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post Nov 8 2012, 05:36 PM

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Today while i was driving, heard whistling noise from front windscreen. To those who have the same issue, the noise coming from top or bottom of the windscreen?

While driving through the East-West highway today, Polis buat operasi.



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post Nov 8 2012, 09:44 PM

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whistling noise? U confirm that's not CVT whining sound?

Else, go to nearest Proton Edar for 10-points free checking. One of the check point is to fill the hole at windscreen front with rubber to improve noise insulation.

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 8 2012, 09:44 PM)
whistling noise? U confirm that's not CVT whining sound?

Else, go to nearest Proton Edar for 10-points free checking. One of the check point is to fill the hole at windscreen front with rubber to improve noise insulation.
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Any proton edar centre will do? If in penang? I just tell them to check the 10-points?

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post Nov 8 2012, 10:18 PM

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Yes bro. Any of them shall provide u the service FOC
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post Nov 8 2012, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 8 2012, 08:16 AM)
Yesterday went to PJ Eon SC, PJ. Informed them the windows has been making the gruk gruk sound when up & down. Went into the office to speak with the SA, came out about 5 minutes, the mechanic then come claimed no longer got sound edy. Tested 5-8 times up & down in front of me & I was like, Whaaaaaat...? When the SA asked the mechanic what he did, he said he just rest it. Donno how though but the sound now gone.. Didn't know whether they have open the door panel or not. Huhu

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shocking.gif After all these months still got SA that said it like that ar? Its not a free gift, the car came with it, lol... doh.gif
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Dude, share with us is it Manual iAFM+, or Exec or Premium spec?

Heard like there's some inconsistent setting with ur car. It won't hurt to go and ask SC & drive around with them to show it.

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iafm+ cvt... i guess i have to check wif sc.. ==
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 8 2012, 09:44 PM)
whistling noise? U confirm that's not CVT whining sound?

Else, go to nearest Proton Edar for 10-points free checking. One of the check point is to fill the hole at windscreen front with rubber to improve noise insulation.
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It is not CVT noise, it comes when the car goes over 100km/h. Will go to SC for 10 point checking
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post Nov 8 2012, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Nov 8 2012, 05:16 PM)
iafm@vis using supercharger concept, but the missing part is the supercharger :-). Nonetheless, the aim is to give out the best torque as can across the rev range. Unlucky that bod dont approve flx se manual for malaysia coz that baby can fly :-), sorry, overgerated a bit, actually really fast coz the weight is much lesser than preve by much, can play play with cfe turbo cvt if max to max rev counted and in the right hand of course:-).

N since preve iafm+ 1.3 tonne++, n most suitable torque which u feel the pulling power is coming out is around 3k rpm which nearly 90% of torque already generated which around 135nm. But for flx se manual, 110nm is just enough, n that shud be less than 2k rpm, thats why flx 1.6 iafm+ manual is fast.

Since iafm+ using torque based ecu, the fuel rail will injected correct amount of fuel so that the torque needed is achieve as fast as it could even using manual disguised. Thats why plonking previous iafm using loadbased ecu, even for manual, can be catasthrophy.

Actually, in c segment around the whole, even preve 1.6 iafm+ seems puny n little, but other makes do offer the same cc engine, n some even as small as 1.4l na engine for c segment car, but of course, normally in manual form. Only in malaysia thats its rarely seen@sold, maybe they know that malaysian seems to buy big car with big engine capacity.even pug 5008 offer 1.6 na engine in manual disguise. If not mistaken, there is civic 1.4l na version n 1.6l. Sorry if wrong about that coz cant remember exactly, seem rusting a bit now when i grow older :-).


Added on November 8, 2012, 5:19 pmsorry, typo, around the world, not the whole, what is happening to old man nowadays :-)...
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For the 1.6 FLX SE, I totally believe you Abg. mat79... I drove the test drive car & it was really punchy. I can feel the engine wanting to unleash more power but the CVT box keeps it back my shuttling between gears... very annoying but got potential brows.gif

Also, I agree with the Preve 1.6L engine... these engines have good HP ratings are (in the proper hands) able to deliver good, usable power. What I don't like is the mode of emission control. I strongly believe the DBW is not the ONLY strategy to ensure good power delivery at sane emission levels. I'm also VERY sure they didn't have manuals in mind when setting up the engine's software - else they would have seen the throttle-lag issue in the very beginning. I heard that the latest ECU upgrades compensates this quite a bit, so let's see once my car goes in & comes out of Proton next week.

Again, good info Abg. mat79 thumbup.gif Always a pleasure to have a fruitful discussion + knowledge sharing with you biggrin.gif
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what does it means by 10 point checking? wat 10 points is it? CVT sound is like electric sound right? around 80km/h if close radio can hear tat sound.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 8 2012, 10:40 PM)
what does it means by 10 point checking? wat 10 points is it? CVT sound is like electric sound right? around 80km/h if close radio can hear tat sound.
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I'm not sure what the 10 points exactly are but they usually include tires, break fluid levels, lubricant levels, breaks, lights & so on. Key items that ensure safety & reliability...
As for the "electric sound", I presume you're referring to the CVT whine. Another place this whine can come from is the A/C system. You can confirm this by driving without A/C. In my car, I'm pretty sure it's the A/C... tongue.gif


Added on November 8, 2012, 10:45 pmCan someone PLEASE let me into the PREVOC FB? sad.gif I'm stuck outside cry.gif

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post Nov 8 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 8 2012, 10:18 PM)
Yes bro. Any of them shall provide u the service FOC
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I never knew they do such service. I wonder if EON provides that too.

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post Nov 8 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 8 2012, 10:40 PM)
what does it means by 10 point checking? wat 10 points is it? CVT sound is like electric sound right? around 80km/h if close radio can hear tat sound.
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It includes exhaust pipe hanger rust issue, power window issue, boot lid spring design issue, windscreen and cowl panel wind noise, c-pillar noise, etc, etc.
To make up of 10 free check points.

Not the usual so called lubricating checking etc.


Added on November 8, 2012, 10:59 pm
QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 8 2012, 10:47 PM)
I never knew they do such service. I wonder if EON provides that too.
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That was based on your assumption, all of the Proton Edar are informed to perform all the 10-point checking on all preve that come in for the service.
All Proton Edar/EON service dealers will provide the service FOC.

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post Nov 8 2012, 11:05 PM

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I thought EON is consolidated into Proton Edar also now? hmm.gif
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just drove my new preve executive cvt around cheras just now..i would say it is a great car, control is great, comfy, need to get use to the CVT though.....

engine a bit noisy when rev the engine during stop-start on a slope....

overall driving experience is great...did not notice I reach 100km/h at some point..

The one and only concern that I have now is the reliability sweat.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 8 2012, 11:05 PM)
I thought EON is consolidated into Proton Edar also now? hmm.gif
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Its more about the management now, rather than the sales/after sales for this moment.
Perhaps things will be more clear as the body & paint meeting will be held tomorrow in KL.
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post Nov 9 2012, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Nov 8 2012, 10:40 PM)
For the 1.6 FLX SE, I totally believe you Abg. mat79... I drove the test drive car & it was really punchy. I can feel the engine wanting to unleash more power but the CVT box keeps it back my shuttling between gears... very annoying but got potential brows.gif

Also, I agree with the Preve 1.6L engine... these engines have good HP ratings are (in the proper hands) able to deliver good, usable power. What I don't like is the mode of emission control. I strongly believe the DBW is not the ONLY strategy to ensure good power delivery at sane emission levels. I'm also VERY sure they didn't have manuals in mind when setting up the engine's software - else they would have seen the throttle-lag issue in the very beginning. I heard that the latest ECU upgrades compensates this quite a bit, so let's see once my car goes in & comes out of Proton next week.

Again, good info Abg. mat79 thumbup.gif Always a pleasure to have a fruitful discussion + knowledge sharing with you biggrin.gif
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:-), u drove cvt flx se, if driving the manual one, its even better, but still the cat is in the bag. Hopefully drb will release the manual version of flx se coz its really engaging, n quieter too coz no whining from cvt. As i said on dbw, its more apparent since preve is way heavier than flx se, for flx 1.3 manual,its more or less the same. Still,the weight did cover it up.

10 points checking on product improvement.


Added on November 9, 2012, 7:12 amhowever, there is still a room for improvement on dbw. Hopefully the keep continue improving it :-).

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post Nov 9 2012, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Nov 8 2012, 05:36 PM)
Today while i was driving, heard whistling noise from front windscreen. To those who have the same issue, the noise coming from top or bottom of the windscreen?

While driving through the East-West highway today, Polis buat operasi.
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Have u tried off the air circulation.
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QUOTE(my1508 @ Nov 9 2012, 08:16 AM)
Have u tried off the air circulation.
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Do not think it is the a/c, the whistling noise is similar to the whistling noise at the c pillar of passenger side.
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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 9 2012, 08:41 AM)
Good Morning Fellow Preveians! thumbup.gif

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So? Any plans to "speed up" the 4 pages? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Nov 9 2012, 08:40 AM)
Do not think it is the a/c, the whistling noise is similar to the whistling noise at the c pillar of passenger side.
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yala...last time I told SC that I hv this problem when reach 100kmh and above during my 1st 1k service...he say proton actually knew about this but hvnt got solution yet...and say they will do once proton gv them instruction to do so..then he point the location to me telling me it is actually somewhere from in front of the front passenger seat...

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