do appreciate ur effort of giving advises... still currently in doubt now... umm as u have mentioned earlier.. where did u get ur pre-u in engineering? i mean in which college back then.

En. Salleh is now under inhouse development programme whereby he is being trained to get HIS license and hopefully, 2 years from now he and his batch (24 of them) can be the very first AirAsia trained/developed Licensed Engineers!

This is an information to those that are interested to join/apply for the Engineering Trainee Programme.
The next advertisement will be out after the results of SPM is published. Once it is out, start to send in your applications! The address to send in your applications will be indicated.
Good luck to all..

i'm 23 this year...doing my electrical n electronic engineering final year now...going to graduate on d coming april...my father ask me to enter this field also,"aircraft engineer"...how to apply it???any tips???thanks all..

Let me reword that.
wwwah85, regardless of what you have, you'll be doing the training from scratch, just like the others.
Yes, it will take 4-5 years of training! Nothing less. Like tkh mentioned, you better ask yourself, is this what you want to do for the rest of your life.
Once you're in.. its hard to turn back and start over.. unless you can afford the time and money wasted.

hmm... if he apply for Technical Services Engineer (Avionics) also need 4-5 year aa? But agree w U, Once in..its hard to turn back because aviation field is so big...and keep updating....because it is regulated.

anyone noe that diploma aircraft maintenance engineering can go for degree in other field engineering such as mechanical engineering ? urgent !! reply ASAP pls!!

i'm 23 this year...doing my electrical n electronic engineering final year now...going to graduate on d coming april...my father ask me to enter this field also,"aircraft engineer"...how to apply it???any tips???thanks all..

Since this is a thread for licensed aircraft engineer and also in this industry, aircraft engineer means 'licensed engineer'
When wwwah85 mentioned about becoming an 'aircraft engineer' I definitely assumed it's licensed aircraft engineer.

However if he wanted to be what we call in the industry, 'Technical Services Engineer' obviously IT IS NOT the same la.
Does this make any sense to you, vader83?

OTH I do not see the point of the industry being highly regulated, being the reason NOT be able to 'turn back' etc..    Why is that so?

Im planning to go to University of Bristol City offering EASA for 2 yrs if u have a Diploma. Im 26 this yr. Is it realistically possible to obtain the license in 2 yrs? I dont mind the low pay after that as you need to build experience. I mean since i am not in Malaysia which means UK standards are higher is it still realistically done in 2 yrs?I dont want to get duped into thinking"hey 2 yrs is just a short period"

hi, i finished my STPM 2005 and get my result on 2006.

since then working.

interested to get into aviation field.

any advice?