can anyone help me bcuz i'm confuse with which one is better...politeknik or miat??diploma or degree??
Can anyone simplify the license in this industry?

If you go to MIAT's website, there's a map how to get there.

Thank you Kabadi, underzoom, sifu jazzy, and trent (yes, I'm a ms. ), for the go-for-it cheers. Reading this thread gave me loads of insights but I remembered one member (I think its bonzaimy) did gave an advise to those who's interested to venture into this field to do more research (i.e. surf other forums, discussions, etc) on this profession, so aside from my normal daily schedule, that was what I've been doing in my free time since my last post in this thread. I even bought an idiot's guide to flying and gliding book, and almost bought myself a glossy picture-info book on warfare aircrafts haha . But now, to tell you the truth, I am currently more worried about the level of knowledge and instinct I would have for this career I would present in my application rather than being gender- nor age-conscious!

Googling here and there, I have stumbled upon some aviation forums (mostly for aspiring pilots though) by our fellow Malaysians. There was a full transcript of a [cadet pilot] interview too, which was both entertaining and nerve-wrecking to read at the same time! (Nerve-wrecking because of how the interviewers bombarded questions to make one sweats!) And there are online journals from a couple of AK's engineer trainees who are kind enough to share their experiences before and after their succssful applications, which are really informative and very beneficial to those who are curious about life as an LAE trainee (like me ). And I have to say, although reading them really gave me such an eye-opener, I am both impressed and intimidated; the level of knowledge and passion these people have are more than what I was expecting one should have to become successful in their selections. Heck, I thought my passion was enough to barely scrape by the selection (yes... I am a hopeless dreamer, I was already thinking about my life as a would-be LAE, when in fact there is no guarantee that I am going to get pass the first level of qualification!) but one who depends on sponsored training needs to really go the distance to secure a place, be it with MAS Airlines or AirAsia. Gosh... I really need to dig out my engineering books and stuff to rev up my technical brain back from its many years of dormancy.

Also thank you to atrocitines for updating us on the possibility for the no intake on MAS TAME program this coming 2008. It did startled my focus a bit but at least I am now ready from accidentally slipping into a sorry state of dejection. I still want to send in my application to MAS, nevertheless...

From what I've understand, roughly around 4000+ sent in their applications to AK early this year, only hundreds get interviewed, and later on, only 30 were selected per batch (please pardon my stats if its wrong). That gives the success rate to roughly only 0.75% per application -- that's less than 1%!! (Before this I thought I've had around 20% chance, then later after reading this thread.... around 2% chance... and now.... "meep" )

Of course, it certainly does give me the butterflies to last me thru many months to come, but I guess this is how a first time parachuter would feel when getting ready to take their first leap off that airborne plane. The more chickened I feel about my prospect, the more excited I feel to barge in and be part of this trade. Hehe.. kicking and screaming included too.


So... another few queries here:

1. I am wondering if any of you would be kind enough to advise me of the mailing address for AirAsia Academy, where I can send my application in, and to whom should I put the FAO for. I have Googled it but it just gives me list of news articles et al. regarding AirAsia (and this Googling for the Academy's info was how I stumbled upon those online journals / blogs etc).
   
2. One mentioned that they were successful and was slotted for AK's February 2008 batch, but from what I've read they've already undergone some program modules. I'm curious (and my question here might be odd too...) why was the modules done earlier than the batch intake slot?
   
3. Does the general knowledge (i.e. the history of the company, how many aircrafts do they have, etc) questions really matters once it comes down to determine one successful candidate to another?
   
4. I've read quite a bit on commercial jetliner trade for an LAE, but due to my lack of research, nothing yet about any kind of internship or LAE training programme from Malaysian Royal Air Force (RMAF) or any other than our local commercial airlines. Is there any out there (aside from colleges, training centres, private licenses which one needs to pay from their pocket without sponsorship or job contract)? Well... just wondering, since there was news on the purchase of the VVIP aircraft last July, an RM200 million Airbus Corporate Jet (ACJ) 319, purchased by Penerbangan Malaysia Berhad, for use by our PM (and if I am not mistaken an engineer who used to work for AirAsia was one of the engineers surveying / overseeing the aircraft), maybe with other options I think I can broaden my possibilities from that 0.75% to more than 1% success rate, hehe. For someone who do not have "inside cables", yeah... I'm kind of desperate to up my game.

My post is way, waa-ay too long now so I should take my leave for the time being. I thank you in advance for any kinds of feedbacks!

It might be late but Selamat Hari Raya Aidil Adha to my fellow Muslims who read this, and Merry Christmas, Happy Boxing Day, Happy Hannukah and Kwanzaa too those who celebrate any of those days

And.. have a happy countdown to 2008!

Salam and cheers!

This post has been edited by iirnii: Dec 26 2007, 05:50 AM

You have to be specific. better in WHAT way?
Most important thing to do is ask yourself, what do YOU want to do?

hei.
i have heard...
miat already offer degree right...?
wonder if my matriculation certificate will avail there..
pointer ok jer

iirnii,

1. All engineering recruitment go straight to the Engineering Department. You can address all applications to the Director of Engineering. Address as follows:
Director,
Engineering Department,
LCC Terminal
Jalan KLIA S3, Southern Support Zone
Kuala Lumpur International Airport
64000 Sepang, Selangor Darul Ehsan

2. I could not comprehend your second query. As far as last batch is concerned, they were sent (out of house) for Module 6 and 7 without going through the Induction programme which is normal for all new staffs. That can be done at a later convenient date.

3. If you are one of the hundreds/thousands that applied competing for a limited place/vacancy, would it help if you know the trade,the industry, the company that you're applying the job from? OF COURSE! This shows your seriousness and above all your interests and PASSION.

4. Nope. Inside cable helps but if you're NOT qualified.. it is still a NO.

Some correction. On average about 400++ applied everytime the advertisement is published. Each intake can vary from 20 to 30 candidates depending on what plans they have for that particular batch. I am curious, why are you giving up 'your game'?

Selamat Hari Raya/Merry Christmas everyone. Happy New Year 2008 too!

Be good.

if u dont want to wats ur time..go to licensed (LAE)
it easy to get a job as a LAE rather than competing w other degree holder for Technical Services Engineer (TSE).
if u hv a license, it valid worldwide if i`m not mistaken. Aviation industry need more LAE than TSE.

1. Thank you sir! Very very much appreciated
   
   
2. I might have confused myself with this question too But you've cleared that up, because I was not aware that induction programmes for AirAsia's new staff might not start on the first day of employment (I'm used to new staff being inducted when they started their first day, so I apologize for my unclear question).
   
   
3. Yes, of course, now come to think about it.. the answer is just plain simple I think when I wrote that query I might be influenced with worries that I might not cut for it. Silly, I know... (and now I am embarrassed asking this in the first place..)
   
   
4. That's a relief to hear, because I don't have such so-called 'cables' anywhere in the industry (which was the initial reason why I feel desperate to find any more means to join this field). What I was wondering on this question was whether there is such training programme for would-be LAEs offered by non-commercial companies such as RMAF et al.

400++ only?? I could have sworn that I read someone's post about that 4k figure. Plus with all the news articles I've read recently about how our country is in need for more LAEs (one of it as quoted below), it gives me the impression that this profession is what everyone else is talking about these days.

p/s: Sorry if I seemed to misled this thread readers about my earlier post! I wanted to 'UP' my game, add more value to it. I didn't mean 'giving up' at all, honest! Sorry...


pp/s: As what vader83 has said in the above post.. here's one article for your reading pleasure... cheers!

The article below is from The Star Online.
URL: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...5504&sec=nation

Friday November 30, 2007
MYT 11:59:19 AM

Shortage of aircraft maintenance engineers

By EE-LYN TAN

CYBERJAYA: There is a need to overcome the worldwide shortage of aircraft maintenance engineers (AME).

Department of Civil Aviation director-general Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said the number of aircrafts has quadrupled in the past 20 years.

"In order to maintain these modern aircrafts, there is a need for people with special skills and attributes," he said at the launch of Nilai International University College's (NUC) diploma in aircraft maintenance engineering yesterday.

Air Service Training (Engineering) chief executive Peter Farrow who flew in from Scotland on Tuesday said that there is currently a large gap between existing AMEs and the younger generation of AMEs.

"There is a genuine shortage because of several factors that affected the aviation industry such as changing economies, the Sept 11 tragedy and SARS that resulted in no training being carried out for several years," he said.

Farrow added that China alone needed 210,000 AMEs in the next five years.

NUC president Professor Emeritus Tengku Datuk Shamsul Bahrin said the aviation industry was rapidly expanding and as a result, the demand for AMEs will continue to grow.

"Poor maintenance is no longer an excuse for flight delays so we are assisting in the development of the industry to fulfil the needs and wants of the industry," said Shamsul.

He added that NUC was looking at the international market with the intention of attracting international students in line with making Malaysia an education hub.

Azharuddin, a former AME himself, said that AME was a very marketable profession as there was a worldwide demand for them.

"You will be working with very modern and sophisticated machinery while dealing with new problems and challenges everyday," he said.

The diploma will incorporate the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) Part 66 Category B1-1 syllabus, which will earn them an EASA Part 66 Category B1-1 aircraft maintenance licence that will allow graduates to seek immediate employment internationally.

This is the worldwide standard that is adopted by many countries around the world.

This post has been edited by iirnii: Dec 26 2007, 10:55 PM

regarding the intake in Feb 08 and starting the module, i guess you would have read it from my blog, iirnii

just to clarify a little, i was initially place in the Feb 08 batch, but then was called on later to join the Aug 07 batch, and sifu jazzy, we had our induction prog in the academy for 3 weeks before we were kicked out of civilisation.

4k might not be so true but there were definitely more than 400 during my aptitude test. the list of people without degrees/diplomas exceeded 400.

and that article, i don't know if it was a marketing gimmick for Nilai UC.

my 2 cents.

It was yours?? Wow.. haha.. I should have known it must been one of the posters here

Ah, so that's how it was for you, hmm... no wonder I was a bit boggle-minded hehe..

I don't know whether to smile or feel darn stupid about my obviously wrong stats, haha.. that means I should have done more homework beforehand! I was seriously panicky (only of a bit) with the sheer number of applicants, but now it seems the sky is much more clearer for me, yay!

Gimmick or not, it still sheds a positive light, in a different view.. more marketing means more exposure to the public, reaching out to more potential and capable people who will be interested in this field. Growth is not so bad, be it with one competing college or another, so long as its for the better future of this industry, eh?

iirnii,
everybody make mistakes.. nothing to be ashamed about.. btw only during my time (that was a long time ago!) over 3000 applicants applied for 30 available positions and I am one of the lucky/fortunate 30..

How many are there in your group/batch? What are you(the group) doing right now?

Erm guys, i am here to ask a few questions regarding this Aircraft Maintenance Engineering course. I just finished my SPM and is currently awaiting result, and i'm quite interested in this course offered by Nilai University College.

Nilai stated that course was newly released and we're the pioneer batch. From there, we can obtain our diploma + our EASA license under a 2 years program + 6 months of trainee program. I would like to know the other alternate routes of taking up this course at different college/unis. Any1 mind to enlighten me?

Btw, is this course more like a mechanic in aircraft? I mean i love aircraft and stuffs like that but i'm not so much into the engine part. Of course that is one thing that we have to study so is it still advisable for me to go? I love physics related concept and aircraft, but on the other hand i am afraid that i do not have too much interest in the mechanical part. However, that's what i think only, i believe i can still cope with it if i want to. So can anyone enlighten me by giving a more detailed idea about what is the modules of the course? thanks

Trent, atrocitines :

MAS IS Taking in TAMEs next year, they will be under METC.

I'm very sure.

There are 20 of us in Batch 4 and another 22 are joining Batch 5 in January. We're just finishing our final few days in TAFE and we'll be starting our OJT on the 7th. It's going to be quite some time before we get back to the academy

I'm planning to join college for this studies...
Can anyone give some comments about TAFE and MIAT ?

Uhhz, nobody seems to be active here anymore, is it ok if i start a new thread =/

I would prefer MIAT as their student always attached w MAS. I did my practical training at MAS at saw many students from MIAT do some maintenance routine there. In my opinion, thats a great exposure and experience!!

If u do not love 'hand-on' part, then go to university/college. Pursue Aeronautics Engineering Degree...u will learn how to design aircraft, the work principle of avionic instruments, aerodynamics and all related to concept and design. But the disadvantage of doing this, u will be lack of hand-on training.

It might be a good course..or just a trap..
Many of us seriously doubt the "we can obtain our diploma + our EASA license under a 2 years program + 6 months of trainee program"
because the min period to get ur easa license is 3 years working on a LIVE aircraft if I'm not mistaken, so I really suggest you to ask everything clearly from Nilai college's counsellor if you wanna join. Regarding the different uni's n colleges, whatever course you take, dip or degree, you'll still need that few years exp on a live aircraft to obtain your easa license. unis & colleges don't just give you a license like they give you a degree.

here's a website for the modules that you'll need to go through,

http://www.aviationonline.co.uk/part66Syllabus.htm

I'm waiting for my SPM results now...
Is it good if I join the APR for Aircraft Mechanic Level 1 course?

[quote=ewin,Dec 27 2007, 08:45 PM]Trent, atrocitines :

MAS IS Taking in TAMEs next year, they will be under METC.

I'm very sure.

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dah tau lamer dah....even before you do

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Added on December 29, 2007, 1:00 pmFrom what I've understand, roughly around 4000+ sent in their applications to AK early this year, only hundreds get interviewed, and later on, only 30 were selected per batch (please pardon my stats if its wrong). That gives the success rate to roughly only 0.75% per application -- that's less than 1%!! (Before this I thought I've had around 20% chance, then later after reading this thread.... around 2% chance... and now.... "meep" )

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ms irnii,

even if 400,000 applied.....if u ave what they want..ull sure get it.dun need cable...airasia go for know-how...not know-who

This post has been edited by trent: Dec 29 2007, 01:00 PM