got coerce into taking this by my mum and fiancee.

Link to product: http://biogrow.com.my/Oat-Bran-Powder-Oat-...l-products.html

Is this good?

Side effects so far for me: diarrhea like symptoms when I visit the loo. But not really diarrhea just that faeces seems watery than usual. (sorry for the gross-ness no other better way to put it )

Mum says is normal, eat this oat will clean your inside fats/oil. Means after taking this powder best to avoid oily foods? I'm confuse. (will definitely have the above symptoms after taking oily/fatty foods - usually on the next morning/noon)

Dont like taking a product seems like a laxative/detox. I don't really know what's the side effect of this and starting to doubt it.

But looking at its ingredients (made from 100% oats) I'm just scratching my head thinking how could any of it go wrong?? It would be way better than taking Herbalife (which I did in the past) since its ingredients in F1 is questionable.

Any thoughts, especially from users of this product?

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Added on October 17, 2012, 3:01 pmsorry... it's made from imported Swedish Oats..

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Oct 17 2012, 03:01 PM

I've tried it for a month

Hmm....never have any bad comment bout it but I think it is good as with few spoons of it, you will get your daily gluton supply.

One thing bad is the price of it.

But i never experience diarrhea like symptoms like yours.

I used to mix it with warm black coffee. Without sugar and creamer.

How often did you visit the loo? Mind me asking? Is it easier when u *ahem* do it (defecate)?

Yesterday I visited the loo 2 times (in the day) - wasn't really diarrhea just that lots of water to it.

I'm avoiding really oily foods to see if it improves (last few days had abit of siuyok and KFC guess that's why yesterday I went through quite bad)

I'm an above average guy in terms of BMI.. overweight actually.. wonders if that adds to the side effects of it... cleaning my inside of all that bad fatty stuffs? (reminds me of detox - used to do that like once a month)

I would mix it with Milo (use warm water like half cup, then mix the rest with lukewarm water, then +1 spoon of BG22). Tastes good. Drinking it raw is really tough - hate the taste of it, leaves a bad mark on the tongue.

Thanks for your feedback! Hope to hear more...

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Oct 18 2012, 12:18 PM

Hmm....well, all the while I don't have the problem when I going big in the toilet. So, no I didn't see any different before and after I take the Oat.

But then my experience can't give much information because I just tried for 1 month. Maybe I should try it for longer period to actually see the result or different. But one thing is that I feel it's a good product.

Honestly I've recommanded to people but most of them gave me some kind of look, and told me those are bullshit. The conventional Quarker Oats is the best.

I mean if you are on strict diet and being watching your calories intake closely, this oat is good for you. IMHO

k i'll continue it for a month or 2 to see how my body takes it.. maybe needs some time to adjust.

btw, you quitting smoking? I was once a ex smoker too (not that heavy 1 pack a week light cigs)

i tried quitting 4-5 times too but all failed, finally succeed with the help of ecigs, this brand (didnt dare try cheap brands one scare not effective and side effects to health):
http://www.facebook.com/pages/SmokerHaven-...?flyingspaghettimonster=ts&fref=ts

and also helped from my fiancee cos she really wanna see me quit... hope this will encourage you not to give up quitting! all the best!!

you are going to the loo more often because if its high soluble fiber content.

i dropped about 4kg, with no change in diet, happily whacking siuyuk and KFC

Anyone interested of getting it at lower price?

selling price at RM72.90 for 480g. i can get cheaper price.

kindly pm me if you are interested.

Lol, same happen to be. I am bulking, then i took this product. Damn, one day 2-3 times like diarrhea. Straight stop after i finish this.

Can't la, evryday 2-3 times. Badly affected my daily routine.

Hi. Still have stock oat bg22? How much is it.

saw one selling for 58.80

approved by KKM and FDA, nothing to worry about

it's just oats anyway, already known to be healthy food

Check the list of ingredients on the label. What did it list?

It is written that KKM and FDA allow using those health claims on oat products, but did not state in that poster image that the product itself wss individually reviewed and approved by them.

ah, missed that. thanks for the clarification. well, either way, i dont think oat would do any harm.

Yes, the oat itself usually won't.
That is why I asked him the other ingredients, as oatmeal products usually contains only oats without any additives, ie check Quaker Oatmeal ingredients on the labeling.

what's the difference between this BG22 and other oat bran products out there, such as Pristine Premium Oat Bran (http://www.pristinecereals.com/pristine_oats.html)? In terms of beta glucan/soluble fibre, i think both products are quite comparable, even though price wise, Pristine is sooo much cheaper

I have the same experience also diarrhea 3 times per day

Could let me know where did you get it from or whom?

big pharmacy at taman oug

I have been taking it for a month now. Same symptom, go to the loo 2 - 3 times per day...

Yes , this pharmacy just opened a few months back and I find the prices reasonable. Near the OUG market, situated in the row of shops behind Public Bank.
Cosway also sells barley BG (beta glucan), claims to be more effective than OBG and much cheaper. Haven't tried it yet. On offer this month.

its quiet costly compared to wat other brands offer...

Can I have the pharmacy name & is it still the same price RM58 now?

u can get it at Superdrug Pharmacy at OUG as well at very good price.

i also agree about this idea, how about contrast with other oats like?

yes how abt comparision with other oats..

IINM it's still at RM58 per can but probably out of stock now.

guardian selling 220 for 4 and free RM40 voucher


worth buying

what are different between other oat?

I bought is for RM 56 per can at a pharmacy in Bangsar.

you've spotted this correctly. on another note, KKM do not review/register this category of products. its under food so registration does not apply. for products which is registered there will be a MAL number

Usually.. when they try to promote something as healthy... it usually isnt..

looking at all the comments about diarrhea, I think I've nothing to complaint about . I go to do "biz" abt 3-4times, and most of the times usually not a pretty sight . have been using for half year di, when tested at 3mths, no change in blood cholesterol level, still high. So went back to pharmacy, and they mentioned that I should take like 4 scoops a day How lah? Now the loo is like a frequent fixture in my roster...don't know how long can this go on. I think i'll go for another blood test after I finish with this can, and see how. If still no change, I'll drop it. Just the loo part that is a major hindrance to continue...

oooh so many replies to my thread didn't know @@ (thought it was dead adi thus I unsubscribed)

yes I'm still taking it on and off since my mum is a strong follower (she also on and off la xD )

but yes each time i take it I feel my body more healthy, less fatty (choked up inside).

the go-to-toilet-thing 3 times a day is normal after take this BG22 for few days straight (maybe for some ppl no such issue). But if it can lower my cholesterol why not la.. for health sake. The ingredients all natural anyway. I havent go blood test prove it yet tho *my cholesterol all along healthy so dont know how to prove it.. only know that I feel better inside (esp previous day u eat KFC, then next day morning drink this before bfast... mid of the day u will feel difference )

I go to gym 2 times a week + badminton once a week.. plus this oat... and some multivitamins. Working well so far... living healthy is important for me since i'm gonna be in the 30s soon @@ dont wanna see diseases start kicking in before I take action... u should start taking care too! HEALTH IS WEALTH.

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Jul 17 2013, 02:01 PM

hmm maybe u can post what happened after that? Did the cholesterol level went down?

my mum told me her's went down after she started taking (she have blood test to prove it, she got go brisk walk also la tho not often)... so yeah... guess it does work.

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Jul 17 2013, 02:03 PM

someone posted this on Biogrow's page:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Biogrow/249866868367820

nice

Caring had a booth at Empire Shopping Gallery in Subang Jaya. A middle aged lady had her blood tested and bought 3 tins for RM 170. Her cholesterol was about average. Evidently she has been taking Biogrow OBG for a few months and has stopped taking her medications. Last week at Midvalley at the Caring booth, I also bought 3 tins for the same price but this time Caring was giving free comprehensive blood test at Pantai Hospital. Seems quite a good deal which also included liver test. Costs about RM 50. Although my office pays for my blood test, I felt it was quite neccessary for me to buy the stuff because my cholesterol was too high (my cholesterol ratio is 4.49 mmol/L)
I too had loose bowels and stomach cramps. I googled and found that I should have gradually increase the amount I take every morning. The lady at the booth just told me that it is normal to have diarrhea and something about cleansing the body, which is sure nonsense.

I'll post my blood test stats after I finish this can...if no improvement, think I'll stop...can't stand going to the loo so many times a day..imagine when I'm out of office...

for those who took BG22 for sometime and really help reduce their cholesterol level, would like to know how many scope u took on daily basis and when u take it everyday?

just tried out for 2 days, and 3 scoops per day. hopefully can reduce calories after 3 cans which bought a few days ago...

try avoid eating too much oily food while taking bg22 ... i notice more toilet activity if i were to take bg22 then go chomp down stuffs like KFC, bat kut teh, etc.. @@

anyway nowadays i seldom eat oily/fatty stuffs as i wanna slim down too.. just my 2 cents

another testimony from my neighbour staying opposite of me in Kuantan.. (now i've moved to KL)

he had super high cholesterol till even the doc was shocked, at 90+!!! he didn't check before and only recently did it after being persuaded by his wife (he's around 65 yrs old but still fit and looks healthy)

he took BG22 for like an entire month, 2 times daily, 2 scoops each time, went back to check his cholesterol and it fell till 40!! which is healthy back!

happy for him that he's healthy now..

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Aug 12 2013, 11:59 AM

yeap, feeling healthy is priceless..... congrats to him hehe

started taking BG22 twice daily mon-fri, anyone had cholesterol level drop so far from these oats..?

how much is a tin of BG22 now? I see ppl selling at RM88.90. anyone got better deal?

Big Pharmacy at OUG, having promotion now at RM55.90....

This post has been edited by klaatu08: Sep 9 2013, 01:34 PM

wow, can give me the address? thanks.

No 18, Jalan Hujan Rahmat. Taman Overseas Union. 58200 KUALA LUMPUR.

thanks. will visit there after work.

I think you may be mildly allergic to gluten in the oats. Google it up or see this url - http://drcrableobgyn.com/health-library/he...OCHWID=hw192213. I struggled through 1 tin for more than 1 month. The worse was when I took 1 spoonful of Oats BG with a big bowl of barley (high gluten) . At noon I took 1 piece of papaya (always a problem for me) and 4 kiwi fruits. By later afternoon I was bloated with gas, abdominal pain and having diarrhea.
No wonder some people seem to sail through the day with nary a problem.

I'm still trying to experimenting with the Oats BG and trying to eliminate all other gluten foods except rice. I also allow myself amaranth, arrowroot, buckwheat, corn, flax, millet, potatoes, quinoa, sorghum, fermented non GMO soybeans, tapioca, or teff.
Maybe you can try to spread out your oats intake to 3-4 times a day.

I think you will have to adjust your intake of Oats BG and stay clear of high fibre food. Don't stop your Oats BG. Just be patient about getting the results. At the same time reduce your red meats and fried food (high transfat) & get plenty of exercise.

There is no short cut. Otherwise it is statins which has bad side effects. According to http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles...on-statins.aspx, :"these drugs can actually increase your risk of heart disease because they deplete your body of Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10), which can lead to heart failure. Statins lower your CoQ10 levels by blocking the pathway involved in cholesterol production -- the same pathway by which Q10 is produced" So how? Cannot win lah unless you stuff yourself with the expensive CoQ10.

Just go to organic stores they usually got sell brandless oat bran much much cheaper.

i usually buy quaker oats. is it same with this brand?

i can say that after 4 weeks of 2 scoops daily (almost finish 1 tin) it did not drop my levels - and I reduced my meat and egg intake that time. I got another 2 tins with me, now start taking 3 scoops daily - wonder it will work ?

hard to eat everyday la normal oats... thts why BG22 is here. Then is proven more effective than regular oats (as it's easier to consume it 3 times a day than normal oats)

yes try that.. if it doesn't drop then only see how.

exercise also, cut down fat/carbo, and take care of that diet before it's too late.

Caring pharmacy have promotion now 3 can of bg22 for Rm174 ..only RM58 for 1 can

I'm going to try this out starting today.

Going to the loo is not an issue as my daily routine is twice a day, before to work and after dinner.
I would go a few more times extra a day to exchange for health.

There is another brand now in market by live well:



This one is slightly sweetened wth stevia & thus still sugar free. consist of both oats + Barley with almost similar amt of beta glucan.

I have just started taking BG22. Hope it lowers my total
cholesterol which has been reading 220-250 for the past 7 years.

exercise will help bro. mum takes bg22. its good.

It's overpriced. The best is still to consume proper raw oats along with other plant based diet. It's not a miracle food. One cannot expect to just take this and expect to be healthy without changing our daily bad diet habit. But if one can change their diet habit, then this becomes a redundant.

I am taking BG22 too. How do you guys make the drink? Most of the time sure got some of it can't dilute in hot water and "stuck/stick" on my spoon or bottom of mug....

i just mix with room temp water and drink.. use to the taste liao.

mix with hot water + milo/coffee etc I find it's harder to drink coz the bg22 will become this thick yucky substance. On FB page they got explain that it's suppose to bcome like this in your stomach/intestine and not at your mouth as it's hard to consume, thus they recommend mix with normal water and drink.

anyone got improve cholesterol levels after taking BG22 do post here... encourage one another

Problem wth the raw oats available in M'sia (Rolled oats that needs to be cooked) is the medium carbo conten of >57mg/100,g.. Anything above 55mg/100mg is actually no good for diabetic. BG22 & few more new products having lower than 50. i.e good for diabetics



BTW, instant oats having high carbo of >75.. Bad for diabetics

This post has been edited by stimix: Oct 19 2013, 05:43 PM

Ah... so I should put room temp water instead. Thanks for the information

I take rolled oats in the form of granola bars; they are yummy

Homemade Granola Bars

got another one Kordel Active Oat 35.Easy juz drink.price around rm60

Are these in fine powder form that is easily soluble in water??
Or like normal oats?

Your cholesterol is totally normal. Levels up to 250 mg/dl are normal.

In 1977, Richard Passwater challenged at the back cover of his book, ''Supernutrition
for Healthy Hearts'' :

'' If anyone can step forward and prove that cholesterol causes heart disease, I will
donate the proceeds from this book to the American Heart Association. ''


Look at your triglycerides and HDL readings, in mg/dl, that is, not SI units.

If your TG/HDL ratio is less than two, you have nothing to worry about.


There are more specific tests like Lp(a) and Lp-LPA2, but the labs here are not
equipped to test them.

They will have to send your blood down to Singapore if you wish to check your Lp(a).


If you wish to improve your cholesterol profile, try Hijuven softgels (tocopherol nicotinate).
Not many pharmacies here carry them. You can get them from Diethelm, now DKSH,
which distributes Eisai, the manufacturer. Marketed as Juvela-N in Taiwan and Singapore.

http://www.drugexp.com/juvela-soft-capsules-200mg-p-257.html



The significance of lipoprotein(a) in assessment of risk for atherosclerosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7839688/



Reduction of serum lipoprotein(a) levels in hyperlipidaemic
patients with alpha-tocopheryl nicotinate.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2149270






This post has been edited by Tham: Nov 3 2013, 01:58 PM

anyone tried this? Barley BG http://www.cosway.com.my/product/health/nn_barleyBGplus.htm


Award wining product.

nope they are very fine powder.. for BG22. The rest not sure haven't tried.

Check via the nutritional labelling for Beta Glucan or soluble fibre per serving, then per can.
The name may be misleading as Active Oat 35 may indicate 35% Promoat rather than the percentage of Beta Glucan.

In powder form?

That's processed food. Eat oats as it is in its natural form.

Not all "processing" is bad.
Your rolled oats from store is also "processed" in a way that most products are mechanically assessed and filtered from physical contaminant.

Powder form is the oats blended into tiny, more soluble form.
Those products are just the bran from the oats, blended into powder form for easier absorption.
In effect, you consume less for more of the active nutrient that contributes to the oat being healthy the first place.

The above is provided that there are no fillers or additives.

This post has been edited by reconnaissance: Dec 1 2013, 09:03 PM

I believe so.

I have started taking bio grow BG22 for about 2 weeks now. Main purpose is to hope to lower my cholesterol. It's too soon to say whether it works but one thing is for sure, it's certainly making me eat more healthily because of it.

The oats are easily soluble, even when mix with cold drinks like milk, and it tastes just fine. After some time, i realize that the oats drink will turn into a thicker layer of mould and i guess it'll stay that way in our stomach. As a result, i tend to eat less thereafter. Like some consumers have mentioned earlier, i do experience more frequent toilet passing motion after taking Bio Grow, about 2-3 times a day. Initially it was more like a semi-diarrhea but after few days is back to normal. I believe it has a detox element, which is excellent.

Amazingly i realize I felt leaner and have trimmed bits of my stubborn belly fat, which is an unexpected bonus! I think both the detox and eating healthy contribute to this unexpected result, which is great.

Bottom line, i will measure my cholesterol again after 2-3 months and hopefully has a positive outcome.

By the way, i bought it at a Pharmacy at Taman Megah, PJ (near Fatty Crab) and costs only RM55. I believe you can get this discounted price at many pharmacies now.

Compare the contents as well.
The lesser the ingredients, and the greater the soluble fibre or beta-glucan the better.

All products are required by law to have at least 3g of beta-glucan per serving if they want to display a labelling that the product helps lower cholesterol.
However, the average product contains around 3.6g per serving, with some at 3.2 to 3.8.

Any amount above 3g is already sufficient, but in this case, it won't hurt for a little more.

Biogrow BG22 is the first of its kind in the market la... i drink on and off and feel healthier. Not convinced to change to other brands at the moment as I'm happy with the results.

Difference of 80 cents a day is not much... coz once got high cholesterol and need further treatment will really burn a hole in the pocket with the medical fees.. u choose.

well written.. exactly how I experienced it too.

Assuming these 3 products are of about the same weight:
1. Kordel oat 35
2. Bio grow bg22
3. Bio life Barley 25

With Kordel and Bio Grow you need 2 scoops (assuming the scoop size is the same for all 3 products) to get the daily requirement of 3 grams of beta glucan whereas you only need 1 scoop of Barley 25 to give you the 3 grams of beta glucans. If Kordels and BioGrow lasts you 26.5 days how did you arrive at the figure of 34 days for Barley 25? Shouldn't it be 2 X 26.5 = 53 days?

Just looking at the claims on their products it seems Barley 25 has twice the potency of the competition as well as being the most cost effective which makes it the best choice.

This post has been edited by wongpeter: Dec 9 2013, 10:17 AM

New product...

NH ORGANIC OAT-PLUS 26 WITH BETA-GLUCAN POWDER 500G
- two scoops 3.6g beta glucan

http://www.rakuten.com.my/shop/caringpharm..._H00047_027134/

same company as NH Colla, NH Dtox Lim.

Hi,

Would like to update my cholesterol status after consuming 2months continuously... I'm glad that it works! My cholesterol (ESP bad cholesterol) has gone down significantly.

Absolutely love it, & the taste too! The only minor setback is the higher daily frequency of visiting the loo....:-(

good to hear that it works for u . btw what is ESP bad cholesterol?

What is your reading for the following, before and after consuming BG22?

- Total Cholesterol
- HDL
- LDL (the bad one)

awesome.. knew it will work!

yea visiting the toilet is troublesome but in the long run it's better than getting stroke or heart disease etc.

u can reduce the amount once the bad cholesterol has went back to normal. Another thing is also to watch out the diet avoid too oily/fatty foods.

and do yearly checkup for cholesterol (best to do a comprehensive blood test).. always keep it in check.

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Mar 5 2014, 03:21 PM

Yes, David. Appreciate your valuable advice.

BEFORE (19 Feb 2014):
TOTAL - 7.2
HDL - 0.97
LDL - 5.4
HDL/LDL ratio - 7.4
Trig - 1.8

AFTER (10 March 2014)
Total - 4.6
HDL - 1.3
LDL - 3.0
HDL/LDL ratio - 3.5
Trig - 0.6

Yes just less than 3 weeks. No statin.

Things I do/eat:
- biogrow daily 4 - 5 scoops
- run 9km/session (an hour) for 4 - 5 times a week
- 5 green juice daily in the morning (apple, green pepper, celery, cucumber, bittergourd)
- no outside food, all cooked at home.
- change white rice to brown rice
- salmon (tefal pan fry without oil, just add some mix herbs)
- steam chicken breast (de-skinned)
- cherry tomato, almond etc
- no coffee
- no alcohol/smoke

nice...

I buy the German rolled oats at a cake supply shop for less than RM5/kg. I cook oatmeal for my evening meal to allow for a bowel movement in the morning. Don't ask me about my cholesterol readings because I've never had it checked.

can you post your result here later?

next time try to skip the first, and continue with other , and show the result be4 and after to us

Haha I wonder how much is the contribution from bg22 too and its expensive to keep eating this way. But still need to xontinue this till I see my doc in aug.